Nun in trouble for teaching Catholic principles on homosexuality at CATHOLIC school

Sister Jane Dominic Laurel

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Political correctness took an ugly turn last week when a Catholic nun was excoriated for lecturing against same-sex unions at a Catholic high school in North Carolina.

And the outrage didn’t come from the left, but from students and parents.

Sister Jane Dominic Laurel told students that homosexuality is not so much a biological trait as a result of psychological factors often prompted by environmental conditions, like being raised by same-sex parents. She used studies and data to back up her claims, according to Breitbart News.

Sister Laurel, a Nashville Dominican nun with a doctorate in theology from the Pontifical University in Rome, has often lectured on church doctrine, which teaches that homosexuality is a sin. She normally teaches at Aquinas College, but often guest lectures at high schools across the country.

Breitbart News reported:

It is reported Sister Laurel also talked about the greater chance at life success that children have who come from households headed by the child’s biological mother and father in a lifelong commitment of marriage.
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Sister Laurel has reportedly given similar talks a few dozen times all over the country all without incident. It is reported that some of the data she used came from the highly respected Anscombe Bioethics Centre in Great Britain. Most of the nun’s talks are up at her webpage.

Although no complaints were raised by other groups, students and parents from the Charlotte-area school were incensed.

Nearly 1,000 parents met at the school Wednesday to address complaints. The assembly was closed to the public, but social media posts described it as “often heated, with emotions running high on both sides,” the Charlotte Observer reported.

Laurel’s address also prompted a student petition, which said:

“We the students of Charlotte Catholic High School would like to issue a formal complaint regarding Sr. Jane Dominic [Laurel]’s speech,” according to an online petition. “We believe that same sex couples have the ability to raise happy, well-adjusted and successful children … We believe that homosexual couples are capable of monogamy. As rational people, we know that most homosexual people lead healthy, normal and productive lives like their heterosexual counterparts.”

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The nun’s remarks shouldn’t have come as a shock, according to Breitbart.

“Much of what Sister Laurel spoke about comes directly from the Universal Catechism of the Catholic Church and should have been unremarkable given that she was talking at a Catholic high school,” Breitbart reported

Still, the president of college where Laurel teaches apologized for her remarks in an April 4 statement, adding, “Sister Jane Dominic has cancelled her speaking engagements and, at her request, is preparing to begin a sabbatical from teaching at Aquinas College.”

The apology was as much an over-reaction as the anger vented by students and parents.

A Catholic college shouldn’t have to apologize for supporting church doctrine. And if the students and parents don’t like it, they can always join another church.

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136 thoughts on “Nun in trouble for teaching Catholic principles on homosexuality at CATHOLIC school

  1. stephen rowell says:

    Let’s back her up.

  2. stephen rowell says:

    speak put boldly against homosexuality.

    1. EliseR says:

      Yes, speak put, speak put!!

  3. Elaine Summerhill says:

    What you are spouting as nonsense is what the Catholic religion teaches. If one does not agree, they do not need to attend.

    1. JD_Rockefeller says:

      The Teachings of the Catholic Religion have varied greatly over the past 1800 years, Ms. Summerhill.

  4. Margo Epperson says:

    What the hell do these idiot parents expect to hear at a Christian school? This proves my belief that American Catholics are liberal thinkers seeking to fit into the general societal mold.

    1. EliseR says:

      Maybe they expect to hear things like “love thy neighbor.”

      1. auntielib says:

        Apparently “love thy neighbor” is something that frequently falls on deaf ears when one is speaking of homosexual couples, since science has shown that those homosexuals abuse their “partners” at a higher rate than do normal couples, in addition to committing child abuse at a higher rate than do normal couples.

  5. Julia Hobert says:

    These students are beyond help. They have bought into the secular lies.

  6. obadiahlynch says:

    “She used studies and data to back up her claims” LOL. Yeah, just not reputable ones.

    1. auntielib says:

      No, she used reputable ones.
      MULTIPLE studies have shown that homosexual couples have a higher incidence of abuse of their “partner”, of various venereal diseases, and are more apt to commit child abuse than are normal couples.

