Daughter, 14, confronts school board after dad was arrested over sex book: ‘I don’t feel safe’

NH daughterAfter watching police arrest her father at a Gilford, N.H., school board meeting Monday night for violating a two minute speaking rule, his daughter stood before the board to say she didn’t “feel safe” around them.

The controversy began when William Baer rose to complain about the sexually charged content of a book his ninth-grade daughter was assigned to read. The book, “19 Minutes,” includes graphic sexual content that culminates with: “Semen, sticky and hot, pooled on the carpet beneath her.”

When Baer continued to speak, after sitting down, he was escorted out by an officer and charged with disorderly conduct, according to WMUR-TV.

“I just watched my father get arrested because he broke the two minute rule, at a board of education meeting,” 14-year-old Marina Baer said. “This just shows that you resort to force at the first turn of conflict and I am appalled. So I don’t trust you, I haven’t, and I honestly don’t feel safe around you people.”

What happens when Dad protests sexual smut
assigned to his 9th grader will floor you

Stunningly, as Marina began to speak, an unidentified official, unfazed by the possibility that the ninth grader might be traumatized from seeing her father being led away in handcuffs, can be heard on the video requesting that she state her address.

While it’s understandable that this may be normal policy, this was certainly not “normal” circumstances. That a public official can have such a callous attitude toward a child in light of what had just occurred is hard to believe.

See shocking inscription from the book here.

H/T Granite Grok

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  • LaTrinda Johnson

    Wtf, I would burn that book and send it back to school if they give this to my son, they are teaching these kids to have sex, its not the school responsibility, some of us are awesome parents, and can do a hell a lot better than the school

    • Dorothy Arquitt

      This is not teasching SEX, from what was posted from the book this is teaching RAPE. When he tells her to relax then pinns her hand and then covers her mouth. That is RAPE.

      • Shari N Dale Wetherspoon

        No, that;s not teaching rape, it’s teaching them to be turned on by rape. There was no need to go into such pornographic detail to teach rape.

        • Tommy

          I agree with both Shari AND Dorothy….

        • Oh no,not again.

          I also agree with Shari and Dorothy. It is sick what they are programming into our children’s heads.

        • Jack Martin

          Id rather they teach moral right and wrong. Then perhaps they wouldn’t have to teach about rape.

          • Shari N Dale Wetherspoon

            Exactly Jack!!

          • Logical01

            That is what happens when you have someone like obama in power. He is a memeber of the muslim cult. They believe that rape is okay as long as you blame the woman.

      • http://LeeBrightforUSSenate.com kilmarley

        I think Ann Coulter said it best today. “…they are against rape unless it’s committed by a Clinton or Kennedy” The character in the book must be a big donor to the Liberal hypocrites.

    • Lilly

      They are grooming them for Sharia law, wich at this stage in America is a real possibility. Stand up and be counted and stop the rot in your schools, I live in Australia and have been following the news over there and none of it is good. More people should consider home schooling and don’t let the education system get a hold of your kids to let them think this is okay

      • Cris Bessette

        I wasn’t aware Sharia law included promoting reading materials with graphic sex acts. lol

        • RT

          It does……..if you’ll remember when Bin Laden was finally killed he had a large library of pornographic materials and videos in his compound………..

          • Cris Bessette

            Any one that knows the tiniest bit about Sharia law knows it promotes putting black tents on women, which is 180 degrees away from “grooming them for Sharia law” by promoting sex novels.

          • RT

            I’m not an expert in Sharia law by any means but I think there’s a lot more to it than that …………. Keep in mind it’s the same group of people that marry pre-teen girls and rape them. Sometimes causing death………

          • Leslie Nicholson Klatt

            Exactly some people are so blind because they refuse to see!!

          • LeErOy DiCkEnSon

            same people responsible for female genitalia mutilation.

          • nancinger

            And you think that putting a black tent on a woman prevents her from being sexually assaulted, or raped? Sharia law gives men complete power over women and keeps their status slightly above the level of a dog…..

          • retired Don

            this is very true nanci…in Islam/shari’a, women are only property…property to their fathers, property to their oldest brothers if there is no father, property to their husbands…women or lower than dirt in shari’a, as well as ALL Islamic text…where a wife can be raped by her own husband, or a daughter can be sodomized by her own father…because the women property and have to submit to the male “ownership” figure.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            There’s plenty of Bible quotes about how women are chattel and less than men. Does this mean that Christians treat women as such? Certainly not, except for some twisted fundamentalists. Similarly, while there are verses in the Koran that place women lower than men, it doesn’t mean that all Muslims treat women as such. I’d fight tooth and nail against anything resembling Sharia law, but we all know that there is no chance for Sharia to be instituted in the US. Why do you folks constantly bring everything back to your fear of Islam?

          • working4change

            Old testament, not new…. do you see christians killing/raping woman because their faith allows it…. No! But in islam they do.

            Muslims are responsible for 99% of all terrorism in the world and it at WAR with Christans and Jews.

            ” Why do you folks constantly bring everything back to your fear of Islam?” Hmmm because it proves to be corrupt daily for the past 1400 years… Islam has never been at peace with the world. Islam was founded by a murderer leader of a band of raiding thugs, islam was created to control and motivate his thugs to take control everything, hate and KILL any group that does not convert.

            There is no peace Islam, because the book and the faith is by its vary founding and nature at WAR TO CONQUER THE WORLD.

            So nope nothing to see, Islam is peacful, we are just ridding the world of none believers. Nothing to see move along. Barry and Holder will defend us and punish you all. Oh I heard Free Obama phone are being given out at next corner, just sell your soul and get a free phone and free obama money.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            A religion that engages in wholesale slaughter to spread its view of God. A religion that tortures and murders those who believe differently, even if it’s a minor sectarian difference. Sounds pretty bad, doesn’t it? Guess what, that’s a description of Christianity circa 1500, when it was the same age as Islam is now. Ever heard of the Inquisition? The Crusades? I’m no apologist for religious fanatics of any stripe. A high percentage of the the non-state terrorism in the last generation has been perpetrated by Muslims. I’ll stand with anyone condemning that. I’ll also stand against those who would denigrate all believers in a religion because of the wackos who say they’re acting in the name of God. Should we condemn all Christians for the actions of the murderers of doctors who have performed abortions? If you think killing a doctor who performed legal abortions is justified, then guess what, you’re a terrorist too.

          • working4change

            Inquisition… stopped by Christians…. and many guilty were punished.
            Crusades…. hmm taking back control from of isreal from islam. Yes there were other issues but those were between christians much of it was rebelling against corruption of Rome… again we cleaned our mess.

            Islam never did, and is still at it! They still do the mudering and killing and now use our laws of acceptance against us to impose their faith and laws.

            “Christians” are not pro abortion as a faith! It is not justified! We dont murder like in islam we put them in jail when ever possible.

            Lastly I did not denigrate All the followers of islam…. I was talking about the Faith, its founder, and history of behavior that has been unchanged in 1400 years…. yes many would say about 1/3 or more are only islamic by birth aka name only. Same as any faithe. Most in the USA are in the faith out of tradition and FEAR of leaving the faithe. Christians done kill to kerp people in the faithe or use fear. We following a forgiving god and believe sll men must choose their path. We dont force it on them and murder nonbelievers. Yes they did under the Roman Catholics, but they are a minority and shrinking. Fastest growing faithe of the planet is Southern Baptist Church, you should see the numbers in asia.

            When push comes to shove almost every last person will side with their faithe if SHTF and they have to choose sides. People get lazy or drift from faithe, but when SHTF or life gets hard they choose the side they know….

            The families faithe. History does not lie.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            At the end of the Middle Ages, the concept and scope of the Inquisition was significantly expanded in response to the Protestant Reformation and the Catholic Counter-Reformation. Its geographic scope was expanded to other European countries, resulting in the Spanish Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition. Those two countries in particular operated the Inquisition throughout their respective empires (Spanish and Portuguese) in the Americas, Asia, and Africa. Persecution of Jewish and Muslim
            converts to Catholicism was the special concern of the Spanish and
            Portuguese inquisitions because of the belief that they secretly
            practiced their old faiths, resulting in cruel methods of torture to
            extract confessions.

          • Terry Poupart

            THAT WAS 1000 YEARS AGO.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Well, 600 years ago…which happens to be the difference in age between Christianity and Islam. In other words, when Christianity was the age Islam is now, Christians were busy slaughtering infidels and seizing their property….not all Christians, mind you, just as the Islamic terrorists today are a tiny minority of the Muslim population.

          • Hoppyman50

            Two problems with your assertions, one Islam was established in 625 AD and the Quran was compiled, or so it is said, around 825 AD. As for the Christians slaughtering infidels, it wasn’t for not converting to Christianity, it was to remove those who Rome wanted removed from the holy land. It’s claimed to be 10% who believe in Jihad on infidels and 0% in all other religions. Your assertion on Christian dates back to the 14th century, the issue at hand is now in the 21st.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            ??? Why is that a problem with my assertions? You just confirmed my timeline rather than contradicting it. As to your statement “It’s claimed to be 10% who believe in Jihad on infidels and 0% in all other religions”, I THINK what you’re trying to say is that you believe that 10% of Muslims believe in Jihad. If that were true (and I have no idea where you got that figure), would you then condemn the other 90% for following the same religion though they have no such belief in Jihad? The word Jihad is also interpreted differently by different groups. Wikipedia says “There are two commonly accepted meanings of jihad: an inner spiritual struggle and an outer physical struggle. The “greater jihad” is the inner struggle by a believer to fulfill his religious duties. This non-violent meaning is stressed by both Muslim and non-Muslim authors. It sounds like you’re just speaking of the Crusades when you speak of “slaughtering infidels”. This leaves out the many murders and mass torture connected with the Inquisition and the wars fought over the schism between Catholic and Protestant ideologies. There’s plenty of blood on the hands of Christians, which doesn’t excuse the blood on the hands of violent Muslims. It does, however, make a clear case for not condemning a religion for the actions of a few zealots.

