Defiant Nevada rancher faces armed federal agents in escalating confiscation standoff

Update: See video of protesters’ heated battle with police, below:

A long-simmering dispute between a Nevada cattle rancher and the federal Bureau of Land Management has reached a boiling point, and participants have their fingers crossed it won’t erupt into violence.

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Photo: BundyRanch.blogspot.com

Since 1993, Cliven Bundy has been battling the agency, as well as the National Park Service, the Center for Biological Diversity and the courts, to graze his cattle on 150 square miles of Gold Butte scrub land in the Lake Mead National Recreation Area. He stopped paying his grazing fees back then, saying he “fired” the Bureau of Land Management as land manager. His Mormon ancestors had tilled the unforgiving soil since 1887, long before the 1934 Taylor Grazing Act allowed the federal government to seize control, TheBlaze reported.

“I have raised cattle on that land, which is public land for the people of Clark County, all my life. Why I raise cattle there and why I can raise cattle there is because I have preemptive rights,” he asserted, explaining to TheBlaze that this includes the right to forage, too.

Furthermore, Bundy has argued that it is the United States trespassing on Clark County, Nev., land, not he, and that he is a better steward of the land. He points out that the manure from his cows fertilizes the soil, that he’s built water sources for wildlife, and that his cattle prevent the vegetation from growing overly dense and creating a fire hazard.

But environmentalists, federal officials and the courts disagree. Armed federal officials and contract cowboys have been brought in to execute a 2013 court order and remove the trespassing cattle.

“It’s high time for the BLM to do its job and give the [endangered desert] tortoises and the Gold Butte area the protection they need and are legally entitled to,” senior Center for Biological Diversity scientist Rob Mrowka told the Mesquite Local News. “As the tortoises emerge from their winter sleep, they are finding their much-needed food consumed by cattle.”

Bundy’s herd also hinders the plants’ ability to recover from wildfires, tramples rare species, damages ancient American Indian cultural sites and endangers recreationists, Mrowka added.

The Bureau of Land Management website says Bundy has defied trespass laws for more than two decades, ignored rules and fees that other cattle ranchers have observed and refused “repeated attempts to resolve the matter administratively and judicially,” according to TheBlaze. While Bundy stated that he owed the BLM $300,000 in back grazing fees, spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon put the figure closer to $1.1 million.

Plus, the roundup of the approximately 900 unwelcome cattle could cost as much as $3 million. But the 68-year-old Bundy has remained unintimidated.

The Bureau of Land Management “has overstepped its boundaries by not letting me access my rights,” he said, and contended that it had inserted “200 armed officers watching our every move and stealing our cattle.” Bundy’s wife, Carol, said snipers are patrolling the family’s ranch.

Spokeswoman Cannon responded that “There are law enforcement and other personnel in place as needed to ensure that the BLM and National Park Service’s employees and contractors are able to conduct operations safely.”

Bundy has vowed to do whatever it takes to protect his property, and his 14 children and hundreds of supporters stand behind him. Dave Bundy, his son, was arrested on Sunday afternoon while attempting to film the contract cowboys at work, and cited for failing to disperse and resisting arrest.

Thus far, 234 cows have been impounded as the Bureau of Land Management has temporarily closed the public recreation area. Bundy’s plea to the Clark County Sheriff to intervene was stymied as the action fell under federal jurisdiction.

While the last rancher in southern Nevada argues “it’s a freedom issue,” federal officials are executing the “no trespassing” court mandate.

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval weighed in with a statement Tuesday scolding the Bureau of Land Management:

“Due to the roundup by the BLM, my office has received numerous complaints of BLM misconduct, road closures and other disturbances. I have recently met with state legislators, county officials and concerned citizens to listen to their concerns. I have expressed those concerns directly to the BLM,” Sandoval said.

“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution. To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately. No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”

Whether violence and bloodshed can be avoided remains to be seen.

Updated 4-10

Video of protesters run-in with police posted on You Tube ( strong language) 

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About Richard Berkow

Former political news reporter Richard Berkow lost his idealism in the Kennedy years, and his innocence in Vietnam, Lebanon, and the Soviet Union. He hasn’t mellowed since, and can be harassed at richard2429@hotmail.com

  • Milo

    I trust the people in Nevada will stand by the Bundy family. This could be anyone in America. The “feds” are constantly out of control. They, the “feds”, forget who owns this country. They are hired people and as such should turn in their uniforms and help the Bundy family ranch. To the Bundy family; it may be getting past time to hire your own snipers and recruit mercenaries and volunteers (patriots) who will fight for your Constitutional rights. The “feds” find little use for our Constitution. May God protect you.

    • Antonio Da Silva

      The BLM declared Bundy’s own land off limits, who gave them the authority to even do that?
      Then the BLM charged Bundy, then they found him guilty without a jury, then they imposed sentence.

      That is all illegal, why isn’t the Justice Department protecting Americans from this crime?

      Vote for third parties, who will not stand for federal agencies who are acting as judge, jury, and executioner.

      • violetvirginia

        Justice Department only protects Black people,Illegals and Liberals today. Unfortunately! It sure looks this way.

        • TeaPartyPatriotTD

          And if you read the book “299 Days” by Glenn Tate you will see what the Patriots have in store for the Limas

          • mxprivateer

            I could only make it through book 3 of that series before the action got so slow that I couldn’t justify spending $150+ on all 10 books.

        • Guest

          People seem to forget how violent the White man can get if provoked,it’s time the feds were reminded,we don’t rule the world because our ancestors were puss ies.

          • violetvirginia

            You are correct!

          • John D

            Obama needs to be reminded what happens to tyrants and dictators.

          • Norma Jennings Williams

            He y Obama h as it all going his way and
            he is going to make hay while the sun shines.

          • geezer_daddy

            That lazy ______(you fill in the blank) has never worked a day in his life!

          • HusseinInTheMembrane

            he hung some curtains once!!

          • HusseinInTheMembrane

            all these left wing thugs need to find out

          • josetoyou

            A “Ukraine event” in this country is a possibility…

          • Gereng

            But this is a war the Bundy’s can never win. If he uses a rifle they will use a machine gun. If he uses a tractor they will use a tank, etc. They will prevail no matter what this man and his supporters do.
            He would be wise to cut his losses before shooting begins and some one is killed. Then they will charge him with murder no matter who did the shooting.
            Like Dr. Frankenstein we have created a monster that we are now unable to control, and very likely the Congress can’t either.

          • Norma Jennings Williams

            Yeah !

          • Tomthetinker

            This is a war we must win. I really want to go support the bundy’s.

          • snowshooze

            There is no price to true principle.

          • Gereng

            That is true! I agree with it 100%. But I would point out that there is a vast chasm between the thought and the action. Unless one is willing to accept the consequences of a principled stand they better think twice before getting personally involved. If this govt decides to come after you, the principle becomes very costly. If you have a family and a job it’s very important to think about consequences before taking action. Our Govt has proved time and again they can be very unforgiving.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            You sound like the little wussies who were scared to take on the brits a couple hundred years ago.

          • Gereng

            Not really 8 yrs in the Marine Corps, five on active duty…(1953- 1958). Member of the VFW. I’m no “wuss”. but I do have common sense and know what the sound of incoming sounds like. Do you?

          • Bruce Dull

            Tellem GIrine…. Us squids always have your back.

          • Harry Wookiee

            Unless you’re ordered to do otherwise.

          • Gereng

            I spent 20 months on amphib command ships: USS Estes and US Eldorado… I know ships and lived like a swabbie.

          • gotham1883

            The old do not fight wars for a reason. Just the way it is.

          • Kelly

            Unfortunately, yes.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            There were Americans who fought for King George too. They were SCARED the Americans would lose. Wussies!

          • Independentrd

            A man may be willing to make sacrifices, but what about sacrificing the lives of your family. There comes a time when the deck is stacked and the price is not just you. Are you willing to sacrifice your wife and children as well?

          • gotham1883

            There are no innocents in war. There are those who fight the war and those who work to support those who fight the war. Any war has two sides. The families etc of both sides are fair game. Just the way it is.

          • Kelly

            My family knows about sacrifice. So you are suggesting to be little sheep and nod yes any time the feds do something against the constitution. Wow what happen to the 70s and hippies did they all get old and complacent. What happened to QUESTION AUTHORITY?

          • JallopyMacfurry

            The hippies are now The Man. lol

          • Independentrd

            I didn’t say, or indicate that. I simply asked if an individual would be willing to sacrifice their family. Some would and some wouldn’t.

          • Liberty101

            “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

          • NorthlanderLJ

            So you’re saying the feds will kill the rancher’s family too? I wouldn’t doubt it.

          • Independentrd

            Has it happened before?

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Have you ever heard of Waco? Gee. I guess it has.

          • Frank Szabo

            In the latter part of the 1700s, that exactly what was going through the minds of the Patriots. They decided the British had to be stopped and as much as they considered the consequences of doing so they went ahead. Thanks to the many who will remain nameless we were blessed with a country, the likes of which was never seen on the earth before because the Founders put all on the line for what they believed.

            Today, to do any less would be equal to slapping those gents in the face for their time, trouble, and sacrifice.

          • Gereng

            What ramped up enthusiasm among the proles for the war of independence was the very substantial support they were promised by France. Also, the fact that most of the British army was confronting France and the regiments available to fight the colonists were proving insufficient. I don’t know off hand the percentages that remained loyal to the crown, but they were quite a large number. Many did go to Canada, but I think most just quietly switched side when it was evident the colonists were winning.

          • Harry Wookiee

            They ran to Canada and guess who provides their security.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Yeah. We do. LOL.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            Timing is everything. Sacrificing your family, potentially, at this time, I don’t know. You shouldn’t question a person’s courage, though. It sounds like something the Left would do.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Agree. I support the guy’s courage for trying to save his ranch. I question the courage of people who are against him.

          • gotham1883

            Governments are the most vindictive enemies you can make. Governments have always been like that from the first creation of governments. Bad governments hold all of their citizens as hostages.

          • Independentrd

            Much like the Internet emboldens individuals because they can be anyone they want due to remaining anonymous

          • Gereng

            Today, Fri 04/11, it seems the Fed is bringing in more firepower. This is NOT going to end well for Mr. Bundy and supporters. The Feds will photograph every person confronting them and supporting Bundy. Then only the Monster knows what might happen.

          • Kelly

            Theoretical of course, but to take no action is a silence acceptance of what is happening today. If we protect what is ours for today out of fear then what legacy do we leave for those behind us. A totalitarian government? No, my friend, civil course it the price we must pay to insure the freedom and liberty we all enjoy. SHAME ON THE BLM COPS.

          • barry1817

            sometimes a man makes the stand because it is the right thing to do, and maybe there can be a symbolic victory if the media will not bury this story, but make it the headline each and every day.

            Reminds me of oil leases, and the problem with government interfering with those as well.

          • steve

            To bad the family aren’t black homosexuals and lesbo’s aetheists. The government would expand the grazing area

          • GiveTheWookieACookie

            And, just imagine what 0bama would do if they were illegals! He’d be confiscating cows from whites to transfer to them.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Yup. LOL.

          • Kelly

            Wookie, you are right.

          • Techster64

            His problem is that they are Mormons, well-known criminals.