      1. obadiahlynch says:

        Meh. The abuse rates are roughly the same for heterosexual couples as for straight couples.
        .
        Monogamous gay couples don’t have STDs any more than monogamous straight couples, unless they brought them along with them into the relationship of course.
        .
        I’ve seen nothing reputable that ever even suggested gays abuse kids more than straights; that’s a stretch.

        1. Marylou says:

          You want to believe that so you convince yourself. And that’s not the issue. The issue is that Sister was within her rights at a Catholic school teaching Catholic Doctrine.

          The real coward is her boss.

          1. obadiahlynch says:

            I believe it because it’s true, silly.
            .
            You’re right; the nun was within her rights at a Catholic school to teach Catholic doctrine. The problem is, she had a more sophisticated and informed audience than she expected, and they called her out on her mistaken claims. They apparently believed they were there to learn facts rather than doctrine, and when they got doctrine they got upset.

          2. Marylou says:

            “Sophisticated and informed…” ? Cute. More like brainwashed. You’re saying there are only one set of facts and nothing contrary. If another presents opposing facts, well then those facts are considered spurious?

            Where’s the tolerance? The kids were wrong — even if they disagreed with Sister — and their parents — pretty much morons.

          3. obadiahlynch says:

            Sophisticated and informed enough to know you don’t turn babies gay by adopting them, or whatever.

          4. auntielib says:

            So you claim, yet the point remains – homosexual “couples” commit child abuse at a significantly higher rate than do normal people, obadiahlynch.

            Children of lesbian mothers are nearly 12 times as likely to say they were sexually touched by a parent or adult as those raised in intact, biological families.

          5. auntielib says:

            No, obadiahlynch, child abuse occurs at a higher rate (significantly higher, in fact) among homosexual “couples” than among normal couples. Repeating your same lie over and over again doesn’t change the findings of the published, peer-reviewed studies that are out there.

          6. obadiahlynch says:

            Not really. I’ll give you that you may be using a small-sample study that wasn’t corrected for economic status, etc etc. But no, gays are no more likely to abuse kids than straights are, according to the vast majority of research out there.

          7. auntielib says:

            Your scientific ignorance is impressive, I’ll certainly say that, obadiahlynch. Here, allow me to enlighten you further:

            “Regnerus and his colleagues in the New Family Structures Study (NFSS), working with the research firm Knowledge Networks, screened more than 15,000 Americans between the ages of 18 and 39, and interviewed nearly 3,000 of them. The subjects’ family experiences were sorted into eight categories, ranging from the intact biological family (with the subject’s parents still together at the time of interview), across various family structures involving divorce, remarriage, adoption, and single-parenting, with two categories for subjects raised by mothers or fathers who had same-sex romantic relationships during their childhood.”

            Yeah, a real “small-sample study”, eh obadiahlynch?

            Try again, toots.

          8. obadiahlynch says:

            Sigh. I didn’t know which study you were using till you named it.
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            Read and learn.
            .
            These ‘studies’ come out every now and then; the rightwing blogosphere gloms onto them because of confirmation bias. They always turn out to be deeply flawed, but the blogosphere doesn’t ever get the word, because the blogosphere only reads itself.
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            You’ve got to apply the ‘BS Buzzer’ test to ‘studies’ that come up with findings that are so outside conventional wisdom as to raise eyebrows. “Twelve times more likely to abuse” .. Really? Cause, um, no one I know that’s gay abuses kids.
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            I could explain how one goes about applying the BS Buzzer, but I’m not a professional writer (these days, anyway). So I’ll just let the pros take over.
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            http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/06/a-faulty-gay-parenting-study.html

            http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2012/06/new_family_structures_study_is_gay_parenthood_bad_or_is_gay_marriage_good_.html

            http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110591/regnerus-admits-gay-parenting/

        2. auntielib says:

          Please, enough of your lies, obadiahlynch.

