Harry Reid connected to Bundy cattle ranch, according to purged documents

Amid the standoff between Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the federal government, reports are growing that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s little-known ties to a Chinese solar energy giant could have played a role.

Reid, D-Nev., and his oldest son, Rory, a former chairman of the Clark County, Nev., County Commission, were both deeply involved in a plan by ENN Energy Group to build a huge solar farm in southern Nevada, according to a Reuters report from August 2012.

Land the Bundy family has been using for cattle ranching was getting in the way of that project, according to documents formerly posted on the Bureau of Land Management’s government website but since removed, according to Infowars.

It has also been reported that this particular deal is no longer on the table, but was part of the story in 2012.

The acting director of the Bureau of Land Management is Neil Kornze, a former senior policy advisor for Reid.

Here is a screenshot of one crucial document from Google’s cache.

The most interesting line might be:

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle.”

The federal government’s story so far is that the whole showdown was necessary for the protection of gopher tortoises.

Here’s how The Blaze’s Dana Loesch puts it in “The Real Story of the Bundy Ranch”:

BLM has proven that they’ve a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they’ve had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development. Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area. If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor.

From the document purged from the BLM website, it’s clear there were more than tortoises at stake.

There was a $5 billion foreign energy project in the works, with Reid and his son directly involved.

And there was an American citizen and cattle rancher standing in the way.

Now, federal agents armed with guns and the full power of the federal government have engaged.

What could go wrong?

UPDATE: This story has been updated to reflect that the ENN Energy Group proposal is no longer on the table. 

 

Sorry, Ms. Lerner, Trey Gowdy nailed it:
‘Brought BOOM to the ROOM!’

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Joe Saunders

Joe Saunders, a 25-year newspaper veteran, is a staff writer and editor for BizPac Review who lives in Tallahassee and covers capital and Florida politics. Email Joe at jpjsaunders@gmail.com.
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Joe Saunders, a 25-year newspaper veteran, is a staff writer and editor for BizPac Review who lives in Tallahassee and covers capital and Florida politics. Email Joe at jpjsaunders@gmail.com.

  • SusieQ

    Hey everybody in Nevada keep electing this old cheat. Not only has he been a detriment to anything getting done in the US senate, costing everyone money, now he doing his own state over, will some people ever learn. A low down dirty cheat has no qualms cheating everyone, he’d sell his grandma for a buck and a little more power.

    • phred01

      When people don’t take out the trash, they deserve the smell. In this case innocent people are affected.

      • Giovanna Sabella

        Kinda crude, but well said and it tells it all.

      • Mary Beth Washburn

        Yes they are and rather than point your finger at Nevada, you may want to take a look at your own involvement.

        • phred01

          My involvement????

          • Stryder51

            That made no sense, did it? lol

          • Mark R DeForest

            you know, you secretly run the government

        • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

          Mary…you’re a tool…

          • phred01

            she can’t help it, she is a partial abortion.

          • The RightStuff

            Lol… May have been a bit much under the circumstances but funny as hell. You must have been murder on the playground at lunch time as a kid.

          • nick quinlan

            What a shitty thing to say phred, congrats

        • LittleRoot_48

          You need to elaborate on that because you make no sense whatsoever.

        • Guest

          May you lost me.

      • pyrodice

        If this sort of thing keeps up, the smell will change to gunpowder.

    • working4change

      The turd is a lier and aiding in killing this nation. .. hes a TRAITOR!

      • Myrtle Linder

        In anything dirty Holder will have his fingers deeply embedded in it. This is a major crime in Nevada and guess who is th leading criminal!!!

        • lovinspoonful

          Good old Harry. Along with a few other felonies.

      • centermass1

        He’s just one more POS that needs to be arrested, tried and publicly executed.

        • James Scott

          Don’t you have to be charged with a crime first?

          • Cory Michael Findlay

            He is a traitor

          • FriendofThom

            Traitor?! HAHAHAHA!

          • curmudgeon

            And you are a terminally stupid idiot. Hahahah!

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            tool…

          • James Scott

            Would you mind identifying the foreign army he helped during combat, or is this just another delusion?

          • JoJo58

            You don’t have to help a foreign army to be a traitor. Why not try educating yourself instead of parroting whatever Mother Jones or MSNBC tells you to.

          • James Scott

            Legally defined, a traitor is one who “wages war against his own country or consciously or purposely acts to aid its enemies.” Cite specific examples, please, not wild speculation.

          • jime1

            You forgot the words OR STATE in you definition demonstrating you have selective memory like most liberals.

          • James Scott

            You won’t answer the question, which means you’re a liar, like most conservatives.

          • debbie

            Liberals lie !!!!!!!!

          • James Scott

            We’re only trying to communicate with you in ways you’re accustomed to.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            pathetic attempt…

          • cruzuzias

            a conservative trying to communicate with a liberal is physically impossible for conservatives are usually fact based, real world based. Liberals exist in a fantasy world that exists only in their minds REAL WORLD go into the archives of Nevada newspapers and read how he stole his last election.

          • Brian Robinson

            Yes we are accustom to Liberal lies but you didn’t have to point it out we know that already.

          • postman7z

            Reid was also in on the deal that helped North Korea developed their nuclear weapons during the Bill Clinton years. Or have you conveniently forgot about that too?

          • James Scott

            I recall, in the early ’90s, our agreeing to help them construct two light-water reactors for civilian use, if that’s what you’re referring to, but that deal wasn’t solidified until Clinton was out of office, and Donald Rumsfeld was the principle in that deal, not Harry Reid.

          • postman7z

            at the bequest of the Demorats, it was there doing, period.

          • James Scott

            I don’t believe George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld did ANYTHING “at the behest of the Democrats.”

          • ALee

            kill em with facts James, nice one

          • phred01

            Liberals don’t lie, they are just too ignorant, or blind to know the truth, and they believe anything there leaders tell them.

          • postman7z

            No you are wrong liberals/progressive leaders and spokes-people lie all the time!

          • phred01

            I stand corrected.:)

          • Pamela Jean Myers Richert

            I take offense to your comment. I consider myself to be on the conservative side, and sir I assure I am no liar. Everyone that knows me says I am one of the most honest people they have ever met.

          • James Scott

            Well, then, you certainly can’t be a conservative.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            then you must not be a hack then…oh wait…nm…

          • phred01

            jimmy, jimmy, jimmy why don’t you go back to something you do best, being a butt plug.

          • Billie Jacobs

            James Scott: you wouldn’t know a conservative if your life depended on it! Most likely, you believe that anyone who opposes your views is a conservative!

          • James Scott

            There’s more of a definition necessary than that. However, I’m pretty good at recognizing them when I hear them.

          • phred01

            you couldn’t recognize something if it came an pulled your panties down.

          • James Scott

            I think I can recognize a child incapable of critical thinking ability.

          • RA

            This guy is a troll and is doing this to incite people. He has no intention of having a legitimate discussion.

          • debbie

            James Scott, A troll is what you are LMAO !!! Nasty, Nasty , Troll !!!

          • postman7z

            and a prole

          • RA

            I know one thing that is true and I would like to see you refute with your BS obama sycophantic rant.
            OBAMA WON THE LIAR OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR 2013! He said 36 times “if you like your doctor or health plan you can keep them period!”. He is a liar and a criminal. He will be charge once the midterm elections are over and the majority of crooks and 1d1ots like you denying the truth and facts are removed.

          • James Scott

            Obama did not lie, your insurance company did — and you may find that rational Americans are too numerous for a few lunatics to “remove.”

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            perpetuating a lie still makes you a liar…hack…

          • James Scott

            Then I understand your anger against all those Republican-owned insurance companies that canceled your plan and your doctors.

          • BILLYDEVO

            And why did they cancel?Because they did not include the new mandates that Obamacare requried.

          • James Scott

            That’s still not the same as Obama canceling your insurance. Your carrier and your doctor made the decision — however, there is absolutely nothing saying you can’t still go to any doctor you want. Just pay cash.

          • BILLYDEVO

            How is it not.Due to Obamacare which made those plans illegal,remember its the law,they could not provide those plans any longer.So to defend turning everything upside and spending 2 trillion to do it your answer is just pay cash on top of having to pay the tax/penalty .You libs are not to bright.

          • James Scott

            You conservatives aren’t very consistent. Where’s all the “personal responsibility” you guys always harp about? If you want medical care, pay for it out of your own pocket. Why should MY premiums have to go towards mitigating YOUR expenses?

          • BILLYDEVO

            Are you serious with this.So we are mandated by the government to have insurance or pay a tax,which you supported and now you lecture about personal responsibility.

          • James Scott

            Just pointing out your hypocrisy. Why should MY insurance payments have to go towards paying YOUR bills?

          • BILLYDEVO

            Nice try Saul I pay my own way.It is funny hearing a lib complain about paying for others .To you its ok for everyone else but not for you .Every post just shows you to be the hypocrit you are

          • James Scott

            You are fortunate to be wealthy enough to pay your own way and not to need health insurance.

          • LittleRoot_48

            How do YOU know how wealthy anyone else on here is? I’ve had health insurance all my life and paid for it myself. I can’t afford to pay for mine and all the government-dependent leeches out there.

          • James Scott

            Well, make up your mind. Do you pay your own way, or do you have health insurance where costs are shared and ameliorated between policyholders? That’s the whole idea — if you’re in an auto accident and run up $500,000 in costs, the cost is amortized so YOU don’t have to pay it all.

          • LittleRoot_48

            Well, then I do both. I pay my own insurance premiums and I have, on occasion, paid for services in cash.

          • James Scott

            Wonderful, but if you had a catastrophe — and I hope you never do — and had to have insurance pay that $500,000 bill, would you then term yourself a “leech” because the rest of us had to help carry you through our premiums?

          • Brian Robinson

            You’re not very bright are you?

          • 3nowinddancer3

            What about the premiums that you already paid. Insurance companies make so much money from premiums that everyone pays in. Leech :One who clings to another for personal advantage. If you already have health insurance you can keep it. Lie

          • James Scott

            It’s built-in for insurance companies to lie. You should be used to it by now. However, even the premiums you pay in, invested as they typically are in Treasuries and some corporate bonds, aren’t enough to pay your bills in a catastrophic case, and policies generally have caps that are reached all too quickly.

          • postman7z

            Obama lied people died !!

          • James Scott

            You seem so complacent in your ignorance, who am I to try and disturb you?

          • Billie Jacobs

            Have it you’re way, James! Just let us know what’s at the end of the Yellow Brick Road!! Also, please let us know how you fared at the OK Corral!!!!

          • James Scott

            I already know what’s at the end of the road without the ACA, and it isn’t pleasant.

          • postman7z

            Obama lied and people died, and are still dying, you cannot deny that it is not from Obamacare.

          • James Scott

            Of course I can, because it isn’t.

          • pawanna

            He doesn’t – he is just a troll with nothing else to do….

          • CAFM

            James, it is BECAUSE government is involved that healthcare if so astronomically expensive. Same with education. Everything the government touches becomes more and more expensive. Just look back over its history. Look at how they also have spent trillions fight wars on poverty and drugs as well. We have more poor today due to government interference. Drug problem is worse today due to war on drugs. Government has the exact opposite of the MIdas touch and they KNOW it. It is not about solving problems; it is about growing power and control. Government creates the problems, then offers ridiculous “solutions”. Please think carefully and you should be able to see this.

          • James Scott

            I see it the other way. It’s because of the involvement of the insurance industry and the insurance defense industry that healthcare is more and more expensive. THAT’S where the “power and control” is, and it’s time to take it away from them.

          • debbie

            I pay my own too. I had insurance, but it was cancelled . My friend that was my insurance agent told me why I HAD to be dropped. I’d rather pay my own medical bills than to help this POS Forced insurance succeed. I’ll pay my fine, IF I get one. No biggie ! Makes me feel all good inside that I don’t go along with the sheep.

          • James Scott

            Your friend lied.

          • postman7z

            If the plan didn’t meet Obama’s rules then the Insurance company was forced to drop them and that’s one of the facts about Obamacare Jack and Obama lied and people died

          • James Scott

            The insurance companies weren’t “forced.” They decided all on their own. Any plan that didn’t meet requirements could easily have been changed.

          • JD Brown

            What world are you living in? Fantasy land?
            ACA mandated that all old plans must meet certain new provisions. If they didn’t, they had to be altered or cancelled.

          • James Scott

            Correct, and there is nothing preventing the insurance carriers from altering them.

          • Buck

            …And the dumbass.

          • Scott Smith

            Liberals don’t even pay their taxes BillyDevo. Sure they have no problem passing new taxes, for others. Their leaders just don’t pay what they pass. Holder among that list of those who cheated.

          • phred01

            why should conservatives have to pay for pregnancy when a person has no kids, or abortion when it is against a persons faith?

          • pawanna

            isn’t it ironic that Obamacare trying to force an order of Nuns to include abortion and Birth Control in their healthcare plans…..

          • LittleRoot_48

            We might ask the same question of you. Why should OUR payments have to go towards paying YOUR bills?

          • James Scott

            Because that’s how insurance works.

          • Brian Robinson

            You are an a$$! What do you think Obamacare is? That’s exectly what is happening. “We” to include you, are paying to cover those that did not have insurance.

          • debbie

            James you’re a dumb ass, that is what this is all about. Working people paying for people that don’t work. If you truly are paying into Obummercare, you are paying for someone else. You ding a ling !!!

          • Linda Prince Johnson

            Well mine is probably going toward paying YOURS.

          • James Scott

            It probably did, if you had insurance through Blue Cross or any of its myriad subsidiaries.

          • Linda Prince Johnson

            I hope you are truly more in need than I am because I’m definitely not rich.

          • James Scott

            That is the philosophy behind insurance. You pay into a huge pool, which then pays insureds’ medical bills that they couldn’t hope to pay on their own. However, our income last year was only about $10,000, so we don’t have ANY insurance now.

          • postman7z

            what are they doing now?

          • LittleRoot_48

            Personal responsibility involves paying for your own insurance. Why should MY premiums have to go towards paying for government-dependent leeches’ expenses?

          • James Scott

            For the same reason that part of everyone else’s premiums go towards paying YOUR expenses. The whole concept of insurance is amortization of risk and expense.

          • Billie Jacobs

            It is personal responsibility to avoid the con game that the Affordable Care Act is anything but affordable!! If the alternative is mandated government insurance with no competition then one is at the mercy of the medical industry who will see the Government as a cash cow and if what the government is willing to pay doesn’t cover the expenses incurred, guess who’s left holding the bag!!!
            REMEMBER THE OLD WARNING: I’M FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND I’M HERE TO HELP YOU!!!!!! YEAH RIGHT!!

          • James Scott

            Well, it’s dropped my premium from $2,500 a month to around $700 a month, so I’ll stick with the ACA.

          • postman7z

            you must be getting subsidies then

          • James Scott

            I don’t think we qualify.

          • JD Brown

            $2500 a month? For health insurance for your family. My family of 5 health care premiums was $19000 for a whole year. And it was great insurance. Mine works out to $1582.00 a month roughly.
            So how many are on your plan and what type of health care plan did you have?

          • James Scott

            Blue Cross, with a household of five, including my pre-existing back condition and high blood pressure.

          • Roberta Welch

            you are such a stupid liberal your payments like everyone elses pay for abortion and illegals to get obamacare what do you think of that and you have to get obomacare but muslums don’t

          • James Scott

            Please learn to spell.

          • postman7z

            That is what Obamacare is designed for, forcing the young healthy people (and other healthy people) paying many thousand of dollars a year for insurance they probably never need or use to support an aging population who do use a lot of healthcare.

          • James Scott

            That’s what ALL private insurance is designed for. Nothing new in that regard in Obamacare. Risks and costs are amortized across the board.

          • LittleRoot_48

            His healthcare fiasco is the reason for these cancellations. Many doctors are leaving the profession because of it.

          • James Scott

            The profession will survive just fine without them.

          • pawanna

            oh yea – pay cash and pay the fine too? – what a ingenious idea….

          • James Scott

            “‘…an ingenious idea.’” In English, words beginning with a vowel generally take “an,” not “a.”

          • pawanna

            not even a typo o is acceptable to you – you are nothing more than a NARCISIST…

          • James Scott

            I find it difficult to take seriously anyone who can’t even speak their native language.

