‘No first-hand knowledge’: GOP chair of Mich. Oversight panel won’t allow Giuliani to testify at hearing

Republican state Sen. Ed McBroom, the chairman of the Michigan Senate Oversight Committee, will not allow President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani to testify at a hearing Tuesday to review elections operations in the state.

In effect, McBroom told Jonathan Oosting, a reporter for Bridge Michigan, Giuliani had no “first-hand knowledge” of election fraud.


The hearing is taking place in the state’s capital, Lansing, and will focus on claims of irregularities in the counting of ballots at the TCF Center in Detroit.

Oosting tweeted Monday afternoon that the Republican lawmaker said Giuliani will not be allowed to participate if he shows up — it’s not clear if Giuliani is planning to attend the hearing.

The hearing will feature those with first-hand accounts of irregularities who have submitted affidavits.

On that note, McBroom said if the Trump campaign has “somebody with first-hand knowledge who wants to come in, they can put in a card and wait in line with everybody else for their three minutes.”

Whether McBroom’s remark was flippant or not is left up to the reader to decide.

In an earlier tweet, Oosting reported that amid COVID concerns, only in-person or written testimony will be accepted and that virtual testimony will not be allowed

The testimony is expected to include those who claim there was widespread fraud, and others who believe that is nonsense, Radio Results Network reported.

As for previous affidavits, McBroom dismissed most as “just plain silly.”

“The next two hearings, we’ll be bringing in people who have first-hand accounts that they want to share with us, that they’ve already shared through affidavits,” McBroom told RRN. “Like I said, some of the affidavits are just plain silly. But there are a few that are very serious.”

McBroom was also clear that the hearings will not result in overturning the election results.

“I can say with confidence that no matter what we find, whether it’s mistakes or outright fraud, I don’t have an expectation that we’re going to find that degree of it that would change things,” the senator said. “Even if we were to look at Detroit and look at what we think are anomalies, and extrapolate from that a percentage that’s similar to other ‘blue cities’ votes, it doesn’t get us to 150,000 votes flipping the other way.”


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