Fox News host Pete Hegseth unexpectantly came to the defense of U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who has been calling for the break up of big technology companies like Amazon, Google and Facebook.
Warren has been denouncing the tech giants’ monopoly on the campaign trail, and “Fox & Friends” played a clip of the 2020 presidential candidate declaring, “I want a government that isn’t here to work for giant tech companies. I want a government that’s here to work for the people.”
Kurt Knutsson, aka the Cyber Guy, was a guest and he called for measured steps in addressing the issue, likening Warren’s plan as “taking a wrecking ball to American business in one whack.”
“How about we start in steps and how about we look at the obvious thing which is rather than kill them off, how about making sure a way is paved for the little guy to get in,” Knutsson said.
“I’m going to defend Elizabeth Warren,” Hegseth responded, as co-hosts Ed Henry and Emily Compagno laughed.
“I’m serious,” he said. “I read her op-ed, I actually agree with her argument. I don’t think you’re ending the tech companies, you’re breaking them up. They’ve become anti-competitive, crowding out the little guy.”
“She is saying at some point in America the government does have a role to make sure that small business has an opportunity to compete,” Hegseth continued. “It’s actually a very compelling argument.”
Knutsson responded to say that Warren is calling what these companies are illegal, noting that this is not true.
“The fact is they didn’t break any laws to achieve what they have achieved, as dominance in the marketplace,” he said. “You don’t punish America company for becoming American and becoming successful.”
When asked if there is a middle ground for common sense regulations, Knutsson said to look to Europe for a “road map of what’s working and what’s not working in their legislative ways to regulate the privacy aspect of tech companies.”
“I’m not looking to Europe for anything,” Hegseth insisted. “They may be good on some things but we have a history in this country of recognizing that companies that are too big, that squeeze-out competition are ultimately not good for the consumer.”
Ma Bell comes to mind.
“You get less choice. You get less quality over time,” he added, saying “competition is good.”
“If Amazon is going to have the platform and sell it to me and undercut competitors, government has a role at some point to step in,” Hegseth reasoned.
He then remarked on what amounts to the elephant on the room, at least when it comes to Facebook and other social media platforms.
“I don’t love the fact that they are not taking on censorship of free speech,” Hegseth said. “That’s not what Elizabeth Warren wants to do — trust busting has a history in this country.”
His Fox & Friends co-hosts ribbed him about a Warren-Hegseth presidential ticket, prompting him to say: “Sometimes they have good ideas and you have to acknowledge that.”
After a moment of reflection on what he just said, he amusingly offered, “I surprised myself.”
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