Dr. Carol Swain: 1619 Project’s Nikole Hannah-Jones outed herself as an author of ‘creative fiction’

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Much like she did with her 1619 Project, NY Times essayist Nikole Hannah-Jones keeps getting it wrong. Seemingly trying to resurrect the messaging of failed Virginia gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe, the so-called journalist said recently she doesn’t understand why parents feel the need to be involved in their children’s education.

“I don’t really understand this idea that parents should decide what’s being taught,” Hannah-Jones said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I’m not a professional educator. I don’t have a degree in social studies or science,” she said.

Author and former professor Dr. Carol Swain joined Fox News’ “Fox and Friends” and took issue with Hannah-Jones’ vacuous statements.

Unlike the NYT writer, Swain has been a professional educator most of her life. She told host Will Cain that “some of the worst ideas in history have come from professional educators.” She said professional educators should not be trusted with children because they have cultural agendas that are rooted in cultural Marxism, including the dismantling of the nuclear family structure and religious freedoms in place of allegiance to authoritarian state rule.

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“It’s not about helping our children. It’s about the destruction of our traditional institutions and way of life.”

Cain raised the point that although the notorious 1619 Project has been widely debunked by historians across the nation, some schools and universities seek to use it as a foundational tool for American history curriculum.

Swain replied that although Hannah-Jones has won numerous awards including a Pulitzer Prize for Commentary, she is “an author of creative fiction.”

“So, if you want your child to be taught creative fiction, then trust Nikole Hannah-Jones and those people that have given her the ‘Good Housekeeping’ seal of approval, even though she’s not qualified to teach as a professor at a university,” she continued, “She just said it herself. She’s not a professional educator, she’s a journalist.”

Swain added, “There’s nothing wrong with being a journalist. Some of my best friends are journalists, but the ones that I know that are journalists know that they’re journalists and not professional educators, and Nikole just admitted that she knows.”

At the root of the issue, Cain remarked, is the fundamental question of who is the steward and mentor of their children? Parents or “experts?”

Hannah-Jones surfaces in the news at regular intervals, usually by way of outlandish and racist statements meant to pour gasoline on the fire of racial division sown by the Left, once going so far as to say she would be honored if the many destructive and often deadly riots of 2020 were named “The 1619 Riots.”

She also claimed rather dishonestly that Martin Luther King Jr. never called for “a colorblind society.”

As BPR reported in November, Hannah-Jones tweeted as part of a lengthy rant the following:

“Dr. King never called for a colorblind society. He called for a society that stopped treating Black people as second-class citizens and for specific race-based policies to address the 350 years of race-based discrimination. Dr. King talked about race, Black & white, ALL THE TIME,” Hannah-Jones concluded.

In King’s most famous, “I Have a Dream” speech given in 1963, he called on people not to “be judged by the color of their skin but by their character.”


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