‘Disturbing new evidence’: Bundys tell Greta what they discovered Feds doing

The question on everyone’s minds when Bureau of Land Management officers first swooped in to take over public lands being used for grazing by the Cliven Bundy family was, “why did they bring in bulldozers?” The answer was to dig mass graves for Bundy cattle.

Bundy’s wife Carol and daughter Stetsy Bundy appeared “On the Record” Monday and told Fox News host Greta Van Susteren that so far they’d discovered the carcasses of eight of their cattle lying in shallow graves.

“Four from the pit, two in the corral and then two bulls out on the range that we found,” Stetsy Bundy acknowledged.

When asked if the bureau had offered any explanation, Carol Bundy said, “We don’t communicate with the BLM as to why they do whatever they do.” She added that the cattle that were euthanized included “mother cattle” to increase the herd, and “steers that we send to auction.”

In addition to killing the cattle, bureau officers had unnecessarily destroyed improvements made to the public land by the Bundys to make it more suitable for grazing, according to Stetsy Bundy.

Watch the interview via Fox News.

 

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., also appeared “On the Record” and told Van Susteren that this was another example of “outrageous overstepping by federal authorities.”

Watch the exchange via Fox News, then check out “Laura Bush shows ‘pure class’ in message to Clintons.”

 

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  • Don

    Meanwhile, millions are struggling to put food on the table, beef’s getting more expensive and farmers are failing because of drought conditions in the West.

    Thanks, Mr. President. Yet another great idea.

    • Ironranger14Z

      I really, really hate to say this, but for once, I don’t think he knew about this. I think it’s all on Sen Greed and his son, over this deal with that Chinese Co.

      • CarlaMcDonald

        He KNOWS about everything. He just doesn’t know what to do about it.

        • chamuiel

          well hairy and his son does not look like owebama’s sons.

        • sheinLV

          I think he’s applauding that filth Harry Reid and son

        • MissyT111

          Truly insightful comment. Thx. He is either incompetent or unaware, either of which is grounds removal.

        • C-Ann-C

          Sure he knows! He HAS to know! Not just he don’t know what to do about it, but that he WON’T do anything about it because it’s his “prodigal son” Dirty HARRY REID at the Helm and he’s got FULL control of what he wants, when he wants, and ALL he wants! It’s HARRY GREEDY REID and yes, ALSO his GREEDY PUNKY Lawyer son at every step of the way with this Land GRAB deal and this with “CHI-CONS”! And now Harry has instigated a THREAT saying that “Something will happen” to the Bundy’s, and THAT is a THREAT of all THREATS! The Bundy’s better watch their backs because we might be hearing about something tragic happening soon and DIRTY HARRY GREEDY REID will be behind it all, including his GREEDY PUNKY LAWYER SON!

          • emiliani

            Show me the last cop turned 100-millionaire, and I’ll show you a dirty cop. I think Obama wants to play Harry’s Reed.

        • witch00

          Sooooooooo correct. He wouldnt stop it even if he could. He knows they the powers that be will make an example out of him.he now realizes hes not really safe either.but cant change now. NOT EVEN. IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. O VOMITAS IN TOOOOO DEEEEP!! I almost feel sorry for him. I SAID ALMOST!!

      • Bruce

        He ordered it done. You are dumber that you type.

      • steve

        Umm these were FEDERAL AGENTS sent in there’s no Way Obama didn’t know…Get real

      • Sunshine43

        Are you for real?!?!

      • Raymond Tower

        He knew, the SF that were there get their orders from the potus. To make excuses for the pos in the WH is just wrong

      • LittleRoot_48

        The BUCK stops with him.

      • floramae

        I don’t hate to say it!!

      • waybackwhen

        Please open you closed mind and realize Obama wants to make us a Third World Country and take away our independence and have all of us on the government dole!
        You can see the ghettos and the abandoned homes and these are what is left of people who have NO self respect or ambition and THAT is exactly what Obama is CREATING!

        • Joay Baisi

          You are absolutely right! Everyone needs to open their eyes and take a good look around. There are 8 levels that must be achieved in order to create a socialist state. Just to name a few. Control of health care, welfare, gun control, collapsed economy, class warfare, removal of god. Does any of these things sound familiar? Please people wake up, before we divide even more and become our own enemy

    • Marbran

      Remember, beef is getting more expensive ONLY because we are redirecting 40% of our domestic corn production to the creation of ethanol. In 2000, less than 5% was used to make phony gas; thanks to our progressive masters, we now ‘starve’ ourselves economically to protect Gaia.