          • Hoppyman50

            “Well, 600 years ago…which happens to be the difference in age between Christianity and Islam.” It wasn’t 600 years ago, it was over 1300 years ago, at know time did Christians “slaughter” infidels in what the Quran calls for in conversion from to Islam.

            The polls was taken on those who hold a radical view on jihad. Where were you on this one? Here’s a couple for you to chew on:

            http://www.thebereancall.org/node/7049

            “1 in 10 of those Muslims support suicide bombings to “defend their faith.” (AsRobert Spencer notes, “that’s just those who are willing to tell a pollster something that they would know the government would not likely be happy to hear.”)

            So, that’s 19 million Muslims for violent jihad in “moderate” Indonesia alone.

            Another survey published over the summer underscores the myth of “moderate” Muslim Indonesia. The Washington Times editorialized:”

            These are not isolated cases, “would you then condemn the other 90%” No but they would, why do you suppose the sectarian problems with them? Or haven’t you seen Muslim killing Muslim?

            I speak of current Jihad, while your apologetic muslim position disregards the current on slaughter of murders and torture when you write this “This leaves out the many murders and mass torture connected with the Inquisition” This is 2014 why do you run too 1184 for your current comparison? It was in the 12th century and your ignorant assertion of “Catholic and Protestant ideologies” shows your ignorance of history, it was the Roman church not the protestants who did this, or were you not aware of this?

          • MrSwingGuitar

            You still don’t get it…read what I wrote one more time…what you quoted as the first line of your response. If you STILL don’t understand what I said, I give up, you just lack the comprehension skills necessary to have an informed discussion. As to your “scientific” poll, the “Berean Call” was started to promulgate the views of Dave Hunt…here’s a bit about him “Hunt was a strict Biblical Creationist – refutations of evolution were a frequent topic of his radio programs, Search the Scriptures Daily and According to God’s Word. Hunt believed occult or pagan influences are pervasive in modern culture – this includes evolution, as well as all forms of psychology, some forms of entertainment, all forms of science-fiction or fantasy[citation needed] – especially Harry Potter – yoga, some forms of medicine, environmental concern or conservation and much of public education. His book Occult Invasion is dedicated to this area, while several other books mention it in part.”

            Now, personally, I wouldn’t trust someone with an agenda like that to conduct an unbiased poll, you’re welcome to differ with me, of course.

          • Hoppyman50

            Your assertion of the years is closer to 825, yet you still make claims of atrocities that are separated by a thousand years and attempt to find similarities between the muslims and Christians, why? Do you even understand Christian doctrine, or have you even read any portion of the Quran?

            As for this one..lol “As to your “scientific” poll” all polls are done in the same fashion, sampling and percentage. Regardless to your bias to Dave Hunt and God forbid he’s a creationist, so your an evolutionist, more power to you. I believe God created the world an if you check into “science” it may become more evident that God is actually real.

            Your prejudice is evident, yet you know evolution remains a theory and not fact. So if one holds this belief his poll along with the other I sent you is discarded, because?

            http://www.geeksugar.com/Physics-Professor-Learns-His-Big-Bang-Theory-Correct-34384907

            You failed to acknowledge that your assertion of both the catholics and protestants were to blame was groundless, yet you claim my comprehension skills lack. I’m sure you’re aware that Martin Luther was born in 1483, almost 200+ years before his birth and he is the father of the protest movement against the catholic movement. This was a bit late to be involved in the, as you stated, “Inquisition and the wars fought over the schism between Catholic and Protestant ideologies” in your words. You are ignorant on the history of Christianity, yet you attempt to lump Christians with Muslim’s, in the same boat. Your hatred is misdirected, go to Rome and cast your dispersions on them. The poll Mr. Hunt commissioned, required to ask a question, if they believed in jihad, this was not as you claimed a religious struggle, it is strapping on a bomb, killing those who won’t conform to the religious edicts. How about the 1 out of 10 poll? bias? Would you like more? You seem to miss the point, 10 % are radical, they see no trouble to have sectarian wars, they see no problem to enslave none believers, they see no problem in making women possessions, they see no problem stoning gays for being gay, yet you still go after Christians. Don’t go the Westboro baptist as your example of Christians, seeing they are 65 people out of 2.1 billion, not a great example.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            “you claim my comprehension skills lack. I’m sure you’re aware that
            Martin Luther was born in 1483, almost 200+ years before his birth”. I have to admit that I had no idea that Martin Luther was born 200 years before he was born. Thanks for enlightening me.

          • Hoppyman50

            You know what I was saying, the assertion of the inquisition took place before his birth 200 plus years. lol The problem is you had no idea. Wow you seem to have just dropped into the shighter on that one. Great come back, read the entire response, if you don’t, don’t respond.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            The Inquisition was at its height in the 16th century, during Luther’s lifetime, for what it’s worth. It was, of course, a Catholic institution, and had nothing to do with him. What’s your point?The Muslim haters on here don’t make any distinction between Shiites and Sunnis, they just hate everyone Muslim. The Protestants killed plenty of people for religious reasons later on (in Ireland, for example). All of which still has NOTHING to do with what I was trying to get across to you, which is that condemning a billion plus people for their religion because a few thousand people who share that religion are terrorists is absurd. I believe the word you meant to use was “aspersions”, as “cast your dispersions” means nothing. I’m not expressing hatred towards anyone, it’s the folks on here who claim that Islam is a “gutter religion” that are full of hate. As to polling, how you ask the questions totally skews the answers you’re likely to get, which is why both parties in this country can show you polls that show that the majority of the populace supports THEIR viewpoint. Asking an avowedly unscientific group (Berean Call) to conduct a scientific poll is absurd. I have no problem if they or you choose to believe something on faith, as long as they don’t then present it as fact. Asking them to conduct a poll about Islam is like asking Alex Jones to conduct a poll about Benghazi…you’re not going to get reliable results. When you then use those results to fuel religious hatred, you’re really asking for trouble. I stated before that I have lots of trouble with Islamic fundamentalists and how some of them treat women. I also have lots of trouble with Christian fundamentalists and how some of them treat women. Okay, I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt and answered your questions above. Somehow I doubt you’re open minded enough to actually be able to take it in, but I hope I’m wrong in this.

          • Kevin Yates

            You quote wikipedia? Wow, and you didn’t know I just went in and changed that prior to your quote becoming a convenient fact…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Wikipedia isn’t flawless, though lies tend to get removed pretty fast…do you dispute the quote? I’ll be happy to find other references, though of course if you’re determined to not believe something, all the proof in the world won’t change your mind.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            six hundred years ago was 1414. Christianity was founded by Jesus Christ in 30 ad. The battle between Muslim and Catholic never got finished, so here we are again several hundred years later and we are going to have to mop up again. BTW

            I am Catholic.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Never would have guessed you were Catholic with a name like that…”The battle between Muslim and Catholic never got finished”, you say. Do you mean that neither side murdered everyone on the other side? And that makes you unhappy?? I have no idea why you bothered to bring up the indisputable fact that 600 years ago was 1414, but at least it’s something we can agree on.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            i guess you are failry smart, i was wondering with a name like mr swing guitar. your name reminds me of a song i used to sing when i was a kid and here are the words.

            “Swinging On A Star”

            Would you like to swing on a star?

            Carry moonbeams home in a jar?

            And be better off than you are?

            Or would you rather be a mule?

            A mule is an animal with long, funny ears

            He kicks up at anything he hears

            His back is brawny and his brain is weak

            He’s just plain stupid with a stubborn streak

            And, by the way, if you hate to go to school

            You may grow up to be a mule

            Or would you like to swing on a star?

            Carry moonbeams home in a jar?

            And be better off than you are?

            Or would you rather be a pig?

            A pig is an animal with dirt on his face

            His shoes are a terrible disgrace

            He’s got no manners when he eats his food

            He’s fat and lazy and extremely rude

            But if you don’t care a feather or a fig

            You may grow up to be a pig

            [instrumental-first 3 lines of chorus]

            Or would you rather be a fish?

            A fish won’t do anything but swim in a brook

            He can’t write his name or read a book

            To fool all the people is his only thought

            Though he’s slippery, he still gets caught

            But then if that sort of life is what you wish

            You may grow up to be a fish

            And all the monkeys aren’t in a zoo

            Every day you meet quite a few

            So you see, it’s all up to you

            You can be better than you are

            You could be swingin’ on a star

          • Tim Green

            Really ..are you drunk…or smoking crack?

          • retired Don

            It wasn’t Christians that performed the crusades..it was the Catholics…whose Jesuit order declares, just like the Muslims, they will dominate the world…and they tried that…primarily because during the crusades, the Muslims were trying to dominate the world, and people did not have to go with political correctness…

          • reggie98ud

            All Christian faiths started as what is now called the Roman Catholic Church. While the Catholic Church as remained seeded in Rome (more specifically the Vatican) the Protestant Reformation led to the many different “variations” of Christians that we have today. At the time of the Crusades, the Reformation had not occured so technically Christians (following the Roman Catholic Pope) led the Crusades.

          • retired Don

            Jesus Christ wasnt a catholic, the apostle weren’t catholic, not even Peter…it was a fraud that the catholics want everyone to think…but irregardless, the fact is that the crusades started to oust non-catholic believing people out of europe…all religions that were not believing the same as the pope, were targets…you can say that technically the crusades were involving christians, but their true faith was in the pope and the vatican because, much like islam, in those days, for the most part, if you weren’t catholic you would die…take Ireland now for instance…that was close to how it was then…

          • Hoppyman50

            You stand corrected, the church “the body of Christ” was started in the 1st century by St Paul, the apostle to the gentiles. The burning of Rome occurred at 64 AD, this began he persecution of Christians through out the Roman empire. The Greek orthodox claim to be the first Christian church and most likely are, dating to the 1st century, yet until Constantine, Roman emperor in 312, the Roman Church did not exist as it is known today.