          • pawanna

            NARCISIST…. just like I said – troll – wondering around from one topic to another to prove just how smart your are – but, the only one you impress is yourself…. done with you Jack…. get some help

          • James Scott

            Perhaps you mean “narcissist.”

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Perhaps he means sniveling cretin?

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Always the same thing with you dolts. Liberals never miss a chance to disparage someone’s spelling or grammar. Too bad that’s the only intelligent comment your brain can manage.

          • James Scott

            As I said, I find it difficult to trust the judgement of those who can’t even speak or write their native language. It indicates a fairly low intelligence.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Actually, it really doesn’t equate to intelligence, merely education in that regard, or sometimes just something as innocuous as a typo. That in itself clearly has no correlation to intelligence or reasoning. More obvious is this tactic is
            usually only employed to try and humiliate someone into backing away from stating their opinion when it differs. It happens so often on these blogs it is actually quite amusing and what it is really a sign of, is that you have run out of any meaningful talking points.

          • James Scott

            It’s distracting for those of us whose native language is English.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Seems petty that it is so bothersome.to anyone that they have to mention it at all. I can figure out what someone is trying to say even if the letters are completely jumbled or backwards and respond to the thought they are expressing, The lack of correct verbiage is irrelevant. Maybe that is a truer sign of intelligence?

          • James Scott

            The only thing it’s a sign of is ignorance, and I have to question whether someone who’s too lazy or stupid to speak and write their own language has done sufficient research on the issues they attempt to discuss.

          • postman7z

            James toilet paper is a classic liberal cod, which means bottom-dwelling fish and a bigoted snob.

          • postman7z

            Scott toilet paper keeps making assumption that everyone who posts here is a native English speaker many of us aren’t and we struggle with Americanese on a daily basis.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            It’s just a ploy they regularly use to make the poster uncomfortable or embarrassed so they will keep quiet. Most people are not bothered by that if the gist of what is being said can be understood :)

          • postman7z

            Those of us who’s second language is Americanese are always pray for the likes of James Scott, a guy named after toilet paper.

          • postman7z

            James you are such a bigot so people who second language English is less than perfect is not allowed or as you say to be taken seriously because they don’t have a full grasp of “Americanese”. Like I said you are a bigot and I’m sure a snob as well.

          • James Scott

            “Bigot” is inaccurate, although “snob” may well be reasonable.

          • postman7z

            an idiot like you cannot even stay on topic instead you are drawn of topic because of either a typo or heaven forbid someones bad grammar there is medication for your OCD problem and I am sure your $5000 bronze plan deductible will pay for the treatment. Good luck to you obamachump

          • James Scott

            We haven’t decided on a plan yet. They may ALL be too expensive, even though many are much less expensive than what we had prior to the ACA. However, as far as grammar, my company edits legal documents for insurance companies, so you’ll have to forgive me. Editing is my job, or one of them.

          • Brian Robinson

            If they didn’t they would not be in compliance with the LAW! You’re an idiot!

          • curmudgeon

            You extreme leftist true believers are pretty naive aren’t you?

          • James Scott

            At least we understand how insurance works.

          • Scott Smith

            If you actually did understand how insurance works you would not have passes The Unaffordable Care Act, you would have absorbed people into Medicare/Medicaid and would have dropped costs first. But your purpose was to change the post discussion topic. Soros calls and you jump.

          • James Scott

            I’ve worked for insurance industry for 25 years. I’ve managed to pick up a few things.

          • Scott Smith

            Lol yep, I’m sure you have. One thing you haven’t learned is how bad government programming track record is. I have worked with the poor and homeless for 25 years and know first hand how crippling social programs become.

          • James Scott

            “I’m sure you have.”

          • CAFM

            Catch 22–The insurance companies were not allowed to change even one word in their policies on pain of nullifying the contracts. Since Obamacare demanded they make certain changes, policies became null and void so to speak. Insurance companies had NO choice in the matter. However, they never should have gotten in bed in the first place with such an evil, deceitful administration. Frankly, health insurance is NOT the proper province and function of government anyway, but they did the dirty deals in the back rooms behind locked doors and here we are.

          • James Scott

            I’d rather have healthcare within the purview of the government than of the insurance companies.

          • postman7z

            Government the lies, cheats and steals from and nothing you can do about it at least we can take an insurance company to court. Threaten the government with a law suite and you will end with the Lous Lerners of the IRS looking up your butt instead of the Doctor.

          • James Scott

            Sometimes government does lie, but so does private industry, and it’s “suit,” not “suite.”

          • Billie Jacobs

            James Scott: The effect is the same. The ACA hade mandates that insurers must meet for increasing levels of policies with accompanying increases in cost. Suppose a person had an accident like I had years ago and had no insurance. I had spinal surgery for a ruptured disc with months of follow up care costing in excess of$40,000 which was covered by my employers insurance. This was a small business who under the ACA would be unable to afford the premiums!! If my employer had not provided insurance to cover these expenses, I would have had to declare bankruptcy!! Because of the ACA many small businesses cannot afford the increasing costs and are dropping coverage for their employees!!! In effect, the ACA is saying ‘Put up or shut up!!!’

          • James Scott

            I had a similar surgery. But what’s the difference? I had to drop my coverage long before the ACA, when my premiums went up to $1,700 a month precisely BECAUSE I had the surgery. At least, due to the ACA, I can now qualify for a policy even with a pre-existing condition.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Wouldn’t the best way then be for you to pay $1700 a month because you are a financial liability and have healthy people pay close to nothing because they aren’t? Like car insurance. Oh no…..chronically ill people couldn’t afford it you say….I’m afraid that would be just too bad. It’s called natural selection and I am all for it since I can surmise who would be falling by the way side first and in droves. Might get things back on track if we get rid of enough of the parasites.

          • James Scott

            I don’t tend to think of human beings as “parasites,” but I might make an exception for the insurance CEOs and insurance defense industry.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Fired, then? Bitterness is an unfortunate state of mind.

          • James Scott

            “Fired” from what? I own the corporation.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            You said you had worked in the insurance industry for 25 years. Still in it, then? It seems a little odd that you would be bad mouthing an industry if you were still part of it. If not, then it probably was not voluntary. Insurance itself is the driver for insane healthcare costs. If you pay cash at the Doctor’s office, you will generally pay 1/2 of what they insurance is charged. That is the core of the problem. If there was no insurance for routine care, the price would have to drop substantially to what the market and consumers could bear. A Tylenol in the hospital would not be $50 for instance. Same thing with higher education. Easy student loan money has driven the cost of tuition to insane levels as well. They simply could not charge that if people had to pay for it out of their own pockets. That is what one of these people was trying to articulate and they are right. The entire model of these things has to change. I personally think insurance is unnecessary except for catastrophic things (like your surgery for instance). Making everybody buy full coverage will not fix the problem. Particularly when the biggest uninsured group (illegals) will still be using free emergency rooms. This is a way for the insurance companies and the government to keep profit margins and recoup costs on other people’s backs. It is not a good solution. Period. There was a way to tweak health insurance to include the things that ARE good (pre-existing conditions and policy limits) without this law. Of course politicians want to keep their donors happy so this came out to the insurance companies benefit foremost and the government’s second. It’s a bad solution and should be scrapped and redesigned – in my opinion.

          • James Scott

            Why is it odd? I’ve come to realize that what I do only adds to the problem. The ACA, largely crafted by the insurance industry itself, is a flawed solution, but provides an important first step toward healthcare reform.

          • Margaret Sheehy

            Then we agree on that.

          • postman7z

            who is paying for that bronze plan of yours anyway?

          • James Scott

            We haven’t quite settled on a plan yet, but, when we do, it’ll be coming out of our savings.

          • postman7z

            I have had both neck and low spine surgeries(FLBS) and the Federal Government is now telling me and my Doctors how to treat my excruciating pain. The Federal government now telling my Doctors that hydrcodone is not the drug of choice for chronic spinal pain but the Federal government doesn’t advise on which drug is?? Catch-22 or what?

          • debbie

            Glad you got your free stuff !!! I don’t need free stuff. I pay my doctor because I’d rather do that than being forced to buy something I don’t want. Obummer did lie. He made it sound like it was going to be that way, keep your insurance. didn’t say that there was a possibility you would be dropped. He’s making it sound like everyone is dying to call to sign up. Just another lie. They are throwing numbers out there that no one can verify. But the ones he really needs to sign up to make this a success, is not signing. But he’s proud to say the criminals in prison are now covered. There’s a hell of a lot of people in prison. A lot of illegal aliens too. This will implode at one point. People will become unable to pay and it will be dropped due to non payment. Can’t bleed a turnip. This is the biggest mess I’ve ever seen. You’ll see soon enough that this will be changed drastically or totally thrown out the window. Poor people will be covered as they were before.

          • James Scott

            I seem to be missing out on this “free stuff.” You must tell me where you get yours.

          • postman7z

            Yes it is, it is a direct result of Obama and his Obamacare, this is the end result of his actions, direct actions at that. And the fact that he knew well in advance all these policies would fail their rules and have to be canceled he still went around promoting Obamacare by saying if you like your insurance you can keep it, now we know he lied. Now it if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor, another big lie, people with these new Obamacare policies cannot find Doctors. The next big lie of his and Obamacare if you like your hospital you can keep it , another lie.
            Remember the part that is you are sick and in pain maybe it is better off your Doctor just send you home with some pills (pain pills) instead of submitting to expensive and risky surgical options, another lie the DEA is cracking down so hard on the prescribing of even Vicodin (hydrcodone) just try finding a Doctor that will prescribe it for chronic pain. Rare as hens teeth these days and getting more difficult all the time. We now have folks with chronic pain (say back pain) have been trying heroin for pain relief and what a disaster that has been for them.
            Obamacare sucks and so do you Valarie and not in a good way either.

          • James Scott

            I can see you enjoy ranting, but your rant isn’t accurate. The people who canceled your insurance are your insurance company — and in no universe is it easier or cheaper to procure heroin than prescription painkillers.

          • postman7z

            Not that it is cheaper but that government is forbidding the use of the pain pills for chronic pain suffers. You said you also had back surgery I don’t know what kind but my neck (which was fractured along with 3 reputrued disks is held toegther with plates and screws -a 3 level discotomy along with fussion ) and it always hurts. Simular issue with the low back and no way am I going through another surgery like I had on my neck all I wand and need is help with the chronic pain but between the Federal Government ( DEA & FDA) interferring with me and my Doctors for pain care treatment I am being pushed out of paintreatment with opiate medication and told I will have to make due with just the Tylenol which by the way is the drug that kills most people in a hdyrocodne/oxycodone overdose due to liver failure from the Tylenol’s toxic effects on the liver. Tylenol and several other NASIDs are far more dangerous the hydrcodone. This ain’t a rant either.
            These ruling are directly from the Obama White House and ms michelle intervention into healthcare. Last time I heard she is a disbarred lawyer and not a MD.

          • James Scott

            I’m sorry to hear about your pain. My back problem doesn’t seem to be as acute as yours, as the surgery seems to have rectified it, as long as I don’t lift anything too heavy. However, I can tell you that insurance carriers have balked at continuing prescriptions and therapies for chronic pain long before Mr. Obama got into office. That’s what we do — hold depositions to “prove” people aren’t as injured as they make out so we can cut them off. Also, you seem to have heard incorrectly. Ms. Obama has never had a complaint against her law license.

          • phred01

            like the ones owned by soros

          • pawanna

            what a blow hard you are – the insurance companies dropped people because the plans they had didn’t “conform” to the law – not the fault of the insurance companies – it is the fault of the Laws – by the way – the President did lie over and over again – he admitted it….

          • James Scott

            No, he didn’t — and the insurance companies could have easily incorporated the changes into their policies.

          • curmudgeon

            Republican owned? How about some facts along with your less than intelligent claims. Emotions get in the way of your God given ability to use reason and common sense?

          • James Scott

            Just personal observation. I work for the insurance industry, and to a man — or woman — every CEO, shareholder, adjustor, or insurance defense attorney are Republicans.

          • postman7z

            Bull Shite, I guess Mr Tyson of Kieser Permente is a Republican or the family( chairman Peter Lewis-big time liberal) that owns Progressive Insurance are Republicans. Get real you lie as does Obama and because of your lies people people die.

          • James Scott

            Can you name someone who died?

          • Wanda Whitehead Tumlin

            Republican owned insurance companies? Proof please. Insurance companies are share-holder owned. If you have a pension fund, IRA, Mutual fund, etc., you are the owner.

          • James Scott

            No shareholder I have ever met is a Democrat. No adjustor, either.

          • postman7z

            Again you lie most of the insurance companies, which by the way are buying up hospital property’s right and left, are owned by liberals (Demorats}.
            Like Kieser, UNH, Hartford, Progressive and look at the people on the board of directors of these corps and see who find there with seats.

          • James Scott

            Like I say, in 20 years I’ve never met a representative of an insurance company or defense firm who is a Democrat, and in fact the only Democrat I know who even works for them is me.

          • Scully

            Maybe Obama should have went after the insurance companies rather than forcing Americans off their policies to force them with threats of fines taking their refunds to take care of the ones that Medicaid would have covered, I work in the medical insurance field, he went after the wrong group, and either way you look at it 6.5 million LOST their policies, WERE insured and now the goal of 7 million forced to sign up is a win win? I say low standards and un informed people and yes a misspeak is a lie if you have that many people hanging on your every word, its LYING.. I believe the word you meant was RADICAL not rational falling on name calling lost you the argument

          • James Scott

            I don’t believe you can work for an insurance company and know as little about the situation as you seem to. By the way, you need English lessons.

          • one4gipper

            Obama should have “went”???? Try again.

          • LittleRoot_48

            You correct Scully with such glee. Do you also correct people who “ax” you a question?

          • JoJo58

            You keep on believing that. obama lies about everything, and the idiot CEOs bought into the lie and thought they would have 30 million more forced policy holders. Didn’t seem to occur to the idiots to listen to obama state that the goal was to have a single payer system.

            As for your comment about their being too many rational Americans to “remove”, try reading the book “How Do You Kill 11 Million People?”

          • James Scott

            If their plan wouldn’t work, why do you suppose the insurance cartel came up with the plan in the first place? However, thanks for outing yourself as a dangerous psychopath. I couldn’t conceive of harming even one individual, much less 11 million.

          • JoJo58

            It’s a well known BOOK, or are you this mentally deranged that you can’t handle a book title? It’s the true story of how the Nazis managed to kill 11 million people. They LIED to them. Just like what this administration is doing to us.

            Since you’re a liberal, you already conceive of harming millions of individuals.

          • James Scott

            It’s never occurred to me to harm anyone — however, all tallied, there’s reasonable evidence that the Nazis were responsible for more than just 11 million deaths, but to equate the United States with Nazi Germany is just plain crazy.

          • phred01

            it was a back room deal that was sponsored by your mother pelosi, didn’t bring out until it was voted on. Then it was over 2500 pages that was supposed to be read in 4 hours.

          • James Scott

            I’ve never met Ms. Pelosi — but what has any of that got to do with the discussion at hand?

          • phred01

            your reasoning is so much like hers, it sounds like you sit around and have family talks

          • James Scott

            I don’t think I’ve ever even heard her speak.

          • Brian Robinson

            If you ever pull your head out of Obama’s a$$ long enough you may hear a lot of things.

          • James Scott

            What an adult method of expression and discourse you employ. I can’t wait to hear how you’ll sound once you’re out of middle school.

          • Brian Robinson

            I would rather sound like I was in middle school than sound like you.

          • James Scott

            Don’t worry. You’re almost there.

          • LittleRoot_48

            He DOES lie about everything.

          • RA

            You sir are clinical. This is a joke on your part.

          • Wayne Willard

            Obama didn’t lie, please. When has he ever told the truth. You must have voted for Obama twice or more, making you too stupid to argue with

          • phred01

            When I was a child, I said outlandish thing to.

          • LittleRoot_48

            The insurance companies did not get on national TV and say that. obama DID.

          • James Scott

            That’s because the insurance companies have no integrity.

          • Brian Robinson

            Are you sh!ting me? The law written by Libs and passed by Libs forced the insurance companies to do the things that happened. Yet somehow you think it’s their fault? I guess that fit with the Lib stance on mass shootings it was the guns fault not the nut job behind it.

          • Clee White

            You need to have your head examined!

          • James Scott

            You need to understand how insurance works — and sometimes doesn’t.

          • Cynthia Tamburro

            you are very naïve if you think that!!!!

          • James Scott

            Then could you please point out where I am in error?

