Comedian and talk show host Bill Maher has drawn praise for his willingness to break from the liberal herd to criticize the “woke” movement but just can’t shake his Trump Derangement Syndrome, clashing with Dr. Phil McGraw over the former president.
The famous television psychologist sat down with the “Real Time With Bill Maher” host on the latest edition of his “Club Random” podcast for a wide-ranging discussion when the topic turned to politics and the state of the nation.
While both hosts were in agreement on the dangerous excesses of the left-wing culture war on America, they had great differences when it came to the presidency, particularly over Trump whom Maher despises.
Asked for his opinion on the trajectory of the country, Dr. Phil stated that it’s “headed for a cliff” and things went south when Maher pressed him on the reason for his grim prognosis.
“Well, it depends on what category you want to talk about, and look… I stayed non-political because I think there’s idiocy on both sides,” McGraw responded, referencing GOP lawmakers who shouted at President Joe Biden during the State of the Union address.
“I’m not a big fan of our president or the last one, but I respect the office of the president and to see somebody screaming liar… that disrespects the office. I think the rest of the world’s gotta be looking at that going ‘God,’” he said.
The host then admonished McGraw for mentioning Trump and Biden “in the same breath.”
“They are very different people and one of them is much more of a threat to the republic. And that would be the 45th. Would you not agree?” Maher asked, giving Biden a pass for taking a wrecking ball to the country since his inauguration.
“C’mon, threat to the republic Joe Biden?” Maher said, defending the divider-in-chief. “No. Joe Biden is a return to normalcy, yet a Democrat who is yes, too much ensorcelled by his fringe left. He will not ever tell them to sit down and shut up. But I will take that bargain, much as I don’t like it, and it’s bitter, I will take that bargain over Trump. Come on.”
“Well, I’m concerned about both sides. And I’m particularly concerned about this woke agenda that’s being pushed,” McGraw responded.
“So you may think that you’re not gonna be political, but you’re being political and I think it’s a good place for you to go. You can’t avoid it anymore,” Maher responded. “You can’t avoid it, and I need allies who are …now again, I come back to Trump, you gotta like be on the page that he’s worse than Joe Biden and very different than Joe Biden, come on doc.”
McGraw shot back, “It’s not politics that determine the outcome of society, it’s culture. I don’t care about politics… I don’t care about that. I care about our culture,” noting that throughout the nation’s history, both parties have been in control for about an equal amount of time.
“Okay? I’m disappointed that I can’t get you to just out and out say that Trump is a completely different animal than the politics on the left and the right that we both agree is very lacking on both sides,” said Maher, perplexed that not everyone shares his obsessive hatred of Trump.
“He is a completely different element and much more dangerous,” Maher continued, denying McGraw a chance to get a word in. “I mean, we’re talking about some sort of unnatural predator that was introduced into this wild which was a jungle in the first place. But this is a different element.”
“Nobody else has ever tried to not concede an election in this country, tried to overturn an election we all-even the people in his own party understood was lost. That is a Rubicon that we have crossed. That makes him completely unique, a unicorn if a unicorn was a big fat a**hole. If I can’t have your faith on that, it’s very hard for me to understand where you’re coming from on any issue,” he railed.
“I’m telling you this, that’s a copout. What difference does it make? A: he’s not in power now. B: he’s probably not gonna be,” McGraw responded, emphasizing that he sees “this cancel culture bulls**t” as a far greater threat than Trump, likening it to the dystopian nightmare world envisioned by George Orwell in his book “1984” only that instead of the government, Americans are “doing it to each other.”
Maher eventually backed down, acknowledging their ability to remain friends despite their differences over Trump.
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