          • Kelly

            The problem is that they are Mormons. Are last presidential race featured a Mormon. No doubt payback for who the rancher supported.

          • HusseinInTheMembrane

            and then take tax dollars for a few transsexual ops and rest rooms for the owners

          • Kelly

            No poopie. And they would make a movie about it and it would win an Academy Award.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Media WILL bury it. Count on it. I just heard about this last night on Drudge.

          • SRV2x

            Emiliano Zapata once said that it is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. There are a lot of us who believe that.

          • Gereng

            Zapata came to a sticky end as the Brits would express it. One can hold any opinion they wish. It is only when they gather together or exchange communications regarding the idea that they enter into a conspiracy. If you have been following the news you know that the Govt is reading and listening to everything said or communicated.
            This is the monster we now have no means of controlling. It rules!

          • NorthlanderLJ

            The feds can count me in on their conspiracy. I’m on the side of the old cattleman.

          • Gereng

            So apparently are some state gov politicians including the nauseating Harry Reid.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            I’ll be fighting to make him minority leader in November.

          • Independentrd

            And the head of the DOJ is guilty of contempt of congress, maybe soon to be followed by the head of the IRS,. If congress has the nads to prosecute Lerner, guess who has to OK it? The head of the DOJ. Think it’ll ever stick? They will prosecute one of their own? Even if it went that far, what’s the odds Obama would pardon her/them

          • Gereng

            We’ll see. I’d be shocked if anything comes of the current Congressional show of outrage. If they start eating their own, they face the possibility of losing all control over the Monster and becoming themselves the next meal.

          • Feet2Fire
          • NorthlanderLJ

            Too many Americans are happy to die on their knees today.

          • steve

            I agree he cannot win with force. He can win with public opinion. Recently, that is the only thing that make governments reconsider. Only the people who graduate last in there class work for the government or teach

          • Gereng

            You write ‘governments’ Do you include ours? I am old and maybe my memory is faulty, but I don’t recall a single instance in the recent past where outraged opinion has blocked anything our Govt wishes to do. Maybe ending the war in Vietnam could be an example. But that was after 9 yrs.

          • rockribbed

            You are right. If nothing changed after Ruby Ridge (sniper murder of family minding their own business) or after Waco (government burning women and children)
            … this cowboy is on his own.

          • Eric G

            The recent removal of one of Obama’s nominations (the person who defended the cop killer from Pennsylvania) was accomplished because of the public’s outrage. Although this was a small victory against the Obama juggernaut, it does provide hope and proof that sometimes, just sometimes, we the people can prevail. It’s much more practical and effective to do 100 things 1% better than 1 thing 100% better.

          • peck2

            I do not think that was a victory at all. That scum will simply be covertly put into another position.

          • Eric G

            You are probably right, but we just cannot shrug shoulders and say there’s no point. Any time Obama’s plan is stalled or redirected by opposition, it is a victory.

          • Carl Tim

            their…lol :)

          • NorthlanderLJ

            True. The rest of us went out and found real jobs.

          • claspur

            Noooo…. ‘rolling-over’ to this tyranny is the loser-here, Gereng?
            You have to stand-up, a fight
            these mother-effers.

          • Gereng

            If you are near enough to make the journey, then more power to you. It would be a good idea to first check and see if there is a rallying point or a group forming.

          • dougiefresh85

            Thousands are going. It is all over facebook. People see this as the Rallying cry of government abuse. We need to stand up for our country,constitution and families.

          • Gereng

            I certainly hope it succeeds. The cause is right. People are very angry.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            All are welcome at the cattleman’s house.

          • Milo

            Time to forget all that. We can no longer care about “charges” or bringing a knife to a fight when the other has a gun. We must always fight. Make peace with dying for a just cause and your life will have meaning. Rosa Parks could have been beaten or killed, she did not know. She “stood” her ground and many have seen what it means to take a stand. This civil war may be our undoing but it will eventually be a necessary event. IMHO.

          • william russell

            Where is harry reid. I disagree with you that we can not control them, we can by voting every democrat out of office and send a strong message that Americans are fed up and we have had enough.

          • cooganalaska

            They got you in their palms… you actually believe dems are worse than repubs when they are both, in fact, two heads of the same monster.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Yes. Democrats are worse. MUCH WORSE. Watch and learn. They are totally power crazy!

          • guest

            100% agree, the only big question remains is why do people not do that? Everytime you go to a Board of Equalization or any other government agency you are treated like s***, and they do not even want to abide by their own rules and regulations and foremost by our Constitution and they are supposedly public servants, who put them in there? when people vote for example California Prop 8 they overturned it and they liberals want to teach the world the democracy

          • ac287149

            That’s pretty much a working definition of “lawless”.

          • Gereng

            That might have been the case 20 or 30 yrs ago. But now they are two parties with pretty much the same powerful backers calling the shots. Some of the biggest donors wait until it is clear one party has the lead then they pile their money on the winning side.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Pick a side and fight for it!

          • NorthlanderLJ

            The BLM idiots used to work for dingy harry reid.

          • Milo

            The dems are worse but the GOP has gone the way of the NWO and created the TSA, HLS, and started the panic need for control after 9/11. #41 is a super guy but they are all part of the same monster as “Cooganalaska” states below. So many can’t be trusted. Reid is a Commie-Nazi freakshow….. It would help if we voted better people into office. Things have spiraled so far, so fast! ;(

          • 338LapuaAI

            Aimed shots win the battle – not the number of shots.

          • ac287149

            Why the fed snipers are there.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            they arent the only people with training..

          • ac287149

            No, but that’s why the federal government sent them there.

          • Gereng

            As an old Marine, I can attest to that.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            take the armories first..

          • Gereng

            Haha…No Comment!

          • MBruceQuarles

            Traitors on our payroll will be in a position to witness a wet day in hell if they persist!

          • Gereng

            Let’s hope you are right.

          • Martin Cataldi-Rogers

            Name and shame every officer that took part every contractor every company that helped out …

          • Gereng

            which assumes they have a capacity for shame…no longer a common emotion.

          • Martin Cataldi-Rogers

            maybe being public instead of hiding behind tasers , guns and dogs , trucks and drones , that maybe their human side may awaken

          • NorthlanderLJ

            I didn’t vote for any of them. I think It’s time for congress to take back the power they handed over to this alphabet soup of government agencies years ago.

          • Gereng

            I certainly agree.. Most politicians have so much dirt in their lives, I think they are afraid to come down too hard on the various agencies, fearful they will in turn be exposed.

          • peck2

            That is how “organized crime” has been so successful. Intimidation and threat of exposure. Chief justice of SCOTUS?

          • Gereng

            Holder just went nuts at a Congressional sub committee hearing. He really sounds like a rat backed into a corner. He appears to be refusing point blank to respond to Congressional demands for 1200 emails on some topic (I’m not following) Congress is investigating. It may be Fast and Furious..

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Yup.

          • freeulysses

            Is that true? They have 200 agents there. How many citizens in that area support Bundy, 2000? 20,000? People are afraid to up the stakes, but you have those people surround the agents, peacably with cameras in hand, and Obama and the other cowards in DC face the red line of mowing down thousands of Americans, and you will see how quickly they ‘find’ another way to deal with it. If everyone leaves it up to a lone rancher, then yes, no chance. But is that what our forefathers did?

          • Feet2Fire

            “Tortoises good… Cattle bad…” mutters the monster, as he blindly tromps through America and lays waste Her precious liberties and freedoms…

          • Bruce Dull

            Case history, Ruby Ridge and Waco. 53 dead and not one federal officer or diplomate ever tried let alone convicted. YET in both cases, policy and procedures were violated resulting in death. Guess it’s just another case of work place violence, Nothing to see here, move along. This is not the scandal you were looking for. (Sarcasm intended)

          • The_MaD_HaCkER

            Someone put 100 rounds into a transformer and just missed blacking out southern california. Practice your aim.

          • Rob Meier

            The best thing from an insurgent/counter insurgent point of view, is to do exactly what he is doing; make the gov’t look like the bully it is and take away it’s legitmacy. The MSM will portray the Bundy’s as bad people but no one will believe that.

          • DILKe

            However we have the numbers on our sides.

          • gotham1883

            Our people need martyrs. The government has no other purpose now but to enforce tyranny. Without the creation of martyrs there is no way to make the people angry enough to stop the tyranny. Remember Waco!

          • Kelly

            Fed excuse like with Randy Weaver. He was a scape goat for the white race until the truth was proven otherwise. Then the feds offered up a sacrificial scapegoat and paid the surviving family

          • Gereng

            I remember that shooting. It was plainly murder. Our Rulers and their agents want everyone to remember it as well.

          • DragonsTalon

            You’re wrong, this is a War the Bundy’s can win, it just takes people to wake the ____ up and start protecting our God Given Right (or if your an Atheist…Natural Rights) codified by the Founding Fathers in the U.S. Constitution!!
            Stop rolling over and complying with these Gestapo and SS Troops doing Unconstitutional Actions…such as stating if you’re an American Citizen at Inland Border Checkpoints 75 miles from the nearest U.S. Border. If they want to known if you’re an American Citizen at an actual Border between Canada and the U.S. or Mexico and the U.S. that is one thing, but 75 miles from an actual border is totally different!!
            Start using Federal Laws against these Cops, Border Patrol, other other Federal Agency personnel. Laws such as 42 USC Chapter 21 Subchapter 1 Section 1983, and 18 USC Part 1 Chapter 13 Sections 241 and 242

          • Gereng

            The situation is changing. The NV pols are getting involved . They see political fall out if they don’t.
            The laws you list work only as long as the fed judges choose to uphold them. Holder is claiming broad discretionary powers to enforce, or not, laws on the books.
            So far most legal challenges have been ignored or found in favor of the agencies.

          • Bill Huff Sr.

            Guest: it’s time for the American people to take back the country. If I were in the Bundy families position. i would meet the feds with 3-4 thousand armed mercenarys and they would be the ones buried in the desert, not Mr Bundys cattle. In order for the people to take back our country, people are going to die, there is no way around that fact. the feds have gone so far now that a revolution by the nation is the only way we may ever be able to take our nation back. Obama is a liar, a traitor, and an imposter. he should be removed by congress immediately. I wish you luck Bundy family on saving your land and cattle and excersizing your constitutional rights.

          • Gereng

            Bill, we share a last name……and somewhat the same views.

          • Norma Jennings Williams

            Bad things happen when good people stand by and do nothing.

          • Gereng

            What do you propose he does? He has already lost the legal battle in the sense the Feds refuse even to acknowledge his claims, much less allow him to sue. Keep in mind a citizen can sue the Govt ONLY with the Govt’s permission. Contesting the confiscation of his property by armed means merely gives the Feds the right to shoot him. If a few hundred neighbors show up armed or not, they can all be charged with insurrection.

          • Norma Jennings Williams

            Your comment proves my point. The people and officials of the state need to rally around the rancher , put a lot of
            pressure on the Gov. It might get the
            publicity to make a difference,

          • Gereng

            From what I am reading this evening the state gov officials are getting behind the rancher. That is a very encouraging development.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            So be it.

          • peck2

            Not if they shoot all of the costumed witnesses.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            What should we do? I’m near NV.
            But that’s a great reminder, thank you.

