Fox News host Tucker Carlson may be done debating gun laws on his show.
Taking on Beto O’Rourke’s recent promise that he would strip private citizens of their AR-15s if he is elected president, Carlson invited on Democrat Party pollster Bernard Whitman to debate the issue of whether gun restrictions actually lower violence.
Carlson opened by asking the obvious question: why does the greatest gun violence take place in cities like Chicago and Baltimore, places that have some of the strictest gun laws in the country?
“You have to look at where the guns are coming from,” Whitman said. He went on to argue that the problem is not left-leaning cities like New York City, but rather states with more laid-back gun laws like Indiana. Whitman claims most guns are shipped from these states. The argument completely ignores the fact that gun laws create black markets for guns to be sold.
Carlson was not surprised by the argument, but he also wasn’t buying into it.
“I’ve had this conversation on television for over 25 years, so of course I’ve heard that,” the Fox News host said. “But I’ve never understood why, if all the guns in Chicago come from Indiana, then why doesn’t Indiana have a similar murder rate?”
Ignoring the question, Whitman replied that there need to be stricter federal gun laws to keep guns from shipping over state lines. Whitman claimed internet sales allow guns to be shipped over state lines and this is a “loophole” that needs to be closed.
“The guns are moving from Indiana to Chicago, are moving by car, not by FedEx,” Carlson said. “They’re not ordered on the internet. That’s against the law and the feds don’t do anything about it. It’s not a loophole, it’s unenforced.”
Carlson again pushed Whitman on why the murder rates are so different in places like Indiana than in Chicago and Baltimore.
“There’s a lot more people in Chicago. There’s a lot more people in New York City. That’s why the guns go to where the people are,” Whitman argued. Whitman also makes no mention of the fact that guns save lives, like the recent story of a legal gun-owner who stopped three armed and masked robbers.
“Oh, it’s just population-dense?” Carlson shot back at Whitman, putting a shot through the heart of Whitman’s hollow argument.
“That’s not true. That’s a lie,” Carlson later added, saying population density is not a strong argument for a high murder rate.
“Maybe it’s not the guns,” he continued. “Maybe it’s something else. And you know that that’s true, so why don’t you just say it?”
Source: Fox News
Whitman continued arguing for stricter gun control, while Carlson shot back, “People who break the law tend not to obey the law.”
By the time Whitman name-checked President Donald Trump and called Attorney General William Barr a “shill” for no apparent reason, Carlson was done.
“Ya, ok. He’s a shill. Great. Brad, thank you,” Carlson said.
Speaking directly to his audience, Carlson made his frustrations clear.
“Might be my last gun control debate,” he said. “It’s too stupid. I’m sorry to inflict that on you.”
For anyone who has argued with extremist anti-gun activists who openly ignore facts, Carlson’s frustration is all too easy to understand.
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Zachary Leeman is originally from Maine, he served in the United States Army Reserve for six years. He currently lives in Nashville, Tennessee.
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