      • waybackwhen

        And that ethanol is a HIGHER pollutant than the oil! Another one of Obama’s “green” programs gone bad!

    • sheinLV

      He wanted to bring this country down, and he’s doing a good job

      • Rose

        Remember Obama said we will rise and FALL together.

        • waybackwhen

          Obama will have a stash of $$$ before that happens!

    • Raymond Tower

      The drought is not destroying the farmers here in California. The eco terrorist are. The delta smelt does not belong in the waters that they are in. The delta smelt was put there and now water is being denied to the farmers, in the name of “protecting” the small fish.

    • pen44

      Don, that’s “president Stalin, the collectivist”. Harry & his son are to be held personally responsible for this mess, Harry’s greed is just all consuming…plus, he truly believes that Nevada is their personal property, to be used as they please. But, while all politicians are bought&paid for by the lowest bidder….the Demmunists have made the “payoffs” into family businesses, and overpaid job opportunities for their spawn……..

      • Terri

        They probably want to build huge corals and fema houses to keep Citizens that they haven’t killed yet. They want our guns and they want us to shut up and just “take it”. Otherwise we lose everything that we’re allowed to have and we have to live in the coral. Remember the Japanese? They can and would do it to US too. Marshall Law is all it takes and Obama stays in the White House.

        • dogface

          I read that they where planning to do something with the land..

          • waybackwhen

            That is TRUE although Reid is denying the FACT that he and the Chinese had a deal cooking for a very large solar panel project not far from the Bundy property!
            Reid’s website has removed the ground breaking ceremony pictures and story but there are some sites that have kept it safe!! Google Reid Chinese ground breaking for solar plant.

    • floramae

      thanks mr. ovomit, it’s not a president, it’s an oligarch.

  • sputnik1

    Government and absurdity are becoming synonymous. Just like corruption and Demonrats.

    • (CofC) Cult of Cannibals

      Evil and Democrats

    • LittleRoot_48

      This administration epitomizes corruption.

    • dogface

      Been like that since the beginning of time.. We can expect no less than corruption from any politicians.. All the way back to the Roman Empire..Demoncrat politicians..

  • Jeff Roland

    And Harry Greed has nothing to do with the BLM and this incident. BS Harry Greed and a Chinese consortium own the land around the Bundy ranch for what I do not know but this ranch stands in its way

  • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

    We need an American in the Oval Office again, as in the past, and one who will root out corruption and imprison all those that are caught! Almost the entire Legion of Demons would be behind bars as they deserve! Lets get Palin in there, she hates corruption and is not afraid of HomoBoy Obama or his Skank!

    • Kathy Nelson

      Oh please! Caribou Barbie? Let’s not trade one big problem for a meaner
      one. What we don’t need is to have any leader enslaved to the whims of
      any political party.
      Right and left have exactly the same agenda, and
      that is to keep we the sheeple distracted with stupid, divisive
      quarreling over meaningless political ideologies while the monster
      behind the scene keeps gobbling up the landscape.
      Why do you think
      the issue with Bundy has scared the feds spitless? It’s because
      thousands of people showed there support for the brutality that family
      has suffered at the hands of a corrupt federal agency, and those
      supporters didn’t give a dam about religion, politics, race, gender, or
      what state they were born in. They were united in opposition to tyranny
      and nothing scares an oppressor more than that.

      • Sherrie Cain

        While I agree with most of what you have said , Kathy,demonizing Sarah Palin plays right into the hands of the leftists. Sarah has successfully fought corruption in Alaska and has true integrity. If you believe that she is enslaved to any party you don’t know that her only agenda is to preserve liberty in our nation. The left denigrates all conservative women.

        • Sunshine43

          Spot on Sherrie!

        • Blaser270

          She did not fight corruption in AK. If anything she was the most inept Governor in their history and ran when the going got tough. She is enslaved to her POCKETBOOK and FAME! She is useless beyond a few sound bites.

          • Raymond Tower

            Another libtard piping in. Where is your evidence?

