Audio released of testy Warren-Sanders exchange at Dem debate: ‘You called me a liar on national TV’

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During the now-viral moment in which 2020 Democrat presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren seemingly refused to shake fellow candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders’ hand after the latest primary debate Tuesday, something else extraordinary occurred.

As Warren trotted over to Sanders and appeared to ignore his extended hand, she suddenly accused him of accusing her of being a liar on “national TV,” according to background audio footage from the debate released Wednesday by CNN.

“I think you called me a liar on national TV?” she asked.

“Let’s not do it right now. You want to have that discussion, we’ll have that discussion. You called me a liar, you told me … alright, let’s not do it now,” Sanders replied.


So who’s the actual liar? That remains unknown, though conventional wisdom has it that the Massachusetts senator is the liar. Her record of lies certainly suggests it.

Their beef concerns an anonymously sourced CNN report published Monday alleging that during a private meeting between the pair in late 2018, Sanders told Warren that he didn’t believe a woman could win the 2020 presidential election.

While CNN did not identify the sources, the going theory is that they were Warren campaign operatives who purposefully leaked the alleged details of the meeting to weaken Sanders going into the upcoming Iowa Democrat caucuses.

Even fake black man Shaun King subscribes to this theory.


Following the report’s publication, Sanders described it as “ludicrous” and echoed the leading theory that Warren’s staff had purposefully leaked the allegedly false claims.

“It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win,” he said in a statement. “It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened.”

“What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”

Warren meanwhile conveniently put out a statement claiming the allegations were true but arguing that she didn’t want to talk about them:

The issue boiled over at the Tuesday debate when moderator Abby Phillip asked Sanders point-blank whether the accusations were legitimate.

He promptly said no: “I didn’t say that. … Anybody who knows me knows that it’s incomprehensible that I would think that a woman cannot be president of the United States.”

He added that there’s even a video on YouTube of him speaking 32 years ago about how a woman could one day be the president.

Fact-check: TRUE.

In a move that earned CNN derision and scorn from left-wingers and right-wingers alike, Phillip then turned to Warren and asked, “Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?”

The senator again reiterated her earlier refrain about disagreeing with Sanders’ alleged statement but not wanting to speak further about it.

Yet immediately after the debate, she rushed to Sanders to speak further about it …

What’s fascinating is the now-emerging theory that even this was staged — that Warren purposefully approached Sanders with her microphone on so that she could convey the appearance of being angry and “indignant.”


Is this possible? Quite. Despite portraying herself as an innocent, kind grandmother-like lady who just wants to make the world a nicer place, Warren has a sordid history of lying, playing games and acting shady. It’s practically her modus operandi.

While the woman may not be much of a Native American Indian, she’s definitely one very shady lady.


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