          • Children of lesbian mothers are nearly 12 times as likely to say they were sexually touched by a parent or adult as those raised in intact, biological families.

          • 31% of those raised by lesbian mothers and 25 % raised by homosexual fathers were raped, compared to 8% of those raised in intact, biological families.

          • 90% of children raised in a normative household were heterosexual, whereas 61% raised by a lesbian parent and 71% raised by a homosexual father were not.

          Children raised by same-sex parents are:

          • Two to four times more likely to be on public assistance.

          • More than twice as likely to be unemployed.

          • Twice as likely to have contemplated suicide.

          • More likely to seek treatment for mental illness.

          • More likely to have engaged in unmarried sex.

          • At greater risk of poverty, substance abuse, and criminality.

          1. tpaine76 says:

            They shouldn’t be allowed to adopt – it’s one of their forms of recruitment.

          2. auntielib says:

            That may be true. One thing we DO know is that same-sex couples typically provide an extremely unstable environment for children.

            For example, in the peer-reviewed study I have cited elsewhere in this thread, out of a total of 163 children who said their mothers had had a same-sex relationship sometime during their childhood, only TWO of those children were raised by two women staying together from the child’s first birthday to his or her eighteenth! For children raised by same-sex males, the situation is even more bleak. Out of a total of 73 children who said their fathers had a same-sex relationship at some point, NONE of those children were raised by the two men staying together during the 18 year span.

          3. auntielib says:

            ” it’s one of their forms of recruitment”
            —–
            Peer-reviewed published research seems to support that, yes.

            Professor Walter Schumm of Kansas State University, writing in the peer-reviewed journal Social Science Research, noted a number of studies “concur in observing significantly higher rates of same-sex behavior or identity among children of same-sex versus heterosexual parents.”

          4. tpaine76 says:

            One of the leftist goals – decadence plays a large roll in this. Like much of the younger hetero population – homo’s are drawn by lust more so than any other trait. The difference being that younger hetero’s eventually grow up and follow a more traditional path. Because homo’s are unable to “create” children naturally they are reduced to relationships based on “lust” and this is why their relationships rarely go the distance (with exceptions to the rule). There really is nothing “binding” them together other than a decadent, lustful relationship. When they get bored (as they often do) they are free to move along with no strings attached. With this new modern homo – they want their cake and they want to be able to eat it too. Like you’ve pointed out though – the statistics are against them IF they’re trying to prove they are worthy of both.

          5. auntielib says:

            Speaking of the leftist goals, I have pointed out in a couple of other forums (PETA wants to make Jeffrey Dahmer’s house into a restaurant) how the leftist media plays an ugly (and bigoted) little game. The game the leftist media plays is to ALWAYS mention that it’s a homosexual when the homosexual is a victim (Matthew Shepherd) and NEVER mention that it’s a homosexual when the homosexual is the perp (Jeffrey Dahmer).

          6. obadiahlynch says:

            Yeah, right. I googled the ’12 times more likely’ part, just for giggles. The closest hit was FRC’s website (chuckle) and THEY said 10 times.
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            Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

  7. Marylou says:

    Where was the area Bishop to defend her? Sister’s boss should be fired!!

  8. auntielib says:

    It should also be noted that not only do homosexual “couples” commit child abuse at higher levels than do normal couples, their “marriages” are more likely to end in divorce than are the marriages of normal people.

    For example, a 2006 study of same sex marriages in Norway and Sweden found that “divorce risk levels are considerably higher in same-sex marriages”. Swedish female homosexual couples are more than three times as likely to divorce as normal, heterosexual couples, and Swedish male homosexual couples are 1.35 times more likely to divorce as are normal, heterosexual couples.

    (Andersson, Noack, Seierstad and Weedon-Fekjaer, “The Demographics of Same-Sex Marriages in Norway and Sweden.” Demography, Volume 43 Feb 2006: 79-98.)

  9. Rufus Peebody says:

    With moral legal principles as the basis for general rules of law that minimize coercion, government actions become more predictable.

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