Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Jessica Tarlov locked horns in a heated exchange during a Fox News debate over border security policies.
A panel discussion turned contentious as the former Utah Republican clashed with the progressive Fox News contributor on “Outnumbered” Monday as they argued over President Donald Trump’s plan to release illegal immigrants detained at the southern U.S. border into so-called “sanctuary cities” in an effort to relieve over-crowding at facilities.
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“This is where I just get so, just so frustrated with the Democrats. They say they care and they’re compassionate, but they won’t fund enough beds to make sure that these families can stay together,” Chaffetz said, sparking the discourse that highlighted the differences between Republicans and Democrats over immigration policy.
“They say they care, but they put enough people in the Border Patrol to deal with it. In some areas, 40 percent of the Border Patrol are taking care of people, they’re doing diapers, they’re getting them Apple juice, compassionate things, but it ultimately means they’re not on the border,” he argued.
“And when the Democrats endorse sanctuary cities, they won’t fund the wall, they’re sending a signal to people in Central and South America, saying come up here because if you can somehow break into the country, we’re not going to deport you,” he added. “That is a perverted, wrong, fundamentally wrong thing to do.”
Tarlov fired back, accusing the former chairman of the U.S. House Oversight Committee of not understanding the concept of “sanctuary cities.”
“I think that you fundamentally misunderstand what sanctuary cities are about. They are about creating an environment where the 11-13 million people who are already here, who have been here a long time — ” she began before Chaffetz corrected her.
“No, it is enticing for the people to come here and break laws. In engaging in human trafficking,” he said.
“Could I finish my sentence? Want to make sure that people who are already here, many of them who are paying taxes, by the way — ” Tarlov attempted to complete her point.
“Oh, so that makes it okay. If they pay taxes — ” Chaffetz interjected, prompting her to respond, “Just give me one sentence, Jason.”
“Yeah, one sentence that will make a difference, because they are already here, and they’re paying taxes!?” he fired back.
“Let me just register my opposition to what you are saying and then maybe during the break I can tell you what I was going to say,” a frustrated Tarlov said. “And the fact that there are a number of Republicans, Republican mayors who do think that they’re a good idea, including the fact that New York City is a sanctuary city, Rudy Giuliani was supportive of it, but we’ll talk in the break, and I’m sure it will be fruitful.”
Host Harris Faulkner finally remarked, “Oh, this will be a good commercial, you all.”
“And I’ll report whatever comes out of that,” she added.
The president spoke about his “sick idea” to relocate migrants to sanctuary cities during a rally over the weekend.
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“Last month alone, 100,000 illegal immigrants arrived at our borders, placing a massive strain on communities and schools and hospitals and public resources like nobody’s ever seen before,” Trump said Saturday during a rally in Green Bay, Wis. “Now we’re sending many of them to sanctuary cities. Thank you very much. They’re not too happy about it. I’m proud to tell you that was actually my sick idea.”
“What did they say? ‘We want them,'” he added. “I said we’ll give em to you.”
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