Liberals and mainstream media types keep insisting that President Trump’s temporary travel ban to several unstable, terrorist-hotbed nations who happen to be majority-Muslim is a so-called “Muslim ban.” There’s absolutely no logic to it, if course, but like any “big lie,” if they keep repeating it enough people will, and do, eventually believe it.
Enter Dr. Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Trump, who is an experienced and competent debater. Put him and unassailable logic up against the likes of CNN’s Chris Cuomo, and the good guys win every time.
Except this time, well this time was especially epic, as Gorka put on a debating clinic from the time he called CNN “one of the greatest purveyors of fake news” to when he flayed Cuomo with the truth until he practically begged for mercy.
Put it this way, it’s a good thing he’s on our side!
To be fair, it was Cuomo who brought it all up:
“It has always been about who it targets, how it targets them, and whether or not that is what will keep us safe and you guys played games about it and said ‘it’s not a ban’, I could play you Sean Spicer right now, but you know it’s true. And then the President decides to be honest about it this morning – that is spin. You are the purveyor of spin because that was your message, that it wasn’t a ban, and it was untrue – that’s why I’m asking you.”
To which Gorka responded with the origin of the countries selected:
“So, I guess President Obama was also a purveyor of spin with that calculation because the executive order is based upon the Obama White House analysis of the seven nations of greatest concern for immigration into America. Is he a purveyor of spin, Chris?”
After some back and forth during which Cuomo called it an “interesting question” that Gorka was using as a diversion (as if it weren’t directly related), Cuomo said:
“…that move, with the executive order from the Obama administration, was about travel to those countries. It was about who’s coming in and out and why. Your order is about Muslims, about targeting Muslims and keeping them out and allowing those who are not Muslim are carve out, to come in.”
Then came the telling back-and-forth:
Gorka: “Let’s do a little bit of a “101”, let’s do a little “Trivial Pursuit” . . . What is the most populous Muslim nation in the world, Chris?”
Cuomo: “You tell me, these are your answers.”
Gorka: “No, no, you tell me, what is the biggest Muslim nation in the world?”
Cuomo: “No, you tell me, I wanna give you the opportunity to lay it out, go ahead, assume I know nothing . . .”
Gorka: “It’s Indonesia – I will assume you know nothing. What’s the largest Arab nation in the world?”
Cuomo: “You tell me.”
Gorka: “Egypt, okay? So if this had anything, and I mean anything, to do with race or religion, why would those two nations, the most populous Muslim nation, and the most populous Arab nation, not be included on the executive order? Explain that logic to me, because this is where your spin fails. This is where the fake news propaganda collapses, because if we had some dark, dread ulterior motive, then those are the two first nations you would put on the list, not the seven nations that the Obama White House identified as the greatest concern. So, please answer that question.”
Cuomo: “I will, I will – uh, first, what the Obama administration did was target travel from places that were known as hubs for terror, uh, and that’s different from what you’re doing cause you’re targeting nationality. You could add Saudi Arabia to your list, 15 of the hijackers came from there, they’re not on your list, there’s speculation as to why, but instead of looking at who you didn’t involve, you must look for legal and policy purposes at who you did involve and those countries are all Muslim majority, you did a carve out for non-Muslims and that’s why it got struck down, originally, allegedly recognized as being overreaching by people like you, which is why you drafted a second one, which the President said he authorized and approved of and is now before the courts for scrutiny, so the intention is clear, that you wanted to target Muslims from those places. I see that your’e a little slow to want to own that.”
Gorka: “No, I’m still waiting for you to answer why we didn’t include Indonesia and Egypt. You still haven’t answered the question. If it was about what you say it was about, then those would be the logical nations to include, but we didn’t, so how do you explain that, Chris?”
Cuomo responded by saying that Trump wanted to “go with the original model to make it easier to pass … therefore masking your true intention to not make it about travel, but about Muslims.”
When Gorka asked for “one piece of evidence,” Cuomo’s only comeback was the “language from the president.”
Watch the video below:
NOTE: The original headline of this article mistakenly named Andrew Cuomo as the CNN host in the video. We apologize for the oversight.
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