          • Feet2Fire

            An important point.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            the anglegrabbers are a disgrace.. TO ANY RACE

          • Independentrd

            The feds have also been known to get very violent, particularly when the have a huge advantage in numbers.

          • Diarrhetrius Brown

            White people better start voting white or they will lose everything.

          • Kelly

            Shades of the Boston Massacre

          • DragonsTalon

            Nevada is an “Open Carry” state without any permits needed…perhaps there needs to be a flood of Armed Law Abiding, Constitutional Following Patriots that need to do a “Show of Force”, and see how the BLM and the other Federal Agents like being the ones “Targeted” instead of them hurting these unarmed Patriots!!
            They supposedly have 200 Snipers, perhaps there needs to be 1,000 Patriot Snipers ready to go if the BLM Snipers take the first shot, with 200 Armed Patriots up near the BLM blockade point.
            This wouldn’t be necessary if the Clark County Sheriff had the cajones to throw these Federal Agents out of the County, since no Federal/State/Local Law Enforcement Agency can Countermand a County Sheriff in that County!!

          • DrBobNM

            somehow I can’t help thinking that the powers that be will color the provoked white man as racist.

          • Andrew

            Well, you see, Blacks…they’re predictable, which is why nobody is really worried about them. The white man tho…Well, they’re docile until they are put into a corner…then, they can unleash such a fury that would stun the most tyrannical of the most tyrannical!! But the Biggest ones to fear are the God fearing ones…cause they got the Power of God backing them!!..When they unite and call down the power of the heavens, THAT’S when you need to watch out!! ;)

        • Veronica

          There is a fund set up of $4.4 billion to give to minority farmers who don’t even have to prove discrimination. See NY Times article “US opens Spigot After Farmer’s Claim Discrimination,4/25/13 by Sharon LaFraniere

        • GiveTheWookieACookie

          It looks like we are led by a fascist who is of Obama, for Obama, and by Obama.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Yeah. The only constitution he knows is the communist manifesto.

          • MacAngheirr

            Phuck oscumbag the marxist half breed piece of shite.

          • NorthlanderLJ

            Agree. LOL.

        • Kelly

          You read my mind. Could you imagine if any of this happened in a Chicago ghetto or an illegal immigrant safe haven? Never would.

        • Andrew

          You forgot Gays!!

          • violetvirginia

            True!
            Guess we have to CONSIDER them as other than just Liberals. They are so needy and must have the recognition and attention constantly! All of these groups need to take a course in tolerance and just join the human race as nothing special.

        • US citizen

          On what planet do you live? Since when have Blacks ever been ‘protected’? Tolerated, patronized, deceived is more accurate. I do, however, sympathize with these American citizens and it is indeed scary what our government can do to its people. It never really seems that government works for the people regardless of what party or group is in charge. Government fights for and protects government(Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike).

          • violetvirginia

            Since Barack Obama has become president and has opened and played the race card repeatedly. Blacks and whites had been making progress since Civil Rights times and then he comes along and opens old wounds with his blame and race card use i, e, Jackson, Sharpton tactics.
            We are all equal now , however, the Blacks insist on separating themselves into “Black” banners. Black Republicans ,Black Democrats , Black college fund etc., etc.
            Until the blacks get over being black and using it as a crutch we will never come together. We are all part and parcel of the HUMAN RACE.

        • Overcast451

          They only protect the agenda of the rich and powerful.

      • 7thFleetVet

        “That is all illegal, why isn’t the Justice Department protecting Americans from this crime?”

        *Because Eric Holder is a liar, corrupt and racist.

        • chekme2

          Because there are no blacks involved. If there was one black there, holder, Sharpton, and Jackson would have been there with their megaphones.

          • bewaretheprophetwhoseeksprofit

            Can any of the liberals logically explain why the federal government killed hundreds of desert tortoises in their care recently? If it is about the tortoise doesn’t this reek of hypocrisy?

          • amuncat

            Same with the wild horses…

          • jane

            my favorite s why did they say they cattle are trampling the tortoise’s food yet the talk about other ranchers that pay their dues, so there is other cattle there- they are just paying so its really all about money.

          • Feet2Fire

            Good point.

          • Marcial Reiley

            No other cattle than Bundy’s, except for the ones that haven’t been branded because they were born feral.

          • ExPat_in_Krakow

            Yeah, I figured. You’re actually a professional videographer; you were there for 9 days; you care about the subject – yet you can’t provide a link to any of your photos nor videos that actually illustrate the great tragedy that you were describing.

            So you were just repeating what someone else had told you. That’s cool, it may or may not be true in that case, but you are hardly a trustworthy messenger. Since the Feds packed up and went home (only hours after the story of Harry Reid and the Chinese solar panels hit the mainstream), I’ll assume it’s not that big a deal.

            In any case, the BLM has slaughtered far more tortoise than that rancher’s cows ever have. You should picket them.

          • Carl Tim

            You mean just like how they want to save toddlers, yet kill babies? i know….sweet! Right?

          • DrNarcisse

            So are there any white guys out there with megaphones or just a bunch of whiny and ineffective losers on the internet, in the comments section that only 0.002% of people even bother to read?

            Pardon my confusion, I’m just wondering why you would expect a couple of charlatans like Sharpton and Jackson to fight your battles for you. Even blacks know those guys are only out for their own good.

          • MacAngheirr

            ni66ers are for ni66ers Whites Unite…
            14/88

        • Guest

          It blows my mind how a bunch of blacks,a 12% minority in our country,is in control,this is still a White republic,It’s about time white liberals were dealt with.

          • Gdrake

            This is simple to figure out Blacks are not the only ones who put him back in the WH

          • amuncat

            Yeah! If every black man, woman and child voted, who were the other 88% who voted for him?!!! Thus the reason we are where we are today, but I just thought he was a shill…probably is.

          • Jonathan Miller

            Blacks voted as a single entity, when it came to electing Obama. It must have been out of “rspect” for his legal and writing career at the Harvard Law Review. Haha…

          • amuncat

            I know for a fact that ALL blacks DID NOT vote for Obama, especially in his second election! I guess it is more convenient for you to not think, and to deal with particular groups as single minded, and they aren’t!

          • keroth43

            He is a self admitted pathological liar. A smooth talking, neurolinguistic programmer, as are his minions, who could convince the average American that they are a carrot.

            If you believe anything this person says, your problem–you are an idiot

          • Andrew Clayterman

            chicken-sh1t white cowards who thought they were guilty of something, and fey ankle-grabbing pickle-0smoochers put the illegal in the office.. with help from 12 year brainwashed idiot youngsters.

          • Gdrake

            White people put Barack Obama in power not black people. They do not have the resources or numbers to do that. Yes the majority voted for him but even if it were 100% they could not put him in there alone. Whites, Hispanics, homosexuals Asians all had a hand in this.but this beast is a puppet and his handlers I assure you are white.

          • MacAngheirr

            Vote right Vote White…
            14/88
            Hail Victory!

          • amuncat

            Idiot! White people are the majority in ALL elections in America!!! Amazing how you still find reason to blame minority voters for the current situation, when they are a mere drop in the voter bucket! Own it, your bros gotcha’ here, NOT minority voters…IDIOT!!!

          • Kevin Bearly

            Your racism empowers the cabal of New World Order globalist tyrants who are largely secular white gentiles and Jews. You are blinded by your irrational hate and therefore cannot see the enemy and in fact help them. Grow up!

          • Gereng

            There is no racism in anyone preferring their own people to others not like themselves This is the socio/economic/cultural ‘glue’ that has held similar people together since we have stood upright. Well, now that I think about it, it is a biological imperative that all social animals must have in order to succeed and survive.
            The current effort to meld and mix unalike people in this nation is the reason why there is so much tension, conflict, crazy and violent behavior as it fills up with such wildly diverse and dissimilar folk.
            People have become so incredibly stupid over the past 60 yrs or so that seemingly they have forgotten this most fundamental fact of human society.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            ‘There’s only two races of human beings, the decent and the indecent’.

            That’s a quote from a Jew, I’m pretty sure. And I agree. I also believe leftism itself, as an ideology, is indecent….and so why so often it’s adherents are power mongering fools.

          • Kevin Bearly

            Racism is preferring or disregarding people based on race. If your point was about mixing people from very different cultures regardless of race making it difficult for a society when there is no attempt at assimilation it would in my opinion be a more valid point. Culture is not determined by race. As a Christian I realize we all came from the same two original people. Race has no more importance than the color of ones eyes. I have green eyes and fair skin. Am I then different than a blue eyed fair skinned person? Do you consider everyone who has your superficial racial characteristics to be superior to all others? The New World Order folks are humanistic evolutionists who believe they are superior to all others and because of that rule think it is logical to rule the rest of us. Karl Marx
            communicated with Darwin about how communism was logical for evolutionists.

          • Gereng

            Kevin, race is as real for human beings as it is for dogs or pigs. It is real as factual as the differences in IQ, achievement, temperament, and the societies the different races construct. Biology and genetics have proven this. The faddish idea that race is an artificial contruct is nonsense.
            I spent my working life in Third World nations managing various kinds of aid projects. From Indonesia to Colombia and 10 countries in between including Liberia, Uganda and Somalia.
            I can assure you the differences are real and substantial. If you don’t believe me, live in Liberia for awhile, then Belgium.

          • MacAngheirr

            http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2010/01/racist-word-invented-by-ussrs-leon.html

            “Racist” — A Word Invented by USSR’s Leon Trotsky

          • MacAngheirr

            To shut down the opposition.

          • Feet2Fire

            Absolutely correct. Ever hear of the saying “birds of a feather flock together”? It means that species prefer their own kind. Ever hear of the BALKANS?–where people of disparate religions, languages, cultures, mores, etc. are FOREVER AT WAR? America is well on her way to Balkanizing our beloved land, and no good will come from it.

          • MacAngheirr

            “Racist” — A Word Invented by USSR’s Leon Trotsky

            http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2010/01/racist-word-invented-by-ussrs-leon.html

          • MacAngheirr

            I love my people White people and I am proud of my European heritage and my ancestors, if that makes me a racist …SO BE IT.
            14/88

          • Andrew Clayterman

            Go F–K yourself, ghey coward!

          • Kevin Bearly

            Very mature statement.

          • keroth43

            One- Though blacks might be 12% of the country, they don’t ALL subscribe to this BS.
            Second- You are not white, unless you have bled out and they have skinned you. You are a multicolored (at your choice you stay in the Sun) Caucasian!!!

        • Gereng

          The majority of those claims are bogus and the Govt knows it, but they are still paying out every black who comes forward and simply states his claim. It is a huge boondoggle and everyone dealing with it directly or has researched the situation understands this. The Magic Negro wins one.

          • Feet2Fire

            Maybe the rancher could find some black blood in his genealogy… Maybe consult with Fauxahontas for advice…?

          • Gereng

            That long family history of Mormonism pretty much precludes that. But it is a good idea.

        • MacAngheirr

          Time for the US Marshall’s to arrest his sorry black ass and haul him off to jail.

          • MacAngheirr

            And take the half breed Commie ni66er obama with them.

      • chekme2

        No third party, vote conservative.

        • http://PricesKarate.com/ DavePrice

          because Bush was so much better? or are you brainwashed enough to believe YOU are going to change the GOP… duh

          • Sammie Jo

            Bush may have made mistakes, but he wasn’t deliberately trying to turn this country into a banana republic, and no one got their land seized by the feds.