          • reggie98ud

            Christians have been around since Jesus. There is some debate among scholars as to the realationship between the Greek Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churchesin the first couple centuries AD. Depending on who you favor all were part of the “Christian Movement” started by the Apostles of Jesus and split apart because of the politics and power of the Roman Empire. Because most of the early Church in the Roman Empire had to meet in secret due to Roman persecution, there is little documentation from the time, most everything was handed down verbally or in the case of the Gospels, were inspired by
            God. While there aren’t document from the Roman Christians before Constantine, they were there, just in hiding and these Christians became what is now the Roman Catholic Church.

          • Hoppyman50

            St Paul is the “apostle of the gentiles, he was also a Roman citizen, this is why he went before the Roman court and had the right to do so. This was well know, as for your assertion of the church beginning with Christ earthly ministry. is not correct, He came to bring in the new covenant with Israel and God, he as most in the Catholic church know that He was the Lamb of God. The lamb would be sacrificed each year in the passover season.
            As for the Greek and the Catholics, they are one and the same, the break up was due to their disagreement on tradition. The oldest church still in existence is the body of Christ, purely spiritual not built with mans hands.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            You’re wasting your time trying to get people like him to actually use their brains. History is meaningless to such folks, they only believe their indoctrination.

          • David Bowen BladeSmith

            Mr Swing, you are comparing 1500′s Christians to 2014 Muslims. They have not evolved, and have no place in our society as long as they still embrace their 1500′s ideology. They are barbarians.

          • Hoppyman50

            Well put.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I cant get the link to show here, but check out a youtube video (Hindu Prayer Interrupted In Senate By Christians) of a Hindu priest attempting to lead a prayer in the Senate, where some of the VERY tolerant Christians in attendance attempt to shout him down repeatedly. Now, Hindus tend to have no problem with coexisting with Christians, and yet some Christians can’t even allow a minute’s prayer by anyone whose faith is different than theirs…of course, these yahoos likely don’t even realize that Islam and Hinduism are totally different things.

          • linreis

            hindu prayer…the topic is islam…what is your point? that Christians cannot have an open opinion, that we are to remain silent of insult? we have done that, and now the country is on the verge of accepting sharia laws…no more.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            In what way is a Hindu priest offering a prayer before the Senate an insult to Christians? To assert that “the country is on the verge of accepting sharia laws” is an opinion born of ignorance and bigotry.

          • linreis

            ignorance: is that your excuse, or is it denial…I didn’t say Hinduism prayer is an insult, my statement is very encompassing and broadened to include the past two generations of ‘tolerance’ by Christians. resort to name calling if you want, but check out the events happening in Wisconsin. check out the immigration of islamists in France, and England…is the US far behind? open your eyes, or stay ” tolerant” right up to the time of sharia law takes precedence over your own family…whatever.

          • Kathy Perilloux

            You mean their 630 AD Muslim ideology.
            Raising hell since 630 AD… the seed of Ishmael.

          • watcherofolde

            Hey buddy, do you live in the 1500′s or NOW. It is what’s going on NOW that is affecting us.And the fanatics now are muslims. Maybe you should go to Nigeria and check it out.

          • phred01

            it’s Bush’s fault.

          • Earthy Mom

            You need to go back a tad further in that history sir. Christians were fighting to free themselves from the likes of Muslims and to stop themselves from being slaughtered for their faith.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            The Arab world was the dominant politcal power for hundreds of years in the middle ages. The west had fallen into corruption and ignorance, and was easy picking for the Muslims. As to “being slaughtered for their faith”, you’re correct that Christians died in religious wars, as did Muslims. In Spain, which is a country I DO know a bit about, the Moors were predominant for hundreds of years, but they were tolerant of other faiths. When the Christians retook control there, the Inquisition came to the fore and all who weren’t Christian, or who were suspected of faking their Christianity, were subject to torture and death. You understand, I’m NOT excusing brutality from any group. I’m just asking people to actually learn a bit of history.

          • Tim Green

            Lets get this in prospective..This is Not History! This is Now! Your punk ass is nothing more than a wanna be scapegoat for rapists and murders…in the name of islam..are you just retarded or stupid…there is a difference like islam and Christianity

          • MrSwingGuitar

            “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”-George Santayana.
            So, when you made the contrast between retarded and stupid….which one is supposed to be Islam and which is Christianity? As it happens, I’m both well informed and intelligent (as well as being able to write in comprehensible sentences). Now, I certainly don’t maintain that all who disagree with my ideas are ignorant fools, merely most of the people who post on this site. I make no apology for rapists and murderers of any religion. There are many things in fundamentalist Islam that I find very unpleasant. Mind you, I could say the same about fundamentalist religions of many stripes, including Christianity. The inequities between men and women in the worst versions of Islam are echoed in only slightly less vile ways by the worst versions of Christianity. Mind you, the best of either of these religions are far far different from the repugnant versions.

          • phred01

            your ignorance is showing. You don’t even know a true Christian. All you have is your comic books, and hear say.

          • capers2

            Mr.SwingGuitar is sounding more and more like a JTRIG operative than anything else…

          • retired Don

            I agree…regardless if true christians were involved in the crusdaes or not, the fact is that the RCC decided to stop a terrorist monster…islam, from taking over the world.

          • Terry Poupart

            Hey MrSwingGuitar. Was your post supposed to be some kind of a sick joke? There have been less than 5 abortionists killed by Christians EVER and EVERY Christian denomination immediately denounced this because there is nothing in Christen doctrine to justify murder or excuse it, even though in reality an abortionist is a murderer rather than simply someone of another religion. Not so with Islamic terrorists. So you are saying that we should allow Muslims to continue to kill, rape and pillage for another 1000 years because of something a small number of Christians did 1000 years ago? Is that
            the best you can do? We are not talking about 5 or 6 whacko’s here. We are talking about entire Islamic Nations
            and literally millions of devoted Muslims that will kill you and me in a heartbeat for the crime of being an infidel. Give me a break. Please don’t kill me for making this post.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            There are plenty of Biblical doctrines justifying killing. Jesus didn’t go in for that sort of teaching, but a great number of fundamentalist “Christians” take their hate filled doctrines from the Old Testament and ignore Jesus’ teachings of love and forgiveness. You are also incorrect in alleging that there are “millions of devoted Muslims that will kill you and me in a heartbeat for the crime of being an infidel.” There ARE extremists that feel that way, possibly even thousands of them. In any Middle Eastern society, they are a tiny minority of the population. There are a far larger number of Muslims in the middle east who fear and despise the way they’ve been treated by the west for the last hundred years. Say that Iran had deposed President Eisenhower, set up a puppet government in Washington in the 1950s, with a brutal secret police that tortured any dissidents. My guess is that

            you and a large percentage of the American public would hate them for that. Well, buddy, that’s exactly what the US did TO Iran then. In order to protect the oil companies investments, we put the Shah in power and kicked out the democratically elected president…we’re still paying for that one.

          • phred01

            You cannot equate all of christianity for that. Those that refused were also persecuted and killed.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I’m sorry..what are you trying to say?

          • phred01

            I do agree with you on this. During the inquisition, not all Christians took part in that. Those that refused were consider heretical and suffered with the persecuted. A true Christian follows Christ and adheres to the teachings of Christ. The trouble is some so called Christians uses the whole Bible to justify there bigotry and hate. A Christian follows the New Testament, and uses the Old Testament as history and prophesy.

          • LeErOy DiCkEnSon

            but this is 2014 not 1500…. ummm times are different.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            If you’re responding to my comments about the Inquisition, you’re correct, it’s 600 years since it’s heyday. It certainly isn’t that long since “Christians” slaughtered Native Americans and Africans with impunity because they were less than human to them. Within living memory of some of our older citizens, black men in the US were still getting lynched by “good Christians” on the flimsiest of pretexts. I’m in no way suggesting that all, or a majority, or even a large minority of people took part in this carnage. It was a small group of hate filled killers, much the same as it’s a small group of hate filled killers behind most of the terrorist acts perpetrated by Muslims today. Now, those who are an occupying force in a foreign country may be attacked by those motivated not by religious fervor, but by patriotism. Imagine if you will that China decides that the next president is a war criminal and invades our shores and deposes him/her, setting up a puppet government instead. Americans resisting this would likely be considered heroes by most of the folks posting here, yet their actions would be very much akin to the resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan. People, no matter how they feel about their government, are generally unhappy with a foreign power deciding what’s good for them.

          • capers2

            You have a really vivid imagination or are attempting to rewrite history faster than a roadrunner. There was not even a “large minority” of people taking part in carnage. It’s the liberal view (much like taking thousands of pictures of an event, then airing it over MSM, when it was attended by only a few dozen in an attempt to make it look like MILLIONS of people attended). You are failing at Alinsky’s playbook at marginalization. The vast, majority of people were not involved or associated in these events. When you place them under a microscope, you attempt to make them blown out of proportion and larger than life.

            Why don’t you cite DOJ and Dept of Criminal Justice stats that show although blacks comprise 14% of the entire populace, nearly 50% of all violent crime (including murder) is committed by black, males (7% of the entire populace) and these crimes are committed against Caucasians. On the other hand, 3% of all violent crime (committed by whites including murder) is against the black populace.

            What an inconvenient truth…That reeks of reverse racism of the utmost magnitude…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            ??? Your comments above seem to have no relation whatsoever to what I said. Feel free to rave on whatever subject you wish, but don’t link to my comments unless you’re actually responding to what I’m talking about..

          • capers2

            Jtrig operative and master of circular logic…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Have no idea what “jtrig” is, but my guess is that’s it’s some phantom that Alex Jones or some other idiot harps on, as that sort of thing seems to be all that you folks pay any attention to.
            It’s certainly clear that paranoid fantasies are driving you…you seemingly can’t abide anyone with views differing from yours.

