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A controversial Black Lives Matter leader who co-founded a chapter in New York City and threatened “riots” and “bloodshed” in response to Mayor-elect Eric Adams’ pro-law enforcement stances stormed out of an interview Saturday with Fox News host Dan Bongino.
BLM of Greater New York leader Hawk Newsome generated headlines last week following a tense meeting with Adams in the Bronx, after which he said, “If he thinks that they’re going to go back to the old ways of policing, then we are going to take to the streets again.
Newsome added: “There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people. So there is no way that he is going to let some Gestapo come in here and harm our people. We pray for peace but … prepare for the worst.”
The BLM leader was responding to Adams’ pledge to reinstate an anti-crime unit disbanded by outgoing Mayor Bill de Blasio in response to calls from individuals and groups like BLM to ‘defund police’ in the wake of George Floyd’s murder in Minneapolis.
After playing clips of Newsome making those remarks, Bongino, a former Secret Service agent who began his law enforcement career as an officer with the NYPD, invited him in to explain them, beginning with some straightforward questions.
“Do you condemn riots and burning down buildings after a police use-of-force incident you don’t like?” asked Bongino.
“No,” the BLM leader responded. “What I’ll say is, I understand when a police officer unjustifiably kills someone, why people lash out. I understand that completely. I’m not going to condemn nor condone them.”
“Isn’t that cowardly?” Bongino asked. “’I’m not going to condemn it, but I’m not going to condone it — so I don’t want to take a stand’?
“You seem to talk a lot of junk and then when I put you on the spot you won’t answer a damn question. Do you condone violence or do you condemn violence? You’re all over the place. Just condemn violence and burning of buildings down. How hard is it?” Bongino pressed.
After complaining that the host was not allowing him to speak, Newsome then went on to try to make a point by comparing protests by BLM and other left-wing groups to the U.S. government’s response following the 9/11 attacks.
“OK, so when Usama bin Laden attacked the World Trade Center, did you say America should deal with it peacefully?” Newsome asked.
“You’re not answering the question, man,” Bongino fired back in response as the two engaged in some crosstalk. “That has nothing to do with people burning down businesses in New York City. You’re not gonna answer the question, Hawk … ”
“OK, I’ll give you this. I don’t condone it, I don’t promote it, but I will not condemn it,” Newsome shot back.
“Man, that’s just cowardly. That’s just cowardly,” Bongino said.
“You’re trying to bait me,” said Newsome. “God bless you, man. I’m out of here.”
And with that, the BLM activist is seen flipping his earpiece out as he begins to get up from his seat and walk away.
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Jon is a staff writer for BizPac Review with 30 years' worth of reporting experience, as well as an author and U.S. Army veteran. He has a BA in political science from Ashford University and an MA in national security studies/intelligence analysis from American Military University.
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