Kellyanne takes peppering from FOX News’ toughest team, schools Wallace on quality vs quantity

(Fox News video screenshot)

While the demonstrably left-wing establishment media spent much of Tuesday eagerly repeating the Democrat Party’s impeachment talking points to a T, over at Fox News its mix of left-wing and right-wing journalists spent some of it barraging White House counselor Kellyanne Conway with tough questions.

Speaking with FNC’s Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, and Martha MacCallum, the counselor was forced to explain and defend every aspect of the White House’s defense strategy.

Watch the full discussion below:

Conway started the discussion by praising the defense’s performance.

“This was really our first time to argue the facts of the case, and we have a full-throated defense of those facts, which is a very robust offense,” she said. “I believe that [the White House defense team] were very calm and confident in arguing for why we should start the same rules that applied to the Clinton impeachment 21 years ago.”

From the get-go, Wallace, Baier, and MacCallum began peppering her with questions.

“One of the things they keep bringing up is the request for documents, and the argument that [impeachment manager] Adam Schiff just made is that if you had a good motivation for withholding that money from Ukraine for that period of time during that window, why not produce the documents that show that?” MacCallum asked.

“That’s not the way American jurisprudence works for any of us as a defendant, including the president of the United States,” Conway replied. “It’s bad enough in my view that the Democrats want the Senate to fill in all the gaps that they failed to complete when they had their chance as the fact-finding body. That is bad enough. But now to ask the executive branch to do that!?”

She then cited testimony from left-wing legal scholar Jonathan Turley, who last month testified that the Democrats’ case against the president was “woefully inadequate” — in strong part because of their insistence on rushing through the impeachment process.

The relevant portion of his testimony may be heard below:

But now that the GOP-led Senate controls the impeachment process, all of the sudden they’re interested in taking their sweet time, much to Wallace’s apparent approval.

“The Democrats have taken full use of their time, the full hour that they’re allowed to make a lot of their opening argument, and particularly at the end there, I don’t know how much you saw, but Adam Schiff — obviously you disagree with it — making a strong rhetorical argument as to what the president did wrong, why it’s important, and why he needs to be removed from office, not just the documents,” the left-wing FNC personality said.

“And I guess the thing that surprises me a little on the part of the White House lawyers is that oftentimes they’re only taking 20 minutes of their hour. I understand the argument, ‘well, there’s nothing to see here, we don’t need to dignify this,’ but the Democrats are at least using every minute they have to say, ‘Here’s our case.’ And your side isn’t.”

The White House counselor replied by noting that quantity doesn’t equal quality.

“Don’t confuse repetitiveness with relevance,” she said. “Anything times zero still equals zero. If they say a thousand times and what they’re saying is a sugar high for them or a viral moment or is repetitive of what they told us in the House. …  I don’t think it’s a matter of time so much as a substance, and I have said all along that for the president a full and fair trial doesn’t mean quick or protracted, short or long, it means full and fair.”

“The idea that 24 hours for each side to make its case is not sufficient when you are only dealing with two charges, seems to me to be very vacuous,” she added.

Baier, the third journalist on the panel, then cut in to rehash Democrat complaints that the trial rules proposed by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell didn’t address witnesses. However, even Sen. Mitt Romney, a Republican who frequently stands against the president, has dismissed these concerns as just mindless “outrage.”

Conway reiterated this point.

“We respect the process under the Constitution, which means the senators are the jury, they will make the decision motion by motion, issue by issue as to what they want to do. … People talking about witnesses really are proving my point that they have no case. If they want us all to focus on witnesses, which procedurally should not take place anytime soon, because they don’t want you to focus on the substance.”

Even in former President Bill Clinton’s case, witnesses came later in the process, not on day one of the impeachment trial. Of course, back then the media rushed to complain about Republicans being allowed to call witnesses, ironically enough:

The rest of the interview continued in this fashion, with Fox’s journalists asking tough questions, and Conway expeditiously articulating cogent replies.

Meanwhile, as FNC grilled the White House counselor, the media not only parroted the Democrats’ talking points to a T but also:

Praised Democrats for being “very smart,” accused the president’s defense team of not behaving like lawyers, hailed Schiff as an “effective orator,” amplified Democrat complaints that McConnell is engaging in a “cover-up,” and treated Democrat impeachment managers to a softball interview.


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