          • capers2

            Who the eff is Alex Jones? When someone has no other reason to be here (other than to disrupt the normal flow of commentary) and troll simply because they have a differing opinions you have to wonder ; exactly why they’re here in the first place; They begin to stick out like a red-faced, young teen with a hard-on… Why don’t you take the time to google jtrig. If you’re not then you’re a bi-polar who has obviously run out of medication, has too much time on your hands and has forgotten your link to the huff post…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Alex Jones is a media personality who is even more paranoid than you, pardon my confusion equating the two of you. So, the “normal flow of commentary” is bigoted right wingers patting each other on their backs for their supposed patriotism? Can’t stand to hear differing opinions? I thought that was what the US was all about; allowing all points of view to be heard. I personally enjoy hearing differing views…it’s how I stay well informed. This particular website almost always slants their stories heavily, but that doesn’t mean that there can’t be some actual truth buried in the stories. So, why is it that you find it necessary to make juvenile attacks rather than responding with actual arguments based on data?

          • capers2

            Yawn…You’ve seen plenty of “data”. You continue to live in your hamster wheel..

          • capers2

            Even true Christians were slaughtered during the “Inquisition” (btw the “Inquisition” was NOT Christianity).

          • MrSwingGuitar

            An odd but interesting perspective, capers2. While the spirit of the Inquisition was very far from Christian, those administering it were, in fact, officers of the church. “Inquisition: a group of institutions within the judicial system of the Roman Catholic Church whose aim is to combat heresy.”

          • capers2

            Do you really believe a Church body or building designates who is or is not a Christian? Where was this taught in scripture? The RCC is not the appointed church of Christ. The body of Christ is comprised of all followers who do the will of the Father through Jesus, the Son. That is exactly why the RCC instituted the “Inquisition”. The RCC, by it’s very existence, is the penultimate in heresy as are modern churches that build massive structures and empires yet do not do the will of the Father.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            At the time of the Inquisition’s greatest power, the Catholics were pretty much the only game in town as far as Christian churches. Do I think they (or any other denominations for that matter) really express Jesus’ teachings? No, I don’t. If, on the other hand, you want to excuse all abuses and excesses by those who call themselves Christian as not representative of the real heart of the faith, you should also do the same for other religions such as Islam. Those on this page who condemn all Muslims because of the actions of a small percentage of that faith, and yet claim that they should be excused for any responsibility for the crimes committed in Jesus’ name are hypocrites.

          • capers2

            By your own (liberal) reasoning we should visit perhaps your entire family tree…and for any crime any of your ancestors have committed, you should be held personally accountable (as should your forebears). And should you not accept that full responsibility then you’re a hypocrite. That is the presumptuousness of your argument. If you’re not religious, then any atrocities , committed by Attila the Hun (or any other despot), should be directly attributable and accountable to you. Per Muslims How many do you see coming out of the woodwork and personally denouncing acts of terrorism committed by Jihadists? The silence is defeaning….

          • MrSwingGuitar

            You seem to have very poor comprehension skills…read what I wrote again. What I said was that, UNLESS you’re willing to condemn all Christians for the actions of a small minority, you shouldn’t condemn all of Islam for the actions of a small minority…can’t really say it any simpler than that. If you still don’t get it, well, you have my pity. As to Muslims denouncing acts of terrorism, there’s plenty of that…if you choose not to pay attention, it’s not my fault.

          • Earthy Mom

            I have been following your posts and comments for the last few days and I have but one question for you. If you are so so sure of yourself and how it is only a minority of Muslims that are violent killers and you are so bound and determined to defend them why not just move there? Then you can see just what a large “minority” there is who are willing to kill, rape and abuse.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Okay, first of all, where is “there”? Second, should I be saying to all those who claim that the president is a traitor/Kenyan/Muslim/whatever that if they don’t like it here, they should move “there”? This sort of pitiful argument is the last refuge of people with no factual evidence. Sorry, but you strike out.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            i believe that we cannot know what transpired in 1500 to definitively comment as if we were the Lord God Almighty.

            Several years ago you were very short tempered, angry, impatient, and irritable.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Hmmm….everyone who actually KNOWS me thinks of me as even tempered and happy. I don’t believe I know you at all, so I have no idea how you would have any idea what my personality might be. It’s certainly true that history isn’t always the complete truth. In this case, there’s lots of evidence of the crimes of the Inquisition….all of which is somewhat beside the point. The point I was trying to make was that people of all religious faiths have been guilty of heinous crimes, so there’s no point in pointing the finger at Islam alone.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            good. since no body alive today (black, white, red, brown or yellow) knows anybody (yellow, red, brown black or white) who was either a slave, innocent who was killed, slave owner, crusade participant or victim, and no one alive today truthfully can ever know what happened, lets just stick with evidence of killings that have happened this century. Islam alone has perpetrated 22,362 incidents of terrorism and of killing innocent people since 9/11/2001.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I think what you mean is that proponents of Islam have perpetrated these acts…a religion cannot kill; people can. Now, if we figure the number of civilian deaths caused by allied (and almost 100% Christian) forces in Iraq alone during that time period, it far outnumbers any tally of Islamic terrorist deaths. Oh, you say, that’s different! Is it? If your mother, your brother, your child were killed by someone despite having done nothing, I’d wager you’d consider it a terrorist act. Why WERE we in Iraq? The putative reasons were that SOMEHOW Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11….and that he had weapons of mass destruction. Both of these claims were proven baseless before the US invaded. Now, Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator, no argument about that. There are many such in the world today. Oddly we only seem to interfere in countries that have “strategic importance” (i.e. huge oil reserves). The current Iraqi government is arguably just as venal and corrupt as the former one, and hundreds of thousands of people have died.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            i said several years ago the people who know you would have said …

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I quote you exactly “Several years ago you were very short tempered, angry, impatient, and irritable.” It’s very difficult to get me angry, but accusing me of something and then claiming you never said it will eventually get me there…

          • AmericanFaith

            That was tyranny, not Christianity…that made the CATHOLIC religion to do this…and the vatican is still a tyrannous government…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Right, and of course Catholics aren’t Christians??? The Inquisition was at it’s height in the early 16th century, before there WERE any Protestants. And, when the Protestants DID come to power in various European countries, they then persecuted the Catholics. This doesn’t make Christians any worse than any other big religion, nor any better.

          • Logical01

            Again you display a fractured fairytale version of history. The Crusades were brought about after more than 300 YEARS of Christians being slaughtered by muslim animals. The Crusades were nothing more than a defensive action to prevent the deaths, rapes, and tortures of innocent Christians but the perverse cult that you seem to admire so much. You say your no apologist and I agree. You are a cheerleader for the iislamic death cult. You also display a disdain for Christianity. Given those two poins, I would peg you as having voted for obama in both elections simply because he was the democrat. I would also be willing to bet that you seldom research the stuff you post about and merely mimic the driviel that MSN, CNN, NBC, or huffington tells you to believe (it’s okay, they don’t research facts either).

          • MrSwingGuitar

            “The crusaders often pillaged the countries through which they travelled
            in the typical medieval manner. Nobles often retained much of the
            territory gained rather than returning it to the Byzantines as they had
            sworn to do. Encouraged by the Church, the Peoples’ Crusade prompted the Rhineland massacres and the massacre of thousands of Jews.. The Fourth Crusade resulted in the sacking of Constantinople by the Roman Catholics, effectively ending the chance of reconciling the Byzantine churches to the Roman Catholic Church and ending the East–West Schism, leading to the weakening and eventual fall of the Byzantine Empire to the Ottomans. Nevertheless, some crusaders were only poor people trying to escape the hardships of medieval life in an armed pilgrimage leading to Apotheosis at Jerusalem.”

          • Earthy Mom

            You sir are a very very dangerous person. You instill just enough of the truth to be believed, and yet altar or leave out just enough information to be persuasive. Are you perchance a politician?

          • worldexplorer420

            Wow, you obviously have never had a education, saying 99% of all terrorist attacks are from Muslims, link your source. Terrorism happens all over south America, mexico, Africa, Europe, Russia, the US etc etc and they Are Not Muslim attacks. Less than 1% of the Arab world are terrorist. What you just said is like saying 99% percent of American school children are going to bring guns to school and shoot people.

          • working4change

            For one you keep comparing unrealted BS … you r funny :)

            Terrism against “THE USA AND CHRISTIANS”…. you got to stay on topic here. ..

            The “drug” has never been labled terrism and Barry refuses to call illegals invading or mexicos troops crossing boarder terrorism.

            So based on the Topic of Christians and USA. SPECIFICLY CHRISTIANS. Islam is 99% of the terror! No other FAITHE is at WAR with Christians or jews…..

            You brought up inquisition before as a parallel, we as christians ended the Corruption and the Catholics are now a minority. We have purged courruption many times… ISLAM, MUSLIMS NEVER HAVE!!!

            How can I be more clear.

            So for the last time ISLAM has been at WAR with Christians and Jews sense it was founded Mr Mooohamed. It has NEVER done anything to bring to justice radicals or to change Sharia Law. Islam by its design has one focus of converting the WORLD, it does not accept any other religion as legitimate or to be allowed to survive.

            So now have fun spinning till you puck! All you replies will be deleted. Maybe you can convince others islam is peaceful, I get the lies will be funny.

            Good luck and even though your not a Christian. …

            GOD STILL LOVES YOU AND WE ALL FORGIVE YOU. God bless

          • Brian Robinson

            Your numbers are far off as well so don’t dig someone when you come back with misinformation as well. Saying only 1% is laughable.

          • dollabiIIz2

            Jews still follow the old testament so they are the ones who rape women and children.

          • working4change

            ah no…. why would you think that… the other person was saying we Christians and Jew DO. just sense i am not a Jew i was only using Christian history to explain my thoughts in defense of Christians….

            i know the Jewish faith has had many changes but don’t know enough to mount a defense of the past vs present.

            don’t be so thin skinned. look at the thread and don’t flip over one comment. You will not over react for no reason if you READ what i was replying to.

