American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten was getting schooled so badly by Fox News’ Martha MacCallum on why her support for the 1619 Project is misguided at best, that she tried to pull the old switcheroo and shift the debate to the network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election.
“Oh come on, Randi,” MacCallum shot back, calling her guest out for going off topic.
Weingarten claims critical race theory and the 1619 Project “actually teach a factual version of oppression in America,” and was asked about her support Monday during an appearance on “The Story.”
After noting that some states have banned critical race theory in schools, MacCallum asked, “Do you believe that 1619 is a factual program?”
The union head replied that she was a history teacher and that 1619 was the year that the first slave boat came to the United States, adding: “So that’s a point in history that I think we should be teaching.”
MacCallum denounced her reply as a “very simplistic take” on the topic, before laying out precisely what the left is trying to instill in children.
(Video: Fox News)
“The 1619 Project teaches that that’s the true beginning and the founding of our nation. Not 1776,” the Fox News host stated. “And that the reason for the Revolution and the colonization was because people wanted to preserve, colonists wanted to preserve slavery. That the country was founded on the basis of wanting to preserve slavery. But that is not factual. That is not true. In fact, scholars say there’s no evidence that colonists were motivated by that in coming to the United States. So it would be wrong as a historian to want to teach them something that is not true. Because that is the basis that sets up all of these other tenets that lead to teaching kids that we live in a systemically racist country.”
With MacCallum exposing the project so thoroughly, all Weingarten could say was that she has arrived at a different conclusion. It was at this point that she veered wildly off course.
“I would hope that Fox would be just as focused on let’s get rid of the misinformation about what happened in this election. This election —” she began.
“Oh come on, Randi,” MacCallum interrupted. “This is not the topic. I’m not going to talk about that. We’ve talked about that before. That’s a dodge, okay?”
She went on to explain that American children rank 36th in math among developed nations, before asking her guest, “Do you favor teaching students that 1619 is more important than 1776? Do you favor that?”
Weingarten deferred by saying she favored teaching both.
“Do you think that it’s wrong to suggest to children that if they’re white, they belong to an oppressor class and if they’re black, they belong to a victim class?” MacCallum then asked. “Do you have any problem with that?”
Dodging the question, the union president waxed poetically about believing in “lifting up all ethnicities” and “celebrating diversity and looking at people’s lived experience.”
And then tried to take another bite out of the apple on election coverage.
“But if you’re talking about misinformation now, Martha and I hope you are, I really would hope that Fox would really look at what happened in this election and how we can — because every social studies teacher is wrestling with this concern,” she added.
Letting out a loud sigh, MacCallum would slowly explain to Weingarten, “We have a president, President Biden, was elected in 2020. I think that all of that is quite clear. So I’m not sure why you are so concerned with that part, with that particular moment in history. Every election is significant. Nobody is hiding anything under any rocks here.”
She then noted that two people were just elected to a school board in Texas by a large margin because they oppose toxic critical race theory and that Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., just stood up in front of the country and said America is not a racist nation.
“There is racism. We all recognize that,” MacCallum concluded. “But if you raise children in this country believing that it’s a bad country that was founded in wanting to preserve slavery, which is simply not true, then we’ve got a problem in our school system. And apparently, people notice it in that district in Texas and voted in people that they think are going to make sure that that is clear to all the parents.”
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