President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani expressed sympathy Saturday on Fox News for the resignation a day earlier of Kurt Volker, the former U.S. envoy for Ukraine, and pushed back on theories that Volker may have been the source of the leaks to the partisan whistleblower.
Volker resigned a day after Giuliani began exposing tweets sent by him earlier in the summer in which he’d urged the former New York City mayor to reach out to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
The purpose of exposing the tweets had not been to hurt Volker but to debunk the misinformation contained in the partisan whistleblower’s complaint against Trump. Included among the misinformation was the claim that Volker and other State Department officials had expressed concerns about the “damage” to national security that Giuliani’s interactions with Ukraine were engendering.
Watch below as Fox News host Judge Jeanine Pirro questions Giuliani about these claims:
(Source: Fox News)
“[But] you say Kurt Volker asked you to meet with an aid to President Zelensky … and you did. Did anyone in the State Department participate in that meeting?” she asked the former NYC mayor during a discussion on her FNC program late Saturday evening.
“No, but people participated with Kurt — he wasn’t alone,” Giuliani replied. “Ambassador [to the European Union Gordon] Sondland also spoke with me about it. And by the way, they should all calm down and relax. No matter what the Obama holdovers in the State Department are doing to them … please don’t get nervous. You didn’t do anything wrong.”
“They asked you to get involved?” the host pressed.
“One hundred percent, and I briefed them all along the way — and they thanked me at the end for doing a good job,” Giuliani replied.
“So you’re acting at the behest of the State Department, and now Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is being subpoenaed to testify before three separate committees … Did he ask you for assistance on this?” Pirro continued.
“No. Kurt Volker, who’s at ambassador level in charge of Ukraine, Gordon Sondland [asked],” Giuliani replied.
“And Kurt Volker set up the meeting? And now he suddenly resigns. Could he be the person that’s leaking the information?” Pirro asked.
“I would seriously doubt it. I feel very sorry for what’s happening with Kurt. Kurt seemed to me to be very professional, very intelligent, very patriotic,” Giuliani replied.
“Why did he resign?” Pirro then asked.
The answer to that question remains unknown.
“Mr. Volker, who told Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday that he was stepping down, offered no public explanation, but a person informed about his decision said he concluded that it was impossible to be effective in his assignment given the developments of recent days,” The New York Times reported on Friday.
A day earlier the partisan whistleblower’s complaint against Trump (viewable below) was made public by the inspector general of the intelligence community:
While the complaint chiefly concerns since-debunked allegations that the president had, during a phone call over the summer, pressured Zelensky to investigate 2020 contender Joe Biden, it does also mention Volker.
“Starting in mid-May, I heard from multiple U.S. officials that they were deeply concerned by what they viewed as Mr. Giuliani’s circumvention of national security decision-making processes to engage with Ukrainian officials and relay messages back and forth between Kyiv and the president,” the complaint reads. “These officials also told me that State Department officials, including Ambassadors Volker and Sondland, had spoken with Mr. Giuliani in an attempt to ‘contain the damage’ to U.S. national security.”
Following the publication of the complaint, Giuliani began exposing those of Volker’s tweets that disprove this narrative:
Why does this text and date render the hearsay so-called whistleblower useless and not credible? If you get even one reason I might recommend you for Law School. Two and it’s LawReview. Answers later. Watch Laura at 10 pm. pic.twitter.com/fN1kOtclaM
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) September 26, 2019
Hint: check date against complaint and it tells you the hearsay complaint is not credible. Illustrates why hearsay is unreliable and proclaiming credibility is the result of bias. Most you can say is I can’t tell.
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) September 26, 2019
Lesson for those who have integrity. Never, like Shiffless, make charges based on pure hearsay. I didn’t when the allegations of Ukraine illegal influence on 2016 election were presented,I got direct witnesses, video tapes and incriminating documents to prove it. Watch and Wait!
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) September 26, 2019
From the sounds of it, Giuliani believes that Volker left over the stress of being entangled in the whole whistleblower non-scandal. But some have hinted that something nefarious may have been afoot. The basis for this theory? Reports that Volker has ties to some very shady people.
“Volker also runs the McCain Institute, which was deeply involved in spreading Russian collusion hoax nonsense throughout government in late 2016 and 2017. The McCain Institute’s David Kramer, for example, gave the dossier to BuzzFeed,” Sean Davis of The Federalist pointed out on Friday.
Volker also runs the McCain Institute, which was deeply involved in spreading Russian collusion hoax nonsense throughout government in late 2016 and 2017. The McCain Institute’s David Kramer, for example, gave the dossier to BuzzFeed. https://t.co/AK654rOJDt
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 27, 2019
And given that the partisan whistleblower’s complaint has been described as the Steele Dossier 2.0, it’s not hard to see why some are suspicious of Volker’s unexplained resignation.
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V. Saxena is a staff writer for BizPac Review with a decade of experience as a professional writer, and a lifetime of experience as an avid news junkie. He holds a degree in computer technology from Purdue University.
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