          • babbott

            Apparently you don’t recognize Sharia law IF you think “there is no chance for Sharia to be instituted in the U.S.” Have you visited Detroit lately? Have you heard of the Muslim men who killed their family members for “disgracing” them? Do you understand how many Muslim organizations operating in the U.S. are demanding that they be subjected to Sharia law? With the direction this nation has been going trying to appease all these different groups, don’t ever think “it can’t happen here”.

          • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

            As a Christian, mere men have performed badly in the past years,,,going to war in GOD’s name and I hope you are smart enough to know that those that did had an agenda and usually greed was involved. With the muslim sharia law, it seems to be about that and egos. We do not need this here, our forefathers fought and died for this country the way it has always been for a couple of hundred years. The muslims seem to have war and fighting and killing and doing terrible things to each other, if they want sharia law, then they should go back and enjoy this law in the country they came from. We do not want or need it.

          • Doubting Thomas

            Just bring on that Shiria Shite and some more of that liberal feces on down South. We’ll tar & feather ya before we violate your personal humanity…then we’ll let ya bleed out over a ‘gator pond just to see how high them gators can jump! ….ya’ll com’on down here now…us country folk and rebels got something for ya….

          • babbott

            Who the hell are you talking to.? For your information I am “down South”.

          • Doubting Thomas

            Not you, man. Those who want to impose Shiria….sorry for the confusion…and yeah, we’ll be happy to introduce as many as we can to Allah, personally!!

          • MrSwingGuitar

            It’s interesting to me how many of the same people who are the most worried about Sharia law being applied in the US (which is counter to our constitution) are also the ones shouting about how Christian prayers should happen in public schools, Christians symbols should be encouraged in governmental offices, etc. The same constitution that protects us from encroachment by Sharia also stops us from having government endorsement of other religions, including Christianity. Detroit? What about Detroit? And what in the world does it have to do with this discussion?

          • working4change

            False! Allowing school prayers has nothing to do with state, it ia a local issue.

            The Government is not allowed to create or force any one religion on the people. Problem is other fathes are still in school and Islamic rewrites of history are now pished on our kids in school. Common core takes to a while new level. Only the Christian faithe is being purged!

            Our country eas founded by christians. Over 3/4 of our nation is Christian, anywhere else it would be called a Christian nation. Get 51% muslim in a country and they demand to called a muslim nation.

            Only we dont force anyone to follow any faithe, ISLAM DOES! Christians have many variations, or denominations. We love everyone yes even muslims as brothers/sisters, but we dont force it on them.

            We have moved on from the missionary days of the Roman Catholic Church… we have learned and changed, ISLAM HAS NOT!

            Now Bathouse Barry is pushing islam on the USA through non enforcement of laws against terror groups and related groups supporting terror. Backdoor Holder is just ignoring everything they do and breaking the law going after anyone that does not agree. Valery just keep the communications with the brotherhood and their allies.

            Nope nothing to see, free handouts just down the street. Dont look here, theres free obama money and cell phones if you go over there. Dont worry about the cost, its taken care of.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            There, there…..just relax and the boys in the white coats will be here soon.

          • Earthy Mom

            First of all yes I believe kids should be allowed to pray in school in their free time. IT is their right to do so or not to do so as they feel. Secondly Muslims are screaming and hollering that they want special rooms in the school for their prayer time, whenever it is they are supposed to pray, and that is ok, they are accommodated, yet a Christian child gets in trouble for praying or reading the bible during free time?
            Thirdly, you keep speaking of the constitution won’t allow it…HELLO have you been paying attention at all to the nit wit in the white house who manages to step around the constitution and just write his own rules? He bypasses congress, and flat out says he will bypass them if he wants, and just use his executive orders to do what he wants.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            You need to turn off Fox “news”. Obama has used fewer executive orders than almost any other modern president. Anything that any president does is subject to judicial review. Our current Supreme Court is one of the most conservative ever; if they don’t find presidential actions unconstitutional, you can bet they aren’t. No Christian should get in trouble for reading the Bible or praying silently in school. There was ONE instance mentioned on this site where some cafeteria worker told a kid not to, and perhaps you recall the hubbub that caused. Having public prayer of any sort in public schools is not allowed, and will not be allowed, regardless of whether it’s Christian, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist or whatever. Seriously, try and think independently and stop buying all the nonsense that websites like this one promote. You may yet become an independent thinker.

          • babbott

            “Having public prayer of any sort in public schools is not allowed, and
            will not be allowed, regardless of whether it’s Christian, Islamic,
            Hindu, Buddhist or whatever”
            Are you really that naive? When Islam decides to have prayer in U.S. schools, they will do it and C.A.I.R. will demand that their wishes are honored. If you look hard enough, you can probably find schools here in the U.S. where it’s already happening because of our political correctness.

          • LeErOy DiCkEnSon

            just on the news last week, a school had to make a section for muslims to get on their mats and pray in a gym….

          • Earthy Mom

            You need to recheck your facts and maybe turn the news on, lol he has used more executive orders than any other president. He has tried to make his executive orders stand as law even though he bypassed congress to initiate them.
            Ohh and by the way, I don’t get my info from fox news, I actually research what is going on, I read the Supreme Court dissertations and decisions. I read what is going on in Congress, I read up on each state, The white house etc.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Here’s a plain unadorned list of the executive orders issued by US presidents over the last 100 years. You’ll note that the only two who issued fewer executive orders than Obama were Ford and Bush I, both of whom were single term presidents. Note also that Saint Ronald Reagan issued twice as many as Obama. So, got any other fallacious “facts” you need debunked?

            Woodrow Wilson
            1,803

            Warren G. Harding
            522

            Calvin Coolidge
            1,203

            Herbert Hoover
            968

            Franklin D. Roosevelt
            3,522

            Harry S. Truman
            907

            Dwight D. Eisenhower
            484

            John F. Kennedy
            214

            Lyndon B. Johnson
            325

            Richard Nixon
            346

            Gerald R. Ford
            169

            Jimmy Carter
            320

            Ronald Reagan
            381

            George H. W. Bush
            166

            William J. Clinton
            364

            George W. Bush
            291

            Barack Obama
            178

          • babbott

            You want to complain about Christians trying to “force” their beliefs on the public but you ignore that Muslims are forcing their beliefs on the public. How many employers have you heard that were required to give special concessions to Muslim employees to accommodate their prayer rituals? Have you seen the photos of Muslims blocking the streets in New York City on Friday afternoons to hold their prayer rituals? When have you ever seen Christians do anything like that? What about Detroit? It’s more than 25% Muslim, there are places in Detroit where the police won’t go because they are too dangerous for non-Muslims, and you can bet that Sharia law is used there. Last I heard, Detroit was in the U.S. You want to say that the Constitution will prohibit Sharia law, but do you really believe the radical Muslims care anything about our constitution? When Christians start demanding special treatment like the Muslims, then you can complain. In the meantime, you need to wake up and see what’s happening around you.

          • retired Don

            I know we have a Muslim president that was put in office by the Muslim Brohood telling all Muslims to vote for him, after the MU Brohood (MB) vowed they would take over the US internally with a Trojan horse Muslim president, I do know that he caters to Muslims, I do know he ignores the oath he took to uphold the constitution because shari’a will not work in America if there is a constitution…i do know that a huge amount of his cabinet are Muslims who feel the same way about switching American law into Shari’a…I do know US courts are allowing Shari’a as a defense for crimes of killing or raping spouses (they have been appealed to and overruled, but it has happened in 23 US courts)…I also know that the MB in many countries are deemed as a terrorist organization, I do know that one of his uncles and one of his half brothers are members of terrorist organizations, and the MB, but they are allowed in the US without any problems, I do know that Obama is a puppet for the MB…we bring things up for fear of Islam because in western countries are quickly being taken over by Islam…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Seek professional help immediately.

          • working4change

            I checked there is no help for you, liberalism is a result of brain damage. Sorry your @$!#ed

          • babbott

            Instead of trying to discredit “retiredDon” why don’t you try to refute any of his comments? You can attack the message so you attack the messenger. Maybe you’re the one who needs professional help.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I’ll be happy to, babbott. Statement 1)”I know we have a Muslim president that was put in office by the Muslim Brohood telling all Muslims to vote for him”. First, it’s demonstrably untrue that Barack Obama is a Muslim. Second, IF all the Muslims in the US voted for him, it would be a pittance of the popular vote….that would mean all the rest of us were “dupes”, right….Statement 2) “i do know that a huge amount of his cabinet are Muslims who feel the same way about switching American law into Shari’a.” Okay, retiredDon…who is a Muslim in the cabinet? A “huge amount” of them would certainly mean you could easily reel off, say, 8 names of practicing Muslims in the Obama cabinet…please go ahead, and present your factual proof. Now, had these statements been true, it would still not follow that they favored instituting Sharia law in the US. Oh, and babbott, feel free to speak in retiredDon’s stead on these matters…I’d love to see proof of these “facts”. Once we’ve dealt with them, we can move on to the rest of his insane claims.

          • retired Don

            I have…being retired Air Force, and having a few contacts in the WH, I
            know for fact that Obama and Michelle go to separate rooms at Islamic
            prayer times three times in the afternoon…for about 15 minutes…
            the
            professional help I have gotten are from numerous former Muslims that
            have answered a lot of questions I have, as well as reading numerous
            times the Qur’an, having read the Sahih Muslim and Bukhari (hadiths) the
            sunnah (the life of Mohammed) and the Reliance of the Traveller (sacred
            manual on Shari’a {Islamic law})…I know the Saudi government paid for
            obama’s college tuition, I know that the Saudi government paid the 2
            mil to hide his and his families records, I know he has professed
            numerous times he was Muslim, then corrected himself to say Christian, I
            know that some world leaders nominated him to be a global caliph
            (Islamic Pope so to speak)…I have gotten a lot of help when it comes
            to who our president works for, what he has done, what he does…

          • MrSwingGuitar

            There’s really nothing I can say to you that’s going to shake your total faith in a pack of total nonsense, so let’s just let it be.