          • Blaser270

            Talk to the residents of AK. She would have a hard time being elected even to their state house. They saw the real deal when she was there. Her fabled pipe line will never happen. Her great tax scheme with the oil companies is going down the tubes as they’ve essentially quit exploring for oil. The state government is in the process of trying to fix that mess as well. Only thing she did was sell the airplane and save a few bucks there.

          • mogul264

            My brother IS a resident of AK, and HE agrees that Palin was a TRUE conservative Governor. He also knows of the PRESENT bunch of liberals infesting Juneau, and what a useless bunch are they! He said they (and their children, of whom he knows some) are arrogant, snobbish, and always seeking some way to fill their pockets or waste state money!
            Preferably BOTH……think of the ‘bridge to nowhere’!

          • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

            Of course, none of your Alaska Leftist friends would vote for her, that is Leftist Mentality to stick together and only vote for Idiots and Unknowns, like HomoBoy Muslim Obama. Yep, ya’ll showed some real “intelligence” there, lol! Are you getting your Freebies on time? Maybe call Barry if your not, maybe he will have time to look into it if he is not on the Golf Course or having his pudding stuffed at the local Gay Bath House.

          • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

            Apparently, her brains are in her tits, Raymond, certainly not one in her head, lol!

          • Raymond Tower

            No kidding, since she can’t provide one shred of evidence and is running her mouth. Just another liberal twit.

          • mac12sam12

            Yes she did fight corruption and had a corrupt governor removed. She was an excellent governor with an 80% approval rating. After her run as vice president she got a lot of attention by the lib loons who feared her. The endless law suits were costing Alaska millions. The left viscously attacks anyone the fear. POCKET BOOK and FAME? GMAB!

          • Blaser270

            Check the poll numbers for her in AK today. There is no 80% approval rating. Keep drinking the koolaid… she’s done for.

          • mac12sam12

            While she was governor she had an 80% approval rating. The liberal media, and the spoon-fed idiots like yourself try to destroy her. Koolaid is a left wing beverage and I think you’ve overdosed. Call 911! Little early for libations, isn’t it. Disgusting women, Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman-Schults. You know, your ilk.

          • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

            Duh, she is not holding any office today, you idiot! Why would there be a poll? Your about as worthless as a pimple on the butt. Are you sure you aren’t that stupid Leftist Liberal Skank, Linda, I kicked out of my home and life for being such an ignorant twat? It would not surprise me, she was just as much of an LIV (Low Information Voter) like you!

          • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

            Apparently, your brains are in your tits and not in your head! Stupid is as Stupid says, and you just proved beyond a doubt, you are one ignorant raving Leftist Idiot who sucks up every drop of vomit Obama spews! Go back to your sewer and waddle in your own feces, your sick Troll!

      • Sharpshooter

        Kathy, you really should try to emulate your “betters” as your jealousy is showing through and negating what you are trying to put across. If you didn’t feel the need to denigrate your “betters” and got in there and tried to do something on a positive note, you might feel much better about your self, and actually make a contribution in life. God still loves you, he’s just pissed off at you right now!

        • Raymond Tower

          Although I agree with most of what you say, the term “your betters” for anyone in or has been in public office, is not something I would like to see. They are not our betters, they are our employees.

      • Chasity Nichols

        Amen! However I do like Palin. At least what I know of her

      • http://www.eatmyfartsIslam.com billwhit1357

        Your a Demonrat Troll, who is out to spread LIES and BS about decent people. You would rather put up with the same old crap from the same old cesspool, wouldn’t you? Shows that some minds were just never meant to be helped or advanced!

    • Cerberus

      It’s unfortunate that the media have once again marginalized an intelligient, well-informed potential candidate with misinformation, attributing false quotes, etc. Sarah Palin would prove to be someone to be reckoned with, and they can’t stand that. It’s too bad that even conservative-leaning people have bought into this character assassination. Also, I wish people would stop affixing judgements of women’s personal appearance to their value assessments. Comments about Michele Obama, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin are examples. We don’t do this with men to the same degree. If Ms. Palin were less attractive, she would be labeled a skank. As it is, she is “Caribou Barbie.” Not!

    • Jim T

      Lesson Learned — NEVER elect another corrupt politician from Chicago. Now the whole country should understand the Chicago way. The whole machine led by the Daleys.

    • witch00

      Hip hip horray !! Far as i am comcerned she can pack a gun of anysize she likes. Right in view of everyone. I just hope she uses it!!6

    • waybackwhen

      What we need is a POTUS and Congress that LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND WILL PUT IT BEFORE THEIR FINANCIAL GAIN!

