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Kevin McCarthy: ‘I know who recorded me’ talking about Trump privately in wake of Jan. 6

September 16, 2022 | | Print Article

Remember that time, just after the January 6, 2021, ruckus at the Capitol, when House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (D-Calif.) was caught on a leaked audio telling then-House Republican Conference chair Rep. Liz Cheney (D- Wyo.) that he was “seriously thinking” about telling former President Donald Trump to resign?

Well, more than nine months later, McCarthy says he knows who recorded him, and he will reveal the identity of the culprit at some future point in time.

“I know who recorded me,” he said Thursday, according to Politico. “I’ll bring it forward. I have it.”

McCarthy didn’t offer any additional details, but as American Wire News previously reported, The New York Times last spring published jaw-dropping audio footage from a conversation that took place on Jan. 10, 2021, in which McCarthy harshly criticized Trump and his role in the Capitol riot.

In the clip, Cheney asked, “I guess there’s a question. When we’re talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked if, you know, what happens if it gets there after he’s gone, is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that might happen?”

McCarthy responded by saying he would have a “conversation” about resigning with Trump that night.

“I’ve had some few discussions. My gut tells me no. I’m seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight,” he said. “I haven’t talked to him in a couple of days. From what I know of him, I mean, you guys all know him too, do you think he’d ever back away? But what I think I’m going to do is I’m going to call him. This is what I think.”

The GOP leader went on to question whether the Dems would pursue yet another impeachment if Trump walked away.

“We know it’ll pass the House. I think there’s a chance it’ll pass the Senate even when he’s gone. And I think there’s a lot of different ramifications for that,” he said. “Now, I haven’t had a discussion with the Dems, that if he did resign, would that happen?”

He then revisited the idea of Trump resigning and mulled over the potential pitfalls of the plan.

“Now, this is one personal fear I have. I do not want to get into any conversation about Pence pardoning,” he stated. “Again, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommendation you should resign. I mean, that would be my take. But I don’t think he would take it. But I don’t know.”

In the days immediately before and after the release of The Times article, McCarthy denied the conversation had taken place.

“McCarthy never said he’d call Trump to say he should resign,” his spokesperson said prior to the publication.

McCarthy himself took to Twitter to make his case, calling the New York Times reporting “totally false and wrong.”

“It comes as no surprise that the corporate media is obsessed with doing everything it can to further a liberal agenda,” he wrote hours before the conversation went public.

“The past year and a half have proven that our country was better off when President Trump was in the White House, and rather than address the real issues facing Americans, the corporate media is more concerned with profiting from manufactured political intrigue from politically-motivated sources,” he continued. “Our country has suffered enough under failed one-party Democrat rule and no amount of media ignorance and bias will stop Americans from delivering a clear message this fall that it is time for change.”

While tensions between McCarthy and Trump have appeared to have subsided over the ensuing months, McCarthy’s remarks to Politico prove that his initial denials were more than a little misleading, leaving many to renew their distrust of the man who is poised to take over as Speaker of the House should Republicans regain the majority in the November midterm elections.

“Honestly the problem isn’t that you know who recorded you- it’s your words,” wrote one user on Twitter. “You want to focus on that you can’t trust your coworkers- We need to focus on that we can’t trust you.”

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