Illegal immigrants have ‘punishment’ in mind for GOP over immigration reform

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Illegal immigrants and other advocates of immigration reform have run out of patience waiting on the Republican Party to capitulate to their demands and plan to “punish” those who stand in the way.

The groups plan a more aggressive campaign that includes “confronting Republican lawmakers at public appearances, congressional hearings and events back in home districts,” Politico reported.

“Obviously, persuasion only got us so far,” said Kica Matos, a spokeswoman for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement. “What we are now doing is to switch tactics from persuasion to punishment.”

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Matos comments mimic the words of former Service Employees International Union president Andy Stern, who once said, “[W]e prefer to use the power of persuasion, but if that doesn’t work we use the persuasion of power.”

Fair Immigration Reform Movement’s goal is to shame Republicans, according to Politico. A goal that is consistent with the tactics of SEIU, which fully supports immigration reform despite the added competition for American jobs it will bring.

The change in attitude comes on the heels of House speaker John Boehner expressing doubts last week that immigration reform could be passed this year — a sign that he does not have the votes needed among fellow Republicans.

Matos said the confrontations can be expected for the next two months, with House Republicans in Latino-heavy swing districts being targeted.

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Tom Tillison

Tom is a grassroots activist who distinguished himself as one of the top conservative bloggers in Florida before joining BizPac Review.He can be reached at TomTillisonFL@gmail.com
About Tom Tillison

Tom is a grassroots activist who distinguished himself as one of the top conservative bloggers in Florida before joining BizPac Review. He can be reached at TomTillisonFL@gmail.com

  • Abunchofbullshit

    Bring it on! We have a right to have America be America and not the UN…..isn’t that why people come here?? What part of Illegal don’t you illegals understand?? If I try that in your country they would usher me to the border or throw me in prison! If you haven’t seen “They Come to America” strongly suggest doing so and passing it on since Hollywood and Documentary festivals won’t touch it. theycometoamerica.com

    • EliseR

      The Obama Administration has deported 2 million undocumented immigrants in 5 years — more than any other administration. You should love him.

      • Abunchofbullshit

        Ha, love is a strong word. I hear ya on the deportations, though too selective and there shouldn’t be a criminal or gang member left here. The problem is that our gov’t (both sides) are like a dog chasing their tale and haven’t figured out that putting your finger in the dam is the most important thing to do, per law from the late 80′s. We need to stop the flow and start picking, and we certainly should not be subsidizing them in any way, which we are; they even advertise in Mexico so they know what to do relative to food stamps and the like when they come over. Here in FL any hotel staff is all Spanish and most weak on their English skills. We all know that their are teenagers and other blacks and whites that would love those jobs (black teenage unemployment is now 38%), but the immigrants work cheaper thus the Chamber of Commerce is pushing this for their hotel owner members. Special interest sucks, and they need to start doing what they are sent to Washington for; American interests!

      • Bob

        Yah, but he won’t deport his criminal uncle or his criminal half brother or his welfare abusing aunt.

        • SusieQ

          it’s difficult to justify the post by Elise when you deport one and ten come over the border in their place. By the way, while they are disrupting an event it would be a good place for ICE to find and arrest them for being illegal.

      • Jan C White

        please share with me where you got those statistics

        • David Kerr

          The reply is Elsie is a paid troll.

      • sandra

        They’re including those caught at the border and sent back, not those already here

        • James88

          So we shouldn’t catch anyone at the border and instead send them back after they have established themselves here?

          • EmpressL

            There are 5,500,000 Expired Visas roaming around the US taking US jobs. They need to be deported.

            http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/10/20100510illegal-immigrants-overstay.html#ixzz2MfqTZkTeLou Barretta

          • James88

            Taking U.S. jobs? Or given U.S. jobs? Also, these 5,500 expired visas also belong to children and some elderly. Are they too taking jobs?
            Face it, the only reason unemployment is up is because of the generosity of the welfare state. Do away with that or make it even more strict and you’ll see unemployment drop.

          • MSG L

            illegal is illegal. Do not dress it up by calling them “undocumented”. DEPORT them and let them apply for Citizenship.

          • James88

            I can call them whatever I feel like calling them. Illegal, undocumented, unauthorized, trespassers, invaders, etc. And please, get it through your thick skull, you CANNOT apply for Citizenship until you have received PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS and maintained said status for five years.

      • puffdaddy

        That figure is touted but it is untrue – do more research than the nightly news and Salon

      • takawalk
  • Mauricio Carvallan

    Mexican Bitches, Get the hell out of My Country, Bring it on, We will Open Fire on you!!!!!!!