  • savethepelicans

    hey where is PETA on the brutal slaughter and waste of these cattle? Oh yeah, feds did it at Obamas lap dog Bidens request so it’s okay.

    • Kathy Nelson

      PETA promotes the “euthanasia” of any animals under the care/control of human beings. It has not ethical concerns about the humane treatment of livestock. If you wish to make a complaint about this incident go here:

      Human Society of the United States (Farm Animal
      Protection Campaign). The head of that campaign is Paul Shapiro. Here is a link with an online form:

      http://www.humanesociety.org/f

      • CarlaMcDonald

        Actually, PETA did make a response, and suggested that everyone become Vegans.

    • Marbran

      PETA is prepping for Burning Man.

  • jimrussell

    If the Fed’s do decided to enforce the law, they WILL arrest and put any of these deserving amature tough guy pinheads in the federal slammer. The federal pens are full of actual real tough guys that would make this crowd of ignorant malcontents look like 6th grade school girls.

    • Jon Peterman

      liberal much?

      • jimrussell

        Just understand the legal system and the morons that think their interpretation of it in some way puts them above it. It doesn’t and these clowns will learn that hard lesson to their displeasure..

        • TJake

          Jim, Are you including politicians that change the law to fit their agenda like the clowns like Reid did in this situation?

          • jimrussell

            Well as usually, when it comes to conservative issues the facts are just made up. There has NEVER been a right to graze on public land anywhere in the U S.. The Taylor Act of 1934 allowed the Fed’s to allow grazing by permit. The area where Bundy was grazing was taken off the grazing list in 1993 for 2 main reasons. To allow the land to recover from wild fires and to protect the Desert Tortoise. Bundy has challenged in COURT 2 times. Once on “grandfather rights”, COURT found against him. 2nd time Bundy sued on states rights again COURT found against him. This is a legal case. Bundy continued to graze. Reid had nothing to do with it, this is a court order. Bundy owes you and the nation 1M dollars, why should we suffer the loss?

          • CarlaMcDonald

            He owes us nothing. He has made payments to the State of Nevada, and the County Commission (with Rory Reid) didn’t know what to do with them. Bundy has stated that he will pay the State, but not the BLM, and rightfully so. Oh, and Reid put the judge on the case into place, also. “Reid’s Bunkerville” is negotiating with the Chinese for the Solar Farms. Catch up.You may understand the law, but you haven’t researched Follow The Money. All 53 ranches that lost their property in that area did so in (paid pennies on the dollar) order to make room for the Chinese Solar Farms (which have been proven to be a huge waste of money, but once they are here, they won’t leave.) Welcome to the New World Order and Agenda 21.

          • jimrussell

            The issue and court order pertain to Federal Land and yes he does owe the U S government and he will pay or be penalized and even if he does pay still may be penalized . He’s a deadbeat. Reid has nothing to do with Bundy, Bundys’s problem is with the courts and their court order to stop grazing, he did not putting him in violation. What happens when you get caught for something as simple as speeding, you just say no? No, you pay or you get penalized Same for Bundy.

          • Merilee Kenning

            you know jimrussel i don’t know how long you have been on this planet, but our gov as it stands seems to be making up the rules and laws as it goes to benefit no one but the center of itself. It is using our taxpayer dollars to train land based military police to bully and beat the people down, to desensitize us, to make us afraid, to make us believe we have to follow their made up as they go laws. Apparently you are a victim already. so sorry. We the people have rights-I will not comply!

          • jimrussell

            Get a grip, you break the law from speeding to murder law enforcement is going to come after you. We call that a civilized society. High or low, no one is above the law. Well except bankers.

          • Well Done

            Bundy has broken no law and the Feds are going to have the land formally reclaimed by the several states. That’s the good that will come of the 0bama administration’s campaign to disenfranchise Americans.
            Well, that, and we’ve found the true bozos. You for example.

          • jimrussell

            No they won’t. Delusion is no substitute for reason.

          • chamuiel

            And Hairy Reid, Diane Feinstein, owebama, etc.

            Should I keep going?

            Lois Lerner, Kathleen Sebelius.

            Why do you lie so much?

