CNN’s Evan Perez: Dealing with ISIS ‘was frankly a lot easier’ than dealing with those threatening FBI

CNN’s so-called Senior Justice Correspondent Evan Perez went off the deep end comparing the ginned-up threat against the FBI by Trump supporters to ISIS, claiming the vicious terrorist group was easier to deal with.

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CNN host Kate Bolduan kicked off the segment by asking a contrived, biased question directed at former Deputy Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe, “How do you describe the threat level against the FBI?”

“Unprecedented. Never seen anything like this in my 21 years with the bureau. It’s not completely crazy for individuals and the FBI to be the subject of threats as a result of cases they’re working but this is the first time I’ve ever seen a broadside of all FBI personnel considered part of this reporting. It’s just terrifying. There are 56 field offices around the country. There are 400 FBI locations total including those field offices so you’re talking about a lot of people in a lot of different places and communities around the country exposed to this,” McCabe dramatically stated.

“And not faceless, not nameless. These are people known and out there, which is different than other top-level investigators in the federal government,” Bolduan pointed out.

“Absolutely right,” McCabe responded.

Bolduan went on to pivot the Perez over the propagandized threat to the FBI and law enforcement.

“Evan, add to this what has already been a period of heightened threat, the FBI — I mean, I’m sure more now but the latest data is the FBI has 2,700 open domestic terror investigations, which is double, doubled since spring 2020. Is the FBI doing anything differently to protect agents while they are doing this most important work?” the CNN host asked.

“Yeah, they are. And one of the first measures they’ve had to do is protect the two agents listed in the court record. The court record released by the court did not show their names but the former president’s social media platform pushed out some of these reports on conservative media that showed the names and immediately afterward, you saw people going online trying to dox them and figure out how to find their addresses and find their family members,” Perez responded.

“That is what they’re dealing with and having to take measures to protect these people and other people working on the investigations beyond this one, there are others. Obviously, because of the January 6th investigations, it’s something that I don’t think I’ve ever seen the agents have to deal with and, you know, something like this,” he continued.

Bolduan turned to McCabe asking him if trying to tamp down the rising anger out there would even work.

“Yeah. And Andy, you spoke last week… I remember it because I took note of it… that it is time for leadership on all sides to step up and calm things down, to proactively be out there, talking people essentially off the ledge on this. But why do you think that is? Why do you think that is necessary? I wonder if you think it will work at this point considering where things are right now?” Bolduan wondered.

“Well, first of all, it can’t hurt. Secondly, I think we have good reason to believe it would have some effect,” McCabe replied.

“Let’s look back to the last time this happened in a similar way, January 6th, the lead-up to January 6th is the last time we’ve seen these broad threats. They happened. The mob assembled in the Capitol and rioted on the Capitol grounds. That violence tapered off after the president told folks to go home. That’s a community that listens closely to the things the former president says. No reason to believe it’s different now. Generally, I think we have accelerated over-heated political rhetoric. People are referring to war and civil war and fighting…” McCabe commented.

“Battles. Exactly right,” Bolduan interjected.

That has got to be ratcheted back to get people to reacknowledge the fact that political violence and pursuit of political aims is never acceptable,” he remarked.

Then came the domestic terrorism pivot, outrageously comparing angry Americans to ISIS in an effort to paint anyone that objects to the actions of the Biden administration and federal agencies as a violent extremist.

“Andy is getting to something that’s a big challenge here. Evan, I’m sure you’re hearing the FBI and DHS are pointing to the increased landscape and in doing so pointing to most of the threats occurring online. It is how big is the challenge to still track such a threat or all of these threats and anticipate when it goes to move away from online to real-life action,” Bolduan posited.

“Yeah, look, you hear from Chris Wray all the time because he gets asked this in congressional hearings where people raise the concern about rhetoric that you hear and the trick for the FBI is that they’re not allowed to monitor social media for First Amendment protected things, right? You can say all kinds of stuff on social media and then the trick or the challenge for the investigators is to figure out where to intervene and where to figure out when somebody is going beyond just saying very heated things and plans to take action. That’s the toughest thing,” Perez noted.

“Especially… look, the previous era where we were dealing with this was with ISIS and some of the radicalization from Islamic terrorists, that was frankly a lot easier because those groups were banned, right? There was a prohibition on associating yourself with ISIS. In this case, there is no such thing. So it’s even harder to try to intervene,” he contended.

“Great point. Important point. Evan, thank you,” Bolduan agreed, concluding the segment.

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