          • Billy Edick

            the promise was made prior to having contracts in place with health groups and individual doctors. The promise was made in good faith that the insurers and health providers, doctors would negotiate terms of contracts. Its both the insurers and health providers that may be violating some of the affordable health care acts guidelines. Here in Sutter County and Yuba County I recently received a letter from John Garmendi saying he was looking into the issues were having here with very few places that accept Coveredca plan from Blue Cross. Blue Cross is our only provider in our area through CoveredCa. I’m a conservative but don’t believe in passing blame on someone who doesn’t deserve it. The blame for this lays many sides. The promise made can still come true, the affordable health care act is a work in progress.

          • James Scott

            A very adult attitude and discourse. Everything is a work in progress.

          • postman7z

            Obama lied and lied so many time we have lost count. Is your family insurance $2500 cheaper than it was before Obamacare?
            Give it up Valarie and go troll somewhere(back to HuffPo) else we have your number and it is a wrong number.

          • James Scott

            Actually, it has gone down from what we were quoted, around $2,500 a month, to as low as $500 a month, so not quite $2,500, but close.

          • phred01

            obammy lied. He knew what would happen.

          • James Scott

            Oh, I see. Another racist who can’t discuss something calmly without resorting to name-calling. Good-bye.

          • Rick David

            ….so when Bush jr. claimed Iraq had WMDs. I guess that makes him liar of the millennium?

          • RA

            Typical and you prove my point. You won’t admit the fact that BO is a liar.
            Take about 15-20 minutes and research the facts that Congress, Bill, Hillary, Kerry, Pelosi, majority of dems, and our NATO allies ALL supported dealing with the Saddam Hussein WMD threat. You’re nuts if you can’t understand everyone was on the same page on the potential of what Saddam could cause.
            Furthermore do a little more research and you will find out that the WMDs were potentially moved to Syria with the help of Russia and or other arab countries during the engagement of Iraq.

          • Rick David

            OK Alex Jones

          • RA

            Ok Rick David. Ignorance is bliss for you.

          • Rick David

            Keep on baggin’

          • RA

            What is baggin? If you’re trying to insult me please explain as I have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            hack…

          • phred01

            oh you mean like IRS,, Benghazi, Fast and furious or your god obammy ‘you can keep your provider’?

          • LittleRoot_48

            You’re a moron, like most liberals.

          • Scott Smith

            Oh right, Republicans lie…like “if you like your plan you can keep your plan” or “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” or “It was a reaction to a movie” and let’s not forget “Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat” the list can go on and on when it comes to liberal lies.

          • James Scott

            Democrats can’t even begin to challenge Republicans in the arena of lying.

          • Scott Smith

            Lolololololololololla best joke I heard this week James. Orwell warned about your kind. Lying is truth and war is peace. All that “truth” from big brother lefties.

          • Crash

            When you assist the Communist Chinese with corruption and lies against your people for profit and power… Your a traitor..! When you sit here and defend and support such acts you too are a traitor.. What was the liberal definition of a assault rifle again..? Or the definition of a illegal immigrant..?

          • James Scott

            Reid has never done that, except in your imagination.

          • Crash Burning

            Thats because he was caught..! lmao! Your special kind aren’t you..

          • James Scott

            Complete nonsense.

          • Crash Burning

            I need to ask you something… How is the turtle ok as long as the farmer pays his fee and when he dont they are not safe…? Beside the truth be known if it was not for Bill changing the land treaty for free grazing the FEDs made with the ranchers to start with it would not have been a problem… If you dont understand what I am talking about ask a native American… He can explain it better than me I am sure…. How about that answer cupcake….

          • James Scott

            How about the fact that it’s not Bundy’s land, it’s federal land, and they can sell it to whomever they please?

          • ADBEll

            Politicians have been aiding communist China in taking over this country for at least the last thirty years. Some could say that Harry Reid is one of them and also a traitor to his countrymen.

          • James Scott

            Preposterous nonsense. If doing business with China is a treasonous offense, then Harry Reid has an AWFUL lot of Republican company. However, courts aren’t interested in what you can “say.” What specific evidence do you have? I bet I know — none.

          • Pamela Jean Myers Richert

            Keep drinking the Kool Aid and you too will end up just like the followers of Jim Jones.

          • James Scott

            I only drink water and sometimes ginger ale.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            apparently not…tool…

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            commiting political treason is still treason…hack…

          • James Scott

            Not according to the law.

          • DDofAL

            WHEN CLINTON OVERROAD THE STATE DEPT AND THE DOD IN FAVOR OF THE COMMERCE DEPT TO SELL FORBIDDEN ELECTRONIC TECH TO THE CHINESE–HUGHES WAS THE COMPANY INVOLVED . THAT WAS WHEN THE CHINESE MILITARY CAPABILITY TOOK OFF TO THE POINT WHERE THEY NOW CHALLENGE US WITH HACKERS —IT ESTABLISHED THEIR COMPUTER INDUSTRY

          • James Scott

            In retrospect, it may have been an unwise decision, just as was selling weapons to the Iranian Ayatollahs, laundering money for Saddam’s WMD programs, and giving Osama Bin laden a billion dollars to fight the Russians. Most Presidents make some such blunder, but lack of foresight isn’t an indictable crime, or every President we’ve ever had would be on trial.

          • DDofAL

            WHICH PRES LET SADDAM LAUDER MONEY? ONLY ONES I RECALL WAS KOFI’S SON AND AS A UN GUY AFTER WE GOT THE DOCUMENTS FROM IRAQ THE US COULD DO NOTHING. —WHO SOLD WEAPONS TO IRAN AFTER THE TAKE OVER BY THE CLERICS? AND YOU’RE RIGHT TO A DEGREE–FRIENDS TODAY CAN BE THE ENEMIES OF TOMORROW AS WITNESSED BE CASTRO AND BIN LADEN–PERHAPS WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN MORE CREDENCE TO THE SAUDIS THAT HAD OUTLAWED HIM—

          • James Scott

            President Reagan and his Vice President, Mr. Bush, laundered money through a bank in Atlanta for several of Saddam’s programs, and extended CIA help in targeting victims of nerve gas. It was also under Mr. Reagan and Mr. Bush that hundreds of Hawk and TOW missiles were sold to the Ayatollahs, while, at the same time, we gave enormous sums of money as well as CIA help to Osama Bin Laden. It obviously, at the time, appeared to Mr. Reagan and Mr. Bush that these were prudent courses of action. The point is, as bone-headed as it appears now, they were likely operating within their prerogative — and, even if they weren’t, I’m not sure it would have been worth trying to bring any criminal action after the fact.

          • DDofAL

            YOU ARE FULL OF IT—REAGEN ARMED SADDAM UNTIL THE TREATIES BANNED THE WMD’S . THEY DID NOTHING TO FURTHER SADDAMS PLANS AFTER THAT. REAGAN USED MONEY GOTTEN FROM IRAQ TO FUND TO CONTRAS.IRAQ WAS AT WAR WITH IRAN THE GREATER EVIL THEN.NO WEAPONS EVER WAS SOLD TO IRAN AFTER THE CLERIC TOOK OVER–BY ANY GOP ADMIN. YOU FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA IS PATHETIC. JUST WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU GETTING THIS CRAP FOR FACTS? MAKING THEM AS YOU GO EH?

          • James Scott

            Unfortunately, it’s history. Reagan assisted Saddam with his nerve gas long after the agents were outlawed, even providing CIA assistance in targeting victims — and Reagan never got money “from Iraq.” The missiles were sold to the Ayatollahs in 1986, more than half a decade after they took over Iran in 1979. If you consult a few history books, you’ll see that I am correct — however, you are correct that Mr. Reagan did use the money he got from Iran to fund the Contras, in violation of U.S. law, and which WOULD have been an impeachable offense.

          • DDofAL

            UNFORTUNATELY –SADLY-YOU’RE MAKING UP HISTORY AS YOU PROGRESSIVES OFTEN DO. IF AS YOU PLAINLY STATE THAT REAGAN EVER SOLD ANY ARMS TO IRAN –HE MOST DEFINITELY BEEN IMPEACHED–SINCE THE DEMS RAN CONGRESS—ANY ARMS SALES TO IRAN WAS A VIOLATION OF US LAW–PARTICULARLY SINCE THE CLERIC TAKE OVER IN 1979 WHEN CARTER WAS PRES. –LIVING THRU THIS PERIOD THE WAS INTENSE SCRUTINY ON REAGAN –THE PROGRESSIVES HATED THAT HE COULD GET THE POPULACE TO GET THEIR REPS TO GO ALONG AS OPPOSED TO THE FOLLOWING OF THE PARTY LINES. KEEP YOUR LIES TO YOURSELF–JUST LIKE THOSE IDIOTS THAT CLAIMED THAT THE BUSH ADMIN WAS COMPLICIT IN THE 911 ATTACKS–IF YOU CANNOT DO BETTER THAN THIS –BOY ARE YOU SUCH A WEAK EXAMPLE OF THE DEMS–

          • James Scott

            Again, I’m afraid you’ll need to check your history. That’s why it’s called “Iran/Contra” — weapons were sold to the Ayatollahs. However, I will agree with you that there is no rational basis on which to suppose the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attack, and I do not for a second believe Mr. Bush would have done such a thing.

          • Doug Lizar

            HE IS A TRAITOR TO THE STATE OF NEVADA AND OUT RUN DOWN GOVERNMENT…

          • Buck

            http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo/blm_programs/energy.html

            Follow the money numbnuts. Who do you think is going to build the wind generators?

          • debbie

            Oh please , are you blind ??? That man will cheat anyone to take a buck or to further his agenda . That is to get more money in his account, off the backs of his constituents, and anyone else he can. He doesn’t care about the people , he cares only for himself . People are seeing his corruption.

          • James Scott

            And yet no one seems to be able to cite what his alleged “corruption” consists of. Don’t you find that a little strange?

          • pawanna

            some people in with Hairy Reid’s land deal are in jail – his son is a crook and so is Hairy…. study up please – “a little strange”

          • James Scott

            Do you mean “Harry Reid”?

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            Or Hairy Dweeb…

          • pawanna

            Good one – I will add that one to my Reid bank of useful names – hahaha – thanks

          • pawanna

            Hairy Reid aka Harry Reid….. same difference – have you read the news lately?

          • James Scott

            Do you expect me to take seriously the accusations of people who use kindergarten monickers like “Hairy”? I require a more mature and methodical approach.

          • pawanna

            Do you think I really care what YOU want – all of your posts here show just how “mature” you are…. I would call your ideas – pre-school….

          • James Scott

            Of course you would. Insults are the last resort of people who have no leg to stand on.

          • pawanna

            that is too funny – in fact I have 2 legs to stand on and still find your comments quite uninformed and childish -

          • Raymond Tower
          • James Scott

            If there’s enough evidence to make a case, it sounds like the Nevada State prosecutors will do so — but I must tell you, where I’m from, a few payoffs and behind-the-scenes influence is just business as usual. Nobody bats an eye.

          • JHorvathJr

            u must b from Chicago!

          • James Scott

            The backwoods of South Carolina. I saw Chicago on a map once.

          • Pamela Jean Myers Richert

            People in SC are cringing right now that you acknowledged to be from their state. Poor SC-we don’t think everyone is SC is an idiot. Like it is said there are always a few rotten apples in the barrel, and James is one of them.

          • James Scott

            Actually, you would be wrong. If you look at the test scores in our State, you would see that the majority of South Carolinians really ARE idiots.

          • Al Williams

            Mr. Scott…….you give those of from SC that do our own research a bad name……from your posts you live on the liberal teat

          • James Scott

            I don’t live on anything of the kind.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            yea…moms basement is kinda quaint…

          • James Scott

            You could always move out on your own.

          • Pamela Jean Myers Richert

            Well you just answered a lot of ours questions. You must be a liberal that believes it is perfectly fine to break laws. Taking bribes is unlawful in any situation.

          • James Scott

            I am a liberal who has seen so many conservatives break laws that I’ve come to accept they’re actually pretty meaningless in the real world. Nevertheless, I main that the rule of law is important, and must prevail over the rule of the mob.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            so…perpetuating a lie from another party make you NOT a liar?…pathetic…

          • Buck

            Do you know the difference between the “Rule of Law” and the “Rule of Man”?

          • James Scott

            I do. The rule of law is adjudicated in a courtroom, where this gentleman apparently has lost twice, not on a highway pointing guns at men who are doing their jobs.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            again…perpetuating a lie still makes you a liar…hack…

          • JHorvathJr

            Union Thuggery, questionable backroom deals with foreign powers, refusals to carry out his quote by side-lining any legislation use passes forward. Add to it, senility, borishness, and low-classkickss-ass sycophancy.

          • James Scott

            I don’t think a court is going to allow charges of “senility” or “borishness,” by which I presume you mean “boorishness,” but it WILL demand concrete evidence of all the rest, and you don’t seem to have any. How tragic for you.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            lack of evidence does not automatically insinuate that a crime has not been commited…hack…

          • linreis

            you seem to be a man whose mind is closed to the truth. do you not listen to any news? probably not…and you’ll probably not read this either…you asked, however.
            reid embezzled thousands of campaign funds to purchase ‘gifts’ for people, from a company owned by his grand daughter…A July 30, 2012, headline in the Las Vegas Review-Journal alerted Nevadans to Sen. Harry Reid’s latest influence-peddling scandal – this one involving ENN Energy Group, a Chinese “green energy” client of the Nevada law firm of which Reid’s son, Rory, is a principal.

            As Reuter’s reported on August 31, 2012, “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada. His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

            “Well below appraised value” is a considerable understatement. The deal Rory Reid put together for the firm his dad brought to town saw ENN purchase the site for just $4.5 million – a mere fraction of separate appraisals that valued the property at $29.6 million and $38.6 million. Even with all of that, however, the project has failed to move forward as rapidly as Harry and Rory Reid would like – for the simple reason that there is currently no market in Nevada for the green energy ENN claims it could produce.

            But, of course, funneling money to the Reid family is nothing new for the Senate Majority Leader. As the Washington Post reported in a February 7, 2012, story titled “Public projects, private interests:”

            In 2004 and 2005, the Senate majority leader secured $21.5 million to build a bridge over the Colorado River, linking the gambling resort town of Laughlin, Nev., with Bullhead City, Ariz. Reid owns 160 acres of undeveloped land in Bullhead City.

            And according to Peter Schweizer, writing for Fox News on December 12, 2012, “Sen. Reid has sponsored at least $47 million in earmarks that directly benefitted organizations that one of his sons, Key Reid, [RW1] either lobbies for or is affiliated with.

            Needless to say, the well-entrenched Sen. Reid has been a repeat Top Ten offender.

          • James Scott

            Well, I don’t know to tell you this, but being a lawyer isn’t a crime. Maybe it should be, but it isn’t, so you’re wasting your time going on about his son. But even if ANY of you say is true — which I’ll have to doubt, as no one has filed any charges — how does that justify threatening to shoot federal agents?

          • linreis

            when the federal agents have you in their target, and are trying to bully the citizens of the land. I don’t know how to tell you this, but apparently you haven’t noticed any of the issues of this country, the number one being an out of control government, the number two being law enforcement that seems to have lost its place…that of protecting the citizens. BTW, lawyers are the bane of existence, and a large part of what is wrong with country today…they learn corruption from their clients, and then they go into politics

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            defending youself against an unfounded tyrranical effort by the government is a constitutional right…there was no law/conviction broken/given by/to the ranchers either…your circular reasoning is beginning to unravel and making you look more and more patthetic…

          • James Scott

            Unfortunately, the prevailing legal opinion is that there HAVE been laws broken by this rancher, hence attempts to enforce the laws are hardly “tyrranical.” I didn’t like it when the IRS said I owed them $150,000, but I wasn’t about to start shooting people over it.

          • RA

            Without out a doubt. This guy talks to himself and practices this rhetoric.

          • Joseph Kerns

            I will bet you east coast liberals. If that had taken place in Texas. their would have been agents shot.

          • James Scott

            Then there would have been some murderers going to the federal penitentiary.

          • Joseph Kerns

            Kinda sheds a new light on his deal with Mitch McConnell.