          • retired Don

            you are correct, with the studying of Islam, and with contacts that I have concerning the WH, and the info I have concerning Muslim president BHO…I concur there isn’t anything that can change my mind about what I said…

          • working4change

            Dont forget his Down Low Club friends from Chicago!

          • RealityBites

            I know that MYTH has been killed so many times its pathetic

          • worldexplorer420

            They put fear in Islam because they don’t understand it, there are parts of the middle east that aren’t at all like what you guys are saying, I bet the only thing you guys know about the middle east is all war related. Yes there are countries over there that are bad, but not all of it is. Instead of living in front of your computer reading biased stories go out into the world and explore it. Btw, only very few countries have sharia laws, it’s not every country

          • working4change

            Yes there are places like hoe you say in middle east… Shangrila could be one of them. … a few of the cities. But fact is the vast majority are low education and truely dirt poor. Not USA poor, lol there is almost no “poor” in the USA. We give them so much thry would be considered wealthy in most of the world.

            We never said everyone in muslim world are governed by Sharia Law. But we will die before it becomes law here.

            Simply put if Sharia Law get any real traction in any state a real war will would begin. It will never be tolerated! I hate to think of what would happen. Terrorist would start genocide on christians n jews and the last Holy WAR of all WARs would begin.

            God I hope they figure this out and stop or leave or something. Sadly there is about .000001% change even if hell froze over. The extreme islamists will take everyone to a bad place for their own petty needs.

            We christians want peace above all else, but will never given to islam or any other faithe.

          • watcherofolde

            Their certainly IS a chance of Sharia coming here-why else do states feel the need to pass laws against it? Already some courts allow parts of sharia when judging cases involving muslims. However, I agree sharia hasn’t anything to do with this situation. It is obvious schools want to desensitize kids to things like underage sex,pedophilia,pederasty, etc etc etc.

          • RealityBites

            Panic maybe????

          • Earthy Mom

            If you truly believe there is no chance of Sharia law being implemented here in the good ole’ US of A, sir I suggest you start looking around you, in states such as Michigan, they are using our laws to implement their own. It is happening in many places here. It is not a fear it is a fact. I do not fear rumors I fear factual happenings.

          • Terry Poupart

            “Why do you folks
            constantly bring everything back to your fear of Islam?” Could it be because
            a bunch of Muslim’s flew airplanes into buildings to kill over 3,000 of US in
            the name of Islam? Could it be that 300 school children were recently
            kidnapped to be sold into slavery in the name of Islam? Could it be that
            Major Nidal jumped up and shot dozens of our unarmed soldiers in the name of
            Islam? Could it be that a bunch of Muslims attacked and killed our Ambassador
            and 3 other Americans in Benghazi in the name of Islam. Could it be that
            day in and day out all we hear about Islam is murder and atrocities being
            committed in the name of Islam? Death to anyone who insults Mohammad,
            death to anyone who proteolyses, riots and death over a stupid internet movie.
            Death to Israel, death to America are the favorite Muslim mantra’s.
            Anyone who does not have a healthy fear of the religion of death and its
            Shari totalitarian political philosophy are simply begging for another holocaust.
            Please don’t kill me for making this post.

          • RT

            Very good Terry! I liken it to being constantly being bitten by a certain breed of dog……..how many times are you going to get bit until you put a stop to it?

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I can only imagine the foaming at the mouth that would be going on at this site and others like it had that stupid internet movie been talking about Jesus the way it talked about Muhammad. Religious extremists of any stripe scare me, as do political extremists, like many of those posting on here. What’s the most populous Muslim country? Do you know or care? Check it out and come back and tell me if you think everyone there is a terrorist who wants to bring down the west.

          • RealityBites

            Also killed fellow Muslims in case you never bothered to understand that there were people from 93 nations killed that day. In other words, they didn’t call it the WORLD Trade Center for nothing

          • giant33

            The old Islam is the religion of peace garbage. Islam is a gutter religion. These comments got away from the facts of the story which are another tax paid group of people who have no business in those positions they have. Its seems to be like this in all agencies of our government.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Would you care to restate that in coherent sentences? I’d love to reply, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

          • giant33

            People like you nothing makes sense. Only what you belive. In a nut shell, Islam sucks and the and the people in our government that are in positions of power suck.

          • LeErOy DiCkEnSon

            No chance…. wake up blind one.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            ??? Are you saying that there’s no chance of you becoming an independent thinker? I’m sorry to hear that.

          • MissPoppy

            Would you mind sharing some of those quotes from the Bible?

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Here’s one “And a man will choose…any wickedness, but the wickedness
            of a woman…Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all
            must die” Ecclesiastes, 25:18, 19 & 33.
            Then there’s Genesis 3:16-17 “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
            conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire
            shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” There’s also a lot of nasty stuff in Leviticus, as well as the epistles of Paul, who seems to have been a particular woman hater.

          • Kevin Yates

            It has everything to do with slowly rotting. Let’s take an easy example for you MrSwingGuitar. Something like say, too much sugar for your teeth. You certainly don’t dispute this, do you? Of course not. It’s something you’ve been taught all your life, and by now, certainly, something you believe in. Well, let’s make a comparison with making it ok to showcase in schools the story where something like this is ok. In fact, not only is it ok, it is promoted in a book everyone has to read. Let’s see, have you got it yet? Of course, let’s make it easier for you. Next comes a harder hitting book that not only the young girl, but the older lady has the same sort of thing happen. Oh, wait, you love your mother, and now suddenly it is not right? Ok, buddy, let’s open our eyes and see what’s happening right before your blindness.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Did you read the book in question? I admit that I have not. I just read a summary of the plot, which concerns a mass shooting at a high school. I don’t know how this is treated in the book, but I DO find it peculiar that so many people seem to be very upset about a sex scene, and yet are unconcerned about the violence.

          • Trucker

            Because all Muslims are liars and they are Ungodly Perverts.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I don’t see how anyone could resist the logic of your argument, Trucker…that is, unless they actually have a brain.

          • RealityBites

            Education is your friend

          • AmericanFaith

            The Bible teaches for husbands to love their wives as Jesus Loves His Church…shut up if you know nothing about the Holy Bible.

          • Logical01

            ALL members of the islamic death cult follow the same koran. They believe in the teachings of the sociopath, pedophile rapist, warlord, false prophet mohamed. I have been a Christian my whole life and never was told that women were less than men. In fact, the wedding vows in a traditional Christian wedding require both parties to love honor and cherish each other….not treat them like livestock. When I was in my late teens, I wanted to reaffirm my faith by looking at other faiths and their beliefs. I read the koran. It is a book of evil and hatred. The only way anyone could follow it’s teachings is if they are evil in and of themselves. The book outlines a debased system of brutality that has no place in modern civilzed society. If you are so passionate about defending this vulgar and obscene system, you are either a member of that profane cult or a mindless idiot that is merely repeating what the PC propaganda ministry of the obama administration feeds you. My advice is to read it before you comment in favor of it. I must warn you however, you cannot un-read it and you may find yourself feeling alot less secure about the safety of the world.

          • Beth Bollig

            I typed up a long reply earlier this evening and it’s not here. Too bad, I thought I made good points.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            I’m afraid I didn’t see anything from you.

          • Beth Bollig

            I don’t see it either…when I hit post it said it had to be approved and apparently it has not been for whatever reason. Like I said it’s too bad.

          • Beth Bollig

            I typed up another response to you after the first long one didn’t post and it’s not here either. I suppose this short response here will show up…I’m not too pleased with this.

          • Dano Wright

            apparently you are ignorant [un-informed] of what is going on in Europe in relation to Sharia???
            And you don’t think it will happen here?? The whole point is to “normalizer” the behavior so that nobody protests when Sharia is “applied”— some communities are already subjugating US law to the Sharia……i.e. Dearborn,MI

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Did you know that the word gullible isn’t in the dictionary? I quote ”

            “City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law,”
            declared a National Report headline on Monday, causing an uproar on
            social media. Over 88,000 people shared the article, and many took
            action by calling city hall employees in Dearborn, Michigan, to voice
            their outrage. Dearborn is a suburb of Detroit with a large Muslim
            population which some say is the second largest Arab population outside of the Middle East.
            However, their indignation was unfounded, as National Report, which
            calls itself “America’s #1 Independent News Team,” is actually a fake
            news site a la The Onion, and had posted the article as satire.”
            You people seem to be so ready to hate Muslims that you don’t pay any attention to whether what you’re outraged about is true.

          • Brian Robinson

            That’s bull! The dog has a higher status in the Muslim culture.

          • dancingontheheadofapin

            What are you smoking!??

          • Nancy Janzen

            We are not living with blinders on unlike you. Do you think they are going to market the laws as sharia as they put them up in the city council meetings or as state laws? Houston possible new law will make speaking for traditional marriage illegal. This country will be a hodgepodge of special interest group laws in the near future in which most people will be afraid to travel.

          • Cris Bessette

            Let me have some of what you got.

          • working4change

            Wow read about sharia law more. It allows Rape in many cases. Encouraging rape falls inline with those teachings. Having that kind of sexual exposure at young ages makes them curious about rape. Those kinds of books only make the issue worst not better.

          • Leslie Nicholson Klatt

            Oh yeah like they don’t take the tents off behind closed doors!

          • Chris McDowell

            Anyone who knows the tiniest bit about Sharia law knows that it gives men the right to rape, and even kill their multiple wives, or daughters, for no reason at all or for such “controversial” things as going out in public without a male escort, or trying to educate themselves. Seems you might have missed the point, smart guy…

          • linreis

            the promise of jihad is virgins in heaven. that is given as a reward. so your ‘tiny bit of sharia law’ forgot that part I guess.

          • Cris Bessette

            regardless, exactly how does this promote sexually explicit reading? Stay on subject.

