Mike Isaacson, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who also happens to be the founder of the Antifa group “Smash Racism DC,” made the brutal mistake of appearing on Tucker Carlson Tonight to defend his view that violence is OK as long as it’s against the right people.
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Isaacson began by countering Carlson’s claim that he is against free speech by insisting that, instead, “communities have the right to defend themselves against groups that actively seek to eliminate members of that community.”
“Defend themselves against violence?” asked Tucker.
“Yes, against violence.” Isaacson responded, bringing up the case of Dylann Roof as proof that we can’t “pretend” that violent racists aren’t out there.
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“Are you really a professor, by the way?” asked Carlson, because he just couldn’t help himself at that point.
When asked who should have their free speech “taken away,” Isaacson mentioned alt-right leader Richard Spencer as a “danger to society” who, when he speaks, is “publicly recruiting people to his very violent movement, very violent ideology.”
Carlson wanted to know if even the likes of Spencer “had the right to speak in public,” to which Isaacson responded that his speech shouldn’t be “unopposed.”
Except… “But it’s not opposition,” Tucker pointed out. “You shut people down, you prevent them from speaking, you commit violence against them. I know a number of people … who have been knocked down and beaten by Antifa.”
“So you believe that is justified?”
To which Isaacson said, “Yes … I believe communities have the right to defend themselves against threats to their communities.”
“Against ideas they don’t like,” Carlson said. “But you’re conflating violence with ideas. If I have not raised my hand to strike you, you have no right to strike me … You absolutely have the right to say it’s not OK. What you don’t have a right is to prevent me from saying what I think and you definitely don’t have the right to commit violence against me.”
“You don’t have the right to do that. You have the right to make a counter case,” said Carlson.
Things unraveled from there, as a clearly defeated Isaacson went on to make the absurd comparison of Antifa with “security in a building.”
Watch the video below, via Fox News:
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