Condoleezza brawls with NBC’s Savanna Guthrie over Russia-Trump

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was ready to talk about the 18th anniversary of 9/11 when she appeared on NBC’s Today Show on Wednesday – not feed the Trump/Russian collusion narrative.

Rice was quick to shut down NBC anchor Savannah Guthrie when she asked if Russia had an influence in electing Donald Trump to the Oval Office.

“Do you think it’s possible that Russia’s election interference actually worked? Guthrie asked about Trump’s win.

“I don’t think there is any evidence of that,” Rice said. “And, you know, I really don’t think that’s a good conversation to have.”

But, Rice was just warming up. She let Guthrie really have it when she told the Today Show host her question “devalued” the votes from swing states. Votes that likely came in large part from the proverbial “forgotten men and women” the Trump campaign targeted and promised to help.

“I think that really does devalue the people in Wisconsin and Michigan and others who decided to vote for President Trump,” Rice continued.

“Whether you like this president or not, whether you believe that he should have been president or not, let’s give the credit to the Americans who went out and voted for somebody who they thought would bring change.”

Perhaps, Rice was a bit taken aback by the question. While the Russian narrative has been a relentless drumbeat of the liberal media for several years, it was largely abandoned after former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees in July.

The New York Times even held a pow-wow to discuss a company-wide narrative shift (to focus on racism) after the Russia collusion mantra died.

Apparently, NBC’s Guthrie didn’t get the memo.

Watch the interview below, the Russia discussion begins around 5:35.


Rice continued, saying the focus should be on the American men and women who demanded change.

“The question is: Are we going to be responsive to some of the messages that were out there … people who felt that they were disadvantaged by globalization – the unemployed coal miner in West Virginia, the opioid-addicted person in Pennsylvania – are we going to be responsive to those people? That’s really the question we should be asking,” Rice said.

Rice couldn’t be more right, but she would’ve been ready if Guthrie used the NYT’s race-baiting strategy as well. In June, Rice cut off NBC host Sheinelle Jones when she asked a loaded question about race relations under Trump.

“There are people who will say it feels worse now when we’re talking about race and that it feels like a divisive environment –” Jones began before she was cut off.

“It sure doesn’t feel worse than when I grew up in Jim Crow Alabama,” Rice shot back. “So let’s drop this notion that we’re worse race relations today than we were in the past. That means we’ve made no progress. Really?”

“I think the hyperbole about how much worse it is isn’t doing us any good,” Rice then said. “This country’s never going to be colorblind — we had the initial original sin of slavery. It’s still with us.”

That interview can be watched here.

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