          • reggiec

            Thomas Jefferson

            Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

          • jimrussell

            We have a Constitution Jefferson contributed significantly, amended and interpreted for over 230 years. The bottom line being if you don’t agree muster enough votes to change it it’s the law. If you can’t deal with it. Without law you only anarchy I don’t want to only go 70 MPH on my Harley, I can go faster, but will have to pay the price if caught and have to deal with it.

          • reggiec

            First of all what the Bundys and others dealing with the BLM face are not laws, they are regulations unilaterally promulgated by BLM.
            How about this one? BLM requires a BLM Right of Way (ROW) for any road crossing BLM controlled property to access private property. This ROW is attached to the deed for the private property.
            When this shows up in a title search for a sale or refinancing almost every bank in the US will refuse to finance. Because of past egregious actions by the BLM. Banks do not trust BLM to keep the ROW open. I have been turned down by over 30 financial institutions for this reason.
            When I told BLM officials they were making my property worthless they informed me that if I felt that way and I removed all improvements and returned the land to its natural state BLM would buy it from me at a fraction of what it is worth.
            By the way the road is maintained solely by the property owner, requires the property owner to pay rent on the road and the road is open to the public.
            BLM has become an agency dedicated to driving land owners off their property.

          • Raymond Tower

            The land was not “purchased” by the federal government from the States they have stolen from. The Constitution allows the feds to purchase land with the approval of Congress “for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-yards and other needful Buildings;”
            Since none of the Constitutional criteria has been met, the land belongs to the State of Nevada.

          • jimrussell

            Maybe you should brush up on your history. Ask the Confederates how that States Right thing worked out. They got slapped down so hard a 150 years later they still haven’t snapped out of it.

          • Well Done

            0bamaspammer, get lost. We don’t need your BS here, we’ve seen it and seen it. With the present federal gov’t and it’s unmistakable efforts to dismantle America, you look the complete moron trying to tell us all miracles flow from them.

          • chamuiel

            Bundy’s family was grazing cattle on the land in 1887, long before there was a BLM.

            why do you trolls keep leaving that out.

            You must be getting paid for posting dumb crap. No one would do what you do for fr4ee.

          • jimrussell

            The court heard that “grandfather argument” and rejected it. I’d like to give Texas back to the Mexican’s under a grand father clause too,. but that’s probably not acceptable either.

          • J_in_TX

            Please show me, in the Constitution, where the Federal government has any right to claim that land. They have no Constitutional right. Just because a judge or judges ruled it doesn’t make it so. The SCOTUS also ruled Obamacare Constitutional, but it isn’t.

          • jimrussell

            With an ignorant response like that you have to be from Texas.

          • J_in_TX

            Typical liberal. Can’t provide facts so the next step is resorting to name calling. I’m still waiting for you to show me where the Federal government has any right to claim that land.

          • jimrussell

            There are the facts, deal with it.

            The NEVADA Constitution’s Enabling Act

            Following the Mexican-American War, the United States
            obtained the Great Basin, along with a large portion of the west stretching
            from Texas to the Pacific Ocean. In 1861, Nevada became its own territory on the stipulation in its enabling act
            that it “must disclaim all rights to unappropriated public land in
            Nevada.”

            Nevada’s Constitution further reflects the enabling act:
            “That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States.”

            Case closed.

          • J_in_TX

            The case isn’t closed, no matter how much you and your liberal buddies like Harry Reid would like it to be. The U.S. Constitution states all new states will have the same rights as those established upon ratification of the Constitution. Therefore, when Nevada became a state (not a territory) it would have the same rights as any other state. This also applies to lands within the state. Therefore, all lands held by the Federal government at the time of statehood revert to the state. The Federal government must then buy any land from the state and is restricted by the Constitution as to the limited uses of that land.

          • jimrussell

            Read the Nevada Constitution. Yes the case is closed. You may want the sun to come up in the west tomorrow morning but in FACT it is not. In FACT by their own Constitution Nevada rejected ALL claims to their land and succeeded it to the United States of America. Case closed.

          • jimrussell

            Nevada NEVER owned any land. Why? Because the Nevada Constitution says so. Nevada Constitution Enabling Act.

            Case closed

          • jimrussell

            Nevada Constitution Enabling Clause

            “That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they
            forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying
            within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and
            entire disposition of the United States.

