Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson took on conservative radio host Glenn Beck and some uncomfortable topics from the past year during Monday’s debut of the 9 p.m. edition of “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”
Carlson wasted no time gauging Beck’s reaction to Trump’s victory after he had publicly supported his opponent, Sen. Ted Cruz, in the primaries, going as far as declaring that the Texas senator was “anointed by God” to be president.
Beck, founder of The Blaze and Mercury Radio, quickly clarified that he had never said Cruz was “anointed.”
“All of us are called by God to do certain things,” Beck said. “Sometimes those things mean just take a stand.”
Undeterred, Carlson told Beck he “remembered it pretty well,” that Beck had been “praying with and for Cruz” and that God was calling the GOP candidate forward to be the nominee.
“My question’s really simple, and I’m not attacking you,” Carlson said, asking Beck if Trump’s eventual win shook his faith. He also pressed Beck about what God’s message could be now that Trump will soon be running the country, adding that Beck had seen the election in “moral terms” from the outset.
“I can’t speak for God,” Beck laughed, adding that “we are living in critical times” and need to “humble ourselves” moving forward in order to unite the country again.
He criticized half of the country that is “freaking out” over Trump’s election victory and noted these same people were “mocking and ridiculing” Republicans when Sen. John McCain lost to President Obama in 2008.
Carlson circled back to Beck s support of Cruz, bluntly asking why he changed his view on the GOP candidate.
“You really posited Ted Cruz as the good guy in this and then when he lost, I think I heard you say that he was, or maybe concede that he was, in fact, disingenuous and smarmy,” Carlson said, asking Beck to explain his change of heart.
“Wow,” Beck responded, seeming surprised by the question. He laughed and carefully chose his words, explaining that though he had a “different point of view” from Cruz, they are still “good friends” and he would support him if he ran again.
Beck admitted he was “excited to see” the kind of president Trump will be and that, with the election over, it is time to move forward.
“Now he has to be all of our president and the last president, I don’t feel, ever reached out to do that,” he said, adding that Hillary Clinton lost because she was a “horrible and dishonest candidate.”
Carlson pressed Beck on the uncomfortable issue of reported financial and personnel problems at The Blaze and whether they were true or “they are nasty and politically motivated.” Beck did not miss a beat, clarifying that there were some who were “fired” because he “changed directions of the company” but the rumors had it wrong and the company is doing fine.
Beck turned the spotlight on how Americans have become so polarized, turning on each other for different viewpoints, as he brought up the departure of former Fox anchor Megyn Kelly.
“Megyn leaves and now there are people who have, instead of celebrating you coming on the air and a new point of view, they’re saying she’s a traitor for leaving a company,” Beck said as Carlson smiled. “We have to stop thinking of each other as traitors if we go work for someplace else or just even disagree with each other.”
Beck admitted he “wouldn’t wish the fame (of the job) on my worst enemy.”
He added that fame is “corrosive” if you don’t “have perspective,” and pointed to actress Meryl Streep’s condescending anti-Trump rant at Sunday’s Golden Globes ceremony.
“Fame, when people are making money on you, when you are watching yourself everywhere,” Beck said, “if you’re not careful you start to buy it and then you become Meryl Streep.”