Wallace loses it over Pence video at detention center, but Kellyanne has plenty to teach him

Fox News’ Chris Wallace and White House counselor Kellyanne Conway clashed on Sunday over conditions in migrant detention centers.

Wallace asked Conway about President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence downplaying the bad conditions in detention centers. Wallace showed footage from Pence’s Friday visit to a detention center and read from the OIG (Office of Inspector General) report that described conditions in migrant detentions centers as poor.

(Screenshot from “Fox News Sunday”)

“This was the pool report, ‘Almost 400 men wearing cage defenses with no cots, the stench was horrendous, some of the men were sleeping on concrete, they began shouting and wanted to tell us they had been in there 40 days or longer,’” the “Fox News Sunday” host said. “I understand —”

“I was there,” Conway interjected.

Wallace continued, “I understand that President Trump is trying to stop the flood of people across the border which contributes —”

“We’re also trying to accommodate those who are here,” Conway added.

Wallace answered by continuing his thought.

“—contributes to the overcrowding, but how does it help for the president to minimize the situation and say it’s much better than what they had, or for Vice President Pence, in Kevin Corke’s piece, to say they’re all being well treated, when your own … I mean, you can look at the conditions there, it’s a disaster.”

Conway answered by giving Wallace “facts.”

“Well, let me just say a couple of things that are facts,” Conway said. “First of all, not every facility is the same.”

“But I’m talking about that one,” Wallace interjected.

“Okay, well, and I’m talking about the one that the media who were on the same trip with us completely ignored in all of their coverage,” Conway said.

As the White House counselor was getting into briefs she has received from CBP (U.S. Customs and Border Protection), Wallace interrupted again.

“What do you say about McAllen Texas, Kellyanne?” Wallace asked.


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“What I would say is this. That that facility was meant to be, this is what I was briefed on, that facility was meant to be a 72-hour holding facility,” Conway said. “It’s not equipped to keep single males who have broken the law by coming here and were apprehended. If you just want to let them go, then say that we just are open borders.”

Wallace jumped back into the conversation then and said, “But does it help for the president to say well, they’re really, conditions are pretty good, and for Mike pence to say they’re pretty good?”

“In plenty of facilities, they have improved, including the one that we saw with the families,” Conway answered. As she started pushing blame to House Democrats for not making real progress on the issue of illegal immigration, Wallace interrupted her yet again.

“Shouldn’t you be judged on the worst facilities, and the worst mistreatment of these people? Shouldn’t you be judged on that?” Wallace asked.

“Oh yes,” Conway answered. She then circled back around and talked about CBP briefs that show progress made on conditions in migrant detention center.

She said about detained migrants, “those men get three hot meals from local restaurants, they now have to access to showers, there were no shower facilities there to accommodate that many people in the past, but there are now. There’s a bank of showers in the back. They have the access to deodorant, they have access to hygienic products, they have access to toothbrushes.”

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