          • crismahn

            It isn’t their land and the Bundys are ranchers only under the most loosely interpreted meaning of the word. They do nothing in the way of managing, culling or tending to this “herd”. These are just a bunch wild, uncared for, feral cows. They need to be rounded up and either put out of their misery or else cared for the way cows on a real ranch are cared for. The Bundys are not ranchers, they are despoilers of the animals unfortunate enough to be under their care, and despoilers of the desert- not range- but desert that they live on. It’s time to put a stop to the Bundys. Totally agree that the 1st Amendment-Free Zone is way over the top.

          • LouAnnWatson

            and you know this how?

          • Mark Talmont

            Are you clear on the difference between a cow and a steer? Typically “cattle” refers to the latter. Cows give milk and bulls are a bit of a challenge to manage, so they don’t keep many of them around.

          • Bflag

            And you know this Chrismahn because you were a ranch hand there? Maybe his neighbor? Certainly you must be
            an experienced rancher.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            I’m sure he’s “milked” many black “bulls” down at the local gloryhole.

          • HalfMoments

            Ummmm…sounds like another liberal stooge was let out.

          • Sammie Jo

            How do you know?
            Can you provide proof or are you just bloviating?

          • Marcial Reiley

            I’ve been there. What he says is what I’ve seen. I doubt if most of the replies on this have been there.

          • steve

            I would still take the cattle over turtles. Let the turtles relocate if they want to survive. If they can’t relocate themselves they die. Like Darwin said – survival of the fittest. Let the species die off already

          • ExPat_in_Krakow

            Marcial, I’ve asked to see the photos from your visit. I’m quite interested in this topic. The last time I went someplace away from home for 9 days, I took well over 1000 photos. Probably closer to 2000. Every phone made in the last 5 years has reasonable photo capabilities.

            Link, please?

          • JallopyMacfurry

            So you’re saying that the armed soldier’s of The Man have a right to point a gun and literally threaten the lives of this family? What kind of hippy leftist are you? Are you mentally ill?

          • steve

            The US government is the worst steward of land there is. They are the worst polluters in the world yet they want to control how other use their land or public land. If it is public land, let the public use it. The government should not own any land

          • JallopyMacfurry

            Wrong. It started over the desert turtle, or i.e., the environmentalist Left. You do know that lying is immoral, don’t you?

          • Gereng

            The Spotted Owl did in the logging industry in southern Oregon. That bird’s preservation literally ruined the lives of tens of thousands of families who logged and worked in the lumber mills. I lived in that area through high school and hunted and hiked those same forests AND never ever saw a single owl. Now the larger owls from the north are moving in on this pathetic excuse for an owl and are displacing him anyway. So? WTF was saving this wretched bird all about? Was the effort worth all the hardship and misery it caused the people in Klamath county?

          • JallopyMacfurry

            I’ve heard that near 100 million people, mostly children, have died horrific deaths because of the Left’s success in discontinuing the US’ production of DDT in the last 30+ years. Even today, kids were being saved from blindness and other terrible suffering, via adding vitamin A to food, but the environmental Left (the Left in general) has stopped this. The Left IS evil personified in human form. CS Lewis said something like how the devil would appear like an angel if we could see him/it. Clarity Uber Alles. To hell with the Left.

          • crismahn

            It isn’t their land and the Bundys are ranchers only under the most loosely interpreted meaning of the word. They do nothing in the way of managing, culling or tending to this “herd”. These are just a bunch wild, uncared for, feral cows. They need to be rounded up and either put out of their misery or else cared for the way cows on a real ranch are cared for. The Bundys are not ranchers, they are despoilers of the animals unfortunate enough to be under their care, and despoilers of the desert- not range- but desert that they live on. It’s time to put a stop to the Bundys. Totally agree that the 1st Amendment-Free Zone is way over the top.

          • Kevin Bearly

            No president in our history did as much as George Bush 1 to bring about the New World Order. Why not just do a Google on Bush and New World Order and read his speeches for yourself.

          • HalfMoments

            A little uninformed and blind. Obama by far #1 in that category and then Slick Willy.

          • Sammie Jo

            I don’t need to , I’ve heard them.
            No president in our history has done as much as Obama to turn us into a banana republic.

          • tenro1

            You would be totally at home in a banana republic Sammie Jo – you are a brain washed idiot. TOTALLY

          • steve

            Better than living under the idiot in chief in America, libtard

          • Sammie Jo

            Awww, look at that, the big man behind his iddy biddy computer screen has nothing except to call people who don’t agree with him, names. Wow! I am just so hurt. NOT!
            You’re the brain-washed idiot. Go eff yourself, nobody else will.

          • tenro1

            That’s a totally brain washed response if ever I heard one….You seem to forget who turned on the spiggot for the predatory lending that destroyed the mortgage industry and the housing market….yeah – go research that one and then tell me how far down the path GWB took us towards a banana republic. Between that, and the $300 tax checks he bribed everyone with, and medicare part D prescriptions, with no way to pay for either, I would say he not only took us down that road, he left the others a map to get us the rest of the way…

          • Sam

            That happened under Clinton and the Democrats would not listen to Bush when he warned as to what would happen if they did not reverse course!!! Think Dodd and Frank and thank them for that mess along with Billy Clinton.

          • steve

            Oh – you mean the dimocrats who put up road blocks when the bush administration wanted to reign in Freddie and Fannie lending standards and Jimmuh Carter signed the community reinvestment act The videos below are still on the web accusing Republican of..can you guess…racism because they wanted to reign in lending standards

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqYY72PeRM

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1

          • Jonathan Miller

            Yes, it is better to blame Bush and arouse the ire of the stupid people rather than blame the real culprits, the Democrats. Just like Barney Fwank said, nothing to see here in my homosexual brothel or in Fannie Mae…

          • hunterbr

            So Bush wasn’t the best President. But honestly, can you say Obama is better? He has done much worse things to this great Country than Bush ever did, and if you can’t agree with that than you’re already lost.

          • Sammie Jo

            Why no I haven’t forgotten who is responsible for the housing industry debacle, does the name Barney Frank ring a bell?
            $300 tax checks? Funny, I didn’t get one, wasn’t it Obama who promised us checks? Didn’t get one from him either, not that I expected to, did you?
            Sorry, but you don’t know what you’re talking about, go back to msnbc and get more false info.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            Bush is not, never was, a conservative (much less a Libertarian) Get with the program, man.

          • John D

            So you prefer Obama? Idiot.

          • iohannes

            I prefer neither. Keep chuggin’ the kool-aid.

          • pjdjmj

            Bush 1&2 were/are establishment puppets. Establishment Republicans and Democrats are a menace to this nation. Outlaws with guns pointed at citizens while the former rustled the latter’s cattle was a hanging offense in the days when we had law and order.

          • iohannes

            Very true!

          • The Oracle

            Bush is no longer president.
            Obama is the president; the nemesis.

          • HalfMoments

            Yes, Bush was so much better than this POS and he was very good, so consider that.

          • tenro1

            Yeah – he was so good at it, that his own party disowned him in the 2012 election. And, he won’t travel abroad because of all the warrants for his arrest waiting for him to dump him in the Hague and stand trial for war crimes….Him,. Cheney, and Rumsfeld all waiting to do the perp walk…

          • HalfMoments

            Not one relevant piece of information. Should he have bowed you think? Or just said all from a video?

          • tenro1

            I wouldn’t expect you to find or hear any relevance in what I said – you are brain washed…

          • HalfMoments

            Brainwashed in what way?

            Our deficits and debt? Failed foreign policy? Fascist administration?

            Don’t eat the crayons.

          • steve

            You and the obummer left are the brain washed

          • steve

            The dims are running as fast as they can from the current idiot in chief. And now we see how much foreign leaders respected Bush and that they realize Obummer is just a little boy with a little boys intelligence

          • Andrew Clayterman

            Ya know.. I bet alot of those international idiots that were so gung-ho over the US electing a punk-a@@ed phony are regretting it now.. ruined economies, over ran with Muzzies, Russia breathing down their necks.. lol.. as Oxerxes goes golfing.

          • hunterbr

            What war crimes? Obama and his political chronies are responsible for more War Crimes, and against our own Men and Women in uniform.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            Plenty dead from illegal drone strikes.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            ” his own party disowned him in the 2012 election’ I didn’t know he was running.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            Lol, I’ve never, ever, heard any conservative say that they believe Bush (either one) was a conservative. What are you talking about?

        • Perfparjer

          For there truly is only one party, at the top: the DEMGOP’s. The rest of us play favorites pretending the GOP and DEM’s have different strategies and goals regarding national order and national policy. Reality over more recent years, with aid of the Internet, shows there is no difference in DEMGOP goals and strategies, other than feathering their nests into perpetuity. Tea Party goals create an unwelcome focus on DEMGOP behavior. Budgets, deficits, immigration, national debt. Who gives a rip! Just get me re-elected. The Founding Fathers would never have imagined an entire Congress of aging geriatrics with “real” wigs and make-up. Term limits are absolutely necessary. There is no particular party better than another. It is the need to keep corporations out of politicians pockets. Also creating an honest voting mechanism. No more mail in ballots and only vote in person with valid voter ID. Politicians knowing the may not stay in D.C. for the rest of their lifetime will encourage candidates with a different mind-set; more altruistic, and less concerned with becoming a millionaire. Beware the Rino’s that say a potential candidate is un-electable, their ever-recurring mantra. How did that work out for McCain and Romney/Ryan? Dump the DEMGOP’s!

          • VoteOutIncumbents

            We need a constitutional convention to adopt term limits..NOW.

          • Kevin Bearly

            A convention would give the elected officials the ability to do away with the Constitution completely. We have term limits now. An informed populace can vote out the House every two years and the Senate every four years. If people are not informed they will just vote for more globalist big government liberty destroying officials who promise to take form others and give to them.

          • tenro1

            An informed populace would know that we vote on Senators every 6 years – not 4. Go get a bit more informed Kevin. And – the only term limit enforced at the federal level is on the President, who can serve 2 consecutive terms…Everyone else can serve until they leave, die, or get voted out.

          • tenro1

            We need a constitutional convention to reassert the bill of rights, and reestablish the Republic this country was based on….and outlaw the use of the word DEMOCRACY when used to describe this country’s form of government.

          • steve

            That would leave the libtards leftist with no power whatsoever. I’m all for it

        • Antonio Da Silva

          Conservatives could end this right now, and they aren’t so they cannot and will not do the job. Vote third parties.

      • Kaye Griffin High

        Voting third party will absolutely put Democrats in charge. Democrats ARE the government! It’s more obvious than ever these days that leftist radicals have been embedded throughout all the bureaucracies. Especially obvious with
        DOI, BLM, EPA, Department of Education, IRS, etc.

        • http://PricesKarate.com/ DavePrice

          i voted Obama the first time… 3rd party or Libertarian the 2nd time.. gee, that sounds just like the exact opposite of what you said? voting for dem / rep will just keep putting the same criminals back in office. wake up already and quit chugging the lies.

          • Kaye Griffin High

            Vote for Conservatives.Third party candidates are a wasted vote and ensures a Democrat gets elected. Not all Republicans are bad but ALL Democrats are – they ALL voted for Obamacare and not a single one read the bill. I didn’t vote for Obama the first time – I did my homework.

