Tucker has heated call with NSA after response to his claims of spying get more ‘Orwellian’

Fox News host Tucker Carlson unloaded on the White House and the National Security Agency with an update on his “Orwellian” experience of being spied on.

The host of “Tucker Carlson Tonight” gave viewers on Tuesday the latest update in his attempt to confront the U.S. government for allegedly accessing some of his personal communications, warning that with the Biden administration in charge, Americans are “going to see a whole lot more of this kind of thing.”

The accusation comes after a National Security Agency whistleblower contacted Carlson and informed him that the agency was reportedly monitoring his personal emails. The informant had information from Carlson’s emails that were only known to the host and the recipient. The details had to do with a story that Carlson is working on and the whistleblower contends that the NSA “is planning to leak them in an attempt to take this show off the air.”

The NSA issued a brief and scripted response to Carlson’s allegation at 8 p.m. on Tuesday, denying that they were spying on him. Carlson’s team had a number of contentious calls with the agency and was reportedly unable to reach NSA Director Gen. Paul Nakasone. The statement by the NSA was put out just moments before his show went live. Carlson called it “infuriatingly dishonest” and “an entire paragraph of lies.”

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“Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the Agency and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take his program off the air,” the NSA statement posited. “NSA has a foreign intelligence mission. We target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States. With limited exceptions (e.g. an emergency), NSA may not target a US citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting.”

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki also refused to directly answer if the NSA was spying on the conservative news host, using the very same talking points as the agency earlier in the day aboard Air Force One.

“The NSA has, I think you are well aware, everyone’s aware, everyone on this plane is aware, I should say, is an entity that focuses on foreign threats and individuals who are attempting to do us harm on foreign soil. So that is their purview. But beyond that I would point you to the intelligence community,” she noted when asked by a reporter about Carlson’s accusation.

“The Biden administration, for its part, ignored the story. They did not deny it. They can’t. They know it’s true. Today, the president’s flack was asked it on Air Force One,” Carlson stated. “Notice once again, no denial. She’s right that the NSA is chartered to spy on foreigners, not Americans. But it does spy on Americans, millions of them, sometimes for political reasons, and everyone knows it. In Washington, this is considered fine, but it’s not. It’s dangerous and wrong.”

“Some faceless hack in a powerful government agency decides he doesn’t like what you think, so he’s going to hurt you and there’s nothing you can do about it? That could happen to you. And when it does — trust us — NBC News will call you a delusional Q-Anon conspiracy theorist for complaining about it,” Carlson declared.

Regarding the NSA’s official statement, Carlson called Nakasone a “highly-political left-wing four-star general.” He currently leads the U.S. Cyber Command. Carlson’s team was rebuffed by the general’s receptionist. Trying again later in the day, they struck out again.

“Nakasone’s assistant seemed shocked that someone whose email the NSA is reading would dare to call the director himself,” the conservative host sneered.

Carlson angrily described his treatment by the NSA: “Shut up, serf. Obey. They claimed Nakasone wasn’t there.”

“Did the Biden administration read my emails? NSA officials refuse to say,” Carlson claimed. “In a very heated follow-up conversation 20 minutes ago, they refused even to explain why they won’t answer that simple question.” He contends that the message was loud and clear: “We can do whatever we want.”

“We can read your personal texts and emails. We can send veiled threats your way to brush you back if we don’t like your politics. We can do anything. And there’s literally nothing you can do about any of it. We’re in charge, and you’re not,” he commented. “Orwellian doesn’t begin to describe the experience.”

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request has now been filed by Carlson over the issue. He claims that the information the whistleblower obtained has “no other possible source” than himself or the contact he was emailing. It is unknown if he is also looking into the possibility that this was a hacker who had other motives as well.

Harmeet Dhillon, the former California GOP Vice-Chairwoman, told the Fox News host later that she was “not surprised” by the response from the NSA: “In the last 20 years since 9/11, I and other civil libertarians have been screaming about the Patriot Act and other laws – but dating back to 1947, the law said spying may only be on foreign and not on American citizens, and our government regularly flouts that.”

“Leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden subsequently showed the National Security Agency has been gathering and storing American telephone calling records for years,” Dhillon said, as she pointed out the agency’s track record of dishonesty.

“When you look at the [former Trump campaign aide] Carter Page violation, for example, the lies from the FISA court — does anybody think the national security apparatus was trying to find out Carter Page’s activities and communications? No, the truth is if they can get surveillance on an individual, what they are able to do is scoop up all communications of all of the people who reach out to that person, text them – even without any predicate,” Dhillon asserted.

It would seem that many Americans believe that Carlson is being spied upon by the NSA given the agency’s penchant for hedging the truth:


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