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David Webb and Jessica Tarlov got into a testy exchange during Fox News’ “Outnumbered” on Friday over the rising tide of violence against police and the policies believe to be responsible for them, leading hosts Melissa Francis to instruct Harris Faulkner to break them up.
The exchange began with Tarlov explaining that, as a life-long New Yorker, it bothered her to see NYPD officers attacked and brutalized like they were earlier this week on the Brooklyn Bridge, in which three officers including Chief Terence Monahan were struck with a large stick, allegedly by Quran Campbell, 25, of the Bronx.
Three officers violently attacked by protesters crossing the Brooklyn Bridge. The officers sustained serious injuries.
This is not peaceful protest, this will not be tolerated. pic.twitter.com/cYuDX8G7ku
— NYPD NEWS (@NYPDnews) July 15, 2020
“I don’t understand it,” she said of the rising tide of violence against officers. “I think people just lashing out is obviously not the answer to anything here if we’re getting justice for George Floyd or dealing with reforms that we need to make to the police department — which everyone agrees, whether you’re just saying it’s a few bad apples or we need real systemic changes there.”
(Source: Fox News)
She then took issue with earlier comments Webb had made during a previous tense exchange, in which the SiriusXM host said, “As a black and brown person, I think I’m qualified to speak on this, Jessica,” while criticizing the “leftist, neo-Marxist, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, anti-American movement that has taken over” the Floyd protests.
“What David Webb just said, again, was listing off every left term you could: leftist, socialist, Marxist, BLM, whatever, and then alleging that Democratic leadership was in some way supportive of violence against police officers is incredibly irresponsible,” Tarlov stated
She then demanded: “Show me the Democratic leader who said, ‘Go out there and put your hands on a police officer.’”
Webb explained that Democratic leaders are sending the signal that it’s open season on law enforcement via their statements and ‘hands-off demonstrators’ policies.
“I look at the policies… I look at the actions or the lack of it, Jessica. I look at the Ted Wheelers of the world, the Mayor Bowsers, Bill de Blasio. I look at Democrat leaders who say they teach their children to be afraid of the police. I look at people like that who provide this tacit support, and to pretend it doesn’t exist is to live in a fantasy world,” he began.
“I am on the streets, you are not. I am in these riots, you are not. I am there covering it, and I have been for years, so don’t lecture me about what I have seen in the Democrat Party leadership,” he continued, prompting Francis to feel the need to intervene, challenging Webb’s explanation.
“Okay, stop. Stop. Hang on guys. Okay? Hang on guys,” she said, cutting Webb off. “We’ve heard [New York City Mayor] Bill de Blasio say a lot of things…I don’t think he’s ever said ‘Put your hands on police.'”
A visibly frustrated Faulkner began by noting that whatever policies are eventually settled upon nationally and locally, it is vital that police be allowed to regain control over city streets.
“Look, everybody can see the same thing right now, you guys. We are all looking at the same thing again. Let’s just call it for what it is. It’s a mess, and it’s a dangerous mess now, and you can pick sides on whoever you want to back or whatever, but at the very heart of this is we are going to need order in our streets. How do we get there together?” Faulkner said.
“And, look, if you are listening, if you are paying attention, some of the people who you might think politically would go one way are now saying, ‘Wait, we’re going to need those anti-crime cops, those plainclothes cops back again to stop some of the crime,” she continued. “Not just to protect the police — and I think it was you, Rachel, who said it — but the citizens, too. Everybody becomes a victim potentially in this.
“We can do this but we have to start listening to everybody and stop putting shirts on people. ‘You’re the Republican, you’re the Democrat.’ You know what we are? We’re Americans,” she concluded.
Early last month amid ongoing violent protests in New York City that originally stemmed from the Floyd incident, a New York City police union chief warned officers are “alone” as attacks against officers rose dramatically.
“NYPD is losing the city of New York and we have no leadership in the city of New York right now, from City Hall to the brass of the NYPD,” New York Sergeants Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins told Fox News, imploring President Donald Trump to send federal assistance.
NYPD Cop attacked in the Bronx. I guess the critics will now say he overreacted. NYPD Cops defend yourselves, you are alone! pic.twitter.com/424w5bZbC6
— SBA (@SBANYPD) June 2, 2020
— NYC PBA (@NYCPBA) June 1, 2020
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