During a Saturday night interview with David Axelrod on CNN’s “The Axe Files,” former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice discussed the positive aspects of the “Me Too” movement, but was also frank about its potential ramifications, specifically the potential to turn women into “snowflakes.”
Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on the #MeToo movement: "I think that the movement to expose these circumstances is a good thing… I do think we have to be a little bit careful. Let's not turn women into snowflakes." https://t.co/0u2HYBnuyC pic.twitter.com/rCHDGvfyr0
— CNN International (@cnni) January 13, 2018
“I’ve certainly had people suggest that maybe we should just go out, and you know, and situations in which it was somebody more senior than I,” Rice said in response to a question from Axelrod about whether she’s experienced sexual harassment in the workplace. “I’ve never faced an explicit quid pro quo. I’ve never had anyone do anything that I would consider assault. But I don’t know a woman alive who hasn’t had somebody say or do something that was inappropriate at best and aggressive at worst.”
While was Rice supported the movement to “expose these circumstances” as a positive development, she also highlighted the potential of an ever broader movement possibly backfiring on women.
“I think that the movement to expose these circumstances is a good thing. Let’s clear the air about it. I do think we have to be a little bit careful,” said the former secretary of state. “Let’s not turn women into snowflakes. Let’s not infantilize women.”
“And what I really don’t want to happen is that I don’t want it to get to a place that men start to think well maybe it’s better not to have women around. I’ve heard a little bit of that, and it worries me.”
Rice’s “snowflake” comment was quick to bring out the, er, snowflakes on Twitter:
“Let’s not turn women into snowflakes,” said Condoleezza Rice about #MeToo in a @CNN interview. “Let’s not infantilize women.” What an unbelievably irresponsible and stupid thing to say. https://t.co/GcnLH92qXV
— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) January 14, 2018
& It’s actually men who are infantilized. The basic underlying argument is that men are incapable of controlling themselves, so it is the responsibility of women to endure violations against their bodies https://t.co/94ABzwi7ne
— Bree Newsome (@BreeNewsome) January 14, 2018
You’re the one infantilizing women, by suggesting that calling out sexual harassment is being a “snowflake.” FYI, Madam Secretary, it’s an act of courage that often ends up shaming the victim.
Please leave the subject alone if you can’t add anything of value. https://t.co/YWCMlQmJM5
— amiableatheist (@katewillette) January 14, 2018
wait, are you telling me that a former George Bush staffer has regressive views about something?? https://t.co/FgwRxj4k5H
— Matt Ferrari (@MatthewFerrari) January 14, 2018
God forbid we make men take accountability for their actions-that’s all this statement is. A twisted attempt to say it’s women who should be tougher, to just endure the abuse of men-but it all boils back down to it’s the fault of the woman. https://t.co/I84CbqTmNk
— Girls Really Rule. (@girlsreallyrule) January 15, 2018
Any person who believes women “shouldn’t be around” is part of the problem. Inclusion, accountability, equity and justice is only a threat to those who believe we are undeserving of these practices. https://t.co/Jga9GRC2WA
— Sweet_Ci (@CiCi1BeMe) January 14, 2018
This woman is always on the wrong side of history. https://t.co/869SoPWON3
— Lesia Williams (@LesiaWilliams19) January 14, 2018
In case y’all needed a reminder that she’s trash too. https://t.co/tj0opFzEhV
— Genie Lauren (@MoreAndAgain) January 14, 2018
But Rice got plenty of support as well:
You Tell em Condee…My Parents Did Not Give Birth To A Fluff…I Am A Christian…And A Woman …And AN American…Nowhere In That Mix Will
— Dianne Wojcieszek (@diannewnote77) January 15, 2018
So as a nation of laws it’s now okay to say #metoo (man or woman) without proof or trial and ruin someone’s life? It’s now trial by social media and marches? I’m not okay with that and I’m a woman.
— Cricket (@AbsurdWeb) January 15, 2018
Well stated Condi! I have a real problem talking about incidents that happened decades ago. Seems to me if we all brought up our grievances from the past, we all would have plenty of topics to discuss. At some point in time, you move on!
— HowardH (@HH41848213) January 15, 2018
I wish she would run for the presidency. Strong woman.
— Susan Fisher (@SusanFi85534249) January 15, 2018
— GP (@pafpelly) January 15, 2018
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