          • RA

            You know as well as everyone else on this discussion that you can google his name and find numerous sources of documentation of his criminal and unethical actions including his sons. Before Gotti was charged and convicted or crimes did you think he didn’t do anything wrong or just that he hadn’t been charged? You’re ridiculous. bo, hillery, holder, and reid etc. are corrupt criminals they just haven’t been charged yet. Eventually people like you will have to shut your mouth when justice is finally is served. The scary part is you know they are guilty but you deny it. Makes you one mental/sick individual.

          • James Scott

            They haven’t been charged because none of you have found anything to charge them with. Wanting to pillory someone with no evidence of a crime makes you one sick individual.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            being closed minded is just as sick…tool…

          • James Scott

            You can always open your mind. It’s not as difficult as you might think.

          • RA

            I’m sure you fall into that category more than me or people not in denial like you.

          • James Scott

            Nobody has yet to show any evidence of any crime. You can’t just fantasize based on hearsay and your own psychosis.

          • Joseph Kerns

            Are you willing to pick up a gun to support your cause. An awful lot of Americans are. We will see how this ends

          • James Scott

            Guns are the weapons of cowards. I picked up one once, and vowed never to do so again.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            not being convicted is not necessarily absense of a crime…hack…

          • James Scott

            Possibly you mean “absence.”

          • DDofAL

            JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS “LEGAL” TO DO DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS NO HARM TO THE US–HIS DECISIONS CLEARLY HAVE NOT BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR THE US. THE USING OF THE SENATE FLOOR TO LIE ABOUT HIS PARTY’S OPPONENTS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN ETHICS INVESTIGATION –JUST LIKE THE USING OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS –$16000 FOR HIS GRAND DAUGHTER’S CHRISTMAS PRESENTS–JUST AS WITH GEITNER THE PAYING OF TAXES LATE DOES NOT FORGIVE THE BRAKING OF THE LAW.

          • Raymond Tower

            Aid has been given to The Muslim Brotherhood and enemy of The United States. This aid came in the form of Money and weapons.

            Section. 3.

            Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

            I do believe there are more than 2 witnesses.

          • James Scott

            And when and where did that happen? Besides, I don’t believe there has been any declaration of war against any nation in which the Muslim Brotherhood is active.

          • Raymond Tower

            Article 3 does not state that we must have a declared war. Try again.

          • James Scott

            So where is your evidence of “levying war”?

          • Raymond Tower

            Nice try again. It also states or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” The United States is at war with global terrorism, as prescribed by Congress. So keep trying.

          • James Scott

            The reason they are not listed as a terrorist organization — excepting Saudi Arabia and Egypt — is that there is no evidence to brand them as such, only suspicion. I’m afraid it’s YOU will have to keep trying — except that you don’t get to make that call.

          • JHorvathJr

            Moslim ‘Bruderbund’ is led by our dictator’s brother.Kind of like Hitler and Musselini

          • James Scott

            We don’t have a dictator, except in your paranoid delusions.

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            you planets of circular reasoning are out of alignment…again…hack…

          • James Scott

            An amusing astronomical metaphor. May I borrow it?

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            another tool…yet more selective in comprehension…

          • Clee White

            I’d call 200 armed agents against a couple dozen ranchers waging war on your own country.

          • James Scott

            I’d call it a bunch of outlaws trying to illegally graze cattle on federal lands.

          • Linda Prince Johnson

            He was aiding China, are they not our enemies?

          • James Scott

            No, they’re not. However, just because they’re not “enemies” doesn’t mean we can completely trust them in a business deal, any more than you can trust the guy next door to you.

          • ColoradoMan

            Which of the enemies of the United States has Reid not helped?

          • James Scott

            None.

          • postman7z

            The PRC -Communist China-is one of our enemies just right now they seem to be more of a “freminy”

          • James Scott

            Again, I’ll reiterate that you can’t trust ANYBODY in a business relationship, but China is not an “enemy,” at least until they open fire on Japan. Hundreds of U.S. companies do business in and with China, and there’s nothing “treasonous” about it. Their wisdom may be disputed, but there’s nothing illegal about it.

          • postman7z

            So Communist countries are no longer the enemy of USA. Communism perhaps the most evil political system ever devised by “man” is not our enemy?

          • James Scott

            Nope. Communism is not inherently “evil,” although it can become such in the hands of dictators like Stalin or Mao or the current nut in North Korea, but so can capitalism in the hands of a Hitler.

          • JD Brown

            Traitor or patriot?

          • James Scott

            You are free to be whichever you choose.

          • Cory Michael Findlay

            for i thing i don’t watch MSNBC

          • JoJo58

            LOL

          • Raymond Tower

            The Muslim Brotherhood.

          • James Scott

            I don’t know how to tell you this, but we are not at war with the Muslim Brotherhood — in fact, there’s some speculation that they may even be able to assist us with intelligence concerning Iran’s and Russia’s initiatives in the Middle East and Africa.

          • Raymond Tower

            I have new for you. We don’t have to be at war, to declare them as an enemy of the United States. The Muslim Brotherhood has been and is listed as an enemy of The United States, as a terrorist group. So you fail again.

          • James Scott

            I don’t believe they have. There have been efforts to have them declared a terrorist organization, but it’s never happened. And we’ve been at odds with certain parties before and still done business with them, such as when the Reagan administration sold illegal weapons to Iran.

          • JHorvathJr

            You have inside information? I guess liberals are free to discuss those things while republicans are sent to jail. Are you a government agent or a free-lancers for the demoncrats,

          • James Scott

            Actually, I DO have inside information on a few things, but nothing about the Muslim Brotherhood, but when are you imagining that anyone ever said you couldn’t discuss them?

          • Steven M

            How about that interest on the Federal Reserve notes issued as debt sucker? The debt can never be payed off. Your tax money is sent to the Federal Reserve and burned to keep you poor. Wake up

          • James Scott

            Except that the debt IS paid off. I know quite a few people whose holdings are primarily in federal notes, and the Treasury has never missed a payment so far. It’s not “burned;” it goes to fund federal projects, and the interest funds people’s retirements — but what has ANY of that got to with the discussion about the farmer and the cows?

          • Steven M

            It’s a Ponzi scheme and you know it. You have to borrow the currency to make the payment; this is soylent green, literally and when the Ponzi scheme crashes the payments will be made in human flesh literally. Governance and government interference in markets, ( there’s nobody down here but us chickens ) is the most dangerous thing out there. Responsible for 262 million civilian death in the 20th century. But your on here for twelve hours defending the lying liars. How little do you accept for this selling out of your own soul?

          • James Scott

            You’re delusional. And I haven’t been “on here” for 12 hours. I took four hours and went and did a photoshoot downtown, and now I’m photoshopping roughly 200 pictures to email them to my publishers. I only look on here after I’ve finished five or ten pictures. As for how little I accept — well, a gig like I did today used to pay 4 or $500. Now it’s $75, so I guess I’m pretty cheap.

          • Steven M

            It doesn’t go to federal projects unless you include keeping you poor. If it’s payed off what’s that 17 trill not to mention the unfunded liabilities the SS insecurity ” Trust Fund” money robbed, replaced with IOU’s how cute. It’s a criminal take over and your a chump.

          • James Scott

            The $17 trillion is money we issued to bondholders, like my father-in-law, who has his retirement invested in Treasuries, as do millions of other Americans. Every government since the Romans has issued bonds, and regardless of what you think, the money borrowed from investors DOES go to federal projects, like the $1 billion they’re about to invest in redredging Charleston Harbor, or repairing our interstates. But, again, none of that justifies shooting at federal agents on federal land in Nevada.

          • Steven M

            Good luck when the price of the worthless bonds fall through the floor. The Chinese have warehouses full of those bonds and another trill in cash. What do think going to happen When the Russians, Chinese, Brazil and the rest of the world get tried of the City of London and Washington D.C. get tired of US sticking our nose in every bodies business all around the world and trying to buy up everything with fiat currency and a bunch of empty BS

          • James Scott

            They’ve been tired of it for 60 years, and it hasn’t made any difference. Why are you so intent on making sure the U.S. collapses?

          • pyrodice

            Sorry, did they edit the oath so it was just enemies foreign, not domestic? If you could point out when that happened…

          • The RightStuff

            Judging by their actions since the early 1900′s I’d say the Soviet Union. They never did like Reagan getting rid of them….I’m 54 years old and in my life the Democrats have always been against America and the foundations it was built on, wiping their backsides with the Constitution at every opportunity then perverting the letter and spirit of it when it suits their needs.

          • James Scott

            I could say the same thing about Republicans, but what in the world has any of that got to do with insurance?

          • postman7z

            PRC the people republic of china,

          • mogul264

            Malfeasance of office, for one!

          • James Scott

            You have to be more explicit than that for any kind of legal action.

          • JoJo58

            It would take too long to write up all of the crimes committed by this administration. What’s amusing is that liberals can scream and shout lies without providing ONE shred of evidence to back them up.

            If you’ve been keeping up with the news, it’s pretty easy to connect the dots…okay, well maybe not for liberals. Eric Holder has been in contempt of congress since long before Fast and Furious, and continues to do so.

          • James Scott

            Unfortunately for you, courts are interested in specific charges, not wild generalities.

          • Brian Kelsey

            Courts are interested in the same thing the rest of the government is interested in. Power.

          • James Scott

            So your alternative is mob rule? No thanks.

          • Robert Willis

            the alternative is we the people stand up just like they did in Nevada and ran the BLM off

          • James Scott

            So you ARE in favor of mob rule overriding the rule of law, just as I suspected. Unfortunately for you, that’s not the way the United States works.

          • Robert Willis

            no d*******I am in favor of our government following the law of the land to the letter of the law of the land which is the Constitution of the United States! And when they do not follow the Constitution we as a people use the Constitution to make them follow the Constitution that’s what the 2nd amendment is For! if it takes a mob to right or wrong then by God we use a mob! It’s time for another revolution the government is out of f****** control and people like you do nothing to help the cause! you talk of getting a lawyer and taking someone to court well that takes money lawyers don’t do it for free in the court system is setup so the lay personlate person cannot come in and do a goddamn thing without an attorney! the judges and the attorneys do nothing but steal your money and it’s because we the people have not stood up to stop it! Well it’s now time to stop it it’s getting too far out of control either get with the program or get the f*** out the way

          • SusieQ

            Exactly, one doesn’t have much recourse with the govt. without financial ruin, they know that. We have a AG of the US that has been found in contempt of congress, what do you do about that with his siamese twin sitting in the white house. Boy, that’s a fair playing field we have there, now isn’t it?

          • James Scott

            Nevertheless, our legal system is the best and fairest that’s been devised so far, and I think you’re a little too quick to want to throw it away for some kind of popular dictatorship.

          • GigsUp

            how about this James Scott…

            YOU please cite for me the law (any STATE law) which gave the BLM the right to;
            1) invade the State
            2) usurp the local law enforcement
            3) erect “limiting zones” for free speech
            4) any request from the governor either;
            a. asking for the National Guard for any type of emergency (which would have been the appropriate thing to do had there actually been any State emergency declared)
            b. a direct line of escalation requesting federal assistance BY LAW ENFORCEMENT from the local sheriff’s office, to the state law enforcement, to the governor, to the federal government.

            Until YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT EVIDENCE, quit challenging all those commenting here demanding THEY answer your questions.

            I’m waiting but I’m not going to hold my breath lol.

            Just a few additional points for you to ponder Mr. I Demand Legal Evidence, and it must be appropriately applicable to file a suit in a court of law else all comments must be silenced or ridiculed. Guess what? Since you require “evidence”, perhaps we should demand the same right? Isn’t that fare and equal application of the law sir?

            Answer me this. DID HARRY sign/certify ANY Primary or State submission to place on ANY/EVERY State ballot for a one Mr. Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama? As he is not a natural born citizen nor eligible to be on any said primary or state ballot, not only Mr. Reid but also Ms. Pelosi, Ms Shultz and anyone else who acted in that capacity are also traitors.

          • James Scott

            Unfortunately for you, every piece of evidence that can be found indicates that Mr. Obama is just as American as you are — and maybe more so — but that’s not the question at issue, which is, what has Mr, Reid done that merits criminal charges?

          • GigsUp

            really?
            the proven fake birth certificate?
            the proven fake SS number he’s filed his taxes with?
            pray tell, please provide ONE PIECE of evidence that has been found. ONE.
            everything I’ve seen, has proven only that he has not proven a thing
            actually, the ONLY items that have been produced are more substantial that anything he’s provided:
            1) financial application for college foreign student loans
            2) the SS number he uses that belongs to a man who has been dead over 50 years
            3) the faked Birth Certificate
            4) the faked selective service registration
            If you have ANY evidence, I’m sure the rest of America would love to see it, and I imagine the attorneys he’s paid over 8 million to prevent any one from seeing any evidence would also be very concerned lol.

          • James Scott

            Everything you’ve cited is contrived nonsense and has been summarily dismissed by everyone as blatant fabrication. What does seem to be a fact is that his mother was an American citizen, and that’s all it takes

          • GigsUp

            Wow! Spew that lie over and over again until even YOU believe it!

            Nothing is “contrived nonsense and summarily dismissed by everyone as blatant fabrication” EXCEPT FOR THE FAKE CRAP the fraud sitting in our wh has attempted to provide.

            So I guess you will just continue refusing TO CITE ONE LAW that gave slime ball Harry the right to do what he has attempted!

            You are most expert I must admit at throwing the smoke screen and avoidance, so without a doubt I know now you are a paid O-BOT troll.
            Good luck with that in the near future =)~

          • James Scott

            Nobody pays me.

          • GigsUp

            and again, YOU PROVIDE the law that gives that sleeze ball Reid ANY authority to sell, lease, contract or “promise” ANY Nevada State “public lands” to anyone?
            PS: while your at it Mr. Thinks He’s Slick, please also remind me again what agency(s) must be involved in commerce amongst other countries, and please tell me if that scumbag is a part of that agency?
            So you don’t believe someone attempting to; steal from the State, usurp the Constitution, usurp the appropriate federal agency(s), illegally entering into contact(s) with foreign country for the use of protected STATE “public” lands (FAR BEYOND ANY scope of authority he has as a “Senator” hate to tell you, i.e., IS A CRIME AND THOSE HE CONSPIRES WITH ARE ALSO CRIMINALS) is not aiding and abetting an enemy?

          • James Scott

            No, actually, it’s not “aiding and abetting an enemy” — but if any of what you say is true, hire a good team of attorneys and pursue it in court.

          • GigsUp

            in due course dear James Scott. in due course.

          • James Scott

            Sure. I’ll wait to see you on the news.

          • GigsUp

            Both the State of NV, the Bundy’s, and all the other ranchers “have standing” James. But wait, you were the one wanting to see evidence that could be provided a court right so you already know this since Harry was not acting within his scope of authority as a “Senator” he can be personally sued.
            Right?
            lol

          • James Scott

            I don’t “know” anything. I want to see the evidence. You have some — right?

          • GigsUp

            YOU cite the law that gave Harry the right or authority (or BLM for that matter) to do what they did or shut up and stop defending him/them and ridiculing others here.
            YOU CAN’T because it was all illegal and unconstitutional as the article describes.

          • James Scott

            Except that it’s not unconstitutional. The power of governments to take personal property has
            always existed in the United States via the legislative branch, but may not be exercised unless the legislature has
            authorized its use by statute. What statute specifically covers Nevada I don’t know, but the gist of what I’m reading suggests there is one.

          • Raymond Tower

            Except that it’s not unconstitutional. The power of governments to take personal property has always existed in the United States via the legislative branch, but may not be exercised unless the legislature has authorized its use by statute

            LMAO at this idiotic statement.

            Amendment IV

            The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

            I believe the 4th Amendment states otherwise.

          • James Scott

            I’m not convinced there has been an unlawful search or seizure. The cattle were on government land, and apparently there’s already been litigation and the farmer lost. That’s too bad, may even be unfair, but he’s certainly free to appeal the ruling.

          • GigsUp

            WRONG again, State “public” land, for which Mr. Bundy had a contract that he has always adhered to and paid for. The State did not and has not relinquished said land to the federal government (BLM). The federal government had/has ZERO authority to charge Bundy a cent, to be there on said lands, to take and hold the cattle, to prevent Bundy from being on that land and most importantly they had/have ZERO right to threaten him in an attempt to coerce him to sell like they did the other ranchers.

          • GigsUp

            Wrong again, coercion is always illegal especially from the government who is suppose to PROTECT US from coercion. If you can’t see the oxy-moron in what you suggest? You are a fool or very young and without much knowledge.

