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‘That’s just bull’: Bannon and Cooper clash over who’s done dirty work with Ukraine

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When confronted late Thursday about former Vice President Joe Biden’s alleged corruption, all CNN “journalist” Anderson Cooper had to say was “that’s just bull!” His guest, former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, strongly disagreed.

Speaking with the CNN host in defense of President Donald Trump’s requests that China and Ukraine investigate the corruption of Biden and his son, Bannon argued that the requests weren’t rooted in hurting a political opponent but rather in rooting out genuine corruption.

“See, you have this premise that it’s about a political opponent. What they’re investigating is the corruption,” he tried to say, only to be cut off.

“Oh, come on, give me a break. You know very well that’s just bull!” Cooper exclaimed.

Watch the full discussion below:

Like other far-left media personalities, the host believes that the otherwise credible allegations of corruption surrounding Biden are mere conspiracy theories.

“It’s not,” Bannon retorted before turning his attention specifically to the alleged corruption that occurred in China. “Joe Biden should be more investigated, I think, about China and what he did the time in China with his son, how he got … islands in the South China Sea.”

This so-called “conspiracy theory” was broached over the summer by award-winning ABC News journalist Tom Llamas.

“This video shows Chinese diplomats greeting Vice President Biden as he arrived in Beijing in December of 2013,” he said in a video broadcast published in June.

“Right by his side, his son Hunter. Less than two weeks later, Hunter’s firm had new business creating an investment firm in China, involving the government-controlled Bank of China, with reports they hoped to raise $1.5 billion.”

His full report may be seen below:


(Source: ABC News)

Llamas’s report also covered the corruption allegations involving Ukraine.

“At issue, was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad’s work as vice president, and did Joe Biden allow it?” he said. “We’re talking about millions of dollars in at least two countries. It’s a question we tried to ask repeatedly. But kept getting blocked. Questions about foreign deals his son Hunter Biden pursued in countries where Joe Biden was working as America’s top diplomat.”

“In 2014, Ukrainians sick of corruption revolted. Vice President Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government. But then something strange happened. Just three weeks later, a Ukrainian natural gas company accused of corruption appoints Hunter Biden … to their board of directors, paying his firm more than a million dollars a year. Hunter, a lawyer, who had just been discharged from the Navy Reserves for testing positive for cocaine. He had served on other boards but had no known experience in Ukraine or natural gas.”

The Ukraine allegation is the more important one in regard to the Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry into the president, as it was broached in a phone call made over the summer by Trump to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Because the president broached the topic and asked his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate Biden, congressional Democrats are confident they have the evidence needed to impeach him. Bannon disagrees with this assessment as well.

“This is a policy difference,” he said to Cooper. “I think when you look at what President Trump [did and said], I haven’t seen anything that he had done that is wrong or inappropriate.”

In response, the host accused him of “circling the wagons.”

“I think you believe you got to circle the wagons, just like with the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape. You’re either with us or against us,” he maintained.

“I am arguing the fact that I don’t think he has done anything wrong here,” Bannon replied, adding that he feels the Democrats’ impeachment drive is going to wind up hurting the country by distracting it from more relevant matters.

“Now we’re going to spend the next 12 weeks, instead of focusing on Hong Kong, instead of focusing on … this is going to engulf your show,” he explained. “This whole network is going to be overwhelmed in a firestorm covering this between now and the end of when they impeachment him.”

“And they’re going to impeach him. They’re going to bring two charges. It’s going to consume much of the political world. To hurting the United States, which could be doing other things right now.”

Cooper replied by arguing that what really hurts the country is Trump “using taxpayer money as a weapon against an ally who’s fighting our enemy.”

The statement was based on the disputed Democrat talking point that the president had purposefully withheld military aid to Ukraine during the summer to force Zelensky to launch an investigation into Biden.

The discussion continued with Bannon again highlighting the credible evidence against Biden — evidence that Cooper again chose to dismiss and ignore.

Yet despite being willing to consider the evidence, the host was eager to tout the unproven and arguably conspiratorial Democrat talking point that the president has committed quid pro quo.

“There is no evidence at all that there is a quid pro quo here,” Bannon tried to explain to him as the discussion concluded.

Vivek Saxena

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