Fellow rancher’s viral letter explains so much about why ranchers support ‘hero’ Bundy

Photo Credit: egoswick blogspot

Photo Credit: egoswick blogspot
These are some of the many photographs I ( Emily, ‘The Rancher’s Daughter’) have taken at ropings, brandings, or simply just out my back door. I am the daughter of a 5th generation cattle rancher. Note: Photo does not depict anyone named in this article.

With debate raging over whether the Bureau of Land Management is overstepping its authority in stopping rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle from grazing on public land, one of Bundy’s neighbors offered to settle the question.

In an open letter, Bundy’s neighbor, Kena Lytle Gloeckner, explained why ranchers are supporting Bundy. Her letter, which has been posted on numerous blogs, said:

There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not. What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher’s grazing permit it says the following: “You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due.” The “mandatory” terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc. The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this “contract” agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment.

In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher’s permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non-ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away. Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow – – not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price.

If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are “suspended,” but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of “suspended” AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy singlehandedly took a stand against. Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero.

A letter from Bundy’s daughter can also be read on “Stand With Cliven and Carol Bundy.”

See also: Megyn Kelly: Chilling exclusive behind the scenes look at Nevada ranch showdown

Cheryl Carpenter Klimek

Cheryl Carpenter Klimek has been a political consultant handling public affairs, political campaigns and PAC management for nearly 20 years.


  • http://traveloguefortheuniverse.blogspot.com/ Mary Gerdt

    Having a pro-property rights opinion is a matter of perspective. We own part of my husband’s 4th generation farm. His ancestors would shudder if they knew the town of Monkton, Vermont tried to seize our property for $10K in taxes, fees, lawyers fees, advertising for Vermont State and local property taxes 9 months late. The town never talked to me, a flatlander wife only here 30 years. I am on the deed.The sale was narrowly averted when Fred paid up. I have not been able to affect this abyssmal practice except by airing it out every chance I get. This incident, although contentious and painful for many, shines the light on the same movement that tried to acquire my property. My blood, sweat & tears are in this land. We fought for so long the elements, the payments, working off the farm, the land fallow, can’t afford to improve it. Thanks to everyone who values property rights.

    • Susan

      I’m glad you caught it in time to save your house and land. But Bundy’s situation is very different. He is ripping off the American people by not paying his fair share that 16,000 other ranchers pay and get the same price for beef as he. He’s a multi millionaire and is living off the largess of the American people. The fee is only $1.35 (AUM) and it costs us millions to manage the cattle and we only get a small portion of that back in fees. The American people have owned that land since 1848. His family didn’t show up there until 1876. It’s not his property. It’s ours.

      • Gunney57

        The daily White House talking points have been served!!

        • PirateWoman

          Reality has a liberal bias.

          • Gunney57

            Reality and liberalism have nothing in common. It takes some longer than others to figure that out. Better than twenty years for myself ( I.E. grow up ). Some never do. How about the fact the President thought he could “deal” with Putin. Liberal denial at it’s best!

          • PirateWoman

            I fail to see how your comment is in any way related to the topic of this thread.
            Thanks for playing.

          • Gunney57

            As a liberal would. Just playing in your backyard.

          • Gunney57


      • bloodyspartan

        Are you stupid or on their payroll.
        If you read the above and do not understand .
        Go back to school.

        FOOL or QUISLING

      • TenMegaton


      • Baco

        Wow! I wish Disqus would bring back the viewing of “downvotes”, I bet yours would trip the breaker…

      • dj23

        He’s not ripping me off! I’m glad he’s in no-mans land living and making a living. How do you feel about the Govt/BLM (unknown bureaucrats) effectively shutting down 49/52 ranchers businesses without compensation (ie stealing) by “suspending their rights” so they don’t have to compensate them. let’s say you own a grocery store. the F&D admin comes along and says you can only sell Milk, Bread and Lettuce. We are effectively suspending your license to sell anything else. Go ahead, sign on the dotted line and we’ll let you keep your business. After you sign, you will have to pay us protection money and we won’t let the competitors sell milk, bread and lettuce. Bigger question why do we have unelected bureaucracies with so much power and control…Think CARB….10 people no one knows their names and they have a huge control over almost every car manufacturer in the world and what they sell.