            I also guess you never read the Constitution. Specifically Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17. I highly suggest you do.

            First of all, Harry was not acting as “CONGRESS”, he was acting personally for his own benefit.

            Second of all, Harry’s and BLM’s actions are far beyond the scope of what the section of our Constitution details, i.e., authorizing Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under SPECIFIC AND LIMITED CONDITIONS, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,”.

            The clause is also known as the Enclave Clause. Again, I suggest you study up on it.

          • James Scott

            Already have, and I don’t agree with your interpretation.

          • GigsUp

            it’s not an interpretation and if you read it you would know I CITED IT.
            shove me the ACT or BILL approved by Congress and signed by a President for any of Harry’s acts or the BLMs.
            *hint* THERE ARE NONE

          • James Scott

            Sorry, but it IS an interpretation, and one with which I do not agree.

          • GigsUp

            The entire world now knows that the BLM actions (past ranchers as well) were the direct result of Harry’s illegal and unconstitutional acts and they all colluded and conspired in these acts together.

            Since I have now deduced that you are not remotely familiar with the law, let me give you a start lol:

            http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Coercion

          • James Scott

            Sorry to inform you, but the “entire world” doesn’t know any such thing — and neither do you. Nobody here in the East even heard anything about all this until last week.

          • GigsUp

            You slipping James:
            now (knows)
            at present time: at the present time, often as opposed to in the past or in the future
            immediately: at once or at this exact time
            given current situation: under the present circumstances
            (until last week) is not now, it is the past
            lol

          • James Scott

            You’re lapsing into incoherency.

          • Raymond Tower

            Again members of Congress already are. To bad for you. Because it is Congress, not the courts and attorneys that deal with this. Try reading the Constitution.

          • GigsUp

            I find it rather humorous that James doesn’t consider another country attempting to enter into an illegal contract in order to steal land an “enemy of the State” don’t you?
            lololol

          • James Scott

            Haven’t gotten very far, have they?

          • Raymond Tower

            November is coming. Reid’s un-constitutional activities, preventing bills coming to the floor for vote will come to an end.

          • Raymond Tower

            How much is Reid paying you to be his mouth piece?

          • James Scott

            Nothing, unfortunately. I’ve seen him a couple of times on TV, but I really don’t even know anything about him — so, before branding him a “criminal,” I’d like to see some evidence. I’d like to hear his defense. Sounds like a trial, with evidence, is something you’re completely against. Why is that, I wonder?

          • Raymond Tower

            What you would like to see or not see, matters not. Charges are pending and an investigation is under way, with the corrupt AG trying to prevent evidence coming to light.
            But then you are a libtard and talking to a libtard is like talking to a brick wall. Doesn’t matter what evidence gets presented, idiots like you will look the other way.

          • James Scott

            Ah, the last strategy of the playground: ad hominem insults.

          • GigsUp

            and you just proved exactly what he said:
            “…talking to a brick wall. Doesn’t matter what evidence gets presented, idiots like you will look the other way.”
            Since you apparently dismissed his entire first paragraph lol.
            I will give you credit in your persistence albeit naïve and honestly to many Americans it is beginning to embarrass us to be honest. We also find it very difficult to believe individuals like you either don’t realize how ridicules your assertions are, or are intentionally attempting to deceive.

          • James Scott

            There have been only accusations presented, not one bit of evidence. By the way, do you even know what “ridicules” means?

          • GigsUp

            Oh silly James. Your intent to completely flood this comment thread with dribble was almost a success… accept I don’t think you counted on so many debunking your every post.
            PS: we can read all your other post dear, we see that you are quite the name caller so now I will also point out that not only are you full of it, but you are a hypocrite and contradictive as well.
            Part of the training or are you just another completely brainwashed victim, out attempting to make more victims like a good little student?
            lolol
            Good night =)~

          • GigsUp

            yes do you?

            speech or action intended to cause contemptuous laughter at a person or thing

          • GigsUp

            a friend just helped out:

            WTF…Senator Reid and his BLM appointee to run the Bureau are the main culprits for the land grab…here is the PROOF! They were willing to have somebody killed in order for them to push their sweetheart deal with Communist China, on American soil, at the expense of Americans!

            The Obama administration and their cabal are the worst thing that has ever happened to America. The NRA has my greatest respect now. Armed Americans will never let their government just push them around unchecked.

            https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2014/03/17/2014-05633/notice-seeking-public-interest-for-solar-energy-development-on-public-lands-in-the-dry-lake-solar

            You might have to copy paste that link, actually right click on it and open in another window works.

          • GigsUp

            again, the State NEVER relinquished this land, it was parceled off and the rights of ownership was given to the ranchers.

          • James Scott

            Fortunately, the NRA has no say about it…and neither do you.

          • Raymond Tower

            “What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            to James Madison

          • JoJo58

            You wouldn’t know it based on the crap liberals are doing. Oh, that’s right….liberals go by their set of rules, which is above the law.

          • James Scott

            Liberals aren’t the ones waving guns and threatening people in order to help a farmer steal land from the rest of America.

          • JoJo58

            LOL. The land was purchased back in the 1870′s.
            Statement from Shirlee Bundy-
            *******************************************

            “I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight.
            Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much
            to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights
            to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then
            he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.
            These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built
            waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all
            with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use
            is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows
            from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were
            supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while
            the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM
            wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad
            did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer
            using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using
            these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the
            ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees.

            When
            they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then
            fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM
            but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned
            down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own
            improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In
            essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying
            him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve
            already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either,
            so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven
            to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It’s come down
            to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff.
            Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the
            constitution of the United States of America.

            Now you may be
            saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll
            tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on
            the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no
            one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah
            is next. Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment
            being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong
            to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd
            has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the
            BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove
            them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s
            signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which
            is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the
            Richfeild Auction and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid
            off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada
            brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this
            is it in a nut shell.

            The only reason there is an interest in this land is Harry Reid. He and his son want 9000 acres of land for the Chinese….and to line their pockets.
            http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831

            Liberals aren’t waiving guns, they’re busy working to TAKE guns from citizens so they won’t be able to stand up for themselves.

          • James Scott

            You are incorrect. The land was stolen back in the 1870s.

          • JoJo58

            This is the problem with debating with liberals. They lack the ability to process logic and reason.

            You’re just a little troll that likes to argue. Go trot off to the koolaid mothership (aka MSNBC or mother jones) so you’ll know what to think and say tomorrow.

          • James Scott

            The problem with attempting to debate conservatives is their inability to focus on any given subject or to back up their paranoid delusions with any fact. By the way, I don’t read Mother Jones or watch MSNBC.

          • lovinspoonful

            Terrific You just described the liberals.

          • Raymond Tower

            Here is the Ultimate Law of the Land. This is what is allowed in accordance to Article 1, section 8 and section 9. The BLM has no Constitutional Authority

            Section. 8.

            The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

            To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

            To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

            To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

            To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

            To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

            To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

            To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

            To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

            To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

            To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

            To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

            To provide and maintain a Navy;

            To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

            To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

            To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

            To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And

            To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

            Section. 9.

            The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

            The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

            No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

            No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

            No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

            No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

            No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

            No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

          • James Scott

            Unfortunately, you seem not to have read your own post:

            ” …and to exercise like Authority over
            all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in
            which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; and to make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this
            Constitution in the Government of the United States ;;;”

            The authority for federal ownership of land is rooted old and deep in our laws and our traditions, and pretending it’s not isn’t going to change anything.

          • Raymond Tower

            Purchased is the key word. This land was not purchased, instead they laid claim to it by erroneous environmental laws and “protecting” a tortuous that they are now killing off.t The land belongs to the State of Nevada and The Bundy’s. Land that was purchased by The Bundy’s forefathers.

          • James Scott

            I don’t understand the term “torturous,” outside of its context of pain and suffering.

          • kirkpatrick

            So the Indians should get it, not the Jews.

          • James Scott

            So now Harry Reid’s Jewish, or are you claiming Israel’s involved?

          • debbie

            Geez you’re dumb !!!

          • James Scott

            I will admit I’m having difficulty following the insane ranting. First Harry Reid wants the land, then the Chinese want the land, and now the Jews want the land. Does it change by the hour?

          • debbie

            You are a troll that doesn’t know anything about honor.

          • James Scott

            You certainly seem filled with anger and hatred, for no good reason. Perhaps you should seek counseling.

          • lindyb

            UFJAMES SCOTT, WHERE IS YOUR PROUF THAT IT WAS STOLEN?ARE YOU BEING PAID BY HARRY REID TO TELL LIES?

          • James Scott

            I’ve never met Mr. Reid. However, if by “prouf” you mean “proof,” it’s in every American history book in existence that most of Nevada had been stolen from its rightful owners by 1868.

          • James Scott

            But it was stolen land when they bought it. If they — and you — are so concerned with doing the right thing, why not give it back to the descendants of the rightful owners?

          • kirkpatrick

            @ James Scott (Paid BLM Shill): Bundy is stealing land from America? How many taxes do you think he’s paid since 1870 when his great grandfather CREATED that land out of a useless desert? He offered to pay the taxes to the County. Why should America get $1M in bogus fees because of some rule a bunch of unelected Jewish banksters in NY invented in 1993? And don’t think 20 years from now we won’t see the NDAA Sections 1021 that Obama signed 12/31/11 aggressively enforced one day, with people like you saying anyone who doesn’t like it is a criminal.

          • James Scott

            The NDAA has nothing to do with this discussion. There are aspects of all laws that somebody’s not gong to like, but you don’t start waiving guns around. You hire attorneys and go about it in a civilized way. Evidently, this man did, and lost in court. I’ve lost in court, too. Those are the breaks. You live with it

          • debbie

            We don’t wave guns , we have guns to protect ourselves from the snipers they put up on the ridges. Check your facts. We all have guns to protect ourselves and our families. So did it piss you off because we were not helpless when they came with their guns. We will always have guns !!! It is our right !

          • James Scott

            Nonsense. If they’d wanted you, they’d have taken you, and there would have been nothing you could have done about it.

          • Raymond Tower

            You seem to fail to understand that the Federal Government has no Constitutional authority over any land. This land is the State of Nevada’s that the Feds un-constitutionally claim is theirs.

          • James Scott

            You’re welcome to believe that, but you would be tragically wrong.

          • Raymond Tower

            Am I. I have Article 1 Sections 8 and 9 to back me up. What do you have?

          • James Scott

            I believe it’s the very same sections, which you seem to have no comprehension of whatsoever.

          • kirkpatrick

            Specific charges James? Like getting cow poop on turtles in a non-Nuke zone?

          • Guest

            I don’t think that’ll stand up in court.

          • kirkpatrick

            Yeah, the courts don’t care about things like those 220 Pakistani children killed by the drone strikes that Obama ordered.

          • James Scott

            Immaterial. Our courts have no international jurisdiction.

          • lovinspoonful

            Unfortunately for you, you don’t know what you are talking about. You are just talking off the top of your head and you sound pretty ignorant.

          • James Scott

            If by that you mean it’s not apparent to me why any American should be summarily executed without the benefit of trial, but just because ar armed mob doesn’t like him, yes, I’m pretty ignorant of what law allows you to do that.

          • kirkpatrick

            James, funny how you are only concerned with SOME laws. Those pesky Constitutional laws meanwhile seem to get in your way. Who elected the BLM to begin with? Who voted on the 1993 law to begin with?

          • James Scott

            The BLM is not elected; its officers are chosen.

          • lovinspoonful

            What world are you living in? It has been all over the news, the newspapers, etc.

          • James Scott

            I’m afraid you’re wrong about that.

          • lovinspoonful

            You need to listen to the news. It is not somebody else’s job to explain to you what is going on. You are just being bull-headed and about it. As far as the federal agents coming into Nevada with guns and tasers and trying to hurt people, they did not belong there. The land belongs to the state of Nevada – not the federal government.

          • James Scott

            Not according to the law. According to the law, the federal agents had every right to be there. It’s armed insurgents who didn’t have the right.

          • Subcomandante Goatz

            You keep trying to reason with sheep that have little interest in facts, and don’t even bother to fact-check the very propaganda they spread. Conservatives believe in authority only when they are part of the power structure. Since they can not accept that our President is part African-American, they refuse to recognize his legitimacy, and support any moderately affluent white criminal who resists the just actions of our government.

            A great example is the vast number of conservatives who still condemn Australian liberal Jullian Assange, and American Pvt. Chelsea Manning for their breaches of secrecy, yet support Ron Paul supporter Edward Snowden for handing classified intelligence to the governments of Red China and Russia.

          • James Scott

            Hey, you should live in South Carolina. I’m surrounded by loons who really think they can bring back the Confederacy and slavery.

          • Subcomandante Goatz

            No thank you! I am too happy working my high-tech job here in the leftist utopia of Seattle, here in the Soviet of Washington, where we have a married gay man for a mayor, an open Socialist on our non-partisan city council. and the police were handing out Doritos at last year’s Hempfest. I’m not interested in living in a state that does not realize that the only day in Confederate History Month is the anniversary of the day General Lee surrendered at Appomattox Court House.

          • James Scott

            What gets me is the blatant un-Americanism of wanting to resort to mob rule by guns. Everybody has complaints and nothing is ever perfect, but we have made a compact that things are not decided by the villagers with their pitchforks; they are decided by elections and courts. I don’t particularly like that the Supreme Court has decided it’s A-okay to bribe politicians with any amount of money you want, but that’s the way it is, and I certainly don’t advocate dragging out the Justices to the guillotine for it.

          • Subcomandante Goatz

            We are talking about the same crowd who started talking about Second Amendment solutions as soon as they lost and elections they could not rig, and a black man started doing many of the same things his Republican predecessor did,

          • James Scott

            You are correct. They even seem oblivious to the fact that “Obamacare” was primarily thought up by rich, white insurance executives who are ANYTHING but “socialist.” They just turned against it when the black guy decided he’d go along with it.

          • Subcomandante Goatz

            Exactly. the bulk of the ACA, especially the coercive mandates for consumers. came straight from the Heritage Foundation,

          • nifongnation

            Not illegal aliens.

          • James Scott

            So now Holder and Reid are illegal aliens? Where do you get this stuff?

          • JoJo58

            You don’t have a news source in your area? Where have you been for the past five years, sipping the koolaid? The only reason Reid, Holder, Obama, Baucus, Franken, Schumer, Kerry, Hillary, etc haven’t been arrested is because they have been covering up their crimes with the help Eric Holder suppressing information and the help of the media. The low information crowd just parrots whatever they’re told to say.

          • James Scott

            So can you name a crime, or not?

          • JoJo58

            There are so many crimes involved with Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, and NSA (just to name a FEW of the scandals/crimes) I don’t have the time to list each one. Besides, being the anal liberal that you are, you’re blind to the truth. You’re such a good little Nazi.

          • James Scott

            If there are “so many,” then you should have no problem naming one. Just one.

          • lovinspoonful

            He just did name several. Can’t
            you read?

          • James Scott

            He didn’t name a single one. He spouted a list of nouns. Those are not charges. You have to file charges in court, not parrot nouns.

          • RA

            He did! Are you a joke or what?

          • James Scott

            He didn’t name anything. he rattled off a bunch of place names and nouns. In order to prosecute, you have to have a specific crime and charge, not just blurt out “Raleigh, North Carolina!”

          • lovinspoonful

            Add to that the Bundy ranch. Also, the support of, and the money sent to, terrorists.

          • kirkpatrick

            How about passing Obamacare.

          • James Scott

            Not a crime just because you don’t like it.

          • Raymond Tower

            Simple. Violation of separation of powers. Only Congress has the power to legislate, not the wannabe dictator. Each change made to the ACA via the pen and phone, is an un-Constitutional change. The president does not have the power to delay nor change any law.

            In fact he has a Constitutional and legal obligation to execute law. Each delay Obama has enacted via executive order, is a crime.

            Article. I. Section. 1.

            All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

          • lovinspoonful

            Only congress can change an existing law. The president cannot do so and Obama has done it 38 times by Executive Order. That is illegal.

          • Raymond Tower

            I believe you have just given the above individual 38 individual crimes. :)

          • James Scott

            That’s not true. Mr. Obama is entirely within his prerogative as President, just as was Mr. Bush.