          • linreis

            Cris, I know you are trying to be sarcastic and I’ll ignore your juvenile attempt to ‘guide me’…1. I was commenting within the topic of this train of comments. 2. one does not have to go to the lengths of detail this author took to discuss rape. tell me, why is it porn is one of the biggest money making ‘professions’ in the world? tell me why, even the slightest mention of a swimsuit edition from a sports mag is one of excitement for most heterosexual men…tell me why miley cyrus’ exploits are still being shown in the media? it isn’t because of sex is it???? LOL…the word is titillation. It draws people and for teens, who are naturally curious, it makes them want more. and yes, there are plenty of people out there who are turned on by rape, and the details this author writes only whets their appetites.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Pssst….these people don’t have a clue about Sharia law, they just know they hate Muslims.

          • Cris Bessette

            yeah, I live in rural Georgia. Xenophobia runs deep around here…

          • Logical01

            There is the FACT that sharia absolves men from guilt of rape as long as the man accuses her of being promiscuous…..no proof required. the only one punished is the woman who was raped.

          • Ryan

            As does 98% of the male population, we can delete our browsing history on our computer. He didn’t have that option hiding out like the coward he was.

          • phred01

            it came from this school.

        • retired Don

          well, it doesn’t…pornography in Shari’a can get you flogged, however, if women do not wear their burkas and they are condemned for sudeucing a male into raping them…and if a woman is raped in a Muslim country, she (unless she has three male witnesses in her defense) is sentenced to die, because it was her fault the rapist did what he did…so, if this is grooming teens for sex, it is grooming the males that it is ok to rape, because if a woman does not cover her skin, then she is tempting a male to have sexual contact with her, thus making him unclean is allah’s/satan’s eyes

          • Cris Bessette

            Your first sentence responds to my comment, thanks.

            The rest is somewhat true depending on the country. Did you know that Al Queda has publically denounced Boko Haram for kid napping those girls?
            Apparently they don’t ALL have the same kind of crazy.

          • retired Don

            Boko Haram is a sect or “denomination” of Islam…like protestants and Catholics…they have the same general belief, but have major differences…Al Qaeda was created by the Muslim Brotherhood, based on terrorizing the world until every nation “submits” to Islam…Boko has the same general belief, but goes at it a little differently.

        • dancingontheheadofapin

          Don’t take this lightly, sir. It is not a laughing matter. This is a calculated move by the proponents of Common core to indoctrinate kids. The examples are abundant that CC is destroying traditional classic education of young children. It used to be that the progressive/liberal twisting of children’s minds happened in college. That is no longer the case. Just like during the Third Reich, the children are being taken over by the government earlier and earlier. Now even kindergarteners are targeted. Just research Common Core.

        • reggiec

          In Islam a woman is worth 1/2 of what a man is. Then how about the gang rape of a widowed woman in Pakistan by Muslims for having an affair with a married man. Sharia law allows a man to “rape” his wife even if she is an 11 year old or younger child bride.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            The US Constitution stipulates that a black slave is 3/5 of a human being…does that mean that all of us in the US are therefore bigots? There are still racist jerks in our country, and there are still sexist jerks in Islam. The Old Testament justified slavery and wife beating…should we therefore brand all Jews and Christians as condoning such things?

          • Earthy Mom

            The constitution says that? hmm guess I will have to re read the constitution. And what about the ratifications of the constitution after the abolition of slavery?

          • MrSwingGuitar

            Yes, you should re-read the Constitution. I believe what you’re talking about is the 13th amendment, which abolished slavery in the US…not sure what you’re asking about it, though. Was it an improvement on the original document? Absolutely, as was the amendment that allowed women to vote.

          • GracieW

            The 3/5 compromise was because of the north not wanting pro-slavery southerners to have a higher representation in the gov’t. So the 3/5 thing isn’t saying blacks weren’t worth the same as whites. It was abolitionists trying to stop racist slave owners from using the black slaves as a head count in order to get a higher rep total in congress and thus sway the slavery issue. But nice job trying to twist it to suit your straw man.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            The south wanted as much representation in the House as possible, so they attempted to get their slaves all counted in full. The north wanted as much representation in the House as possible, so they didn’t want slaves counted at all. In other words, the states with the most people being treated as beasts of burden and property were arguing that they should be called people, even though they CLEARLY weren’t. The northerners said the slaves MIGHT be people, but couldn’t be counted as such if they were property. The whole thing stank. So, what point are you trying to make? My “straw man” being that we’re not all bigots anymore? You’re not making sense.

          • RealityBites

            Hence the reason for the War for Southern Independence. The North was the bully and the South was having to defend their right to secede, a right they made perfectly clear that they had when they joined

          • reggiec

            The Three-Fifths Compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution which reads:

            “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

            The Constitution did not state that slaves and “indentured servants” were 3/5 of a human being! It stated they would be “counted” as 3/5 for apportionment and representation. BIG difference.

          • MrSwingGuitar

            And what, exactly, is your point? Mine was that slaves were considered less than human in the early days of our country. If you want to get in an argument about that, I’m happy to take you on.

          • Cris Bessette

            I’m not defending sharia law, it’s disgusting.

        • Leslie Nicholson Klatt

          No they “educate” them with live acts at 9 years old!!!!!

        • Joay Baisi

          Cris bessette you need to do some actual research. Because sharia law does give actual graphic details of the act. The entire quran is based on muhammad sexual addiction and how men could and should do it.

          • RT

            If you want to play with the Muslims, that’s up to you. I’ll choose not to when their own bible states that’s it’s ok to lie to infidels in order to be in position to destroy them. If you want to play with that kind of Snake, that up to you. I’ll stay at arms length ……….and NEVER trust it!

        • Doubting Thomas
        • Olie

          I lived in Saudi Arabia, and a lot of self-described “devote Muslims” were anything but, in real life….at least they went against everything in the Judeo-Christian ten commandments: they raped, engaged in homosexuality, bestiality, kidnapped, every sordid thing. The Roma Catholic Church in the 1400s declared Islam a Satanistic cult. And the RC is 100% correct.

          • Olie

            Mohammed is really Satan.

        • AmericanFaith

          Get educated and find out what sharia is all about…no excuses.

          • Cris Bessette

            Sharia law does not promote sexually explicit books. …no excuses…

        • Logical01

          Well “Cris”, there is no single group that supports rape more than islam. It is perfectly okay as long as the man blames the act on the woman.

          • Cris Bessette

            If you have to change the subject to “win” whatever.. Again, sharia law not going to promote books like this.

    • RealityBites

      If I was your kid I would read it anyway

      • Nancy Janzen

        The difference between you wanting to read it and you being forced to read it hasn’t sunk into your head yet I see.

        • RealityBites

          There was plenty of stuff I was “forced” to read in school that in reality I didn’t give a flying flip about. However had my parents pitched a fit I would have read whatever they hated just because they hated it

    • Leslie Nicholson Klatt

      Then they will say its just a bunch of tissue when the girl gets pregnant! What a sick world we live in!!

    • tonilaura

      Have you seen the other book in another school showing very descriptive sex positions, with nude figures?

      My children are not in public schools anymore and I am glad.

      This administration, the minority on school boards, are making decisions and refusing to recognize parents rights. Read the sort of questions asks by CORE tests for fourth graders that are college grade. The public schools are more interested in teaching sex, driving parents than teaching the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic to the students. Aren’t school board members elected?

    • Logical01

      Even most crappy parents can do better than the schools. They have gone from being educators to being indoctrinators of perversion.

  • Taint Martinez

    I don’t think you need to keep quoting the book.

    • Eric Stegner

      If you see it again, dont read it.

    • mistsho

      That’s all you have to say on the subject? Don’t quote the book?

    • CrazyAuntJane

      REALLY??? Are you offended? These are 14 year-olds they are peddling this smut to!! It needs to be quoted enough times for everyone to know about it!!

      • steve theman

        yall are jsut as bad as the schoolboard. whats matter? The book turns you on so much you have to keep repeating it? REALLY. You slut you! We dont’ need to know the content to know it was graphic. Only perverts like you need to repeat it

        • Duck1Hunter

          Don’t be a child. You don’t know these people, the point of posting it is because when this started people questioned the severity of the issue and claimed the father was overreacting. Only pervs think everyone else thinks like them.

        • CrazyAuntJane

          Sounds like your kind of literature. Not up to Hustle but better than the evening paper!

    • checker99

      Ah yes, bury your head in the sand and everything will be just fine …

    • habalady

      People like you that ignore and aren’t outraged are the problem. It’s posted because it shows how far this crap is being foisted on our kids under the guise of education!

  • Gary McElroy

    Her father should be very proud of her. The school would probably expell her for reading the Bible during her lunch break.

    • Abby Sapp

      I live in the town where the young man was kept from reading his Bible.

      They are going to hear from me! If anyone else wants the phone number for that school …. and want to call and gripe, here’ya go!

      3925 N State Road 7
      Lauderdale Lakes, FL 33319
      Phone: (754) 322-7650

      • Abby Sapp

        It would be spectacular if everyone in here would call at least the one school four or five times tomorrow ….. raise hell!

        If someone could get the number for the school in question here, I’d love to have that too. I’ll blinkin’ BLAST’EM!

        • Sandie Roach

          Gilford School District
          2 Belknap Mtn. Road
          Gilford, NH 03249
          603-527-9215 (p)
          603-527-9216 (f)

          • Abby Sapp

            Thank you Sandie! I’ll make some noise today (Friday, 05/09/14)

          • rhcrest

            I just called. Did you call ? I blasted the number out in an email with the contact info

          • Abby Sapp

            There is a program that I wrote a few years ago being used to promote sales on eBay and other sales venues. I also use it with an automatic tweeting system and it is going into that system and will be tweeted daily with the phone number to call.

            We are known as “The Gypsy Posse” and anyone in here who wants to use up my 300 available slots per day for things of this nature …. feel free. I pay nothing for the service as I wrote it and sell nothing, just tweet for others. We can use my 300 slots per day, just tell me what we’re to say.

            Yes, I called.

          • rhcrest

            Cool

          • Abby Sapp

            Called and left a call back message for the superintendent to call back. Please, one and all, do the same thing!