      • Brian Robinson

        Fine then I’ll give him my part of the land to graze on! 16,000 other ranchers pay? Don’t think there are that many ranchers in that state. So you know his finances and his net worth? I’m sure you’re a cattle rancher.

  • Matt Dunkle

    So, …. Just how many head of tortoises can Clive run on that BLM land, and how many steaks can you get from each tortoise??

    • dj23

      Now you’re talking. If I can’t eat a steak, maybe a turtle burger. After all, I am a vegetarian.

  • SeriouslyNow

    So the republican party is now in favor of universal rent control… or just for cowboys. I’m so confused right now… maybe they just hate turtles?

    • RightUnite

      This was never about turtles. Do your research before before commenting and making a bigger fool of yourself.

  • Forest Black

    The herky-jerky processes of technological advance are destroyed when those who preach from collectivism’s altar attempt to direct that everything be made equally available to everyone.

  • Jimmy Lin

    Maybe Rosa Park should have taken a stand with snipers and fire arms aimed at the passengers and the cop.

    I think some people confused taking a stand with threatening law enforcements officers with deadly force. The moment you pull out a gun, you have already lost all moral highground. Other than the delusional far right, good luck getting other people to see it your way after that confrontation.

    • Tracker

      no one “pulled a gun”. Any guns in civilian hands were there for self defense, (yano that pesky second amendment thingy that the federal government wants to permanently override)

    • dj23

      Yep, all those Fed Snipers, lost moral ground the moment they pulled out their guns and aimed them at American citizens.

    • RightUnite

      Name me one person who pulled a gun on any of these illegal mercenaries? You can’t so you need to step back and stfu! Unless you have verifiable proof STFU!

    • Brian Robinson

      I think your analogy is a little backwards but nice try!

    • NicholasK

      lol nice logic…
      lets all be clear people, the only people that should have guns are government agents. They have superior morality and only benevolent intentions. They would NEVER do anything wrong, criminal, or evil. However, the cops do induce a lot of suicides when pulling guns of people.

      Are people still too blind to see the reason the founders of this nation included the 2nd amendment? The BLM was in the wrong and they knew it.

      I know that statement will be met with cognitive dissonance by all the morons on this site, but someday you might care to explore factual property jurisdictions based on federal summaries.

  • motownmutt

    Besides the question of the rightness or wrongness of the rancher, there is the question of the rightness or wrongness in the BLM’s use of force without coordinating with local officials in compliance with 43 U.S.C. section 1733.


  • diplome

    There is nothing ethical about what Bundy is doing. If he wanted to “take a stand” he would simply not use our land…but his “stand” is simply “I’ll freeload, not pay anything, and threaten law enforcement personnel if they try to enforce the laws”. Not surprising from a fellow who doesn’t even recognize our Country’s government.

    • ConservRedneck

      Your right, there is nothing ethical about Taxation without Representation. The Federal Government has NO business claiming land for its own.

      • Cindy

        Ever hear of the Louisiana Purchase? the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT bought land from France – the founding father”s gave the federal government that right. In addition, one cannot claim ‘constitutional rights’ as Bundy does, if one claims he does not believe in the federal government.

        • ConservRedneck

          You are correct….hmmm, how many States formed because of that?

          • Cindy

            irrelevant – the gov’t bought the land ‘for its own use’ which was to expand the borders of the United States

          • ConservRedneck

            There is an old say… “Never argue with an idiot; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”.

          • Cindy

            Funny how you are attempting to insult me because I’m sure you know your argument is invalid. To help you out, the Federal Government does have the right to claim land ( Article 1, Section 2 or the Nevada Constitution) – so what do you base your claim on when you say, “the Federal Government has NO business claiming land for its own”? If you cannot back up your reply, then please keep your insults to yourself; you have no power to offend me.

