Ashley Judd offered to have sex with Harvey Weinstein at a later time if he would leave her alone during an encounter 20 years ago.

The actress spoke about the incident to ABC News in her first television interview since going public with her sexual harassment accusations against the Hollywood mogul.

The 49-year-old feminist liberal icon recalled her first meeting with Weinstein two decades ago, saying she knew nothing about prior misconduct from the producer.

“I had no warning … I remember the lurch when I went to the desk and I said, ‘Mr. Weinstein, is he on the patio?’ and they said, ‘No, he’s in his room,’” she told ABC’s Diane Sawyer.

“I was like, ‘Ugh, are you kidding me?’ she said, admitting that she went anyway.  “I had a business appointment. Which is, as that is his pattern of sexual predation, is how he rolled.”

The incident allegedly took place nearly 20 years ago. Judd then revealed the pressure Weinstein began to put on her once she was in the room with him.

“There’s this constant grooming negotiation going on,” she said, describing how Weinstein offered her a massage.

“I thought ‘no’ meant ‘no,’” she continued. “I fought with this volley of ‘nos,’ which he ignored. Who knows? Maybe he heard them as ‘maybe,’ maybe he heard them as ‘yeses,’ maybe they turned him on. I don’t know.”

He then allegedly steered her to a closet where he told her to pick out a suit for him to wear.

“I have totally frozen in my mind the floor plan and where the door was behind me and then eventually where that closet was,” Judd recalled, explaining how she remained standing and cowered in a hallway for nearly seven minutes when Weinstein asked her to come into the bathroom to watch him shower.

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After going back and forth with him as she tried to find a way to escape, Judd said she finally offered him a deal to give her a way out.

“He kept coming at me with all this other stuff, and finally I just said, ‘When I win an Oscar in one of your movies, okay?’” Judd said. “And he was like, ‘Yeah, when you get nominated.’ And I said, ‘No! When I win an Oscar.’ And I fled. I just fled.”

She admitted she may not be completely proud of the move but doesn’t regret her decision either.

“Am I proud of that? I’m of two minds: The part that shames myself says no,” she said firmly. “The part of me that understands the way shame works says, ‘That was absolutely brilliant. Good job, kid. You got out of there. Well done.’”

Judd is one of more than 60 women who have come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct, harassment and even rape against the disgraced movie mogul who was fired from his own company following the accusations. He was also expelled by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

One of the first to come out with her claims, Judd ignited a firestorm as more and more encounters were revealed and an online campaign called, #MeToo, was launched to give a voice to those who had been victims of sexual assault and harassment.

Judd believes if Weinstein is found guilty of rape he “absolutely should go to jail.”

“I believe that there is hope and help for everyone. It has to be the appropriate help. And there has to be a real, profound understanding on the part of the sexual predator that what they were doing was wrong and criminal,” she told ABC.

If given the chance to speak to Weinstein today, Judd said she would tell him, ‘I love you and I understand that you are sick and suffering, and there is help for a guy like you, too, and it’s entirely up to you to get that help.”

That, she explained, is just the kind of person she is.

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“Frankly, it’s an easier way to roll through the world than the alternative,” she said.

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