Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor to President Donald Trump, appeared on “Fox News Sunday” to defend her boss amid the media’s impeachment frenzy and she had no patience for any misrepresentation of the facts.
Host Chris Wallace took care to question the GOP’s concerns about House Democrats conducting their secret impeachment inquisition in the basement of the U.S. Capitol, noting that Republicans have taken similar measures in recent years.
“When the Republicans had control of the House in 2017 and ‘18, they conducted the investigation about Russia and interference in 2016 behind closed door,” Wallace said. “When Republicans did the Benghazi investigation, they conducted it behind closed doors.
He ran a clip of then-House Intelligence Committee chairman Trey Gowdy espousing on the benefits of a closed-door process with no cameras, before asking: “So why is it okay for Republicans … to conduct hearings, depositions, interviews behind closed doors but it’s unacceptable for Democrats?”
“Respectfully, Chris, this is about impeaching a president of United States,” Conway said, as she began to explain the obvious.
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“Benghazi was about four Americans who died,” the Fox News host countered, as he made the case that the loss of life was on par with a partisan attempt to remove a duly elected president.
Conway had to school Wallace on due process and the fact that this right has thus far been denied to the president.
“This is an extraordinary event that should be undertaken in the most extraordinary prudent circumstances and we are nowhere near that,” Conway said of impeachment, which is very different from any other type of congressional hearing.
Turning to the merits of the impeachment inquiry, Wallace noted that three Trump foreign policy officials testified there were “repeated instances” of military aid being used to pressure Ukraine into conducting an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden.
“Isn’t that the definition of a quid pro quo?” he asked.
Conway tried to point out that Ukraine got the aid without launching an investigation, but Wallace continued to cite the testimony from acting Ukraine Ambassador William Taylor and Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.
Conway pushed back by simply noting that this is based on their “interpretation” of events.
“We cannot impeach a president of United States based on an interpretation of any staffer -—Vindman, me, anyone else,” she said. “We impeach presidents of the United States sparingly in this country because it has to be such an extraordinary moment that 67 United States senators say that president who has been democratically elected, and likely will be again, needs to be removed.”
Wallace then shifted gears in trying to get Conway to acknowledge wrongdoing by the president.
“Let’s just say that President Trump did condition giving the military aid, withheld it, and said it will be given out only if you investigate Joe Biden,” Wallace said. “Is that an impeachable offense?”
“Is it a high crime and misdemeanor?” she asked. “I wouldn’t think so, but your giving me a hypothetical.”
Going back to the aid to Ukraine, Wallace pointed to a timeline and stressed that “the president didn’t release the aid until the story was out.”
“You’re trying to make that causation where it may be coincidence,” Conway replied, which prompted Wallace to counter, “I find it an awfully interesting coincidence.”
Wallace tried to insinuate about the “only reason” the aide was released, but Conway stopped him in his tracks.
“Don’t go there,” she told Wallace. “You have no idea that’s why it was held up.”
“You’re suggesting it’s not a coincidence?” he asked.
“I’m suggesting you don’t know that what you were just about to say to be true,” she said.
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