          • iohannes

            Remember when every single Republican voted for the PATRIOT Act? I do. Republicans are as equally worthless as the Democrats. Different sides of the SAME COIN. Both, of which, are more than willing to trample your Constitutional Rights. The Founders warned against political parties. Perhaps it time we heed their advice, hmm? :)

          • John D

            Illogical Fallacy. Also known as BS.

          • iohannes

            Sounds like somebody is a firm believer in the false left/right paradigm. Carry on, John. Carry on.

          • iohannes

            Sounds like somebody is a firm believer in the false left/right paradigm. Carry on, John. Carry on.

          • Kevin Bearly

            In other words you are too ignorant to have a real answer to facts!

          • Kaye Griffin High

            Voting third party only gets the Democrats elected. I FIRMLY believe they are far, far worse than the Republicans. Conservatives need to take over the Republican Party the way Progressives have taken over the Democratic Party. I was an Independent and didn’t become a Republican until 2008 because I felt it would be easier to change 1 of 2 parties than it would be to get enough people to elect a third party candidate.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            a RINO CAN BE pressured into doing the right thing.. a libtard would die
            first.. vote for a rino only if the alternative is a libtard..

          • izzycafe

            Sadly even the best intended laws like the Patriot act that happened after 911 to help fight against terrorism can be manipulated by the likes of the Obama administration. This administration is very capable of turning something intended for good and using it to forward their socialist agenda. Don’t blame Republicans for how the democrats decided to abuse this law.

          • HalfMoments

            Remember when the patriot act was a defined item not abused improperly by Democrats. I do.

          • Jonathan Miller

            It is easy to read the bill. Did you read it? When did it become a suspension of Habeas Corpus, for illegal detention and robbing a person of the 1-4 Amendments. Under Obamas Imperial Rule is the correct Answer. Obama did not revoke the Patriot Act and he controlled it all at one point, he put it on steroids, you know-nothing.

          • HalfMoments

            You think voting 3rd party pulls votes away from Democrats? No. And not surprised at anyone who was ignorant enough to vote for Obama once. At least you didn’t go full crayon eater with a 2nd time.

          • Andrew Clayterman

            or is too ashamed to admit it.

          • JallopyMacfurry

            There are a few Libertarians in the R party, we just need more, don’t we?

      • NorCalFoothillRich

        Gives new meaning to the words: “we’re from the government and we’re here to ‘help’ “, doesn’t it?

      • Ben

        nobody gave them the authority, no one has that that authority, the constitution is still the supreme law its just that nobody stands up for it and says “hey, you can’t do that govt official”

      • TeaPartyPatriotTD

        That’s why the time for a revolution to throw these thugs off is long overdue. When the feds declare war on their own citizens, that is when people start exercising their Second Amendment right against this domestic enemy…

      • Alvarez

        I totally agree with you, but you can’t vote for a 3rd party (as much as I would love to). Reason being, if you do, a Democrat WILL win. With the two parties in power now (Democrats and Republicans), it’s a pick your poison kind of thing. Which one is the lesser of two evils? With Democrats in power, this will continue to happen. With Republicans in power, something like this will not continue or happen. They both have flaws, but at least with Republicans in power, you can rest assured our rights will be protected, for the most part. A vote for a 3rd party is a vote FOR Democrats.

        • Kevin Bearly

          Google the Patriot Act and actually read it. Every Republican who voted for it committed treason and destroyed the Bill of Rights.

      • John D

        Because the DOJ is full of Obama scum, like the criminal Holder. We no longer have a Justice Department. We have a bunch of NAZI criminals.

      • LouAnnWatson

        why are you asking rhetorical questions?

      • Brenda Harshe

        Erich Holder Justice Dept? That one?

      • Norma Jennings Williams

        The Justice Dept. Is not on the side of the
        citizens..

      • barry1817

        Holder is too busy hiding from congress and not concerned with any legal matters save keeping his buttocks out of the fire, and trying to make sure the heat doesn’t get to B.O.

      • ConfusedAmericanCitizen

        Because the “justice” department is cahoots with the UN’s Agenda 21 and is working hard at rounding us all up into “sustainable” living communities whereby we will utilize bicycles and our feet instead of those terrible gas guzzling cars that are required of us when we own property of our own and need to get to and from it and The easier to control you my dears….Ask Palomino Valley, NV how they did on getting their Costly just to apply for a “special use” permit when it comes to their very own 40 acre lots. The county commissioners don’t want them keeping those 40 acres and will deny them that opportunity at every turn without even giving them the reason. Look up Agenda 21 and find out if your county is a card carrying member of ICLEI, the community development part of Agenda 21. Washoe Co. NV is and I best Clark Co. is as well.

      • dbt3481

        How can they stop him from using his own land? This is out of control.

      • Animal A

        They were never his lands. “The trouble started when Bundy stopped paying grazing fees in 1993. He said he didn’t have to because his Mormon ancestors worked the land since the 1880s, giving him rights to the land.”
        So my family came over in the early 1700′s, y’all the the hell out of New York, Virginia, the Carolinas and Georgia. Their mine and Puritan ancestors give the rights to go anywhere I choose, never mind my ancestors never actually bought the land.
        Are you also in favor of giving Nevada, Texas, Oklahoma and Wyoming back to the American Indians? thought not.

      • Seldom Seen Kid

        As stated in every article, that land is PUBLIC land. WE are the public. Ergo, WE OWN the land! So, as one of the millions of other OWNERS, I give Mr. Bundy permission to graze his cattle.

      • Andrew Clayterman

        sounds like the mob looking for shakedown money

      • Anon

        Because that’s not what the federal government does or ever did….not ever in its entire history. Our government was never designed to function as nation let alone a giant attempted world wide empire. We are supposed to be a republic with all such functions as law enforcement and governance handled locally (and held accountable locally). When we allowed two world wide wars of aggression (world war one and two) and allowed the majority of our wealth to be taxed and used as our federal government saw fit, instead of accepting the responsibility ourselves to run things, we gave them the power to do such things. No, they have no right to do these things but since when has any criminal enterprise needed the right to steal from its victims? You want change? Then you, PERSONALLY, will have to accept the responsibility to change things in such a way that almost all money is kept out of federal hands. That means not paying taxes. It probably means accepting payment for work in something other than US funds. It means resistance. No one will (or can) do it for you.

      • NorthlanderLJ

        Republicans are partway there. Help us run out the rest of the RINO’s (Republicans In Name Only).

      • josetoyou

        The department of “justice” has only biased justice! Our government is perverted from the White House on down and is a cancer to our Constitution.
        A surgical option appears more necessary with each passing event….

      • ak37

        Antonio, I am an independent, but to tell you the truth, it really is the democrats that are mostly to blame for this tyranny, this country has NEVER given the republicans a chance, they have NEVER given them a super majority in the house and senate with (or without) a sitting republican president, they need to at least be given one chance, but the idiots in this country (collectively)
        Won’t give them a chance …..

      • That Texas Guy!

        The reason why the DOJ is not involved?They are the wrong skin color and they probably voted for the other guy in 2012.

      • Grandma Go

        This is so maddening! May as well live in the Soviet Union!

    • http://www.usdebtclock.org/ Chris Lehares

      I dont trust ANYONE in Nevada.. Harry Reid. Enough said.

      • duelles

        Reid is in office, IMO because he opposed the Yucca flats nuclear waste dump. Tough NIMBY stuff. I despise him for everything else in his political life.

    • demodoormatt

      Those people of Nevada are the ones that keep Harry Reid in office year after year.

      • Bearman

        The last time he ran it was the SEIU that “kept him in office”. The electronic voting machines in Vegas “crashed” (Harry was trailing by 5%) so they sent in the SEIU to “fix” the problem. Not electricians, service workers. SEIU members mostly serve beverages & changes sheets in Vegas, but that’s who they sent in.

        • Antonio Da Silva

          I agree Bearman, let’s face it. The mathematical possibly of Obama winning the past election while having the lowest approval rating in the history of presidents, and at the same time receiving a record hi vote?

          Do you honestly believe Obama got a record hi vote? Do you really in your heart believe that Gary Johnson only got 1 million votes?

          • HalfMoments

            Soros owned Spanish company counted the votes.

          • Bearman

            It looks like there were about 35,000 illegal votes for president (2012) in N. Carolina alone. zer0 won by about 3 M votes though. I don’t think were enough swing states to make that difference. Still, a whole lot of people should be prosecuted. And the facts should be broadcast, then repeated ad nauseam on all news programs. We’ll hear crickets though.

      • NorCalFoothillRich

        Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno) and the SEIU casino unions are the main reason……………………………..

    • HereWeGo321

      Hard to trust anyone in Nevada when they keep re-electing Harry Reid.

    • john miles

      Well the sad truth is that back in the 1950′s the Feds scooped up—there is cause to doubt whether they ever paid anything—much if not most of the land in the west. For some reason most Americans have never questioned this.To me that is the most important issue, Not what do the feds own or control regarding lands in the west, but why do they own or control it?

    • embarassed1

      This land is the most god-forsaken desolate land in any of the 50 states.
      When a cow “poops” on it, its’ a MAJOR improvement. The Bundy family ran cattle on this land since 1887, even before the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934. Shouldn’t their rights be “grandfathered” ?
      Do the feds ENJOY looking stupid??

      • LouAnnWatson

        if they cared about looking stupid, obama wouldn’t be president.

    • LouAnnWatson

      i’m wondering how. after decades, those tortoises still exist. if they were truly endangered, wouldn’t they have disappeared by now? this is repression instigated by leftists and the endangered species act, tacitly approved by the department of injustice and the arrogant fahuckhead attorney general.

    • Norma Jennings Williams

      The Feds have so much force , and they will use it
      Lawful or not.

    • jimhalfwit

      The Bundy family find themselves trying to survive in the land of Harry Reid.

    • Sean

      You do? really? These are the same folks that keep electing Harry Reid

    • John Sheridan

      “They, the “feds”, forget who owns this country.” No, no they haven’t forgotten. The owners of the country have forgotten they own it. They sit by shaking their heads, then shrug their shoulders and go back to reading about “Kim” or “Miley”. The dumbing down of America is complete, and your are witnessing the consequences of that.

    • Engage Gray Matter

      They will. Especially if the feds start shooting. Then the people of Nevada will be way far behind him…hiding behind the rocks. I don’t hold out much hope. The feds will eventually get what they want even if it costs the rest of us millions of dollars and this man his family. The feds don’t care. Money doesn’t matter to people in government who don’t earn it and have been given a pass for so long to spend it foolishly and how they deem appropriate. The tax payer can go to hell for all they care.

    • Cyberats

      Faith and god nothing, you want to stand for something go stand by him now or forever be counted as a coward, like the rest of us will be. You’re no better.

    • MBruceQuarles

      The price of liberty for American citizens is to costly to expect one family ( Bundy ) to cover it.
      Unless the thugs on our payroll at the federal level quit terrorizing this family and gives them a large amount of money ( ours ) for compensation they should be drug from our buildings and given very, very short trials prior to being executed!

    • Wendy Brewer

      I live in Nevada and I support BUNDY!!!

