‘We’ve gotta do unusual things’: Fauci downplays ‘individual freedom’ in passionate bid for stricter mandates

Dr. Anthony Fauci on Tuesday downplayed Americans’ “individual freedom” and insisted that more people get vaccinated, even if it means mandating the shots in many cases.

In an interview with MSNBC, the nation’s lead immunologist also said that he agrees with the head of the nation’s largest teachers union that they should be mandated to take a COVID-19 vaccine ahead of the coming school year before returning to in-person classroom instruction.

“If you let the virus smolder, it’s not gonna just smolder benignly,” he said. “If it goes from person to person you give it ample opportunity to mutate.

“When you have a virus like this, the only way you get at it really well is you crush it,” Fauci continued. “You get as many people vaccinated as you possibly can.”

Fauci, who has been accused of taking part in funding “gain of function” research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, where some believe COVID-19 originated, went on to say the U.S. and other first-world countries should be providing vaccines to “poor and middle-income” nations as well so their populations don’t serve as incubators for mutations as well.

“You don’t want to have a mutation and a variant from another country with all the travel that goes on get to the United States,” Fauci continued. “We have the tools to stop this. And that’s the thing that’s so painful and frustrating. We have 615 and more thousand people in this country that died from this.

“We have to take this seriously, so when you hear people saying, ‘Well, I don’t really wanna be told to get vaccinated’ — you know, I can understand the need for people’s personal liberties,” he continued, “but this is a very unusual time in our history, and that’s the reason why we’ve gotta do unusual things.”

Fauci was also asked if he agreed with Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, who said recently she backed mandatory vaccines for public school educators and staff.

“I’m going to upset people on this, but I think we should,” Fauci responded. “We are in a critical situation now. We’ve had 615,000 plus deaths, and we are in a major surge now as we’re going into the fall, into the school season. This is very serious business.”

He went on to say that “you’re not going to get mandates centrally from the federal government,” and that they would have to come from state and local governments.

“I’m sorry. I know people must like to have their individual freedom and not be told to do something, but I think we’re in such a serious situation now that under certain circumstances, mandates should be done,” he added.

But some medical professionals are saying that masking, social distancing, and even vaccines are not effective and may be contributing to the creation of variants.

In a presentation to the Mt. Vernon Community School Board in Fortville, Ind., last week, local family physician Dr. Dan Stock, whose specialty is immunology, broke down the “counterfactual” guidance he says is being given by state health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as other federal health officials.

“You cannot stop spread, you cannot make these numbers that you’ve planned on get better by doing any of the things that you’re doing,” he told the board at one point.

“Because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens. And you can’t prevent it with a vaccine because they don’t do the very thing you’re wanting them to do,” he added.

“And you will be chasing this through the remainder of your life until you recognize the Centers for Disease Control and the Indiana State Board of Health are giving you very bad scientific guidance,” Stock added.

Jon Dougherty

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