            Again Nevada NEVER owned any land.
            Case closed

          • jimrussell

            It’s the Nevada Constitution Enabling Clause

            “That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they
            forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying
            within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and
            entire disposition of the United States.”

            Nevada NEVER owned any land
            Case closed.

          • jimrussell

            The Nevada Constitution Enabling Clause.
            “That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they
            forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying
            within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and
            entire disposition of the United States.

            Case closed.

          • J_in_TX

            I just love it when a liberal says case closed, or period or it’s settled science as in global warming (which is really selective science). I read yesterday where representatives from several western states are meeting to discuss reclaiming their lands from the Federal government. Guess the case isn’t closed after all.

          • jimrussell

            This case is closed, period. These western states goofs would have more luck holding up their hand to hold back the wind. This I’m sure are the same Republican bunch that believes the sun goes around the earth and never drive over the horizon for fear of falling off the earth.

          • J_in_TX

            Once again resorting to name calling. That’s always the last stance of liberals. I guess it just sucks to be you and have to resort to name calling and tantrums. I actually work for a living and have way too much to do to continue to carry on this conversation any longer with an immature name caller that has no knowledge of the people he is calling names. Case closed.

          • jimrussell

            If you’re looking for something to do, read a book.

          • LMW51

            Why should we suffer the loss of the millions owed by Federal Tax Agents who have not paid their taxes and just got bonuses?

            Why should we suffer the loss of the millions that are sent to one address where dozens of illegal immigrants are using that address to illegally file tax returns and then sending that money to Mexico?

            Why should we suffer the loss of the millions lost to fraud in the Food Stamp and Welfare system?

            I’d much rather suffer the loss of Bundy’s 1 million that is owed primarily because the BLM went back on its original deal putting a desert turtle ahead of the rights of US citizens and the beef that feeds us.

          • jimrussell

            Why? Very easy, because it’s the law. If you don’t comply with the law it’s just mindless anarchy and you will be fined or jailed. Simple, the dimwitted are not the arbiters of what laws they will or will not obey they are just dimwitted.

          • LMW51

            Like the employees of the IRS who just got bonuses despite the fact that THEY had not paid their income taxes?

            Its time for Americans to wake up to the fact that while we are allowing the politicians to divide us with political propaganda there is only one real divide in this nation – the “connected” and the “un-connected”.

            Those government workers who don’t pay their taxes (and there are thousands of them in the IRS alone) aren’t going to jail because they are among the “connected”. They aren’t “rich”; they aren’t a group of minority citizens – it is not “affirmative” action – that is not why they get more protection from the law than we do, it is who they know and who they work for that protects them.

            Those in Unions don’t get a better guarantee of a pension when they retire because they are rich or a minority class – they get better pensions because they are “connected”.

            There are two America’s – but it isn’t what the politicians are telling us – its those who work or are connected in some way to the politicians in DC as One America and those of us out here with no connections is the other America. And it is only the second America where the laws of the nation are applied.

          • jimrussell

            I agree the law needs to be applied. Bundy the common deadbeat law breaking racist should be as the law prescribes arrested, thrown in jail waiting for trial. Bundy is the perfect example to bring back public horse whippings.

          • LMW51

            Unless of course you work for the Federal government, then you will get a bonus for owing 3.5 billion dollars in back taxes right?

            People need to wake up to what the truth is about the “two America’s” – it is not about rich and poor or about the racial divides – those are just tactics to deflect our attention and further divide us.

            It is about those who work for the Federal Government in whatever capacity getting a free ride on not paying their taxes and the People whom they supposedly serve going to jail or having their assets frozen or their cattle killed and buried in mass graves….

          • Raymond Tower

            The Constitution trumps any act that does not meet the Constitutional muster. Read Article 1, Section 8, clause 17.

          • jimrussell

            Amateur interpretations of the Constitution are the ultimate self delusional fantasy.

    • beeta

      Dickhead Obama lover… It is against the constitution for the Fed . Gov to own any state land that is not part of a military base… The Fed. has over stepped its boundry’s and has made laws to suit themselves. Time for the People to take our states back from the FEDS. NOW!

      • jimrussell

        You have got to be from the moon to believe that illusion.

        • AwakenedAngryAmerican

          The government that you see as existing is an illusion that people like you allow to exist. The only jurisdiction that the Corporate US Government d/b/a USA is the district of Columbia. But your belief system has been programmed to encompass the entire country.

