A woman who attended former President Donald Trump’s rally in Iowa on Saturday told an interviewer she believes a second “civil war” is coming because, in her view, a growing number of Americans are fed up with the direction of the country and the politicians leading it.
The interviewer, MSNBC reporter Gary Grumbach, filed a report from the rally near Des Moines ahead of Trump’s speech, in which he noted recent polling showing that the former president’s approval rating in the state is actually higher than it was during his term, and is higher than Gov. Kim Richards and long-serving GOP Sen. Charles Grassley.
Grumbach then went on to note another part of a Des Moines Register survey which found that 70 percent believes the country is on the wrong track.
“Another question in the poll was about whether people think the country is on the right track or going off on the wrong track,” he said. “Seventy percent of the country said they believe it’s going on the wrong track, and that does sort of line up of what we’re seeing in terms of Biden approval ratings from Quinnipiac and others.”
At that, Grumbach pivoted to note that Trump remains the focus of several investigations into him and his businesses before returning to the rally, in which he reported that several thousand people had already arrived hours before the former president was supposed to speak later in the evening, adding that he found many attendees were simply “angry” about the political state of being in the country.
“But I talked to folks out here who are simply just angry. They’re upset with the way the country is going right now, and frankly, they’re upset with the way the Republican Party is handling everything,” Grumbach noted, before playing a clip of an interview with a woman who made an ominous prediction.
“I think the Republicans are about as weak as they possibly could be in Congress. You have maybe six that are worth their salt,” said the woman, Lori Levi, listing Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Mike Lee of Utah, and Rand Paul of Kentucky, among “two or three others.”
“The rest of them are just the same as the Democrats,” she said. “They’ve been there too long. They’re establishment. They don’t care about the American people because they’re in their elite little tower.”
Levi then added: “So we’re just sick of it, you know, and we’re not gonna take it anymore. I see a civil war coming. I do. I see civil war coming.”
“A civil war coming. That’s what she said, and that’s the sentiment that we’re hearing from a number of people on the ground here today at Trump’s rally,” Grumbach said as he concluded his report and sent it back to MSNBC anchor Alex Witt.
Trump has yet to announce whether he’s going to run for a second term in 2024 but has dropped a number of hints regarding his intentions.
Others have made similar statements in recent weeks, citing various circumstances.
For instance, in an interview with CNBC at the SALT Global Thought Leadership Forum late last month, Ray Dalio, co-chief investment officer at Bridgewater Associates, the country’s largest hedge fund, said he also sees a civil conflict coming.
Dalio said that as the rich get more wealthy and middle-class and working-class Americans continue to struggle, conditions are becoming ripe for “some form of civil war.” He added that “moderation has gone to extremism, and it’s something we should be aware of. We certainly have a war developing between the factions, the states, and so on.”
“If we keep fighting with each other and have this together with the bad finances, and together with a rising power [China] challenging the existing power [U.S.], that’s not going to be putting forward our best,” he concluded.
Also, “recent polling from the University of Virginia shows a significant percentage of Democrats and Republicans have a negative view of democracy and fundamental American ideals like free speech,” says a subscriber note by Forward Observer, a private-sector intelligence service. “Researchers note the calls for secession are growing, but a significant indicator of strife is a decline in interstate commerce,” in which blue states are increasingly punishing red states over political issues such as abortion and COVID-19 policies.
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