    • josetoyou

      I am sure that “dirty harry” is looking the other way…

    • Harry Wookiee

      The people will, but the gooberment won’t. How did those “environmentalists” get so much power? “They” need to be knocked down a few notches and laughed out of any court they enter.

    • Thom DelForge

      Beyond stupid! Hiring mercenaries and snipers won’t go well. I suggest any ‘patriots’, take a breath of freash air and get a grip on reality. From all accounts Bundy has not tried to be reasonable. Suggesting the way to handle this situation is get your ‘pea-shooters’ and play army will not end well for the Bundiy’s and any supporters — already seen that movie.

    • dcrasta

      He’s been using public land for profit for over 20 years time for him to obey the law.

    • julie

      OWN this country? You mean stole this country and now can’t believe they do the same to you because why?

    • Andrew

      yeah, the constitution begins “We the People”..Not “This Here Environment”!!

  • Marcial Reiley

    I spent 9 days in the Gold Butte Area of Critical Environmental Concern recently, not my first trip there. It’s clear to me that Mr. Bundy’s heritage is actually just a legacy of trashing our public lands. The cows he calls his are feral except for an occasional brand. Calves are born year round and can’t survive the harshest months. These cattle exist in an area where it can be 100 yards or more between the next mouthful of bunchgrass. What water sources there are have become slime and dung covered seeps. Cattle turn the soil into sand and dust. Gold Butte was never a range, it’s a desert. This is an area rich in beauty and significant in historical artifacts but Mr. Bundy does not appreciate or respect any culture other than his own. Gold Butte needs to be cow free, it needs to recover.

    • jumara

      you sound like a person with an axe to grind not an impartial observer.would you be of native American heritage by any chance?

      • Marcial Reiley

        No and no. Just an honest opinion from someone who’s been there.

        • Antonio Da Silva

          Cows reverse the terrain becoming desert :D so he actually helps the tortoise, and I have done canvassing for the environment and collected hand written letters to congress.

          • Michael Davis

            Does this change the fact that this guy is not following the law? When should we follow the laws then, when its convenient? I do not like getting a ticket for speeding, but if I did the crime, I pay up, simple as that. We live in a society with laws and rules, if you do not like it, you can have them changed or move somewhere else, basic social contract theory. Just because one person does not feel the need to play by the rules does not exempt them from consequences. Other ranchers play by the rules and so should this mooch.

          • roony

            Except Obama and many in the government are not folllowing the laws, so we live in a lawless society. If the federal government acted with in it proper restraints I doubt this would even be a story. But now it up to the people to preserve the Constitution and prevent complete power over us by the government. which is supposed to be of and by the people.

          • Michael Davis

            When have the governments ever followed the law? Look at all the previous presidents “executive signing orders”… its not just Obama, its always been happening… does it make it right? Nope. But its an inherent flaw of the system, not one man.

          • roony

            yes and well i am dissapointed it taken so long to reconized it. It good that people are wakin up to the unlimited powers the federal government has claimed. I feel that if we don’t draw the line aganist it we will be the generations that those citizins of Rome let ceaser destroy the republic.

          • RobNClt

            No one has written as many executive orders that hurt the nation as Obama. They all do but he is extreme.

            Remember, I have a pen and I have a phone? It’s time we snatched the pens from his hand and cut the cord to the phone. U.S. citizens need relief from an overbearing federal government that is bent on changing our lives whether we want it or not. We don’t want it.

          • HughJorgan69

            Hey Genius, Your BOY, G.W. “Shrub” Bush wrote 291 executive orders, and President Obama has written 168-Looks like you’re just another lying Conservative Republican, as most are! I guess you know where to put your pen?

          • HughJorgan69

            Hey Genius, Your BOY, G.W. “Shrub” Bush wrote 291 executive orders, and President Obama has written 168-Looks like you’re just another lying Conservative Republican, as most are! I guess you know where to put your pen?

          • Ken

            The real issue is the courts who now instead of backing the people back the government and its crimes. Because it is the government it is legal does not matter anymore what the constitution or the law says. You as a subject are wrong.

          • Antonio Da Silva

            That doesn’t make it inherent. It’s coming from democrats and republicans, not the democratic system.

          • pjdjmj

            That is democrat and republican establishment, which are one and the same essentially. They do not believe in or care about our Constitution only about One World Government. Conquer the world – more ruthless than Gengis Khan ever thought to be.

          • John D

            Executive orders are legal to use for administrative purposes only. That is how Bush used them. Obama is using them to bypass congress, which is illegal.
            Wise up dummy. You are making a fool of yourself.

          • concretetundra

            We don’t live in a lawless society. Good Lord. You’re really making a leap here. There’s a rancher who has been breaking the law for twenty years. He hasn’t paid the grazing fees. And you conclude that we are living in a lawless society? Sounds like the law finally caught up to this guy.

          • bloodyspartan

            You are a fool yes it it lawless and a fraudulent pres.
            Let me count the Votes electronically.

            Every body in my local district knew the winner.
            Romney wanted to lose.

            And now Internet voting.
            ROTFLMAO

            Cowards and Traitors all.
            Are you.

            Then do you duty and right per the Declaration.

          • rj4510

            what gives the government the right to tax a rancher on grass that grows back every year? it’s not putting the government out. unconstitutional laws are not laws and do not have to be followed. The BLM are thieves, trespassers, potential murderers and need to answer for their crimes

          • roony

            What i am saying is that,the government has an attitude of being above the law and getting away with many things are are in violation of the law. So if your view of a lawless society is were the citizens must obey a lawless government. Look at the NDAA that allows for any American to be arrested without trial, or the fact that less then a year ago the U.S government claimed they could kill any Citizen with out trial to conduct the war on terror as they deemed fit. The wiretaping,the harrasment of Americans by the IRS. A government that has issued the national resource emergency EO that gives the government control over all property when needed. A government that has let the EPA infringe of property rights with regulations not even approved or reviewed by congress. A President who thinks he can change the law at whim is not a lawless society? A government that mocks people when they question coverups and corruption is lawless? A government threating and intimidating reports like they did with James rosen and the Ap reporters is not lawless?

          • Antonio Da Silva

            The law? Who voted for the BLM? Why do they get to create laws that nobody voted for?

          • John D

            You sound like an inner city moron.

          • concretetundra

            Is that you Paul Ryan?

          • roony

            i agree with your view as it is my view but the current stituation of our government. Has pretty much rendered our civil laws and court systems inefficent with the broad violation they stand in, such as IRS,NSA and letting big banks get bailouts for being corrputed and the fact they are getting away with it.

          • Art O’Connell

            Ever heard of a GRANDFATHER CLAUSE, its from WAYYYYY back when we were a constitutional republic. and furthermore, you liken a man making a living on his familys farm for 150 years to speeding..and his resistance to give up his livelihood because some commie jackoff has a turtle fetish.

          • John D

            God response. Of course it is wasted on that macaroon.

          • Maynard

            These are not laws; they are regulations made my unelected bureaucrats. And this whole biodiversity thing is a bunch of malarky meant to deprive us of our property rights. This story is a good reason why the states should take their lands from the federal government. The federal government should not own 70-80% of a state.

          • Linda

            BINGO!

          • Way West 56

            His family owned the land before the “law” existed. Seems to me that “pre-eminence” gives him the right to do what he wants with the land. Grandfathered rights that the Government cannot remove, revise or sidestep. He owns the land, not the Government. The tortoise story is just another BS environmentalist excuse. Compensate him incredibly well for the land or get the heck off it, US Government. And this sounds like another Waco and Ruby Ridge just waiting to happen again. Will a “self set fire” be the Government excuse for burning him off of his own property or will Lon Horiuchi just start taking his shots? This smells of a tyrannic, out of control Government to me. And since when does the Government need 200+ men, snipers, dogs, and helicopters to force a citizen to comply..? And will the US Military show up with their tanks.? And just where is Lon Horiuchi this time around? Time to rid ourselves of the heavy hand of Government and their “steal our property by taxation without representation” tactics.

          • roony

            I wonder what they do one some one does not want obamacare.

          • embarassed1

            You’re right. His family has been using this land since 1866. I live in Utah, know the area pretty well. It is the MOST useless, god-forsaken he11hole probably on earth. (at least the sahara has SOME oil)! ANYONE who can do something/anything with the ground is to be commended. BTW – most all of the water sources (for desert tortoises)have been put in by the Bundys. I suspect the desert tortoise would have been extinct long ago on this land if it were not for the Bundy’s. I don’t know him (bundy) personally, but I KNOW that many more ranchers have been forced off their meager allotments also. Most of them just don’t “have the fight” in them necessary to take on the all-powerful (and unlimited budget)federal government!

          • Antonio Da Silva

            Michael, what law? The one from Nevada formed by people who were elected by voters which says, it is his land according to Nevada law.

            Now the BLM was not elected, and says that it’s illegal for him to have his cattle graze on the land because they took it over in the name of tortoises that they just killed 700 of themselves?

            Nobody elected the BLM and the main law in America is the constitution so if the BLM law goes against the main law in America it to me doesn’t exist as a law. I am happy Bundy is standing up for our rights.

            He does this for others not for himself. If they shoot him or arrest him, that would not be good for him at all. Yet he risks it for all the good people in America eho are next in line to be illegally taken down by the federal tyranny.

            So what rules Michael? The ones we voted for, or the ones the BLM made up for no reason?

          • Confucius

            The federal government including the executive and many of the agencies within do not obey the law.

            They are the ones who have set the example.

            Perhaps you do not see what millions of us have seen and know to be true.

            Have a nice day…

          • John D

            I hope he has a terrible day. And may his life be filled with suffering.

          • Guest

            What about the state of colorado and it’s dope smoking population? The last time I heard,it’s against federal law to smoke and deal in illegal drugs,why aren’t the feds in colorado arresting all these lawbreakers?And what about all the convicted felons that carry illegal guns,why aren’t the feds going after them?

          • John D

            Uh… because Obama is a pot smoker?

          • Jonathan Plus Abby

            Our government that WRITES the laws only follows the laws when convenient. So, why shouldn’t this guy. It’s time to reverse the script and show up on the Government’s doorstep the next time they do something illegal like oh, selling guns to Mexican Drug Cartels and shut them down.

          • John D

            You are an ignorant fool.

            Thomas Jefferson said: “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”

            You sound like the NAZI criminals at the Nuremburg trials that said ” I was just following orders”. Most of them were executed.

          • peter the great

            So if they made a law saying they can bend your wife over would you follow it? Just saying that the law seems unfair in my opinion.

          • http://bullpasturechronicles.blogspot.com/ BullPasture

            We no longer live in a society of laws and the federal government is the biggest lawbreaker of all. Did the constitution give the federal government the power to tell you that you cannot grow your own tomatoes for your own consumption when it gave congress the power to regulate congress? It did not. Yet the feds claim this power Did the constitution grant the feds the power to regulate firearms? It explicitly prohibits that power yet the feds claim it every day. Did the constitution give the feds the power to set educational standards or provide social security or health care? No it did not yet the feds exercise this power everyday. Did the constitution give the supreme court the authority to expand federal power or give it to congress by majority vote? It did not and provided a very explicit process whereby additional power can be granted to the feds. Yet congress and the courts ignore that process as an anachronism and expand federal power regularly.

          • pjdjmj

            This ranch was grandfathered in. Even if it was not, Illegals do not obey the law and that is just fine with the Feds.