  • aliswell

    Since it’s illegal to have a gun in DC, I suggest any Republican lawmaker who feels he/she may be targeted come armed with a horsewhip. These cretins need to be thrashed.

  • Lynn

    Maybe they should become LEGAL Citizens like so many others has. I am sick of the rhetoric. They are NOT Citizens of this COUNTRY.

    • James88

      Don’t you think if these people COULD become citizens, they WOULD become citizens?

      • EmpressL

        NO! I thought you said they were only here for our JOBS. They should NOT have any social services also.

        • James88

          What are you talking about? My comment was only meant to show that there is no process available for the common illegal immigrant that doesn’t involve banishment for 10 years. What social services do these people collect and how?

      • MSG L

        Sorry james, why do they not apply for Citizenship legally instead of getting “special consideration”? The process is NOT difficult unless you break the law. Oh, thats right….they ARE breaking the law.

        • James88

          Because Citizenship is not a McDonalds application, nor should it be. The process is very difficult not to mention arduous. The typical illegal immigrant that has only one entry without inspection is immediately subject to a punishment of 10 years outside the country. To apply for re-entry the fastest way possible would be to be petitioned by a parent, spouse or son that is a USC. After that they must apply for a waiver I-601 which is sent to the Attorney General. He has full discretion over the case.

          • MSG L

            Yes, james the process is not supposed to be easy. My wife was born in Canada, and she went thru the process to obtain her Citizenship legally. She did this because she believes in America. Illegal is just that, illegal. They will remain illegal until they, too, “go thru the process”.
            Otherwise, citizenship IS worthless and you can go ahead and pass them out with your happy meal.

          • James88

            Yes, your wife had it so difficult, I forget that the border towns in Canada are so dangerous that they have a travel warning issued against them by the Department of State. She went through the simple process of Petition (which as a spouse of a USC, the application will be adjudicated within 6 months or less), Consular Process, if the marriage was less than 2 years old she would have received a conditional green card for 2 years which she would have to file an I-751 Removal of Conditions three years before her expiration date, those 2 years count towards the three years needed in order to apply for Citizenship. During that whole time is near you, legal, and present without a fear of deportation. There was nothing difficult about her case.

          • MSG L

            So…have you done a background check on me or are you just making up what you want to believe. My Love became a Citizen before we were married and it was not done on the “short form” .
            Do you always go thru life just making stuff up to conform to your pathetic life. I am done with you.

          • James88

            Make stuff up?

            http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/act.html

            I do this for a living. I know what I am talking about, you don’t. The fact that I merely caught you is enough for me to comprehend your limited understanding of the immigration system. Especially when you use terms such as “short-form”. If your so-called “wife” came in on any other type of visa, it would only be a 5 year wait after receiving her green card in order to apply for Citizenship. So even if I was to run a background check it would not be on you since you are not the intending immigrant just the Petitioner. I am sorry that you ended up in a battle of wits that you were not prepared for.

  • Bob

    just check i.d.’s of all the protesters, and if they’re illegal, have them arrested and deport them. if all the GOP congressmen and senators do this, the illegals will be gone.

    • Jim

      Republicans are the ones that give them jobs so they can pay slave wages.

  • Marian P. Liveley

    Illegals come to America and take the jobs that American citizens need to support their families. The answer to the immigration problem was tried in AZ and succeeded. We pass two laws. (1) Any one hiring an illegal pays $1,000 penalty. (2) Any one hiring an illegal for the second time loses his/her business license. Then enforce those two laws. The illegals won’t be hired, and will deport themselves and not return. The illegals come here for the jobs. Then, Americans are hired to fill all those jobs, and the jobless rate goes down in the USA. Medical expenses goes down. Welfare costs goes down. Education costs goes down. Housing normalizes. Food stamp costs go down. Crime rates go way down. Prison costs go way down. American productivity goes way up! That would solve about 90% of the immigration problems. Great solution!!!

    • Jim

      You are correct. But then how would the Americans get away with paying slave wages? Mexicans are the new slaves.

      • Marian P. Liveley

        Mexican slave wages? If you add up all the costs for this “cheap labor” you will find it is very expensive, indeed. Welfare, food stamps, education, crime rate increases, prison cost increases, medical care increases, housing for illegals, etc, all add up to a hefty sum indeed. Employers could pay a living wage to their employees and still come out way ahead of the illegal “cheap labor”, because taxes could comfortably be cut to offset the difference. Another factor, with our open borders, terrorists are being welcomed into America, too. How many terrorist attacks can America afford? We need those open borders closed, NOW!!!

        • EmpressL

          Correct: It costs $12,000 a year to educate a child in the US. 13 years (KP-12) + $156,000.

