Fox News host Marie Harf called out former congressman Jason Chaffetz in a heated discussion, accusing him of spreading “debunked” conspiracy theories.
The fiery clash erupted Tuesday on Fox News Channel’s “Outnumbered,” following an explosive meeting between President Donald Trump and Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, which was televised from the White House.
With Trump threatening to shut down the government if Democrats do not fund the border wall, Chaffetz began the discussion by saying Democrats supported the migrant caravan and wanted to “shut down ICE.”
“I don’t buy the Democrats on wanting to secure the border. They wanted to shut down ICE, they were encouraging on the caravan,” he said.
Harf interrupted the former Republican representative from Utah.
“That’s not true,” she said. “Neither of those things are true.”
“It is absolutely true!” Chaffetz fired back. “It is 100 percent true! It is human trafficking!”
“Can you let me respond?” Harf asked.
“You were the one that interrupted me!” Chaffetz exclaimed as co-host Harris Faulkner agreed, saying “You interrupted a former congressman and he’s calling you on it.”
But Harf defended herself, responding, “When he says things that aren’t accurate on TV, I’m going to interrupt you.”
“The Democratic caucus does not support shutting down ICE. Individual members talk about it, the caucus does not,” she argued as Chaffetz noted that no Republicans were talking about doing it.
“Second, the Democratic party is not supporting the caravan, that is a conspiracy theory that has been repeatedly debunked online, do not repeat it for our viewers,” she continued.
“Well, I wholeheartedly believe, in my heart –” Chaffetz began to say before Harf interrupted him.
“There’s no evidence. In your heart, you might feel that, there’s no evidence. No evidence, no evidence, none, none,” she said.
Chaffetz maintained that Harf’s points were “just not true” and concluded, “We disagree on that one.”