‘That’s a cop-out!’ Dagen jumps on Trump campaign spox over ‘junk polls’


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Trump campaign spokesman Hogan Gidley dismissed Fox News’ 2020 election polling data and other “junk” polls that show President Donald Trump losing ground to Joe Biden.

The former deputy White House press secretary spoke with Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo on multiple issues on Wednesday before he was asked about polls showing Trump trailing the former vice president.

(Source: Fox Business Network)

“Why is President Trump trailing Joe Biden who has barely been out on campaign trail, and his only presence is really, you know, out of his house?” Fox Business anchor Dagen McDowell asked Gidley on “Mornings with Maria” Wednesday.

“He’s trailing in national polls, he’s trailing in all the swing state polls, and Valerie Jarrett pivots to the here and now because the number one issue for Americans is the coronavirus, it’s not economy, it’s not even race relations,” she added, referring to an interview by Bartiromo with the former senior adviser to President Obama.

In a heated interview this week, a flustered Jarrett repeatedly deflected Bartiromo’s questions about the FBI’s Russia probe by asking why it is relevant at a time so close to a presidential election.

McDowell continued her question to Gidley by touting the latest numbers from a Fox News poll.

“According to the latest Fox News poll, President Trump trails Joe Biden on doing a better job on coronavirus, by 17 points. Why isn’t the president’s message resonating then?” she asked.

“Well, first of all, a lot of those polls are junk,” Gidley replied.

“That’s a cop-out!” McDowell interjected. “You can argue they don’t indicate how the election turns out, that’s fine, but that’s just a cop-out.”

“It’s not a cop-out when the numbers bear out the fact 10% more Democrats are surveyed in these polls than there were in 2016. That’s just sheer mathematics, I can’t change that,” Gidley responded.

“So they are skewed to the left, for sure,” he continued.

“But if we are talking about coronavirus, that’s the beauty of this election — so many times we’re talking in the abstract, what would it look like if somebody were president.  You don’t have to guess what it would look like for pandemic responses under Joe Biden. He was in the office, of the White House for eight years when H1N1 –  swine flu – hit this country,  all he did was shut down testing.”

McDowell jumped in to claim Trump is losing on the virus topic.

“These polls clearly matter to you and the president because he’s changed his position and tone based on that very polling to focus more on the virus because you’re losing on that subject,” she said.

“I would disagree that he changed his tone. He’s been talking about the safety and security of the American people from day one,” Gidley fired back, praising Trump’s “bold, decisive action” that saved American lives.

Gidley went on to contend that voters will see a clear choice come November.

Bartiromo interjected to say there is no reason to choose between issues that matter to voters and that both the coronavirus and the scrutiny of the Obama administration can both be addressed.

“If you want to get reelected, the coronavirus, the American voter is saying, that is the number one issue. So something has to take a priority,” McDowell insisted as the segment came to an end.


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