Media runs with new ‘gotcha’ audio of Trump discussing Pence and Jan 6 protesters

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In an interview with ABC News chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl, former President Trump asserted that he was never concerned over former Vice President Mike Pence’s safety on Jan. 6 because he was “well-protected,” but he did note the anger of protesters that day.

Axios broke the story on Friday and the media started spinning it as if Trump was condoning the angry chants that day calling for Pence to be hanged. But the audio does not appear to convey that sentiment. Trump stated that he understood the anger of the protesters which is a far cry from condoning it.

Just a few examples can be seen in the screenshots below:


The brief excerpt is from a 90-minute interview between Karl and Trump on March 18 at Mar-a-Lago. It will become part of Karl’s upcoming book, “Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show.”

Karl asks Trump during the clip, “Were you worried about him during that siege? Were you worried about his safety?”

“No, I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape. No. Because I had heard he was in very good shape. But, but, no, I think…” Trump replied.

Karl interjects and calls the chants from protesters “terrible.” He notes that “hang Mice Pence” could be heard from the rioters that day.

“Because you heard those chants — that was terrible. I mean—” Karl remarks.

Trump responded indicating that he understand the rage that day, “He could have — well, the people were very angry.”

“They were saying ‘hang Mike Pence,’” Karl reiterated.

“Because it’s common sense, Jon. It’s common sense that you’re supposed to protect. How can you — if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? — how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that?” Trump asked Karl obviously missing his last remark.

“And I’m telling you: 50/50, it’s right down the middle for the top constitutional scholars when I speak to them. Anybody I spoke to — almost all of them at least pretty much agree, and some very much agree with me — because he’s passing on a vote that he knows is fraudulent. How can you pass a vote that you know is fraudulent?” the former President continued.

“Now, when I spoke to him, I really talked about all of the fraudulent things that happened during the election. I didn’t talk about the main point, which is the legislatures did not approve — five states. The legislatures did not approve all of those changes that made the difference between a very easy win for me in the states, or a loss that was very close, because the losses were all very close.” Trump added.

Karl is prepping to leak more snippets of the interview to hype his book and says they will be reported during ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.

The media is running with the clip claiming that Trump is still defending the Jan. 6 riot and spinning it for all they are worth.

Pence has never attacked Trump on the issue and although he says they may never agree about what happened that day, he’s still very proud of what they did together while in office.

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“You know, President Trump and I have spoken many times since we left office. And I don’t know if we’ll ever see eye to eye on that day. But I will always be proud of what we accomplished for the American people over the last four years,” Pence proclaimed during a speech in Hillsborough County, NH, in June to loud applause.

“And I will not allow Democrats or their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of Americans, or allow Democrats or their allies in the media to distract our attention from a new administration intent on dividing our country to advance their radical agenda,” he added. “My fellow, Republicans, for our country, for our future, for our children and our grandchildren, we must move forward, united.”


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