Fox News’ Outnumbered co-hosts Harris Faulkner and Marie Harf exchanged words on the program Thursday after the latter claimed that the show doesn’t focus enough on COVID-19 deaths as they increase around the country.
The show’s co-hosts and guest, country music star John Rich, were discussing newl- imposed coronavirus restrictions in many states, including California, where Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) recently ordered many venues to shutter-up again, including restaurants’ outdoor dining areas.
“We’re forty-three minutes into this show and we haven’t mentioned yet that 3,000 Americans died yesterday, more than on 9/11, and every day, for a while, we’re gonna have that many American’s deaths,” Harf said.
“And so, I agree that regulations should be driven by science, I’ve always said that. And I’ve also always said that outdoor is much safer than indoors,” she continued, adding that she believes some leaders around the country are trying their best to deal with the pandemic.
“They’re not always perfect…and they do hurt businesses. They’re trying to help businesses,” she said. “But as we debate these regulations we cannot lose sight of the tragedy that is unfolding every single day in this country in large part because people wanna go about life as normal and a lot of people don’t wanna wear masks, even though the evidence is overwhelming that they save lives.”
As co-host Katie Pavlich began to respond, Faulkner jumped in and addressed Harf.
“I feel like you took a shot at us there. And maybe you felt it was necessary, I don’t know,” Faulkner began. “If you don’t think that our hearts are big enough to mourn for the people who we have lost during this pandemic…what exactly are you trying to say?
“That is offensive and it is not true,” Faulkner scolded. “It is not true.”
She added that “the best way to protect those people that we love so much is to make sure that the decisions we make give them longevity after the pandemic as well and to get what we do right based the science, not just, ‘Oh, my gosh, the numbers are ballooning, let’s destroy everything in the process of trying to save it.’
“But please, keep your judgment someplace where you know you can fact-check it because you can’t see my heart,” Faulkner continued. “And trust me when I tell you — it hurts all of us to lose those Americans.”
“Then let’s talk about it,” Harf responded. “Let’s talk about that more than talking about Democratic hypocrisy.”
“We are talking about it,” Faulkner shot back a couple of times.
“Well, we aren’t enough…it’s my opinion and I get to give my opinion,” Harf responded.
Faulkner then said that the messaging from top health officials early in the pandemic, especially regarding the use of masks, was confusing and ultimately wrong while noting further that masks and other equipment needed to mitigate the spread of the virus were also in very short supply early on.
“But my gosh, you can’t judge everybody by the same brush,” Faulkner continued.
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