        • Well Done

          Wow, an official 0bamaspammer without the wits to shut up when he’s told where he’s wrong. Just another day…

    • AwakenedAngryAmerican

      At first I thought he was referring to the unconstitutional military occupation and intimidation of American Citizens by a corporate controlled armed military on state land. But realized he was just a dude with a keyboard and internet connection who wished he lived in Stalin Russia.
      Enjoy serving the elite if you happen to be one of those lucky enough to not be eliminated. Your dream won’t be wasted if chosen to serve.

    • Well Done

      The 0bamaspammers are definitely opening up new avenues of heinous immorality. Claiming that the prisoners are the real tough guys? That’s never gonna go away.

    • Dandee

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      You get the down vote of the day

    • Raconteur Duck

      So, you are saying that veterans who were awarded the Purple Heart and Silver Star are “amateur toy solder pinheads “… You should educate yourself on who you are insulting before you show everyone just what a risible, little prick you are.
      I’ll bet you believe that the SCOTUS is the final judge on interpretation of the Constitution and that We the People are given rights by the Constitution. You are the moron.

      • jimrussell

        If they are stupid enough to think they are actually a part of a group that poses more than a laughable nuisance to the real military, absolutely. You’ve been watching too much TV. The non delusional and those that have been there know better.

        • Raconteur Duck

          Why would they offer any threat to the military? Is Obama considering deploying the armed forces against American citizens? That would be a big mistake.
          BTW, how many combat vets do you think would respond to unconstitutional use of the military against American civilians? Who do you think trained the current military? What makes you think American soldiers will attack the very people who trained and bled with them?
          Your faith in the omnipotence of the government is risible and typical. it’s also obvious you have never been in the Armed Forces.

          • jimrussell

            Actually we already have addressed that very possibility, it was call the Civil War. Armed and unarmed bands threatening civil order have been put down by the military several times in U S history. These Nevada nitwits with their 1st grade understanding of history and kindergarten interpretation of the U S Constitution to the contrary. By the way, I know better.

          • Raconteur Duck

            So, why not answer the questions? You really think the armed forces will be deployed against American civilians and that they will fire on the families of their fellow soldiers? You are full of crap and know nothing of the military. You are nothing more than an ignorant liberal dreaming of socialism.

    • mogul264

      When the Feds decide to ‘reinterpret’ the laws. or to issue regulations to whatever they favor, and the SC is in the liberals’ pocket, it’s hard to always be ‘in compliance’. This would include the BLM arbitrarily deciding that state/county land is really ‘Fed’ land! What doesn’t help is the feckless state and county officials laying belly up before the Feds, begging ‘approval’.

      • jimrussell

        By the crystal clear Nevada Constitutional and repeated court looses Bundy has no cause or case. He’s a common deadbeat in violation of the law. Just let things calm down, pick him up and throw the idiot in jail for trial. Bing, Bang, Boom grandstand over.

  • Doc HD-Rider

    Senators and congress all talk no action they are as guilty as everyone else in this matter and many many others

    • AwakenedAngryAmerican

      Actually more guilty.

  • maskedcommenter

    Killing animals…….nice going Obummer.

  • Marvintyson

    “New States will be added on an equal footing, in every respect, with existing States”. Equal in every respect means that since the Federal government owns no land on Massachusetts or Connecticut, they don’t own it in Nevada either!
    And, Article 1, Sec. 8, clause 17 lists the specific purposes for which the Federal government can purchase land within a State: “Forts, Magazines, Armories, Dockyards, and other needful buildings”. Did you notice “tortoise sanctuary” and “Federal grazing land” aren’t on that list!!!

    • AwakenedAngryAmerican

      Show this man respect. He is an American. He is awake.

  • WILLIAM H. ETHERIDGE

    so where is PETA in killing these cattle and bulls??????

    • CarlaMcDonald

      On the ranch. If you will go to Bundy Ranch, on line, or FaceBook, you will see the graves that the bull dozers they brought in dug and buried them in. Some were shot from helicopter.Bulls, mothers and calves, 95 degree weather. You don’t have to be a rancher, or a cowboy to know this is a disaster in the making. There are several photos, if you are in to seeing flies and dead cattle.

      • Josef Roesler

        What does that have to do with the question you answered?

        • John Campbell

          Ya, I was wondering that myself.