        • djs1138

          But you don’t live there…so perhaps you should focus on your neighborhood before outsiders come to dictate to you…

          • Curly Bill

            He’s a “progressive” and therefore has an unalienable right (and genetic predisposition) to dictate to others.

          • Michael Davis

            And what does that make you, a regressive?

          • Tommy Tunez

            Mikie, take your meds now.

          • John D

            That comment labels you as a fool.

          • John D

            That is a very dangerous position for him. Where I live, meddling in other peoples business can be harmful to your health.

          • roony

            We should all be protesting the obamacare mandate, that dication.

          • Marcial Reiley

            These are and always have been public lands. I’ve dictated nothing.

          • aberdeenvet

            Our big government does dictate to ALL of us already. They must be stopped at any cost.

        • Curly Bill

          And therefore thinks he has the right to declare how the land should be used, to the exclusion of everyone else. Let me guess. You’re a “progressive,” right?

        • Richard Kimble

          Your reasoning and response seem logical. Where did that come from?

        • HughJorgan69

          Marcial-These knuckledraggers on here wouldn’t know a desert from a rain forest and most of them have probably never even seen a live cow, all they know is it comes in a wrapped package at the store and they don’t really care what happens to get it there. This old fart just doesn’t feel like he has to follow the rules (reminds me of the brainless people who end up in jail because they say they don’t have to pay taxes because of something they read on the Internet) and now he is getting exactly what he deserves!

          • John D

            Follow the rules? Follow regulations imposed by faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats? May I remind you of what Thomas Jefferson said on this subject?

            “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”

            Maybe you should try to understand the Constitution and the founding fathers intent. Or are you another left wing commie?

        • peter the great

          His family has been there for generations and the cows have been there for generations. I really don’t see your logic. You claim to have visited the area but its not your home, its his! What concern is it of yours what he does where he lives to provide for his family. the grazing obviously hasn’t affected the area because they have been grazing there since 1884. Compared to all the pollution and eco damage the government and big business that operates with the governments blessing this is minimal at best. But the most important reason why you are on the wrong side of this debate is this. The government can give two sh*ts about the land recovery or the stupid turtle. There going after this guy because he refuses to pay the government money they claim he owes for the cows grazing. Don’t you get it stupid? this is a shake down by big brother. they just want their cut like the mafia. And this brave man, his family and friends are standing up to these lunch money bullies who think there entitled to everything just because they make a law that says so. the govt is sending armed goons to his area. stealing his property (cows) ARRESTING IS SON FOR TAKING PICTURES! and taking away peoples free speech, the worst offence of all in my opinion. And your opinion is misguided and it’s obvious you have an agenda.

        • peter the great

          His family has been there for generations and the cows have been there for generations. I really don’t see your logic. You claim to have visited the area but its not your home, its his! What concern is it of yours what he does where he lives to provide for his family. the grazing obviously hasn’t affected the area because they have been grazing there since 1884. Compared to all the pollution and eco damage the government and big business that operates with the governments blessing this is minimal at best. But the most important reason why you are on the wrong side of this debate is this. The government can give two sh*ts about the land recovery or the stupid turtle. There going after this guy because he refuses to pay the government money they claim he owes for the cows grazing. Don’t you get it stupid? this is a shake down by big brother. they just want their cut like the mafia. And this brave man, his family and friends are standing up to these lunch money bullies who think there entitled to everything just because they make a law that says so. the govt is sending armed goons to his area. stealing his property (cows) ARRESTING IS SON FOR TAKING PICTURES! and taking away peoples free speech, the worst offence of all in my opinion. And your opinion is misguided and it’s obvious you have an agenda.

        • pjdjmj

          MR, why were you there? Vacation? I think not. BTW, my cousin has cattle and does not brand. He said most ranchers do not anymore as it weakens the animal. Pro-government intrusion posts do not mention Mr. Bundy’s family has been ranching there since the 1800s. Tortoises have survived just fine.

    • Antonio Da Silva

      So if you are a true environmentalist how can you support the BLM? They sell whales to Sea World. They actually just killed 700 tortoises themselves, how many has cattle killed?

      Cattle erase desertification. Look it up, it’s science, look up the Savory Institute, they even have a Ted Talk all about how they are reversing desertification by introducing cattle, which eat the grass and fertilize it.

      Without cattle the grass overgrows, and the sun cannot reach it, and what happens as a result is the area turns into a desert.

      So why not support Bundy?

      Read for yourself the BLM killed 700 tortoises.

      Throughout the housing boom in the 2000s, the Bureau was earning enough to fund the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center (DTCC) in southern Las Vegas, a habitat “created in 1991 to house wild desert tortoises removed from the path of development and to use those tortoises to aid recovery of the species.” Its operating budget was about $1 million per year.

      But the recession that followed dwindled the number of developers, and in turn funds for the DTCC.

      So, facing the prospect of shutting their doors, the DTCC began releasing healthier turtles into the wild, and euthanizing some of the sick ones.

      From August 25, 2013:

      Back at the conservation center, a large refrigerator labeled “carcass freezer” hummed in the desert sun as scientists examined the facility’s 1,400 inhabitants to find those hearty enough to release into the wild. Officials expect to euthanize more than half the animals in the coming months in preparation for closure at the end of 2014.

      “It’s the lesser of two evils, but it’s still evil,” Roy Averill-Murray, tortoise recovery coordinator with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service desert, told the AP.

      • Marcial Reiley

        This area IS a desert, not a feedlot. Also BLM does not sell whales or have anything to do with the ocean, your comment about 700 tortoises is also misleading.

        • Antonio Da Silva

          Your comments are misleading, first you have not admitted you’re being paid to comment. Second, they did kill 700 tortoises right? They rounded them up, didn’t take care of them, and only released half back into the wild. So in fact had they done nothing we would be +700 tortoises. In which way do you feel mislead by that?

          Yes cattle turn deserts into healthy soil, look it up. Savory Institute, they have a Ted Talk, and Facebook page.

        • peter the great

          i bet you agree with carbon taxation and global warming also.

      • John D

        You make a good argument, but the fool you are talking to will never understand.

    • Steve

      Sounds like you are related to this brain dead eco-nut…

      “It’s high time for the BLM to do its job and give the [endangered desert] tortoises and the Gold Butte area the protection they need and are legally entitled to,” senior Center for Biological Diversity scientist Rob Mrowka told the Mesquite Local News. “As the tortoises emerge from their winter sleep, they are finding their much-needed food consumed by cattle.”

      Bundy’s herd also hinders the plants’ ability to recover from wildfires, tramples rare species, damages ancient American Indian cultural sites and endangers recreationists, Mrowka added.

      This mental midget needs to go skydiving, naked, and land on a cactus.

      • Spazponey

        Funny question… were there not bison hanging around the US for a few million years in massive herds millions of members strong that ALSO roamed the same areas maybe? How ever did the poor little torty survive? Could it be that there is an ecological component to our vast grazing areas that is lacking today?

        • Antonio Da Silva

          Spazponey when we had bison grazing there those lands were lush. By removing any cattle the land turns to desert. Look it up Savory Institute they have a facebook page, and Ted Talk. Also another contributor to the desert instead of lush land is that they had another one of these “environmental” initiatives and removed all prairy grass causing what’s known as the dust bowl.

        • Rhonda Renee Sessions

          More than likely. Just like the eco-nuts had the wolf removed from Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, et al… turns out it was an integral part of the ecosystem and needed to be re-instated to restore it. God has created the perfect environment for everything to work together, harmoniously and symbiotically… until man comes along and screws it all up!

          • peter the great

            Yea i bet you tell that to the waitress while your ordering at the steak house.or when your using items that are non-biodegradable or when you flush the toilet or when you douche your snatch! I love stupid people like you. You believe the nonsense that the government and big business quack about saving the environment. You don’t even realize that the people who fill your head with that bull are that people that cause the most pollution, carbon emissions and overall detrimental effects to the ecosystem. And you say “man” screws it up as if you are some sort of rare exotic bird. What do you think you are lady a sheep. Your a lousy hypocrite. You think the government is worried about some desert turtle? There harassing this meager farmer with 900 head of cattle who has been tending to his herd for years for money. As if 900 head have any effect on the ecosystem of Nevada compared to Microsoft, coca cola, and every other multinational conglomerate that you suckle from. If you really wanna save the environment why don’t you destroy your house drink from a river and hunt deer with a bow and arrow because that’s the only way your ever gonna be making a difference you sicken me lady truely .

          • Rhonda Renee Sessions

            Boy, have you got an issue with reading comprehension! If you’d go back and read my post, you’d see that I am AGAINST eco-nuts! It galls me to no end that more emphasis is given to those that think they’re more knowledgable about the ecosystem that God created and want to disrupt it. That’s what happened when they took the wolf out of its natural environment because it was considered a “menace” to everyone in it. So, why don’t you do a Google and find out what happened when the eco-nuts got their way, and why the wolf was reintroduced to its natural habitat. And while you’re at it, find out about the little smelt fish that Obama is willing to protect over the needs of millions… instead of releasing the water that is needed for the agricultural needs of California, which provides food for the world. I’m against the over-reaching idiots who put the value of a tiny fish that does nothing over the feeding millions of people.

            BTW, as you so snidely put it? I DO hunt deer with a compound bow! But that’s because I would rather the feds (and snitches) not hear the report of gunfire, when the time comes when guns will be outlawed!

          • peter the great

            oh my bad

      • twinstick1

        I would think that he would find a much better place to land. Like an alligator farm…

      • Marcial Reiley

        “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” – Mark Twain

        • William Hofmeister

          Not taking sides on this issue, just like your response.

        • Antonio Da Silva

          I do think that is clever, but at the same time, it’s only advice it doesn’t perfectly apply to every situation.

        • peter the great

          That is such a cowardly response. Your taking the easy way out by quoting a semi- intellectual with a mediocre quote because you have nothing to defend your unintelligible views.

      • John D

        The BLM has been responsible for the rounding up and slaughter of thousands of free range (wild) horses. I guess it’s easier to manage when you don’t have all those horses running around.
        They also support clear cutting of forest areas, which destroys wildlife habitat.
        These people are criminals and should all be tried, convicted and hung for their crimes.

    • Toast

      9 days, hummmm you must be an expert. LTFOL

    • ExPat_in_Krakow

      “The cows he calls his are feral except for an occasional brand. Calves are born year round and can’t survive the harshest months. These cattle exist in an area where it can be 100 yards or more between the next mouthful of bunchgrass. What water sources there are have become slime and dung covered seeps. Cattle turn the soil into sand and dust.”

      That’s all some very descriptive prose. However, a picture is worth a thousand words. You were there for 9 days. Your profile photo is a selfie with your dog.

      I’m willing to believe you, if you’re willing to point me in the direction of the photos you took during your nine-day visit. I assume that you did take photos, that you care enough about the subject to (have) post(ed) them online, and that they will show exactly what you described in intimate and irrefutable detail.

      Please don’t tell me that you take selfies of you and your handsome pooch, but not your experience of nine days in a beautiful desert that is being trashed by some rancher?

    • Art O’Connell

      his family scratched a living out of that desert with hard work, determination, and FREEDOM. go suck a tortoise shell.