    • lookingdp

      your an idiot.

      • georgewbusted

        Its “you’re an idiot”. You’re is a contraction of “you are”. “Your” is possessive and means belongs to you. Your poor language skills ironically prove that you’re an idiot.

    • John Campbell

      Another outrageous lie. Did you even bother to read what that letter said? Or did you just dismiss it out of hand because it didn’t fit the DNC (Politburo) narrative to cover for Harry Reid?

    • NicholasK

      Where do your shares of your land go? Why don’t you send Bundy an invoice for your 1/300,000,000th of the forage value of that land. I honestly expect he would send you a check.

  • ronbro4042 .

    I have seen how rancher’s cattle destroy BLM land up close and personal when I lived in Idaho and was an avid fisherman and hunter. The cattle destroyed pristine streams for wild trout habitat and encroached, drove out game animals from their wild lands. These great ranchers pay a fraction of what it normally costs for grazing land rights and let their cattle go helter skelter all over the land. Bundy had cattle graze and destroy for years and then reaped the profits by selling his cattle every year and becoming a multi millionaire. No pity for this parasite and others who claim they have a rough life allowing their cattle to graze for pennies and have to adhere to stringent regulations.

    • georgewbusted

      Well said.

    • John Campbell

      What a load of utter feldergarb! Liar wouldn’t even begin to describe this. It must take a serious total loss of conscience or any sense of shame to put such garbage to print.

      • ronbro4042 .

        I do not see any words of wisdom from you John except criticism. Before you criticize give your solution or view then we can understand, otherwise your comments are useless and childish.

        • John Campbell

          I’ve given the answer for this so many times it would make my dogs head spin for retyping it. Start with prosecution of the BLM. If you have to ask why then you are the one not paying attention to this story and simply running your mouth just to hear your gums flap.

          Words of wisdom, reread my post.

          You’re still a liar and until you can actually put to print why the BLM needs to face the Justice Department, and why they have not yet done so, don’t come back and try to deflect with even more garbage for someone elses “solution”. Try instead actually knowing what you’re talking about.

          • ronbro4042 .

            A reply that was expected from you. More criticism, angry words and no facts.

          • NicholasK

            I think we will see a lawsuit soon. This story has drawn a lot of attention and there are a lot of folks that know how to do just that – and will win.

  • Don Strevel

    Having lived in NV for decades, these cattle guys are being pushed around by the Fed. The Fed has no problem in going on your property any damned time they choose, doing what they want when they want, and blaming you for everything including the rise and set of the sun. The Fed is the glove for the Sierra Club and their confederates are the hand in that glove. I love animals tortoises and bulls, dogs and chickens. I can’t stand cats. These cattle and the tortoises have coexisted for hundreds of years. The problem is the tree huggers and their maniacal final decision to make you eat vegetables only by killing off the ranchers. England did this to the early settlers. I disagree with the gov’t and ewhat they are doing. I urge you to communicate with your congressman and in full throated freedom exercise your freedom of speech. Do not threaten, just tell them that you think it is not right and must stop. Harry Reid needs to go back to Searchlight and work in a mine. Getting his hands dirty will be good for his heart and soul. He can keep the millions upon untold millions of non-salary pay he made as a Senator.

  • John Campbell

    My God! No wonder Clive Bundy stood up to them! No wonder as well why the Nevada court has accused the BLM of federal racketeering violations under RICO. Holder is sitiing on this. We must demand that those investigations take place now, not when Holder thinks he can no longer get away covering for his traitorous buddies.

    This is downright EVIL! I’m ashamed to have a government attempt to pull such a stunt in my name. Any court case in this had better not have the government claiming to represent the “The People of” versus Bundy because I am the people and to attempt to prosecute Bundy like this in no may represents me.

    • NicholasK

      The USA is a private, for profit corporation that exists only in the 10 square miles of washington dc. Unless you are a member of the private corporation (congress assembled), you wont be listed as a litigant :)

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