          • Raymond Tower

            Executive orders are constitutional if they do not make or change law. It’s just to bad the Constitution is standing in the way of your progressive liberal mind.
            The executive orders of Bush did not make or attempt to change law, as this farce of a president has done. 32 criminal acts regarding the ACA, limited amnesty via executive order (crime 33), only Congress has the power to change or enact immigration law.

          • James Scott

            Then quit ranting and bring the appropriate charges in federal court.

          • Raymond Tower

            Try again. It is Congress that needs to get off their ass and bring charges, and Impeaching him. It is the libtards in the Senate standing in the way of this Constitutional Obligation. Articles of Impeachment are already being drawn up.

          • James Scott

            Don’t you have to have some charges first?

          • Raymond Tower

            You really are as dumb as you sound. I’ve already outlined the charges. 33 individual charges.

          • James Scott

            None of which are true. I guess I forgot to add that that charges have not only to be true, but provable.

          • Raymond Tower

            You really must be blind. There is enough video evidence from the news networks alone.
            This is the law of the land. Period

            http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

          • James Scott

            News reports don’t qualify as “proof.” You have to have something more concrete than that.

          • lovinspoonful

            I will add Schumer, Pelosi, Cummings, Jarret, Watters, Boxer, Wasserman-Schulz, mayor of New York, etc.

          • kirkpatrick

            What crime was the pregnant woman who the BLM tased charged with? Stepping out side the Free Speech Zone your boss set up? Note that James Scott has 100 comments and is the only one who sides with the BLM.

          • James Scott

            All of this is beside the point, which is you claimed that Harry Reid should be summarily executed for his crimes. Aside from the fact that we don’t practice summary execution, I’m asking you to enumerate the crimes for which you believe Reid should be arrested, and so far you don’t seem to know of any.

          • RA

            Yes and that’s the problem. We have bo, hillery, reid, and holder. All of them have committed crimes against US constitutional law and the American people. The problem is no will enforce the law and hold them accountable. It also doesn’t help when you have a national propaganda machine like the liberal media misleading people into thinking these people can’t be touched .

          • James Scott

            There is no “liberal media.” That’s a myth.

          • RA

            Said by you a liberal. Denial of the truth.

          • James Scott

            Experience. I’ve worked in motion pictures, radio, television, and newspapers. Don’t be mislead by what a handful of actors or singers might say; the people who own and control the media tend to be very conservative, and the only “agenda” they’re interested in in selling airtime.

          • RA

            Congrats to you! I’m confused by that statement considering MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS etc. are the opposite of conservative and very supportive of BO and associates with their coverage of things like obamacare, fast and furious, etc. They are also the ones who continuously attack the GOP/conservatives in everything they bring out about the corruption in our gov.

          • James Scott

            You’re being a bit paranoid.

          • RA

            You are being very deceitful and disingenuous. Of course you already know that.
            Like I said in my response in another of your evasive replies. Truth, principle, and human nature shows your true colors.

          • RA

            Why no response to the core statement I made? Crimes committed by bo and crew. You only mention “there’s no liberal media”. I’ll bet you think al Sharpton is the salt of the earth and not a criminal either.

          • James Scott

            I don’t really know anything about Al Sharpton. What crimes has HE committed?

          • http://batman-news.com Mr. Bizy

            apparently not…happens all the time…watch much news lately?

          • James Scott

            I try not to. If I have time to watch TV, I prefer NatGeo or Animal Planet or, occasionally, Turner Classic Movies.

          • RA

            I already made that point to him but he refuses to acknowledge that fact. He figures if he doesn’t respond to those parts of your statements then they don’t count. I’m s

          • pyrodice

            Cattle rustling used to be a HANGING crime. Just saying. FWIW, so did claim jumping.

          • Oldtex

            Not under NDAA and Obama’s executive orders.

        • FriendofThom

          Been nuts long?

    • elmcqueen3

      Dirty Harry Reid goes back to the days when organized crime controlled the Casino’s in Las Vegas….Supposedly they still do…Today they are legal corporations…Dirty Harry was on the Nevda Gaming Commission…Insider politics and land deals made made Dirty Harry a very rich man with lots of clout on either side of the fence…He a learned political con man from days of old…I’m sure he knows where a lot of bodies are buried…Probably on his land!

      • blondie5422

        Had more respect for the old “Mob’ .At least with them. you know where you stand.These big, corrupt corporations are WAY more sinister and evil!

        • SusieQ

          I guess you could say you just got whacked once by them the politicians keep whacking everyone over and over.

      • M.R. Canon

        I think the dirty part of harry’s name came from his having an affair with Mitch McConnell’s wife. The affair broke up their marriage and left McConnell with three children to care for by himself, as I understand. Fortunately, he later married a lovely woman who was faithful.

        • jtak101

          WOW..talk about a woman who knows how to pick ‘em!!. an affair with harry..Oh God that’s more than I can fathom!!!

          • magic1114

            Or stomach…

          • nifongnation

            At least he didn’t have an affair with Nancy Napolitano.

        • David Tierney

          McConnell is no bargain either. He is a Rino in the McCain vein

        • kacee

          Yeah never trust a Mormon with your wife. Lucky we didn’t end up with the other Mormon as president

          • Tamra Farr Jackson

            Never lump a corrupt man with others of the same religion.

          • kacee

            your right how dare me compare Harry Reid in with the corrupt

          • borrowedladder28

            It’s ‘you’re’, not ‘your’. Careful…your lack of an education is showing through.

          • Andy Z

            Because you and your ilk couldn’t stand a Mormon you helped elect a COMMIE Kenyan instead

          • kacee

            I happen to be a Mormon and you andy are a nut job

          • borrowedladder28

            Somehow, I seriously doubt it.

          • Andy Z

            I guess I am a nut job because you people would rather vote 3rd party which is a defacto vote for the Democrats in a critical election So by your voting for some unknown that didsn’t stand a chance you let a Muslim become president instead of the Mormon BTW Jerk I voted for the Mormon I also voted for the senile Vietnam Vet to try and stop the Muslim Socialist from obtaining the office of President

          • curmudgeon

            The lesser of two evils in both cases. Both choices evil BTW!

          • Andy Z

            But the more evil of the two gave you Obamacare, Eric Holder,the EPA gone wild and this is just off the top of my head. Stay with your beliefs and we will be a Communist country before you know it If the lesser of two evils saves us from that maybe we can get enough Rand Paul’s and Trey Gaudy’s elected on the State level to stop this stuff Third parties today have no one in a National elected office no matter how many of you throw away your votes that would be better spent in the Republican primaries on Conservative people Ron Paul figured that out eventually

          • Brian Kelsey

            As the Chief Executive of his State Romney gave the citizens of Massachusetts Romney-care and its individual mandate. Evil is evil. There are no degrees.

            Republicans rarely represent my views and when they do its just for show. A vote is wasted if it is given to someone who does not represent your views of government.

          • Andy Z

            You Zelots don’t want a better country you just want to feel smug in your own perfect idea of right and wrong and would rather see another Hitler take over this country rather than compromise your morales the world is not black and white. I to was once a Democrat programmed by the Philadelphia public schools it took me 20 years to overcome this and become a Libertarian. To vote for Ron Paul in a Republican primary I changed my affiliation. I then took his lead and started to try and change the Republican party by voting conservative in their primaries good luck with your position at least your vote won’t count for either side Brian

          • curmudgeon

            Don’t know where you’re coming from. Neither was my preferred candidate, but I did vote for both with my nose held between my fingers. It’s the third party candidates (backed by stealth liberal groups) and the single issue Republicans who sat on their thumbs at home who gave us Obonzo, not once, but twice. Apparently you had no clue as to my beliefs. I want a TRUE CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE, not a liberal democRAT lite RINO.

          • Andy Z

            Your earlier posts gave me the impression that you were not a realist and vote 3rd party in all elections. In most cases I like the the same but we don’t ever get the chance in a national election the only chance I can see is to take the Republican party that way the Democrats are already to far gone

          • curmudgeon

            I seriously doubt that our views on politics are very far apart.

          • Brian Kelsey

            “vote 3rd party which is a defacto vote for the Democrat”

            This is the biggest crock of dung. Before I started voting Libertarian I voted Democrat. So the Third Party took my vote from Democrats.

            Stop drinking kool-aid.

          • Charles

            I suppose I could not trust an Irish Catholic President who was a notorious womanizer, JFK, very well documented, who actually had some positive abilities as president. How about the President who said “I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski”. Another non Mormon, very well known for attacks on not just one woman but many, again documented. Perhaps another who professes one thing and does another, our current fearless leader who said he was a Christian and is actually a Muslim who says he’s against gun control to get elected and has done nothing but try to force anti gun legislation on us. There are allegations he is actually gay. I dare say there are more Catholics and Protestants who are every bit as much adulterers and fornicators, more and worse of what you purport to believe about Mormons. A good and honest man was not elected this last time around because way to many people favored a corrupt and evil, non American instead. You trust this man Obama? He has done more to destroy this nation than any one man in my lifetime, he is not his own man. Yes he has the help of Harry Reid a man who claims to be and is listed as a Mormon. Some Mormons are no different than the others who say they are one thing but are another. In my book Reid is one of those. You watch, Reid will cause his own demise politically, religiously and hang himself doing it. We have all be given the right to choose what we do in life, some choose to live a lie. It catches up eventually.

          • kacee

            Charles I don’t know where to start and I may have until I realized you were a crazy when you started in with Obama the muslim talk. That says it all about you. P.S. I am a Mormon who lives in the Utah Nevada area in question.

          • borrowedladder28

            It’s on par with what was said about Bush and his Administration by the social liberals. BTW…what’s the difference between a social liberal and a social conservative? Trick question…there is no difference. Both are fiscally irresponsible and like to tell others what to do.

          • Charles

            LDS Missourian. Thank you.

          • borrowedladder28

            Actually, I wouldn’t call Reid a ‘Mormon’ either. An opportunist would be a more appropriate term for him.

          • curmudgeon

            Reid is a Mormon in the same manner that Obonzo is a Christian, Schumer, Levin (S) Finestein are Jews and Pelosi, Biden and Leahy are Roman Catholic. All are members of organized religious sects strictly for the opportunity to harvest votes from their co-religious and remain in power.

        • James Scott

          That’s preposterous nonsense and never happened. It was a joke told in the satirical publication “The Onion,” and only an idiot would take it seriously.

        • mogul264

          What? With a little weasel who looks like Gollum (Lord of the Rings)? Did she have NO self-respect?

      • jime1

        Bet on it!

    • amyshulk

      Hey everybody, keep blaming those of us who did NOT vote for that old cheat. Think voter fraud before voter ignorance!

      • SusieQ

        Sorry if I put you in that category, hopefully your state has or will institute voter fraud laws and voter ID. I would say the unions had quite a bit to do with Harry’s re-election. People sure wonder what goes on that this man keeps getting in office.

        • cattnipp

          of course the top 10 unions in the entire USA spent less combined than the Koch brothers did on each of the last 5 elections…… but it is the unions not the Kochs that are influencing the government ??? put down the kool-aid, you have had enough

          • SusieQ

            Everyone’s heard those fairy-tales but keep on telling them one day fairy- tales will come true.

          • mogul264

            Yeah, and they said that about ray guns (LASERS) which can burn through you, and voyages to the MOON! All obviously fairy tales!

          • SusieQ

            Well, guess Mr. Disney was wrong but sorry the theory Mr. Catnip alluded to has already been debunked. Awwwww…

          • Tamra Farr Jackson

            uh….we did go to the moon….oh wait, you’re probably one of those who doesn’t believe that either…..

          • Andy Z

            How come all these Koch haters forget about Soros and most of Hollywood not to mention Warren Buffet also a big democrat and Obummer supporter

          • SusieQ

            The American Trial Lawyers Association is another one, about 95% of their contributions goes to the democratic party, wonder why?

          • Raymond Tower

            Your facts are way off base. Koch industries is way down on the list.

          • puttsnone

            You obviously are an uninformed idiot or a liberal propagandist. Kochs have not come near to the amounts of the Unions. BUT, I HOPE THEY DO NOW THAT THE LAW HAS CHANGED. You have Soros and other Socialist thugs trying to bring down America. You just don’t like Pro American Capitalists that can compete. Such a hypocrite.

          • MeanieHead

            Why the obsession with Koch Bros and not Soros?????? You libs are so full of oozing hypocrisy.

          • mogul264

            Of course not JUST the unions! They are just the fetch and carry scum who do the public dirty work! At the instigation of their leaders, of course, who are in bed with the Demoncraps, and Soros, who puts the Kochs in the kiddey pool by comparison! Funny you don’t mention HIM!

          • Todd Hill
          • derpleton

            Voter fraud is a myth, and the unions arent the devil but George Soros balances out the Kochs pretty well.

          • David

            You are nothing but a liar and propagandist….. Here is the truth behind political donations….
            Over
            the past twenty five years, from 1989 to 2014, Koch Industries has
            donated $18,083,948 in political contributions to Republicans. While
            that seems like a large sum, it only ranks them as number 59 on the list
            of top all-time political donors – behind 18 different unions.
            Here is the list of unions that top the Koch Brothers in political donations.
            Via Open Secrets:

            2.) American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,667,379
            4.) National Education Assn $53,594,488
            7.) Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,478,789
            8.) United Auto Workers $41,667,858
            9.) Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,260,371
            10.) Service Employees International Union $38,395,690
            11.) Laborers Union $37,494,010
            12.) American Federation of Teachers $36,713,325
            13.) Communications Workers of America $36,188,135
            14.) Teamsters Union $36,123,209
            16.) United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,756,550
            20.) Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,313,097
            23.) AFL-CIO $30,938,977
            32.) National Assn of Letter Carriers $26,106,359
            39.) Plumbers & Pipefitters Union $23,886,248
            42.) Operating Engineers Union $23,036,848
            43.) International Assn of Fire Fighters $22,963,260
            46.) Sheet Metal Workers Union $22,372,978
            59.) Koch Industries $18,083,948

          • borrowedladder28

            I’m calling BS on that one. Source, please. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the top all-time donors are either unions or strong leaning DNC PACs. The top contributor is ActBlue. Koch Industries only registers as #59 on the list. Before you even go off, the Center for Responsive Politics is a non-profit, nonpartisan research group based in DC that tracks the effects of money and lobbying on elections public policy.

          • curmudgeon

            Are you seriously that naive? Your business agent must have sold you your own gallon of Koolaid. BTW, ever hear of George Soros and the Steyer brothers or just doing the usual liberal job of accusing the opposition of the acts your party is guilty of? You must roll in democRAT cat nip? free stuff paid for with other people’s money?

        • amyshulk

          I get the *why*, but seeing “I refuse to travel to Las Vegas” and “shun the idjits in NV” and the like, which really hurts those of us hanging on by our fingernails, gets really tiresome.

          I agree the root problem is cronyism, with public sector & gov’t officials on the same side of the bargaining table across from us taxpayers, and suspicious last minute surges in polls after a “You OWE me” memo is sent, along with huge influxes of former Californians and illegals – that’s why I did not vote for Reid.

          Until/unless we can restore the rule of law, and abolish public sector unions, it will continue.

          • SusieQ

            Like separation of church and state it would behoove this nation to have separation of union and state. it is way too cozy.

        • Raymond Tower

          I heard a gentleman last night on Mark Levin stating that the casino owners bused people to the polls with a list who and what to vote for. Can you say big time voter fraud.

          • kacee

            was that Sheldon Addelson or Steve Wynn?

          • Doug

            Shelley Adelson is a huge GOP contributor.

        • Mathematical certainty

          After retiring In 2008 from a corporation in upstate NY, I relocated to Las Vegas, NV. I thought NY contained all of the frauds, thieves, and corrupt politicians. Then came NV politics!
          reid and his crony union buddies stole the election in 2012. reids opponent Sharon Angle was 5 points ahead of reid two weeks prior to the election. Electronic, and absentee, balloting were corrupted to the nth degree. Names of the dead came to life. Dogs, cats, desert rabbits, whether alive or dead, flooded the ballot boxes for reid. Votes for Angle were automatically recorded for reid. Complaints were registered and the responses were always the same “we will look into it”. Ergo, Sharon was put to pasture and you know the rest of the story. In addition to being a senile old man and an ex-punch-drunk boxer he is one of the most corrupt Neanderthals in politics. He was torpedoed from the womb, as corrupt. He is devoid of all of the characteristics that makes a man or woman “GOOD”.
          Now, do not ask me what I really feel about this Troglodyte.

