The more that is learned about the 18-year-old suspect responsible for the massacre at a Texas elementary school, the more it appears the tragedy may have been wholly preventable as Salvador Ramos had made one request of his older sister serving in the U.S. Navy that she “flatly refused.”
Following the tragedy at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, TX where 19 children and two teachers were killed, in addition to positing measures that may be taken to stop another atrocity like this from happening again, many wondered if there were overlooked signs that the suspect’s violence was inevitable. Now, according to the Daily Mail, it is being reported he approached his older sister Marisabelle Ramos for an earlier attempt at purchasing a firearm.
Rolando Reyes, grandfather to the suspect, explained, “My granddaughter Marisabelle is in the Navy and currently stationed in San Diego, California.” The 21-year-old rushed home to be with her grandmother Celia who is currently in hospital having been shot in the face as the first victim of the horrible tragedy.
As part of their investigation, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw explained that the suspect had continually discussed obtaining a firearm and shooting up a school and had even asked his sister to buy him one before he was old enough to do so himself. McCraw said “she flatly refused” when the request was made in September. The suspect purchased the firearms used in the massacre on his 18th birthday.
Salvador Ramos Sr., father of the suspect, stated of Marisabelle, “My daughter, I guess, changed her life, she went to the Navy. I wish my son would have gone and changed his life.”
Rep. Gonzales: Uvalde shooter arrested 4 yrs ago for threatening to shoot up a school — in 2022 https://t.co/opj42MrP47
— American Wire News (@americanwire_) May 27, 2022
According to Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX) who represents the people of Uvalde, the suspect may have been arrested as a minor and stated his intent at the time — juvenile police records are not readily available in most cases.
“The shooter was arrested years ago, four years ago, for having this plan for basically saying, you know, when I’m a senior in 2022, I am going to shoot up a school,” the lawmaker said.
“Something fell between the cracks between then and now to allow this happen,” he went on. “We need to shake out all the facts. We need to figure out what happened. Where the holes and we need to make sure it doesn’t happen again. But if law enforcement, you know, identified him four years ago as a threat, we need to figure out why he wasn’t – you know, how he got removed from that.”
Uvalde shooter was ‘violent towards women’ according to classmates, threatened teen girls online https://t.co/jP6VUr641r pic.twitter.com/IWWfUkg4Md
— Conservative News (@BIZPACReview) May 28, 2022
The suspect was also reported as frequently displaying violent tendencies with one girl, Keanna Baxter, recounting how her friend had dated him saying, “She told me that he was scary. Like he would get super violent. And when he would lose his temper, she would literally be scared for her life, basically.”
Other stories detailed how he would look to have fights over the slightest transgressions and Baxter stated, “To be honest, no one ever spoke to him. Just because people were genuinely afraid of him.”
As for the grandmother, Reyes explained that his granddaughter has been by his wife’s side, “She’s with her grandmother in the hospital and staying in San Antonio for the time being.”
“My wife’s condition is day-to-day,” he added. “We are praying for her.”
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“Something fell between the cracks”
Time to confiscate guns from all law abiding not deranged citizens.
Kudos to the sister for refusing her brother’s request, but where was the father who “wishes” his murderous son could have changed HIS life & attitude around. The more we hear of young Salvador Ramos, the more obvious his dysfunction becomes & yet nothing was done. The school, which knew of his anti-social & frankly, psychopathic behavior, barely looked at him. His family, excepting only his sister, turned the same blind eye to his actions, & yet he is absolutely a classic case of a budding killer. Altho’ I am a rabid supporter of gun rights & the 2nd Amendment, I do believe that there is both a need for & a means of implementing “Red Flag Laws” which might well seriously reduce these kinds of tragedies.- & I know because I had to do it with my older brother. For years, I’d watched him losing grip on reality & as his world tumbled out of control, the more he began to blame the world for it & the more the anger & violent imagery proliferated, to the point where I went to his father (who still lived near him, I was on the opposite coast) & told him that either he moved to disarm his son & force him into treatment or I would. To the credit of both his father & his younger brother, they did so, tho’ he had managed to disassemble & secret a single shot shotgun with which he killed himself under circumstances which strongly suggested that he’d intended to not go alone. Tho’ I ache for his loss, every time something like this shooting happen, I know in my heart that the alternative was likely worse & the body count potentially far greater. With a few changes, with some procedures and processes in place, it is possible nobody would have died, but we must make sure that those who are in position to see these problems developing have both the obligation & the means to forestall or prevent them.
