Stop what you’re doing and read Lucas & Spielberg discuss Indiana Jones sleeping with 11-year-old

The Harvey Weinstein scandal ripped off the veil that covered Hollywood’s sins.

The daily flow of fresh celebrity horror stories now leaves no doubt that the entertainment industry’s critics have long been right: Hollywood is populated and run by perverts, degenerates, and sociopaths.

Even seemingly innocent film classics are often infected with subtle messages intended to normalize immorality. That includes everybody’s favorite adventurer-archaeologist: Indiana Jones.

The Raiders of the Lost Ark story conference transcript is available online, providing fans around the world with unique insight into the conversations between story creator George Lucas, director Steven Spielberg, and screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan as they planned what would ultimately became the breakthrough first installment in the Indiana Jones franchise.

But fans are now finding themselves disturbed by one of George Lucas’ unsettling originally visions for the film involving the relationship between the titular protagonist and his love interest, Marion Ravenwood.

In the movie, Indy and Marion, who are implied to have been lovers, meet up after being estranged for ten years.

The dialogue in the context as it appears on film already insinuates that Indy took advantage of Marion when she was underage.

Marion: I’ve learned to hate you in the last ten years!

Indiana: I never meant to hurt you.

Marion: I was a child. I was in love. It was wrong and you knew it!

Indiana: You knew what you were doing.

Marion: Now I do. This is my place. Get out!

There’s a visible age difference between the characters. Harrison Ford, who played Indiana Jones, was 39 when the movie came out. Karen Allen, who played Marion, was 30.

But the dialogue becomes more disconcerting when you read George Lucas’s own words arguing in favor making Marion 11-years-old when she first began her affair with Indy–a concept he pressed for with unusual insistence.

Here’s the conversation between Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan, per the transcript.

George Lucas: I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.

Lawrence Kasdan: And he was forty-two.

George Lucas: He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange relationship.

Steven Spielberg: She had better be older than twenty-two.

George Lucas: He’s thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she was only twelve.

George Lucas: It would be amusing to make her slightly young at the time.

Steven Spielberg: And promiscuous. She came onto him.

George Lucas: Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was madly in love with him and he…

Steven Spielberg: She has pictures of him.

George Lucas: There would be a picture on the mantle of her, her father, and him. She was madly in love with him at the time and he left her because obviously it wouldn’t work out. Now she’s twenty-five and she’s been living in Nepal since she was eighteen. It’s not only that they like each other, it’s a very bizarre thing, it puts a whole new perspective on this whole thing. It gives you lots of stuff to play off of between them. Maybe she still likes him. It’s something he’d rather forget about and not have come up again. This gives her a lot of ammunition to fight with.

It almost seems like Spielberg was (understandably) taken aback by Lucas’ idea that Indy have an “affair with [Marion] when she was eleven.” His statement that “[s]he had better be older than twenty-two” reads like the director attempting to point out the inappropriateness of what Lucas was suggesting.

However, Spielberg’s comment about an underage girl being “promiscuous” and “[coming] onto [25-year-old Indy]” is still discomforting, though slightly less so than George Lucas dismissing the notion of making Marion older than 15 at the beginning of their affair because then “it’s not interesting anymore.”

Lucas then went on to talk about making the insinuation of pedophilia subtle, which is much how it was handled in the final draft that made it onscreen.

George Lucas: This is a resource that you can either mine or not. It’s not as blatant as we’re talking about. You don’t think about it that much. You don’t immediately realize how old she was at the time. It would be subtle. She could talk about it. “I was jail bait the last time we were together.” She can flaunt it at him, but at the same time she never says, “I was fifteen years old.” Even if we don’t mention it, when we go to cast the part we’re going to end up with a woman who’s about twenty-three and a hero who’s about thirty-five.

Looking back at George Lucas’ filmography, sexual tension between adults and children is a recurring theme.

One of the many subplots in Lucas’ 1973 film American Graffiti revolves around a tough-talking high school senior named John giving a ride to a 12-year-old girl named Carol.

When they first meet, John pulls Carol’s head close to his lap to hide her from schoomates, prompting her to joke about “copping a feel.”

Throughout the course of the film, Carol develops an attraction for John and attempts to initiate physical intimacy on a few occasions. John rejects her advances.

And, of course, there are George Lucas’ Star Wars prequels, in which the love affair between Padme Amidala and future-Darth Vader Anakin Skywalker began with actor Jake Lloyd’s cringe-worthy “are you an angel?” line, when his character was nine-years old.

To be fair, the Padme character was only 14 in the film.

But the stories, particularly the John-Carol subplot from American Graffiti, fit right in with Lucas and Spielberg’s comments about having a girl engage in an affair when “she was only twelve” and be “promiscuous. She came onto him.”

What all this points to is George Lucas’ fascination with portraying children as sexual beings. With having them be the instigators of sexual intimacy.

Sorry to ruin your childhood. But I wouldn’t have to if Hollywood bigwigs like George Lucas didn’t use the silver screen to ram their twisted fantasies down people’s throats.


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