Oath Keeper, retired Navy vet, 70, charged with ‘seditious conspiracy’ for Jan 6 warns, ‘this is good vs evil’

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(Video Credit: Fox News | Tucker Carlson)

Fox News host Tucker Carlson interviewed alleged Oath Keepers leader Thomas Caldwell on Thursday night, addressing the Department of Justice charging him with seditious conspiracy in connection with the Capitol Hill riot on Jan. 6 just hours before appearing on his show.

“Tucker, I did not go into the Capitol and they know it,” Caldwell, 67, asserted. “I’m absolutely outraged. They don’t have any proof, and I’m innocent and we can prove my innocence.”

“You know, this whole thing has just crushed my wife and I – emotionally and financially,” he commented. “We have all the faith in the world in God. We believe that this is good versus evil. And we are Christians.”

He also contended that while he was kept in prison by the DOJ, he was told by another prisoner that because he is white, he had “no chance against [the Justice Department] when they get ready to take you down.”

When asked by Carlson whether he had “Howitzers,” Caldwell replied, “No, sir, I don’t. And I don’t know anybody who does. I have never seen anything in the limited discovery that they have given us to show they have seized any kinds of weapons. I can tell you, I never saw any weapons, nor did I talk to anyone who talked about bringing in heavy weapons and overthrowing the government, which is what sedition is all about. It’s just plain nuts.”

If convicted, Caldwell could get up to 20 years in prison. He was charged alongside Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes.

The veteran is denying all charges against him and says that the DOJ is prosecuting him with conspiracy charges because they have no evidence against him. His indictment follows a previous charge of felony conspiracy after he allegedly told those at the Capitol to “hang the traitors.”

Caldwell is reportedly one of 11 alleged Oath Keepers who are being charged by the Department of Justice in connection to the Jan. 6 riot. A statement released by the DOJ charged that “co-conspirators coordinated and planned to travel to Washington, D.C., on or around Jan. 6, 2021, the date of the certification of the electoral college vote.”

“While certain Oath Keepers members and affiliates breached the Capitol grounds and building, others remained stationed just outside of the city in quick reaction force (QRF) teams. According to the indictment, the QRF teams were prepared to rapidly transport firearms and other weapons into Washington, D.C., in support of operations aimed at using force to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power. The indictment alleges that the teams were coordinated, in part, by Caldwell,” the statement further asserted.

Carlson has interviewed Caldwell several times and opened up acknowledging that he is a military veteran and is on disability.

Prosecutors are claiming that Caldwell sent a text message to someone believed to be affiliated with the group Three Percenters on Jan. 3 about the possibility of sending weapons across the river, according to ABC 7 News.

“How many people either in the militia or not (who are still supportive of our efforts to save the Republic) have a boat on a trailer that could handle a Potomac crossing?” Caldwell allegedly wrote, according to prosecutors. “If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms.”

Authorities also allege that during a search of Caldwell’s home, they found a “Death List” that included the name of an elected official from another state but they did not disclose who that was. Investigators also say they found invoices for more than $750 worth of live ammunition which is not unusual in the least. Prosecutors are further claiming to have found what appeared to be a gun designed to look like a cellphone.

The Justice Department is claiming that text messages prove Caldwell is guilty, according to Newsweek. He is adamantly denying all of it.

“Then we heard [former Vice President] Pence f****d us. Wr [sic] had over a million oeople [sic] here … so I grabbed up my American flag and said let’s take the damn capitol,” one of the alleged statements from Caldwell reads. “So people started surging forward and climbing the scaffolding outside so I said lets [sic] storm the place and hang the traitors.”

“The people in front of me broke through the doors and started duking it out with the pigs who broke and ran,” Caldwell allegedly continued. “Then we started stealing the cops riot shields a d [sic] throwing fire extinguishers through windows. It was a great time.”

Caldwell’s lawyer is urging the judge to release him, stating that he denies being a member of the Oath Keepers or ever going into the Capitol building.

Defense Attorney Thomas Plofchan said Caldwell has held a top-secret security clearance since 1979, which required multiple special background investigations. Caldwell also reportedly ran a consulting firm that did classified work for the U.S. government, according to his attorney. He also claims to have worked for the FBI but the agency is staying mum on that issue as well.


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