          • rhcrest

            I just found out that the school board members names and numbers have to be made public.

          • Mia Pennington

            I will be sharing this video on my Facebook & in my fort drum army wives group… my babies are still babies but I would never ever let them read that smut! They may hate me for it now, but they can read whatever they feel like when they are out of my house! As parents, it is our job to make sure we prevent their minds to be stripped with books like that! If they want to learn about sex… i am here. The exact reason why I won’t let them have the sex ed class is elementary school.

        • kidsmom

          I just sent the principal an email explaining the disgust that many feel around the country.

          • kidsmom

            the principal’s email: psawyer@sau73.org

          • RealityBites

            And I will send one of support in staunch opposition to you and the whiners

      • heilbama

        Shine the light on them and they will scurry like roaches. Because that’s what they are. Good for you!

      • Abby Sapp

        Another number to call is the School Board (with specific direction to Personnel:

        (754) 321-3200

        I have just called both and let them know they’d be receiving a whole lot more calls until this teacher is terminated……the response was “that information is not made public and the decision will be made after she presents her side of the story” ….

        Too bad … so sorry.
        Please call and make a stand for what is happening in our schools.

        • rhcrest

          i can’t get through

          • Abby Sapp

            I would keep trying, but if you have a twitter account, it would help if you made a statement there and left the phone number also for your friends/etc. to do the same. The faster this spreads to millions, the less apt they are to do this crap again.

            I’m trying to find the names and numbers of the school board members.

          • rhcrest

            It said the number is no longer working. I dont have a twitte account but i did blast the phone number of the school out in an email

          • Abby Sapp

            That is probably because I called and let them know. They’ve probably stalled that number. Try the number with 9217 (603-527-9217) as the last four. (Usually, when multiple numbers are assigned by a telephone company to a network of phones … they are in sequence) … I just tried that and it works to get the district.

          • rhcrest

            I called the Dept of Education and they said the school board names and numbers have to be made available to the public and to call the school to get it. The school would not give the phone numbers to me.The names are per a commenter above: Sue Allen; Chair
            Kurt Webber
            Karen Thurston
            Rae Mello-Andrews
            Jack Landow

          • rhcrest

            School board phone number 603-527-9215
            Fax number 603-527-9216
            Sue Allen, Chairperson 603-528-2265
            Jack Landow 603-528-5202
            Rae Mello-Andrews 603-293-4363
            Karen Thurston 603-524-7903
            Kurt Webber 603-293-4486 Per the poster above Jay Hanig

          • Abby Sapp

            Wonderful! Thank you for the additional numbers!

          • rhcrest

            You’re welcome!

          • Abby Sapp

            This is what I’m stating to each of these in their messages:

            I’m calling from Florida and want you to know that you are forcing rape and pornographic materials on young people who should relying upon their parents to explain this part of life to them? This makes me think the boys and girls in your school are expecting a sexual experience to be a forced situation (rape) and that it isn’t sex unless it is forced (rape).

            This information is going nationwide today and into Europe, along with your phone number. Expect a lot of calls … you may as well even change your phone numbers.

          • rhcrest

            Excellent! You sound much calmer than i. I called the school and said they were crazy. The person i spoke with said her daughter read the same book and that she had no problem with it. I said shame on you! I said people like you are why the country is in such sad shape.

          • Abby Sapp

            That is probably because I’m a grandmother and have no children in school right now ….. doesn’t mean they’re not making their kids into barbarians and people who don’t respect each other. My guess is the daughter who had no problem with it is one who’s already been there … at 14, I question mom’s ability.

          • rhcrest

            I spoke with the mother and the mother is the one who said sheherself had no problem with her daughter reading it! I’m a mom with a 13 and 11 year old so this hits right home

          • Abby Sapp

            When I was this age (not that I couldn’t get in trouble), I was thinking “Drill Team” … tennis, horses, dogs, friends, dances, boating, cheerleading, education itself ….. Yeah, I’d gone through the “sex talk”, but DANG!

          • rhcrest

            I was into similar things. I mostly just wanted to do fun stuff with my friends. I wasn’t thinking that i wanted to have sex either!

          • working4change

            Lol wish I had a blowhorn…. that would make someone piss their tightywhities…..

          • Abby Sapp

            We need one of those “blampers” that the yachts use to open the bridges down here: Some recordings:

            http://www.soundsnap.com/tags/boat_horn

          • working4change

            Yep put right up to phone…..

            Hello corrupt tracher central how can I better control you?

            HOOOONNNNKKKK!!!

            (Screaming) ahhhh my ear! You @$## @$# ^#!! @$!/

          • Abby Sapp

            LOL ….. that should do it! Maybe that’s what I should do. Trained to sing as a teen (my most important venture in the ninth grade) …. but microphones were hard to find ….. so I learned to belt it out like Ethel Merman. Hmmmmmmm.

          • morstar150

            Jack Landow was just appointed by the School Board in April. Sue Allen, Kurt Webber and Jack Landow are up for election in 2015. Gilford needs to get rid of them but not in the way that is suggested in Nineteen Minutes.

            Aside from the expect sexual references, the book promotes a casual attitude toward suicide in teenagers, and even homicide. This book is very troubling for teenagers or anyone for that matter.

          • Abby Sapp

            I have called all of these numbers demanding that a public apology is made or change of their cell numbers.

  • Big Dog9MM

    Vote the dumb asses out! Then arrest them. I have a feeling her dad’s case will be thrown out….the board and administration are BULLIES

    • Eric Stegner

      He should sue their asses..every last one!

    • Abby Sapp

      More people need to stand and stop this stuff. The School Boards are the biggest bullies there are. In certain parts of Missouri, they’ll hunt parents down and throw them in the slammer for protesting lewd conduct in the schools.

    • deragon0416

      Is it ironic that they are bullying him in relation to a book that is part of some school’s anti bullying curriculum

    • morstar150

      There is no legal basis for the arrest. The rules are not stated specifically in the school board policy and so no law can be imposed without proper notice to a person.

      Secondly, the disorderly conduct charge requires a complainant there is no statement of complaint prior to the arrest. I think the cop may have done this on his own, and a police officer cannot be the complainant in a disorderly conduct arrest.

      • Big Dog9MM

        There crime is intimidating students like the guys daughters…and they are giving pornography to children….they have broken laws….

  • sputnik1

    I hope every concerned parent stands with Mr. Baer. If this smut was being assigned to my child I’d have quite a bit to say about it. These people need to be held accountable. Peddling porn should not be a part of education. There are plenty of other books that could be assigned. Who is pushing this curriculum? I thank God that my kids are all grown and out of this disgusting excuse for a school system. I can tell you right now, I’d be home schooling.

    • Pat Lanier

      From the video I watched yesterday, it didn’t look like any of the other parents backed him up at all. I would have ended up being arrested right along with him.

      • steve theman

        what i dont’ understand is why the parents didn’t go to the courthouse and file a warrant for the persons arrest that authorized pornography to be distributed to the children. IT is a crime the last time i checked for anyone under 18 to be given porn TIme to arrest some folks

      • sputnik1

        Me too Pat. I can’t believe that everyone just sat there and let him be led away. The woman in front was Heather Hamill. She’s a local television reporter and she looked liked a deer caught in the headlights. I’m ashamed to say that this happened in my State and I’m appalled that the “Live Free or Die” State is allowing this man to be not only silenced but arrested for voicing his opinions.

      • Miss Diane

        Me too !

    • Abby Sapp

      I’ve heard this type of thing coming out of Missouri, but not New Hampshire, until now. These schools need to be REMOVED!

      • onwego4k

        it is rape not sex good thing to teach the boys what hogwash the rest of the parents didn’t bat an eye what the hell is wrong with them .

        • David

          What I find upsetting the parents are of my generation. Where the heck did we go wrong. I would have been right next to the guy telling the board where they need to go.

      • sputnik1

        I’m hoping the Free State Project will get involved in this. It’s especially disconcerting since we’re suppose to be the “Live Free of Die” State. How ironic.

      • Randy G

        it’s the Administration that needs to be fired .. These folks are voted in .. you have the chance to change what you don’t like about their decisions come next election.

  • Tara1

    Sounds like a rape scene! I would be protesting like a crazy women as these so called educators are out of line!

    • Jim Kotthoff

      It was a rape scene

    • steve theman

      oh sheesh get over it, everythings a rape scene to feminists. thats not the point. The point is that they distributed porn whatever it is rape, animal sex, or just plain ole fashioned vanilla sex like your book 50 shades of grey you women love. Its all the same thing.

      • Nell

        You are right steve, it is about sex of whatever form, and being taught to underage children by the very ones that are supposed to be protecting them and teaching them right from wrong–not how to prefect wrong!!!!!! I would have probably brought the teacher out and let him/her explain just how this book is appropriate!!!!!!! It is not the same as a grown woman reading any book she is old enough to read–these teens are not!! And they are being taught this as educational not for their own taste!!!

        • 68gto

          So now a kid goes out and rapes another teen and his defense will be that he was taught this in school so it must be permissible.

  • Terry

    This is the most disgusting thing anyone could ever make a child read. The Superintendant, the Principal and the teacher should all be fired and put in prison for a long period of time and banned from ever having any connection with children again. If I were the Dad of that little girl, I would sue that school and those involved for everything they have. God help anyone whoever tries this crap with one of my Grandchildren.

  • Kathy Jolley

    What is next? The viewing of “9 1/2 Weeks” or “caligula”?

    • steve theman

      they will have no problem with approving caligula since it is insensitive to discriminate against queers

  • old409

    Anybody promoting that books use to young students should be arrested for child pornography.

  • Nicole Edwards

    The dad was in the right. Because there is no way I would allow my kids to read something like that. And for a school to think that it is okay. Is terrible and goes to show how messed up the school system really is. It i not their place to teach certain things. And this is one of those certain thing.

    • RealityBites

      It was ONE STUPID PAGE!!! SHEESH! How about crying about Romeo and Juliet where 2 teenagers kill themselves for each other?