Sen. Graham on Trey Gowdy joining Trump’s legal team: ‘It won’t matter if president won’t listen to him’

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, usually a staunch ally of the president, doesn’t appear to be as impressed with the White House’s decision to hire former Rep. Trey Gowdy to serve on President Donald Trump’s legal team as “The View” co-host Meghan McCain.

Speaking on the radio Friday morning, a day after McCain warned her Democrat co-hosts that Gowdy’s hiring is a big win for the president, Graham seemed to express the opposite sentiment.

“He brings a lot. He understands the Congress. He’s a smart lawyer. But it won’t matter if the president won’t listen to him,” he said while speaking on FNC host Brian Kilmeade’s Fox News Radio program.

Ouch.

Listen to some of the interview below:


(Source: Fox News)

It was a reference to the president’s demonstrated habit of ignoring not only legal advice but the advice of his aides as well. While the president certainly listens to the advice of others, he often chooses to pursue his own path regardless of the criticism.

The interview didn’t begin with Graham being so critical. In fact, he spent the majority of the interview defending the president’s concerns about 2020 contender former Vice President Joe Biden’s alleged corruption in Ukraine and pushing back on all the games being perpetrated by impeachment-chasing congressional Democrats.

“Rudy [Giuliani] says that during his time in the Ukraine, he found a lot of evidence of corruption [regarding Joe Biden]. I’d like to hear about it. I’ve heard it on television. It sounds pretty damning, quite frankly,” the senator said.

But it’s not showing up on television, for the most part, because Democrats and their media allies have dismissed the evidence — some of which has been put forth by members of Ukraine’s own parliament — as “conspiratorial” nonsense.

“People want me to look at both sides — I will — but I have to have witnesses,” Graham continued, taking aim at Democrats’ attempts to block their Republican counterparts from participating in their ongoing impeachment inquiry against the president.

“You have Jim Jordan saying that the [former U.S. envoy for Ukraine Kurt] Volker testimony, that the Democrats are not releasing the entire transcript of what he said, that if you look at everything he said, he exonerated President Trump regarding quid pro quo.”

There’s a whole pile of evidence disproving the quid pro quo conspiracy theory, but again, the evidence is being purposefully ignored by the institutional left.

“If the Democrats won’t release the whole transcript, I’ll call Volker to the Senate so we can hear both sides of the story. I just want people to understand there are two sides to this story in Ukraine,” Graham added.

He then pivoted his attention to Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Democrats and their media allies have claimed that during the call, Trump dangled a quid pro quo offer in his Ukrainian counterpart’s face to force him to investigate Biden’s alleged corruption. This is wrong, as the senator noted to Kilmeade.

“The phone call by the Ukraine to me was a good phone call, not a bad phone call,” he said. “We give Ukraine $4 to $5 million a year, so it’s OK to find out about corruption. So the phone call is not remotely an impeachable offense.”

Plus, he added, “This is not a legitimate impeachment inquiry.”

“In an impeachment process, the other side can subpoena witnesses. Under this process, they can’t. Under a normal impeachment process authorized by the House as a whole, both sides can call witnesses. Under this process, you can’t.”

Much like the media’s coverage of the impeachment inquiry, the inquiry itself is a completely one-sided, partisan affair — one predicated on veritable gossip.

“You can’t get a parking ticket in America based on an anonymous allegation,” Graham noted, taking aim at the partisan whistleblowers responsible for engendering this mess.

“So, what’s wrong with the House proceeding is it shuts out the Republicans, it doesn’t allow the president to confront his accuser. It’s not legitimate. They need to vote.”

The problem is that the current impeachment inquiry is informal, meaning the standard rules of impeachment don’t apply. Thus not only can the Republicans not subpoena and question witnesses, but neither can the president and his legal team, including Gowdy.

This has not sat well with either the president or his supporters.

In tweets posted last week, outspoken conservative Hollywood actress Kirstie Alley argued that everyone “has the right” to face his or her accuser, especially when the accuser’s allegations are themselves based on hearsay.

“[W]hat if an anonymous person accused you of rape because some other anonymous person said he heard you raped someone… How would you fight that in courts?” she asked.

Look (*Language warning);

But Democrats apparently disagree, and sadly for the president, it’s not clear whether even someone as skilled as Gowdy will be able to overcome this level of unprecedented Democrat obstruction.

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Vivek Saxena

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