          • SusieQ

            I too lived in upstate NY for two years being sent there because of a job transfer, I know exactly what you are talking about. There are some of the most rotten govt. practices around in that state and most of the people I knew from there did not agree with it but NY City rules you know. Never lived in Las Vegas but learning a lot after this.

          • mogul264

            Time to cut the densely populated cities loose if they CONSISTENTLY vote against the rest of the state! Maybe if NY cuts NYC loose. we’d see if NYC can survive on it’s own! Personally, I doubt it! Too many with their hands out living in the Big Apple!

          • Andy Z

            Take NYC and Philly and give them to New Jersey Which already so solidly blue that they can only elect Dems and RINO’s

          • iolani64

            Do you have proof for you accusations, ie, votes for angle were automatically recorded for Reid. Republicans are either to young to know any better or to old to care.

          • Mathematical certainty

            You probably lack the ability to read or research the 2012 election results, so I suggest that you have someone with the capability to do so. He or she will discover the corruption that surrounded the election fiasco.

          • iolani64

            As a former math teacher at a very well respected school I have that ability. I have been self employed for the last 30 years making a pretty good living. I stumbled on this web page while reading something that went back to Bizpac Review. Found out that it’s just another bunch of unhappy conservatives down in florida who are probably zimmermann fan club members.

          • Mathematical certainty

            When you obtain a PhD. in Theoretical Mathematics, and teach Post-Graduate students in Physics and Mathematics, you have my permission to return to this site. Until that time, clutter your mind with tales from Bizpac Review.

          • MeanieHead

            And Democrats are too dishonest to be taken seriously.

          • mogul264

            When any who would be investigating are part of or work for the bunch who were ‘elected’ do you HONESTLY expect they would find ANY illegal procedures? ANY, WHATSOEVER?

      • BlueViolets

        As an Illinoisan I can understand where you’re coming from. I get lumped with the obama folks all the time. People seem to think Chicago and Cook County cover the whole state. They just happen to have the largest population and the most Democrats.

        • Rene Thompson

          I’m from California….we get the worst of it. Just because the state is run by democrats doesn’t mean there aren’t A LOT of conservatives in California. We are just out voted by the illegals.

          • frank papcin

            check your pole numbers and see what percentage of the eligible voters actually do.–below 50% ?
            –the only ones pushing for the people to vote are democrats.

          • Well Done

            The Dems vote for people to vote… soon and often.

          • BlueViolets

            We’re out voted by the dead and dogs. I often wonder in how many polling places my staunch but dead relatives have voted in for the last 60 years. Most of Illinois is Republican except for Cook County and a few small pockets here and there but as in California the Republicans are out numbered. They also like to shift the district lines like they did last election. It shifted so that the Rep that I was happy with was no longer in my district and am now represented by a total obama lover.

          • cattnipp

            it’s the GOP that gerrymanders the districts…….. but of course blame the Democrats just like Louisiana conservatives are blaming Obama for the Bush government ignoring them after hurricane Katrina 4 full years before Obama came in office—- but they swear it was Obama’s fault.

          • SusieQ

            We all know nothing is Obama’s fault, nothing, so you did your job , thanks.

          • bill

            Obama is a LYING DOG, COMMIE along with Holder, Reid, Pelosi and on and on!! You’re just a brainless fart who stands in line for your FREEBIES while your Cult leader Obama and his Cult followers destroy our nation, while the rest of the world is laughing at us you FOOL..

          • iolani64

            Remember when Bush stood on an carrier looking macho talking of victory? Pres. Obama got Bin Laden. I could go on and on but the people who write to this site seem to be lacking in education and are just a bunch of teabaggers. WTF

          • bill

            He didn’t get B Ladin..OUR military did you FOOL!!

          • bill

            TEA PARTY RULZZZZ!!

          • iolani64

            that’s like saying losers rulzzz!!

          • bill

            NO It’s OBAMA CULT MEMBERS like YOU LOZZZZ! HMMM-HMMM-HMMM-HMMM !!

          • MeanieHead

            And Obama got FOUR AMERICANS in Benghazi, too….ya diptard.,

          • Well Done

            0bama had nothing to do with offing bin Laden. As been shown over and over, the “mission accomplished” was the banner the ships’ crew put up to announce that their mission, was, indeed, over. That’s why they were back in their home port. Bush said nothing of any “victory” and, if you think he looked macho, maybe you should drop him a line? You never know! But, go ahead and reveal your lack of knowledge and education. Looks too fun when you say that right after proving how little you know!

          • Andy Z

            I think killing BinLaden was a mistake if they khew where he was with our current evesdripping equipment we could have had a leg up on most terrorist operations in the area Obama was cutting off a security leak for his Muslim Brothers

          • Dike Mickinson

            Senate seats represent an entire state, moron. You just accused the Republicans of redrawing STATE BORDERS? Seriously? Get back under your rock. Grownups are talking here.

          • kacee

            Uh your a special kind of stupid grownup. You probably should do a little more research before you open your mouth and remove any doubt of stupid.

          • Andy Z

            You are living proof that Mike the Headless Chicken isn’t the only one to survive in that condition

          • kacee

            Didn’t you watch FAUX news the other day. Obama put an iceberg in front of the Titanic. Freaking Obama

          • MeanieHead

            Not only did you hog the Kool-Aid, you hogged the heroin too, apparently.

          • puttsnone

            Gosh. There really are people out there that believe things like this. No wonder our nation is going to hell in a hand basket. What fools.

          • MeanieHead

            Are you really that big of an idiot to blame Bush for Katrina? Everyone (with a brain cell) knows that the GOVERNOR (who now holds a democrat senate seat) didn’t ASK for federal help right away. She was ignorant enough to think she could handle it by herself. Then when the people wanted to string up by her thong strap, she called Bush.

          • Well Done

            LOL start out with a lie, then move on to outdated lies about Bush/Katrina. Wow. Dems are either getting desperate, or not getting the updated memo. Don’ you know you’re supposed to be trumpeting 0bamacare and “common sense gun laws”?

          • Mo B

            “just like Louisiana conservatives are blaming Obama for the Bush government ignoring them after hurricane Katrina 4 full years before Obama came in office”

            That’s HILLARIOUS because we Louisianans blame then Governor Kathleen Blanco, who REFUSED the offer of federal aid from Pres. Bush. Why in God’s name would we blame Obama? Just like a Democrat, trying to muddy the waters with misinformation.

          • mogul264

            In the case of Boss Tweed of Tammany Hall in NYC, one of the BIGGEST the political party was, strangely, the DEMOCRATS! Heck, they even named the process “Gerrymandering”, where ALL opposition voters are arranged where their votes are cancelled or ineffective, region-wise!

            When done by the GOP, this generally only results in a few points difference, whereas when by the Democrats, they seem to generate WHOLESALE LANDSLIDES of voters for their side, and who’s roll names seem to include the dead, multiple voting, animals, and cartoon figures!

            Sometimes, entire districts reflect NO VOTES. WHATSOEVER, for the opposition candidate(s), a statistical impossibility! This doesn’t happen with GOP meddling!

          • BlueViolets

            Amazing because my district for the last 42 years has elected a Republican but this last year with the newly changed lines we miraculously wound up with a Democrat. And that happened in all the districts that were changed. Amazing what the Republicans do to get Democrats elected.

          • iolani64

            excuses, excuses

        • mogul264

          All of you would-be Red State-rs who have a segment of Blue in a small area ‘wagging the dog’, think of cutting them loose! Re-divide your state! If ENOUGH seek to do this, it MAY get some attention! Most of these are composed of the layabout louts with their hands out, and NOT the EARNERS who actually pay! With no money then coming from the rest of the state, they will start realizing they must listen to others, occasionally!

          As this would be a STATES-RIGHTS matter, the Feds SHOULDN’T become involved!

          • Andy Z

            The blue area would never allow that because they suck the resources out of most of the state to support their cities

      • iolani64

        Only losers make excuses–blame fraud for the loss.

        • amyshulk

          I didn’t get that memo – so now Reid is a loser for blaming everything on Boooooooosh for all those years?

      • Dianne Hornick

        Voter fraud? Cite your sources please…

        • amyshulk

          Again, memo I got said accuse with abandon – or is it only D’s are allowed to do so?

    • iVillageIdiot

      “…he’d sell his grandma for a buck and a little more power.”

      He did. “She” was a desert tortoise.

      • Bill Gryan

        It’s not possible that his grandmother was a tortoise. A tortoise would have instilled Reid with better values.

    • SOD

      Whether even one person votes for him or not, he’s still going to keep the office. The Dems won’t allow their power “elite” to be exposed and then deposed.

      • Bill Gryan

        I feel bad for those members of the press that got called by their bosses this weekend to start writing stories to cover for Reid.

        • SOD

          Don’t…most of them wanted to be fiction writers anyway.

          • Bill Gryan

            LOL… ouch!

    • Tamra Farr Jackson

      not everyone in Nevada elects Harry Reid. LAS VEGAS elects Harry Reid.

      • SusieQ

        Probably like NY City controls the state of New York, it’s a shame. I see from these ranchers you people in Nevada are better than that.

        • cattnipp

          yep….. the rancher is claiming ownership of 600,000 acres of land, says it’s been owned by his family since 1870—– good, maybe he can pay all those back taxes on the land while he is at it…… even at $1 an acre per decade in taxes it would be over $9,000,000 owed in back taxes—- the man is an outright liar and you have no problem with him claiming a RIGHT to 600,000 acres of the taxpayers land because he is a white conservative blowhard.

          • SusieQ

            Are you Harry’s kid or something sure like to take up for that old lyin’ coot.

          • iolani64

            Suzie and Bill you are losing it. Stick to the issue of what Cattnipp wrote. Does the rancher own the land? No. Kick him off and send those teabaggers back to Montana or wherever they’re from. It’s time for the squatter to move on.

          • SusieQ

            So common sense? So liberal insanity to the nth degree. You know what I say Harry needs to climb on his ol’ horse and move, on even though he can hardly move. Bill is right , read more about the issue of this land. By the way in case you missed it the feds have left.

          • Bill Gryan

            Gee, I thought my direct refutation of Cattpiss’s assertion was a way of “sticking to the issue”?

            I would rather send you back to where you came from. The rancher, on the other hand, seems like a productive American whose family has been here for hundreds of years.

          • Blomsoy

            SusieQ, cattnipp and others shows total
            lack of knowledge of ‘land rights’ as there is a big difference between ‘owning’ the land and having ‘grazing rights’ on it.
            This reminds one of the Wayne Hage case,
            the Nevada rancher whose livelihood was under attack from federal agencies many
            years ago. He wrote a book titled “Storm
            over Range Lands” (which cattnipp may
            think has something to do with the weather). The book is now part of the
            Supreme Court’s library and an interesting
            read, especially for those with some sense of legal matters, the Constitution, and
            justice.

          • Bill Gryan

            He’s not claiming ownership of land. Sounds like you neglected to read up on this. What else is new.

          • Tamra Farr Jackson

            The land belongs to the state of Nevada, not the federal government. He offered to pay the grazing fee’s, but only to the state of Nevada. They refused the money. He does not recognize the federal government owning land in Nevada. They don’t. It’s a state thing. You do not know this man, and you have no right to call him a liar. You can believe what your liberal mind wants to, but no slander for Cliven Bundy. He is an honest man, and has had it with the government. It would be good for you to actually read what’s going on in Nevada so you might be able to understand our government is trespassing on STATE land.

          • Doug

            What does”…he’s had it with government ”
            mean? Does that give him the right to do whatever he wants?.

          • Tamra Farr Jackson

            I meant he’s had it with the government trespassing on his land – on Nevada state land, and thinking they can take whatever they want. He’s not doing “whatever he wants” he’s standing up for his rights as an American, against a corrupt government, state and federal.

          • puttsnone

            How someone can be so uninformed is terrifying. You have no idea what you are talking about. Everything you just wrote is absolutely, factually incorrect.

      • sputnik1

        Just like San Fran elects the likes of Piglosi. And the poor folks in upstate New York have to deal with the morons that are voted into office due to the rotten apple NYC.

      • DebsFriends

        I know the feeling: LA and San Francisco keeps electing Box and Feinstein.

      • Bob in Florida

        As others have said, and as most of the states with mostly rural areas and low populations densities, the major cities run the state. Las Vegas and the Reno/Tahoe areas decide how state politics go.

        We lived in Las vegas for 20 years – until 4 years ago – watched the influx of Californians bring their insane political ideas with them. Very glad to leave.

        Saw a great need for revamped and strengthened voter registration and voter ID laws.

        Now it is apparent that such changes are needed throughout the country. The advent and takeover of computers and electronic voting has made abuse of the election system far too easy and widespread!

      • David Tierney

        Why?

        • Tamra Farr Jackson

          Because Las Vegas has Unions. Unions run Las Vegas, and Vegas is big enough to elect the person(s) who will keep the unions. Probably Reno is the same. Those two cities rule Nevada.

    • Lilu Kanine

      It has been stated that the casinos bus people to the polls with a voting list, although the people of NV have tried to get the corrupt people out.

      • SusieQ

        Wow! didn’t know that, but it figures. I’m learning a lot about Nevada.

      • cattnipp

        WOW…. giving someone a ride to the polls…. how undemocratic is that?? —- it beats having armed members of the National Guard telling people they have ‘no business’ at the polling places and will be shot if they do not leave like Jeb Bush did in some low income Florida areas

        • SusieQ

          Everyone that is voting twice loves rides to the polls that way they don’t have to buy gas again and a free box lunch of bull sandwich goes along with the deal, very tasty. The black panther party didn’t turn up for those events complete with billy clubs , at least I don’t think.

    • Janet

      Susie q
      DIRTY HARRY AND S.E.I.U. AND LOCAL UNIONS IN VEGAS AND RENO WENT TO HEAVILY OCCUPIED HISPANICS NEIGHBOR HOODS AND REGISTER THEM MOSTLY ILLEGALS GAVE THEM BALLOTS WITH HIS NAME X’D ON HIS LAST 2 ELECTIONS. GAVE THEM INFO ON 3 DIFFERENT PRECICTS TO GO AND VOTE
      THEY GOT TO VOTE 3 TIMES AND THAT IS WHAT GOT HIM IN. HE IS ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT IN
      THE SENATE AND HIS SON RORY IS FOLLOWING
      IN HIS FATHERS FOOT STEPS.
      CORUPTION BREEDS CORPUTION.

      • cattnipp

        steer manure……. pure steer manure

        • SusieQ

          Have you been partaking of the catnip? You can’t chew it , have to have tea made from it. It can make you think strange thoughts, I hear, eyes water, can’t see straight and all, just thought I’d tell you about that.

        • Janet

          BULL CHIT TO YOU.
          I HAVE A BALLOT THAT WE WERE GIVEN BY THIS GROUP OF RIEDS GESTOPO ALSO THE LIST OF WERE WE COULD VOTE.
          COPIES WERE SENT TO THE REGESTRAS OFFICE AND THE DEM IN CHARGE DID NOTHING
          AS USUAL BY members of
          the obummers gestopo.

      • iolani64

        Who said? Flush Limbaugh or someone similar

      • Doug

        Look Mommy I can use all capital letters. That makes me important.

    • flybarb

      That is the problem SusieQ, I hope the ppl of Nevada vote this clown and others like him, including Pelosi. They affect the whole country not just nevada!!!

      • SusieQ

        If that doesn’t happen pretty soon we are going to lose the country we know. Over five years of this nonsense has dealt a huge blow to our democracy, I just hope we can at least get some sanity back soon, staring with the mid-terms. I truly feel if that is lost, there is a force beyond the control of our voting booth that’s out of control.

    • curmudgeon

      The casino unions and voter fraud elect this senile old bastard. Three sons and a son-in-law are all Washington lobbyists. Entire family constitutes a sub gang in the democRAT criminal enterprise. Why would anybody be surprised at the corruption in politics and especially in the democrat politics?

      • SusieQ

        Isn’t it amazing? How has he managed to stay under the radar so long. Is it no wonder he licks Obama’s behind and you know now the Governor of Nevada comes out and chastises the feds for their conduct, is he in cahoots with the old coot Reid too? Neither one of them had anything to say while this drama was in motion. We have a really sick political environment that has nothing to do with the people, it’s all about them. I hope I see a win in Nov. the day they wrench that gavel out of the nasty fist of Harry Reid. Hopefully he will resign.