    • embarassed1

      The “water sources” that you refer to were, for the most part DEVELOPED by Mr. Bundy. The feds didn’t pay HIM a dime for any of that. The desert tortoise would have been extinct (at least in this area)70 yrs. ago if not for the Bundy’s. Lets hope none of these readers have ever actually SEEN the area. “Rich in beauty and significant historical artifacts” its NOT. Even the Piutes avoided the area.
      BTW – why not eliminate all the herds of wild horses throughout Nv. ? THEY are mostly feral too.
      “Gold Butte needs to recover”? Recover to WHAT exactly?
      ANYONE who has seen this area is laughing at you!

  • Andrew

    It’s illegal for cows to graze because of the potential harm to the desert tortoise, but it’s an open public recreation area? They seem to think that anyone other than federal government are nothing but incompetent children incapable of empathy towards the very wildlife and land that they are directly reliant upon…Sure, perhaps spoiled city dwellers who don’t KNOW ANYTHING about the back country, but country folk who tend the land? These feds aren’t going after them to protect anything..they’re going in to drive them off land they have selected for further economic development for themselves.

    • richard_head

      Them hummers running over them turtles don’t hurt.

    • Antonio Da Silva

      Exactly. Anyways Cattle reverse desertification. The Savory Institute has an entire Ted Talk on it.

    • Animal A

      Not illegal for cows to graze.
      Its illegal for cows to graze for free.

      Since 1934 there has been a law you can use the land for a fee. The rancher decided to stop paying the fee more than a decade ago and wants to be exempted. Everyone else complies with law. Get over it. He is a free loader.

      • ratbag

        Exactly. There are freeloaders like the Bundys all over state land. People who have built cabins. dams, etc. as second homes and then claim they’re grandfathered in. They graze their cattle, sheep and refuse to pay for them. It’s amazing how everyone else on here is so entitled.

        • Anon ymous

          Silly Trolls, the Truth is for real Americans. Let us simplify for you, shall we? Is a “Fee” a form of tax? YES. Is a “Tax” unconstitutional? YES. Debate over, let them eat.

          • Copper Skinned Brawnstud

            wat

        • John D

          Wah wah wah. You are a fool.

        • Cheapshot

          why, does the government own all the land in america? who is the government?

      • Wayne Van Scoyoc

        I agree but if and only if the fees are actually used for the purpose of restoring only those lands for which the fee was paid and no other purposes whatsoever. Also if the desert tortoise is so important, then no permits should be issued to anyone for grazing cattle there. That doesn’t seem to be the case here. It seems that permits are always issued as long as a fee is paid. The public and grazers should be able to use public lands. Public lands are owned by everybody. You just can’t go in there and damage it.

      • Antonio Da Silva

        Animal A that isn’t true. Also who else complied with the law, every other farm on the land were driven out. It’s the first thing Bundy mentions when he says he is the last man around there standing. So if everyone complied, can you point to their ranch? Oh so you mean nobody complied because complying with them is impossible to do :D Thanks Bundy for standing up for people!

        • Animal A

          I don’t live there and can not point to any one in particular. This is one slanted point of view, if you read the LOCAL papers they are not standing with Mr. Bundy.
          As far the as the tortoise it is red herring and meant to be inflammatory. The issue is not paying the fee. As far as where the fee goes, it is pretty much up the BLM as the law is written.
          Those who don’t like the law need to lobby their politicians to change it – not just ignore it.

      • Andrew

        No, it’s NOT illegal for the cows to graze for free…It’s THEIR land..it belongs to Clark County..NOT the Federal Government…

        The BLM has already USED all the money paid to them to force every other Ranger in that county off their property…Bundy stopped paying them because he refused to Pay them to shoot him in the back. That money was meant to PROTECT their right, NOT usurp it!!..He’s the LAST RANCHER STANDING and he’s NOT complying with their ILLEGAL LAWS!!

  • John Craig

    I agree with the government on this! Mr. Bundy sounds like one of these sovereign country guys that thinks he can just use what ever he likes to further his own income, without paying up like his fellow ranchers! I would guess he makes millions off of his cattle and with 14 children and a huge ranch and many heads of cattle that is almost a forgone conclusion! So payup Mr. Bundy and lead the good life like all of your fellow rancher neighbors!!!!

    • jumara

      you speak like a person with very little knowledge regard this situation.right now they are keeping water from farmers and ranchers in oregon and allowing it to flow into the ocean.you and the feds should leave people alone and allow this country to be great once again.people like you make the rest of us sick.

      • Marcial Reiley

        Salmon need water too. Fishermen need salmon to make a living.

        • jumara

          what I said still stands only now I’m sure my estimate of you was spot on.suckee fish should be standard scraps for some people.

          • Marcial Reiley

            Since you seem incapable or unwilling to express an intelligent thought, I’ll leave it with this: “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” – Mark Twain

          • Steve

            And another clueless clown who values dirt and weeds over people’s livelihoods.

          • jumara

            too bad you can’t separate truth from fiction.your right I won’t answer you again don’t want anyone to know I was dumb enough to discuss anything with you.

          • John D

            So far I’ve had no problem recognizing you as the fool.

        • roony

          The point is the federal government has taken over land that was his not orginally theirs.

          • Marcial Reiley

            This area has always been federal land. The point is that there is a lot anger over this issue but few people seem to actually know the facts, just acting on emotions.

          • roony

            Do you know where it says it always been federal land before the government in 1993 said it was not his land? All the news sites i looked at seem to be saying what i found.

          • Marcial Reiley

            This was Federal land open to grazing permits until 1993 when a legal agreement was made with Clark County.

          • roony

            http://abcnews.go.com/Business/nevada-rancher-threatens-range-war-feds/story?id=23225314

            So it was his land and open to grazing untill the passed this law, that cut off his rights to use it,they offered to buy it he refused and said he would pay the county but they did not accept it. So this is clearly that Bundy is a victim of a law that never took ranchers in to consideration.

          • Curly Bill

            Federal land? That means it belongs to the people. Including me. The Bundys can use my piece for anything they want. Free of charge.

      • Curly Bill

        He’s a “progressive.” He doesn’t need no stinkin’ facts.

    • roony

      i think i was orginally his property and the government took over part of his property that touched federal land.

      • Marcial Reiley

        No this was always federal land.

        • roony

          Where are you getting that, from what i seen there appears to be a clash that he saying since 1870 his famly held the title. Then some time in 1993 the government took it away and it has not been enforced till now.

          • Marcial Reiley

            He claims it as his own. His family homesteaded in Bunkerville but then claims 350,000+ acres as theirs. This is and always has been federal land.

          • Curly Bill

            So if it is “Federal land” he has as much right to use it as anyone else.

          • roony

            So this is an issue that need to be resolved with land deed inspectors, not snipers. The way the goverment is acting is not very intune with a government of the people… You think then they would at least let him buy the land if it is the federal government land. If the government just lets him buy the land it would be all over, maybe that how it will end. But the fact they are forcable taking cattle and creating a no speech zone is bad impression.

          • Wayne Van Scoyoc

            Homesteading never allowed homesteading anywhere near that much land, usually only 160 acres. No way 350,000 acres.

        • johnnybgood2525

          No you are wrong, its been his family’s land for over 100 years

          • ratbag

            He “claims” it has. That is at variance with the facts.

          • Marcial Reiley

            Federal land, which he paid grazing permits on until 1993.

    • richard_head

      running 900 head on 150 sq miles will not make you rich.

      • Marcial Reiley

        350,000 square miles, actually closer to a half million as cattle range into Lake Mead area and Grand Canyon Parashant National Monument.

        • Spazponey

          So… any chance this area used to be lousy with bison?

        • wvweightgs

          Let us see. One square mile is a square one mile long on each of the four sides that make it up. And he has 350,000 square miles, Are you using the common core math to come up with this figure? I do not think that just might be quite correct. O yes you are really showing your troll affiliation with each post.

          • Marcial Reiley

            Yes, my typo. 350,000 acres. Not trolling.

        • Stephen G. McKee

          I think you need to check your math

    • Antonio Da Silva

      Actually look it up beef prices are at record highs, so just pointlessly removing 900 cows is actually selfish.

      People will eat more affordable with these cows available especially during the current food shortage.

      • Marcial Reiley

        Less than 4% of cattle are grazed on public lands.

        • Stephen G. McKee

          I think that is due to restrictions over the last 20 years and resulting in catastrophic forest fires and heavy loss of useful timber. I question that it is good management.

    • johnnybgood2525

      This has been he and his family’s land for over a 100 years, the govt want to take it to save a turtle, you’re an idiot just like the govt nazi’s are.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Granata/100003136789363 Ken Granata

      Something to think about, John. Whose support can you expect when you’re next? It won’t be in Nevada. It’ll be in your town for a reason you never dreamed of. When you allow government at any level to have this much power and this much armament, you do so at you peril. Dead men tell no tales and the bullet that kills you or a loved one will be paid for by YOUR tax dollars. It is merely a matter of time.

      • Earthworm Farm Ga.

        that is the point. dot on………..

    • John D

      And the peanut gallery chimes in.

  • Bruce Keyes

    I say the Bundy family not the BLD have rights there, the gov’t walks in says they now control in and need money from you, its just BS, this government cancer is unrestrained,

    • Animal A

      How would possibly know who has rights there? His family never owned the land, they just let their cattle graze on it. It has belonged to the government since 1934, long before this fool was alive.

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    What are you going to do when they come for you.
    Wake up Americans.
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    • YERMOM182

      good. Democracy is for assholes. America is a Republic.

      • http://batman-news.com Kullikoff

        I don’t want a government to “protect” me or do anything else “for” me. I want a government to keep the &^%k out of my life and business.

  • Tim Crowley

    He’s tresspassing. End of story.

    • roony

      No the issue is that the government is claiming part of Bundy land is the goverment land after it had orginally been his untill in 1993. But then said it was the government land, thus taking away his land now by force under some law to protect some animal, which I support but not at the expense of some one who had orginally owned the land.

      • mike2000917

        “I have raised cattle on that land, which is public land for the people of Clark County, all my life.” Those are his words. Where do you get the idea that he owns the land? In fact, it never even says that his ancestors owned the land.
        He is a parasite. This is not conservative/liberal issue.

      • http://batman-news.com Kullikoff

        It’s part of the UN’s Agenda 21 to restrict humans to specific “highly controlled” zones.

    • Steve

      Maybe you should actually try reading the story.

  • PEACEOUT

    The government has been trying to start a revolution with the people for the longest time now. They repeatedly do not follow the constitution and are robbing the tax payers blind. They are in a corrupt alliance with the federal reserve who are destroying the country. Through pumping of fiat money and no attempt to create jobs they are purposely trying to drive all Americans into poverty. Except for the elite that is.

    • ratbag

      Get a grip!

      • PEACEOUT

        Get a brain!

        • ratbag

          I have a brain and don’t spout nonsense like a Foxbot.

  • Swoop

    CBD has ZERO standing here.

    • Steve

      Sure he does…IT WAS HIS LAND

      • Swoop

        Center for Biological Diversity has ZERO standing here. They need to go back inside their teepees and stop bothering citizens with their ridiculous claims. Animals have no property rights.

      • Swoop

        CBD: Center for Biological Diversity formerly known as Western Center for Biological Diversity.

  • Niko Bellic

    jack booted chicago thugs