Rudy Giuliani made the rounds Sunday in support of Donald Trump following the release of a bombshell video capturing the GOP nominee saying crude things about women, and the former New York City mayor had his work cut out for him with CNN’s Jake Tapper.
Appearing on “State of the Union,” Giuliani said the candidate made “horrible remarks — they’re remarks you certainly don’t want to hear from anyone, much less a presidential candidate.” At the same time, the Republican politician defended Trump, saying “men at times talk like that.”
“I think he made a full and complete apology for it,” Giuliani told Tapper. “He probably is going to do it again tonight.”
Tapper, beside himself with indignation, said some question whether Trump’s apology was “sincere.”
Giuliani responded by saying the billionaire “genuinely feels very sorry” about the incident and that these are not the views he holds today.
“He’s talking about actions that are sexual assault,” the CNN host pressed. “He was 59 or 60 years old when he said it; this isn’t something he said when he was 18 years old. He’s talking about a feeling of entitlement: Because he’s a star, he can go up to women and grab them by the vagina and it’s okay, he won’t get in trouble for it. It’s really offensive on just a basic human level.
“Who did he do that to?”
“I don’t know that he did it to anyone,” Giuliani replied. “This is talk, and gosh almighty, he who hasn’t sinned, throw the first stone here.”
Given the invitation, a saintly Tapper heaved away.
“I will gladly tell you, Mr. Mayor: I have never said that. I have never done that,” the CNN host said. “I’m happy to throw a stone. I don’t know any man — I have been in locker rooms, I have been a member of a fraternity; I’ve never heard any man ever brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it. Never.”
The former mayor was clear that he does not condone the remarks, but again stressed that Trump is a different man today.
“We’ve taken it to an extra degree of what he said. But the fact is that men at times talk like that,” he said. “Not all men, but men do. He was wrong for doing it. I am not justifying it. I believe it’s wrong. I know he believes it’s wrong. I believe this is not the man we’re talking about today.”
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