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President Donald Trump made it clear in a wide-ranging interview on Sunday he is confident that his campaign has more than enough evidence to prove the election was stolen from him.
But, he told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, the problem is getting judges or the U.S. Supreme Court to actually examine it.
“This is a terrible thing that has happened. The mail-in ballots are a disaster,” he said, adding that he knows of people who received multiple ballots from election officials while stating his campaign also knows that dead people voted as well.
“This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud,” said the president, who also noted that he’s heard from several world leaders who have expressed their view that the U.S. election seemed to be “messed up.”
“At 10 o’clock everybody thought it was over” on election night, Trump said, a reference to his commanding leads in several battleground states that eventually went for Democrat Joe Biden because of massive vote fraud.
The president repeated several points officials with his campaign have made now for weeks regarding the evidence they are attempted to get before various courts. They include “hundreds of affidavits” signed under oath by alleged witnesses and whistleblowers who claims range from ballot stuffing and manufacturing votes for Biden to instances where electronic voting machines were manipulated in favor of the former vice president.
“We have so much evidence,” Trump said, much of which was finally presented during a hearing last week before a panel of Republican state lawmakers in Gettysburg.
During testimony, retired U.S. Army Col. Phil Waldron, who spent three decades in the military as an infantry officer and in psychological operations, said a cyber forensics team he is leading that has been working with other, similar teams have discovered significant “voting machine manipulation” since at least 2018.
“The voting systems in the U.S. and in Pennsylvania were built to be manipulated,” Waldron said.
But this and other testimony, thus far, has not been given in any court on behalf of the president’s campaign, Trump said, because judges aren’t allowing cases to proceed.
“It’s very difficult to get a case to the Supreme Court,” he added. “We want to have hearings to show the evidence…we have evidence all over the place.”
Asked by Bartiromo if the president sees a legal path to victory, especially in the next few weeks ahead of Dec. 14, when state electors are constitutionally obligated to cast their presidential votes.
Trump did not sound confident.
“I hope so. It’ll take a brave judge and a brave [state] legislature,” he said, adding that “good lawyers” were working on his campaign’s legal battles but left after being threatened.
“There’s never been anything like this in history, but it all started with the mail-in” ballots, Trump said. “We’re not allowed to put in our proof…We have tremendous proof. We have hundreds and hundreds of affidavits.
“These are people who are putting their lives at risk,” the president continued. “What kind of a country are we living in now where you can vote months in advance?”
Trump also blasted FBI and Justice Department leaders for not investigating the allegations of fraud.
“Missing in action. Can’t tell you where they are,” he responded after Bartiromo asked if there were post-election investigations underway.
The president also discounted the final vote tallies, saying they seem impossible given past voting trends and predictors like bellwether counties, nearly all of which he won.
“Joe Biden did not get 16 million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama. He didn’t beat Obama in the black communities” either, Trump said, despite what final election figures show.
“They stuffed the ballot box. Everybody knows that.”
Bartiromo went on to note that Biden appeared to “magically” outperform Trump in several other ways that were sarcastically noted by J.B. Shurk writing at The Federalist on Friday.
Trump also did not give a timeline for when he thought legal challenges might finally wind up before the Supreme Court, if at all, but was clear that he understood his campaign is operating under a tight schedule.
At one point, Bartiromo also asked the president if he would consider appointing a special counsel to look into election fraud allegations and other anomalies that occurred before and during his presidency, such as the phony Russian collusion scandal.
“I would consider a special prosecutor,” the president said.
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