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Former Republican Congressman Trey Gowdy admitted point-blank Friday that he realistically expects zero prosecutions to emerge from the bombshells in smeared Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn’s long-winded legal case that dropped last week.
“No ma’am,” he bluntly replied when Fox News host Martha MacCallum asked him about the prospect of potential prosecutions. “I was talking to a federal prosecutor on the way over here. But we have got to not only associate accountability with prosecutions,” he said in frustration. “I think being a terrible FBI agent and treating people unfairly, maybe it ought to be a crime, but I don’t think it is a crime.”
Knowing how the Justice Department operates, he’s probably not wrong.
Listen, via FNC’s “The Story with Martha MacCallum” (disable your adblocker if the video doesn’t appear):
However, Gowdy maintained that there must still be accountability, saying, “We have got to not only associate accountability with prosecutions.”
But until this accountability emerges, the American people would be wise to never, ever, ever, ever sit down with the FBI for an interview.
“The takeaway is the next time the FBI says, ‘Hey, we’d like to talk,’ tell them no,” Gowdy said. “Say, ‘When you clean up your act, when you quit trying to get people fired and see what you can get away with, we’ll start treating you like a dispassionate law-enforcement agency. But until then, no thanks, we’re done talking with you.'”
Of course, the advice need not apply to everybody.
“If [the FBI’s behavior toward Flynn] is routine, then why didn’t they apply the same standard to Hillary Clinton?” Gowdy asked earlier during Friday’s discussion.
With Flynn, FBI agents and officials lured him into a perjury trap by convincing him to speak with them without a lawyer for what was described at the time as a casual, off-the-record interview. During that interview, Flynn allegedly told lies that even Vice President Mike Pence now believes were unintentional misstatements.
VP Pence says he’s “deeply troubled” by the revelations of “investigative abuse” targeting Gen Flynn. Now says he’s more inclined than ever to believe the falsehoods Flynn told him were “unintentional and not an attempt to misrepresent facts.” Calls him “an American hero.” pic.twitter.com/PI07t0qJS7
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) April 30, 2020
With former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, FBI agents and officials practically rolled out a welcome mat and donned colorful kid gloves.
Led by disgraced former FBI Director James Comey, the department’s agents allowed Clinton’s former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, to serve as her counsel. This same team gladly allowed Mills’ entire staff to sit in on their interview with Clinton.
And during that interview, the former secretary repeatedly denied being aware of the most basic, essential facts.
“Among the most eye-popping claims Clinton made to the FBI was that she was unfamiliar with the markings on classified documents,” National Review notes.
“Yes, you read that correctly: one of the highest ranking national security officials in the United States government – an official whose day-to-day responsibilities extensively involved classified information; who had secure facilities installed in her two homes (in addition to her office) so she could review classified information in them; and who acknowledged to the FBI that, as secretary of state, she was designated by the president as ‘an Original Classification Authority,’ meaning she had the power to determine what information should be classified and at what level – had the audacity to tell the interviewing agents that she did not know what the different classification symbols in classified documents signified.”
It was clearly a lie — one that was never challenged, let alone prosecuted. And it wasn’t Clinton’s only lie. As Comey himself demonstrated on the very day that he effectively exonerated her, she’d told many lies and committed many shady activists.
The same was not true of Flynn.
“So Flynn’s under investigation in the summer of 2016, a counterintelligence investigation,” Gowdy explained earlier on “The Story.”
“The FBI found nothing. They didn’t find an insufficient amount of evidence, they found no evidence, and they’re about to close this investigation, and then he has the conversation with [then-Russian Ambassador Sergey] Kislyak, so Comey decides to send bureau agents to the White House.”
True, which raises the question of why. Why exactly was that move necessary when the facts already showed that Flynn was as clean as a whistle?
“I mean, that the fundamental question. … If it’s a criminal interview, then why did you treat him so differently than you did Hillary Clinton?” Gowdy asked.
“She had a medium-sized law firm in the room with her. They gave her the questions to her lawyers before they interviewed her, and they most assuredly told her there a consequence to lying — none of which they did for Michael Flynn.”
Of course, Gowdy already knows the answer — it was all part of the Russian collusion delusion hoax and conspiracy theory, i.e., it was part of an effort by Obama-era officials to target the then-newly elected president, Donald Trump.
“They still thought that Donald Trump was colluding with Russia when they went to the interview with Michael Flynn, so I have every expectation they wanted to flip Flynn on the president,” he said.
“The problem was no one with the campaign was colluding with Russia — it wasn’t Flynn, it wasn’t Trump, it wasn’t Papadopoulos. They were wrong about all four of their Crossfire Hurricane targets.”
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