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America’s coronavirus prince of darkness, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has approved the celebration of Halloween this year, not that anybody had been seeking his approval.
Unfortunately, that was the only good news he had to offer when he appeared Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” to speak with host Dana Bash.
The conversation pertaining specifically to Halloween began with Bash asking for his “guidance” on children trick-or-treating.
He replied by encouraging parents to allow their children to trick-or-treat, but he couldn’t resist promoting the coronavirus vaccine while at it.
“I think that — particularly if you’re vaccinated — but you can get out there. You’re outdoors for the most part, [or] at least when my children were out there doing trick-or-treating. And enjoy it. I mean, this is a time that children love. It’s a very important part of the year for children. I know my children enjoyed it,” he said.
“So, I mean, again, particularly if you’re vaccinated. If you’re not vaccinated, again, think about it, that you will add an extra degree of protection to yourself and your children and your family and your community. So it’s a good time to reflect on why it’s important to get vaccinated, but go out there and enjoy Halloween, as well as the other holidays that will be coming up.”
Listen:
As noted earlier, some people didn’t necessarily care whether or not Fauci offered his approval.
Look:
Im not waiting for that fool to tell me whats ok or not
— CountDrunkwizard (@JBandimere) October 10, 2021
How about I’ve never ask the government for permission to do anything…..they can gfts!
— Super tanned white dude (@whowantsadab) October 10, 2021
We trick or treated last year and will do so this year as well.
— Clin (@LadyClin) October 10, 2021
— daheater (@daheater3) October 10, 2021
Changing topic, Bash then asked Fauci how long “it will be until it’s safe for vaccinated people to once again be indoors without a mask?”
Note that some experts have argued from day one that forcing the vaccinated to mask up is ultimately harmful because it disincentivizes vaccination.
The “doctor” replied by refusing to offer a specific date, instead saying that it’ll be determined by the “dynamics of the outbreak.”
“It’s always tough to predict that. I think if we continue to go down in the cases that we’re seeing right now, and more and more people get vaccinated, as the dynamics of the outbreak — namely, the amount of virus circulating in the community — goes down,” he said.
“I hope we will be able to pull back on some of those restrictions to get closer to what we really feel is normal in the community. I hope that’s soon. But I can’t give a prediction of a date on that, Dana.”
The dynamics of the outbreak thus far have strongly suggested that mask policies — particularly for the vaccinated — make very little difference.
The Florida Department of Education reported last week that Florida school districts that aren’t forcing children to mask up have had virtually the same rate of decline in COVID cases as the districts which have imposed a mask mandate:
“Districts with opt-outs or no policy have seen an average decrease of 65% in positivity from the week ending Aug. 19 to the week ending Sep. 30. Districts with no opt-out have seen an average decrease of 67%.”—@richardcorcoran pic.twitter.com/ZfR0iOZPZU
— Florida Department of Education (@EducationFL) October 7, 2021
Some have pushed back on these sorts of numbers by pointing to data from Wisconsin showing that the spread of COVID in some communities far surpassed the spread in schools where mask mandates were in place.
But in the thread below, a senior researcher responsible for procuring the data — Tracy Høeg, a woman who admits she’d usually be apt to push this theory herself — in fact pushes back on the theory by noting a couple important discrepancies:
Nice depiction in @Forbes showing COVID in schools vs. from schools vs in the community as observed in Wood, Co, WI. As senior author of this study, it was tempting for me to believe this pattern was contingent on masking kids, but for many reasons I have come to doubt this 🧵: pic.twitter.com/ZpeyM8d4Ue
— Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD (@TracyBethHoeg) September 2, 2021
First, around 8% of the kids in the study were not compliant with masking. Second, kids ate lunch indoors (unmasked, of course). Third, the Scandinavian experience has been similar to Wood Co where school spread minimal but kids unmasked (https://t.co/YIzVk374EE).
— Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD (@TracyBethHoeg) September 2, 2021
Fauci tends to avoid such data. So do the media, for that matter.
Continuing his remarks on CNN, he said that the declining case and hospitalization numbers from across the country just aren’t good enough.
“Right now, even though we just said it’s going in the right direction — we have less than 100,000 cases a day, it’s about 95,000 as the 7-day average — that’s still way too high. We want to get way, way down to that. I mean, I’d like to see it well below 10,000, and even much lower than that,” he said.
“But when you’re at 95,000, that’s still a situation where you have a high degree of dynamic circulation of virus in the community.”
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