Pirro: It’s probably true Epstein’s cellmate ‘beat the hell out of him,’ I knew Tartaglione

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro still has plenty of questions about Jeffrey Epstein’s death.

The host of “Justice with Judge Jeanine” spoke with colleague Tucker Carlson about the medical examiner’s “rush” ruling that the billionaire sex offender died by suicide, and addressed reports about his former cellmate, an ex-cop who is facing the death penalty on federal murder and drug charges.

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The former New York judge and prosecutor criticized the findings by the New York City Medical Examiner that indicate Epstein committed suicide on August 10 – a ruling that Epstein’s own attorneys were “not satisfied” with – during an appearance on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

Pirro contended that the “manner of death” should have been listed in the report, noting the difference between “what actually caused the death” and the way it occurred, such as suicide or homicide.

“Her rush to judgement as to decide that this was a suicide makes no sense. We don’t know why the cameras weren’t working, why everybody was asleep, why they lied. The FBI, the DOJ, the Inspector General, Bureau of Prisons, everybody is doing an investigation,” Pirro said, referring to the many questions that Epstein’s death fueled.

“You’ve got to give me the additional dots that cause me to believe it is one way versus another. And by the way, Tucker, I have tried cases that were listed as suicides and I’ve gotten a homicide conviction,” she said. “So they weren’t suicides, they were intentional murders.”

“And secondly, the breaking of the hyoid bone…that’s classic in a strangulation, not in a hanging,” Pirro added, referring to reports that bones in Epstein’s neck were broken, prompting many to speculate that he did not take his own life.

Pirro told Carlson that it “makes no sense to me as a prosecutor.”

The Fox News host asked her if she had ever seen a medical examiner who “was influenced by political concerns or pressure.”

“Absolutely!” Pirro replied.

“Look, everybody is human. Everybody can be influenced,” she said. “But here is the saving grace … when we get all of the facts, we can decide what happened.”

“People say, ‘oh he tried to kill himself, he definitely committed suicide.’ That’s not true,” Pirro continued, noting that Epstein had said his former cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, had “beat the hell out of him.”

“I know that probably is true because I knew Nicholas Tartaglione. He was a cop when I was a DA in Westchester,” Pirro, who was the first female judge elected in Westchester County, New York, told Carlson.

The 51-year-old former Briarcliffe Manor officer, who was charged in 2016 with the deaths of four men, was reportedly transferred out of Epstein’s cell in the Special Housing Unit of Manhattan’s Metropolitan Correctional Center at some point before he died.

Reports indicated that the two experienced some friction while they were cellmates, and an official noted that Epstein, who was 66, feared the ex-cop.

“Would it be like him to slap this guy around?” Pirro asked as she continued to question Epstein’s suicide ruling.

“Without a doubt, that’s number one. And, number two, the fact that he was very upbeat with his attorneys and said ‘I will see you Sunday,’ all these facts need to be looked into to decide whether or not it is a homicide versus a suicide,” she said, adding that issuing a ruling before the toxicology report on the microscopic tissues is back “makes no sense to me as a litigator who has tried homicide cases.”

Pirro also shut down her critics after Carlson asked his colleague what she makes of those insisting she is “being a conspiracy nut.”

“They haven’t done what I’ve done… personally,” she replied. “I don’t really care what people say. I did this for 30 years. I was a judge and I ran an office with 40,000 cases a year for 12 years. You figure it out. I went to every homicide. I oversaw every one of them.”

Frieda Powers


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