If “Red Flag Laws” are the answer, then why don’t we have them? The answer is simple: The anti-gunners don’t want them. They NEED the death count to justify their war on guns. Several decades ago, the NRA and the ACLU came up with model, draft legislation for a red flag law which might well have worked to seriously reduce these kinds of tragedies without abrogating the right to keep and bear arms – think of it, the NRA AND the ACLU in agreement and producing workable legislation! Amazing! But whenever such legislation was introduced, the first thing that happened is that the Left/Liberal/Progressive side immediately freighted it with blatantly – and highly objectionable amendments which destroyed the consensus so carefully worked out and which turned the bill into a vehicle for gun grabs, utterly at odds with the original intent of the legislation. When the Left can bargain in good faith, perhaps we can fix the problem but make no mistake about it, the Left loves dead children.
You did the right thing!
There is a huge difference between “he was bullied” and “people were too afraid to be around him”. I hope they get the actually truth out eventually. Because right now, every story seems to contradict another story.
Every adult involved with this shooter needs to look in a mirror and ask themselves how they could have intervened and prevented it…. They need to do this Before discussing guns, or elections, or adding to the mountain of laws that already exist.
I am telling you that “Restorative Justice” this ultra-mega-woke policy is ruining safety and learning in our schools. The way this screwball paradigm goes is that: TEACHERS provoke students and are the ones who need to reflect on their teacher reactions. In addition, the aim is for NO kids to miss class EVER. No expulsions. The philosophy is that if kids with a screw loose miss school due to being expelled, they will likely pursue a life of crime and end up in prison. The “school to prison pipeline” argument. This horrid policy is everywhere, even in sweet and sleepy Uvalde. Good for his sister who made positive choices to escape a terrible family situation and refused to buy a gun for her sick-in-the-head brother. They give the disturbed and potentially dangerous kids carte blanche at the expense of kids who go to school to actually learn.
You are correct about NOBODY missing school. It should be against the law to drop out of school before graduation. This would cut down crime and supporting uneducated people for eternity on welfare & food stamps. Taxpayers need a break! When dropouts realize they can’t make enough to buy a car and nobody will give them credit, they turn to CRIME! Hell, they can’t afford to put gas in the tank!
So it starts to come out all the observations by many in Uvalde that should have caused the lunatic shooter to be locked up in the state’s “LOONIE BIN.”
Same in all of the previous shooting incidents, throughout the nation!
WAKE UP AMERICA,WE CAN PREVENT THESE SHOOTING INCIDENTS,
SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING ! ! !
Let’s get these loonies in the lock up, be it the Loonie Bin, or prison.
I’m a grandpa, I do not want to see this happen to any of my Grandchildren, even those that don’t have any of my DNA. Trust me, I have “adopted” or been “adopted” as grandpa by more youngsters than I can count. That’s in addition to my own 5 children and 5 Grandchildren.
USA, BLESS GOD AGAIN ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
GOD BLESS THE USA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Barry Age 77
PO1 USN RET
Vietnam 3x (Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club)
#F J B #L G B
They began defunding the govt run mental health centers back while you were enjoying your tropical vacations for Uncle Sam. Seems that the rights of the mentally ill are far more important than protecting the rights of the public.
Thank you for your service and Happy Memorial Day!
This kid was surrounded by “woke”.
Never had his butt kicked.
No discipline.
Woke teachers I would suspect.
Woke law enforcement who are now choir girls from sensitivity training and surely no balls whatsoever. Waiting for the janitor to bring keys.
Somehow we have to get control of this situation.
Then we have tough guys like Trudeau in Canada who with his masked horse men ride over grannies in walkers and violently throwing 80 year old men to the pavement hurting them badly to arrest them for “political views” that are not pro liberal government.
Corrupt Texas Senator Jon Cornyn and Corrupt Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw both attended Claus Schwab Rothschild Davos Group meeting before shooting. Yes. No coincidence that both men are pushing Anti 2nd Amendment agenda in violation of their oath under Article 6 of United States Constitution! Educate yourself in the International Communist Plan (1919-1943).
Public Safety Sheriff ‘Pedro Arrendondo’who ordered the stand down whilst children were being murdered appointed to City Councilman District 3. 🤔
Yea and he will never be re-elected for Sheriff ever again! Actually he should be FIRED!