Meghan McCain strayed from her co-hosts’ narrative on “The View” as a discussion on border detention facilities grew heated.
McCain objected to referring to migrant detention centers as “torture facilities,” setting up a battle on “The View” Tuesday as the women slammed the Trump administration.
The co-hosts weighed in on remarks by Justice Department lawyer Sarah Fabian who argued before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals last week that the federal government shouldn’t be required to give detained migrant children soap or toothbrushes in establishing “safe and sanitary” conditions at the facilities.
“Even Charles Manson had soap. Timothy McVeigh had toothpaste,” Joy Behar remarked. “I hate to say it but Trump couldn’t live without hairspray for an hour. He allows this to go on.”
Co-host Sunny Hostin pointed to “a lack of empathy” as the cause, suggesting “this administration doesn’t care” about the conditions.
McCain interjected to point out that although the situation is “horrific” and a “total humanitarian crisis,” she objected to the hyperbole of calling the centers “torture facilities,” adding her personal experience as part of her argument.
“It is horrific and it’s a complete and total humanitarian crisis and we don’t have the infrastructure to deal with it,” McCain said. “I understand it’s a humanitarian crisis. It’s horrific to detain — like you said, people in jail get soap and toothpaste.”
“I know what a torture facility looks like. I’ve been to one,” she continued. “When you have a facility whose specific purpose is to torture people, that is not what’s going on. Yes, it’s inhumane but there’s a big difference between the Hanoi Hilton and what’s happening at the border right now.”
Her opposing stance once again put her in direct fire from her co-hosts, something she experienced just one day before as she veered from their narrative on the rape allegation against President Trump.
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In typical liberal fashion, an indignant Hostin changed that focus of the argument in Tuesday’s debate over detention centers.
“We should be less concerned about what we’re calling them and what is happening inside of them,” she shot back. “I don’t think it matters what we’re calling them. Kids are dying inside of them. We should care about the dead kids that have come out of them.”
“Well, my father couldn’t lift me above his head as a child because of his torture wounds so I do think that hyperbole is important,” McCain countered, referring to her late father Sen. John McCain who was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years before being released in 1973.
“But that was a war and they were grownups,” Behar interrupted. “First of all, it may not have intended to be a torture facility but has turned out to be torturous. That’s number one. Number, two, this was used — separating children was used as a deterrent at the border to keep them from coming in. It hasn’t worked.”
“But I think the hyperbole when you’re saying this is a concentration camp, this is a torture center, it’s when you get people to stop paying attention,” McCain said, referring to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‘s controversial “concentration camp” remarks.
But McCain’s objections to the description and the hyperbole fell on deaf ears as Behar claimed that the Democrat congresswoman’s false claim that detention facilities operated by the U.S. on the southern border are like concentration camps has “put the focus on the situation.”
“It worked for you. It didn’t work for me as a conservative Republican,” McCain shot back, igniting Hostin who shouted, “They should care about the dead kids that came out of those camps!”
Even after co-host Whoopi Goldberg chimed in on the debate, McCain made one last effort to make her point.
“I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. I think it’s horrific. I think we’re all in agreement on that,” she said. “I think there’s a big difference between not being allowed to have soap and toothpaste and being literally tortured for days on end in a torture facility abroad.”