        • curmudgeon

          A person would have to be blind or just plain terminally stupid like the democRAT voter bloc to not see that the democRAT party is a criminal enterprise.

          I agree with Ann Coulter that there are many bad Republican politicians, but there are NO GOOD democRAT politicians!

          • SusieQ

            Absolutely correct. More like a mafia as they can level real pain and legally unfortunately.

        • curmudgeon

          Resign? No, only terminal cancer or a fatal heart attack will remove this POS from his license to steal in the Senate!

    • J. C. Smith

      I’m not sure the people of Nevada keep electing him. One of his relatives owns the company the voting machines the state uses. No room for dishonesty there!

      • SusieQ

        You know I’m sorry I assumed that for a lot of people in that state, learning quite a bit about Nevada the last few days and quite a more about how the people of that state look at him. That Reid’s a real stinker and after the earful I’ve heard wouldn’t put anything past him or his machine.

    • Mary Beth Washburn

      well darling, I’m sure you have a few jerks that were elected from your state as well. How long have you been active in politics, 2009? Prior to that did you care?

    • Raymond Tower

      Been trying to get rid of Boxer and Feinstein for decades to avail. Corrupt career politicians. Especially Feinstein.

    • Obama_FTW

      Yea, except that this story is nonsense. The ENN solar farm was to be build in Laughlin, NV, which is nowhere near where this cattle grazing dispute took place. http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/cliven-bundys-cattle-and-the-federal-land-grab

    • JamesHeather Smith

      I heard people will be boycotting casinos. Wake up people. Do what you have to do.

    • Iatemine

      Reid is well connected with the SEIU Union, who require all their members to vote Ried in every term. Of course He is corrupt to the core.

    • Don McLaughlin

      Everybody in Nevada is either a stripper, dealer(of many things, not just cards), or mobster. Of course they will continue to re-elect Harry Reid. He is one of their own after all.

      • SusieQ

        I hope you mean Las Vegas.

    • Gerry Box

      And, can you believe he has a wife, children, and grandchildren. Are they all as crooked as he? Must be or they wouldn’t be able to stand him. I think he has dementia – inother words, he’s demented.

      • SusieQ

        Well, I hear he has sons that are lobbyists, I don’t know anything about them but I really believe even from lies Reid has told over the last year or so he is not a good apple add this situation and I don’t have a very good opinion of him.

    • LittleRoot_48

      I think he should star in a remake of “Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.”

      • SusieQ

        Yeah, He could wear his new outfit complete with those sunglasses trying to look like one of the Men in Black.

    • The RightStuff

      There’s good evidence he won through fraud. The last poll taken before the election had Sharon Angle up by 2-4% with a margin of error of 3.5%. Reid ‘won’ by 5 or 6 percent, outside the margin of error. No coincidence that one of Reid’s biggest donors, the SEIU, administers the voting apparatus here. For the life of me I don’t know why the GOP would allow such conflict of interest but they need to show some stones; and it shows the power the little worm from Searchlight has. Sandoval is our GOP Governor. Don’t know if he will run for Senate as it’s something of a step down but if he did he would win.

    • doszap

      The ONLY reason he has manged to hold this seat is UNIONS, Nevada is Las Vegas, and Vegas is UNIONS.
      He sucks up to them, and all vote for him(several times each),DemoNcrat style you know.

    • fantasywriter

      There are a lot of elite Republicans that helped Reid get re-elected. Sharron Angle was leading that race just 6 days before the vote.

      • SusieQ

        I put nothing past any politician and their motives anymore .

    • postman7z

      what about GW Bush? This is his fault.

      • SusieQ

        What? Weird comment.

    • postman7z

      voting machines must be rigged

    • postman7z

      when Nevada updated their old voting machine they gave all the old ones to Mexico and I’ll be damned if Harry Reid isn’t now a state governor down in Mexico !

    • Whatcha Gonna Do

      They tried, the last elections machines shutdown and rebooted then harry was magiaclly in the leed.

  • Thomas Pyke

    Wipe out the Reids with a stamped.

    • snoocks2

      That’s stampede – but we sure get the drift.

      • Doug

        He may have meant stamped.

  • Julie Forrest

    The next people to be taken down by the government will be you and me. If anyone has the ability and means to go join this rancher then GO. Tomorrow it will be our turn!

    • Tony Zambos

      should be going to protest harry reid’s offices…..get him to tell the real story…..officers are just doing what their told, by Harry Reid………get real folks…..

      • Tamra Farr Jackson

        it is real Tony, and Julie is right….next it will be you and me….when all the land to raise cattle is taken up by solar companies, where will you get meat for your table?

        • sputnik1

          Between what’s taking place at the Bundys and Californias drought they are trying to starve us out. Agenda 21 is their ultimate goal. Pack em and stack em housing, herd everyone to designated areas of the Country as the NWO vultures divvy up the open spaces. Get us out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of this Country.

          • SusieQ

            Maybe Soylent Green is on their agenda.

        • Joseph Amendolea

          oh you won’t need meat on your table….simple veggies will suffice….at least according to MOOOOOOOOOChelle’s nationwide non-optional diet plan….never mind the fact that red meat is one of the most plentiful dietary sources of vitamin B-12, a necessary component of red blood cell formation

          • SusieQ

            Michelle is raising a new garden tomato variety called Brazilian Big Butty Boy tomatoes don’t eat too many though or…………

          • ConscienceCit

            I heard YESTERDAY that this admin is pushing for a NO-MEAT diet!!!

        • onwego4k

          china like the tuna and all the other food coming from there and god knows what you are eating .

          • Doug

            Please resubmit in English.
            The Editors

      • Janet

        THE HEAD OF BLM IN NEVADA WORK FOR REID IN D.C. FOR 3 YEARS AND THEN HARRY GOT HIM IN AS HEAD OF NEVADA B.L.M.

        • Doug

          Mommy show Daddy what I can do!

      • Beverly Golato

        You know I have heard that statement before that officers are only doing their job. Is that the excuse all the Nazi’s used too? There comes a time when people have to stand as human beings, not cops or farmers, and protect and serve this country and it’s constitution. These cops are wrong for what they are doing and the Nevada sheriff’s department is wrong for not going in and protecting it’s citizens. The governor is wrong for not kicking them out. We are a republic not a democracy and have the right to protect our land from a corrupt government.

        • Doug

          How is Justice Alito these days?

  • gmhunt4

    Nevada is recieving what they voted for from their comunist Senator…….

    • wsurfs .

      Who can really say that the election of Reid wasn’t rigged..!

      • pen44

        OF COURSE, it was rigged, wsurfs…Reid owns over have the state.

        • Janet

          NO BUT HE DOES OWN MOST OF NYE COUNTY WHICH IS WERE THE BUNDY RANCH IS.

  • ron44

    Th Reid’s need to all be investigated vary throughly . Harry was under investigation over a year ago because of dealings with a development on Las Vegas that had ties to improper usage of his power as a legislator. He has been known to use his office for personal gain before so i’m not surprised at this. His family is all in the lobbing business. HC being one of those.

    • cattnipp

      does that explain how Mitch McConnell manages to increase his personal wealth by over 5 million dollars EVERY YEAR on a salary of under $250K ??? because some Democrats are rich???

      • SusieQ

        He frequents the Kentucky Derby every year and hear his betting skills are great.

  • retiredglobalguy

    It places a new face on this situation

  • http://vato21stcentury.blogspot.com/ Jim S.

    The, possible, growing domestic terrorists gathering, actually already bringing terror to the surrounding community:

    Who
    I’ll bet, including this freeloading cattle farmer, get government aid
    in a variety of ways, getting back what they contribute if they do, and
    certainly using everything the states and the rest of us as a society
    contribute to and use and like everyone couldn’t and wouldn’t exist
    without, they all did to travel to and staying. In his case I’ll bet
    there’s a government farm check sent to him and he cashes while also
    grazing his cattle, damaging where grazed and not contributing to
    maintain for him and the other farmers, for free and reaping the wealth
    received from the healthy, we hope, herd in a number of ways!!

    And
    ‘we’ are also paying the expenses that are being created daily by his
    and now the others actions, they will get no bill for costs of!!

    And
    in these dry times in area’s like that he’s getting his water supplies
    from sources the governments, everyone, tries to bring to their needs!!

    Wait
    to see what these, potential, domestic terrorists, get rid of the guns
    if ya don’t want the reality label, do as climate change, already is,
    creates even more problems for cattle ranchers like him as to feed stock
    and water supplies! Just think if all the ‘civilized’ gun owners had been bringing their loaded arms to ‘peaceful’ demonstrations, like outside the phony bush ranch, just sayin!!

    Though in his case he might just not be around to see, thus not caring, he ain’t no spring chicken!!

    USN All Shore ’67-’71 GMG3 Vietnam In Country ’70-’71

    • tedlv

      You should not post while drunk.

    • Larry Wallace

      That is so funny, R O F L.

    • Charles Griffo Jr

      Jim S. Your such a DUMB ASS A CRAP.

    • Beverly Golato

      100 years the cattle and this turtle have co-existed. The same family on the same land. The land belongs to Nevada not the government and what the government is doing is illegal. It has nothing to do with this turtle which by the way has been so prolific that they have had to gas some to keep the population down. It’s all about Reid and his ongoing corruption to line his own pocket. There is a wind farm in Nevada now that is owned by Pelosi’s brother-in-law and guess who is behind that debacle? Let’s try protecting the wild life this useless wind farm is killing instead of agreeing with an illegal action by our government to run people out of business. No the government has not subsided Mr. Bundy’s farm, they did build it.

      • Ken Jameson

        Washington DC is full of many evil, greedy, incompetent men (and women). They are not concerned with what is “right” … it’s all about “me”.
        And, they are sent to DC by people who are part of the problem … uninformed, co-conspirators, etc. This nation is in a mess!

      • surj

        Beverly ..
        You are spot on .,And this what Mahatma Ghandi Said ” There is enough for everybody’s need but there is NOT enough for anybody’s greed.

      • Doug

        Have you spoken to your good friend Judge Alito about this?

      • Janet

        RIED AND HIS SON IS BEHIND THIS NOT PIGLOSY. RORY REID MADE A DEAL WITH CHINA SOLAR FIRM TO BUILD THERE AND THE B.L.M. HEAD IN NEVADA WORKED FOR REID 3 YEARS IN D.C. AND IS DOING WHAT WHOREHOUSE REID TELL HIM TO DO. PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!

        • Beverly Golato

          Reid and his son are behind this problem, I was talking about the wind farm that already exists in Nevada that is Pelosi’s brother-in-laws. All the other stuff you mentioned we already knew.

    • disenwit

      Run and hide Jim.. Harry Reid is coming for you next!

    • phred01

      @Jim S.:disqus
      you are going to have to pull your head out of your obammy, so your muffled blather can be heard coherently

    • Rob

      People don’t waste your time with this az_clown, he gets paid to blog here by moveon.org

      • wsurfs .

        WOW….So, ol’ Jim is getting in on some of that Obama money, too..!

      • SusieQ

        He loves to mimic Nostradamus.

        • tedlv

          Which is challenging, because Nostradamus was a lot smarter.

          • SusieQ

            He practices a lot but I think this is a case of practice is not making perfect.

    • sreynolds

      You are a complete mindless troll, you might consider coming down off that terrible crack binge before posting, Son…

    • phred01

      Your a veteran’s advocate? What kind of advocate endorses the decimation of the military? In pay, in religious choices and benefits?

    • flatland

      You are possibly the most incoherent, irrational and incomprehensible poster I have ever seen on the web. No logic, just rambling rants and NO ONE has any idea what you are saying. My only hope is you are doing this for some kind of personal therapy because other than being sometimes irritating and distracting it serves no other purpose.

      • tedlv

        Well said, flatland. I think my post below was more succinct…

    • eaglestalon

      LOL, each time I come across one of your baseless hyper partisan nonsensical screeds my feelings of a completely clueless, uninformed Left wing electorate are reenforced.

      Slogans, slogans, talking points and more talking points with not a shred of evidence, not a single link to a credible (or uncredible) source to back it up.

      What’s going on liberal? Do you post this junk just so you can read it back to yourself while masturbating? Honestly, you really do appear to be more than a bit deficient from a mental acuity perspective.

      • blondie5422

        YOU are my NEW HERO eaglestalon !!! Love ya !!!

      • Doug

        Screed is a great word.

    • FuzzyBobby

      I’d rather give some money to a rancher than to illegals and the do nothings. And if it’s government land, It’s our land. We paid for it.

      • Matthew Rensen

        The gov should not be buying land except for a national park here and there. It owns way too much as is

    • MSG L

      so you have done NO research on this at all. You just make stuff up like the people YOU elected. Are you married to eliseR

    • Hell-Cat

      Dude.

    • Overcast451

      Hey Jim – maybe the Federal Government should have used this type of force and insistence in Benghazi – maybe our ambassadors would still be alive then huh?

      • Kibber_SF

        and that would have started a war…but you don’t care about American lives do you? You just make noise to sound like you know something…

    • MadMax7

      Your brain is turning orange……

    • wvweightgs

      And I bet when ever harry is in town you are the first to line up to such his ass, that is unless the obamasssss is there then he/it/? is first.

    • Sharpshooter

      Jim; I feel for you as I know many people do. You spent your formative years smoking dope, getting high and probably can’t remember the majority of your time over there, (for which the nation will be for ever grateful). Having said that, it is now time for a reality check, you and many like you can still obtain help through the VA and learn to do something besides sit at your computer dreaming of trying to be a REAL man. It has to be rather frustrating on you, sitting there trying to distinguish fact from fiction. Pay attention to the more mature around and listen to what they say, trust me, it will help you greatly. I just hope and pray that, until you get some help, that you don’t have access to weaponry. I and many others will be praying for you. You definitely need some anger management, but that will probably come as you start to understand reality. God Bless

      • tedlv

        Very nicely stated, Sharpshooter.

      • blondie5422

        Well said sharpshooter !! Jim S.is a SAD , SAD case for sure !!!

    • Tony Zambos

      Jim, your obviously on the Reid payroll somewhere…..maybe manager of the new solar panel farm?? or personal valet to Dirty Harry????

    • disqus_D87XRi0Gy7

      You’re a moron, I guess that PTSD kicked your ass and removed any sense you may have had at one time.

    • Tamra Farr Jackson

      you have no clue. just be quiet.

    • blondie5422

      Go back under the rock you crawled out from you dumb ,Commie scmuck “JIM S.” !!!!!!

    • Matthew Stout

      you Jim S. are a complete raving idiot. I hope your standing in front of all those so called growing number of domestic terrorists. you would be the first one I would punch in the face if I was there

    • butterflyinoh

      You’ve really overdosed on that LSD laden kool aid you’re drinking…your DELUSIONS are showing…Best to remain quiet and thought a fool as to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    • Janet

      BUNDY IS NOT A FREELOADER. HE WAS GIVEN GRAZING RIGHTS BUT HARRY REIDS PUPPET THE NEW HEAD OF B.L.M. STOPPED THAT AT REIDS REQUEST AND THAT IS WHAT STARTED THIS
      RIEDS SON RORY MADE A DEAL WITH CHINA SOLAR COMPANY TO BUILD ON THAT LAND. SO GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT BEFORE PUTTING UP STUPIDITY.

    • mjury

      Don’t fall for this cut-and-paste troll. If you do not respond, he will not get paid for trying to confuse the issue and rile up voters. The pols like us ranting here instead of ranting in a letter to their office. They ignore these websites but can’t ignore real letters from real people. A stand-off in NV of just a few 1,000 people has the BLM backing down. Just think what a constant stream of complaints from 10,000-20,000 of us in DC each month. Things would begin to change.

  • Nursieee2

    The parents of those little boys he molested should step forward and bring charges against this old coot. He needs put away in a mental prison for life.

  • tedlv

    If the poor endangered tortoise is so vulnerable, how is it they still exist on land that has supported free range cattle grazing for over 100 years? Why is it suddenly vulnerable to Bossy’s hoof, when history indicates that isn’t a problem?

    • phred01

      cuz hairy ass can make line his pockets.

    • SusieQ

      The only ones vulnerable are the people of that state, we’re next. It’s not the tortoise, it’s their pocketbook and power factor.

      • tedlv

        As always, I agree with your post.

        • SusieQ

          Thank you. I take that as a complement coming from you.

  • Boobie_The_Rocket_Dog

    So… pop Reid. Or make him an offer he can’t refuse.