Fox News host Martha MacCallum exposed 2020 Democratic hopeful Julián Castro for his pro-illegal immigrant stance during a Thursday town hall in Tempe, Arizona.
“Is there anyone you wouldn’t let in?” McCallum asked.
The former secretary of Housing and Urban Development under President Barack Obama responded with a word salad that never directly answered the question.
MacCallum noted that Castro believes entering the country illegally should not be a federal crime, before saying that 90 percent of the illegal immigrants apprehended at the border don’t qualify for asylum and, because of catch and release, 90 percent of those who don’t qualify never show up for their court date.
She then hit Castro him with a question he’d never get on CNN.
“So if it’s not a crime to enter the country, is at a crime to not show up for your court date or what point is a crime committed do you believe?” the Fox News host asked.
Castro responded by saying that despite a 1929 law that made illegal entry a criminal offense, up until 2004 the U.S. treated it as a civil violation, and that the problems we see today are because it is now being treated as a criminal offense.
“It was after we started enforcing it is a criminal violation that a lot of the problems that we see today, of this huge backlog of people in the country waiting in limbo, of the separation of little children from their parents and the detention and incarceration of these families,” he said.
Remarkably, with no push back from MacCallum or Fox News colleague Bret Baier, Castro cited a family case management program that he said was implemented under the Obama administration to claim they “knew where they were” and that 98 percent of the illegal aliens returned for their court dates.
As he began advocating for reinstating this program, MacCallum interrupted, “But it doesn’t sound like there isn’t anyone you wouldn’t let in. I mean, is there anyone you wouldn’t let in?
“No, I haven’t said that,” Castro interjected.
“But if it’s not illegal to cross the border illegally, and it’s okay to not show up for — I know you want people to show up for their court date — but you said that’s not where you would draw the line with the law either,” McCallum countered. “So who doesn’t — does everyone get it? Or who doesn’t get in?
Dodging the question, Castro tried to dispel the notion that Democrats support open borders by suggesting the border is secure.
“Let’s think about, and the folks in Arizona know, just like those of us in Texas, we know about the border,” Castro said. “We have at our border 654 miles of fencing. We have thousands of personnel on the border. We have planes, we have helicopters. We have guns. We have security cameras.”
MacCallum interrupted again with a harsh dose of reality, “They’ve got a hundred thousand people crossing the border a month.”
Castro’s response was not to address the invading flood of foreign nationals on our border, but to say we have a court system that is designed “to deal with that,” and it just needs better funding and more judges.
He also refused to call the current situation a crisis, when asked by Baier.
“I think it is a crisis of leadership,” the Democrat said.
“Not like an actual crisis?” Baier pushed back.
“I think the crisis that exists is driven by the conditions in countries like El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala and instead of making it better this president is making it worse,” Castro said.
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