Fox News host Chris Wallace got real testy with Townhall.com editor Katie Pavlich, also a contributor on the network, in a fiery exchange comparing President Trump’s impeachment to Bill Clinton’s impeachment.
At one point, a perturbed Wallace snapped at Pavlich, “Get your facts straight!”
The two were participating in a segment that also featured Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum. The discussion centered on a timely New York Times story on former national security adviser John Bolton’s yet to be released book that allegedly claims President Trump linked a hold on Ukrainian aid to an investigation of Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
Acting as if its true — the president has denied telling Bolton this — the liberal media is running with the story like their hair is on fire, insisting that Bolton must be called as a witness in the Senate impeachment trial.
To no surprise, Wallace seemingly leans with this camp, while Pavlich was arguing against Bolton testifying.
“The Senate is not the House. The House did not come with a complete case,” Pavlich stated. “In every impeachment beforehand, the witnesses that were called had been called in the House before being brought to the Senate.”
“That’s not true,” Wallace interrupted. “They hadn’t all been called in the House. In the Clinton impeachment, they’d been called by the independent counsel.”
“That’s just wrong, Katie,” he would add, after some cross talk.
“The fact is that the whistleblower information was given to the inspector general, who gave it to the Justice Department,” Wallace continued. “The Justice Department decided not to investigate, and that is why it went to the House.”
Set on correcting Pavlich, he pressed on.
“So to say that in the Clinton investigation that these people were interviewed by the House, one, they weren’t, and to say it wasn’t done by the Justice … it wasn’t done by the Justice Department, because the Justice Department refused to carry out the investigation,” Wallace said. “Get your facts straight!”
The aggressive demeanor from Wallace prompted anchor Bret Baier to step in to say, “Okay, let’s tone it down.”
Proving that she can give as good as she gets, Pavlich pushed back.
“The point is that all the information that the grand jury and the Clinton investigation, the witnesses the House wanted to call, that the Justice Department called in the Clinton case, were done before the articles were voted on and put over to the Senate,” she said.
“That is not what has happened here,” Pavlich continued. “The House voted on incomplete information and give it to the Senate, and now they are saying the Senate should call additional witnesses who have not been called before, and who were not part of the House evidence.”
“So we just shouldn’t listen to what John Bolton has to say?” Wallace interjected.
“I’m not taking a side, Chris,” Pavlich countered. “I’m not saying Bolton should or should not testify. I’m simply talking about what senators are saying and they should go with the process.”
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