          There are 6,000,000 children belonging to at least one illegal parent (8% of total population under 18) X $156,000=

          $936,000,000,000

    • EmpressL

      Some aren’t here for jobs and will NEVER see an employer.
      81% of illegals are Hispanic

      41% of native born Latinos believe that unauthorized immigrants come to the US to have children.

      http://www.pewhispanic.org/2010/10/28/iv-views-of-immigration-policy/

      53% of Hispanic women have illegitimate births
      http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/disapprove-of-single-mothers/

      Welfare use by Immigrant Households with Children. States where the immigrant households with children have the highest use rates are Arizona (62%) Texas, California and New York (61%) each and Pennsylvania(59%).The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined.
      http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/confirmed-majority-/of-illegal-immigrants-receive-government-welfare

      http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

      • Marian P. Liveley

        According to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, a USA citizen is under the laws of the USA. Illegals are not, and neither are their offspring; therefore their children are citizens of whatever country they came from. Since we have gone against the Constitution and made children of illegals – citizens, while their parents are not citizens, it creates even more problems. If the parents cannot get jobs here, they will return to the country they came from. They will,hopefully, take their children with them. The idea that the more children illegals have the more money they get from welfare is a very bad system. Welfare was never meant to be a way of life, it was designed to give people a hand-up, not a hand-out. One single illegal female in LA, CA had 23 illegal children so she could get more welfare. She can’t care for those children, so they are growing up in ghetto areas, not properly educated, with ghetto mentality. No wonder crime rates are soaring in LA. When illegals in AZ couldn’t get jobs, they deported themselves to Sonora, Mexico. The Governor of Sonora called the Governor of AZ, and told her to stop sending the illegals to Mexico, because Mexico didn’t want them. Most of them have only a first or second grade education, and can only do menial jobs. (These are jobs Americans who are starting out in the workforce need.)

        • Marian P. Liveley

          No plan will solve all of the problems of immigration, Each case is a bit different. I really think implementing the plan is a great place to start, Even if it solved only 80% or 90% of the problem, it would be worth it. Then, we could see where we stand, and find another plan or two to solve the rest of the problem. Amnesty is the absolute worst solution to the illegal problem.

  • Rob

    That’s right . . . . when you can’t argue your case successfully, resort to punishing and hurting people . . . aka the Chicago way.

    • James88

      When your argument falls on deaf ears because elections are more important, then punishing those that never even gave you the time to present your argument, deserve to deserve.

  • kirkcp731

    End the illegal immigration problem.

    I just started a petition on the White House petitions site, We the
    People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/lQ8sX

    Amend the 14th Amendment to require at least one legal immigrant or US citizen to give a child a birthright citizenship.

    The 14th Amendment of 1866 states:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

    This amendment was put forth during a reconstruction period after the Civil War and was to provide slaves the ability to claim their citizenship along with all other residents of the United States.

    The intent was not to allow pregnant foreigners to enter the country with the intent of giving birth to get a US citizenship for their child. A child who could later bring their parents into the country. See ABC News recent story on the tropical island of Saipan, which is a US territory.

    ABC News reported in December 2012, Chinese Women Pay to Give Birth at California Maternity Mansion.

    • James88

      A child born in this country cannot bring their parents into the United States until they are 21 years of age. The 14th Amendment is not a problem.

      • kirkcp731

        Hi James, I see that you have a military background, any chance that this child could be trained in China to be a spy?
        Why isn’t it a problem? It cheats the original intent of the law.
        We have 13 million illegals now, how many where you hoping for?

        • James88

          Yes sir, I would like you to present to me a time in American history when we ever had a Chinese terrorist attack.
          Chinese were truly the first immigrants to enter the United States through both legal and illegal avenues. They were the first form of cheap labor that we used to build railroads and such. Chinese immigration was so bad that we came up with the Chinese exclusion Act of 1882 (finally repealed in 1943). In 1906, the Immigration offices in San Francisco suffered a terrible earthquake that destroyed all birth certificate records. Afterwards anybody of Asian descent was able to claim citizenship which helped coin the name “paper-sons” or “sons on paper”.
          The point is, after over more than a decade and a half of Chinese immigration, there has been no instance in which terrorism at the hand of a Chinese born person has taken place. Further more, the argument of having a Chinese spy within the United States will most likely never be confirmed making it an argument that sets up anyone to fail since I cannot prove otherwise.
          Now, don’t mistake my support of the 14th Amendment as is, as support form illegal immigration. The majority of the 13 million illegal immigrants (I bet there is more) right now can be deported if we enact a process within reform that will weed out those that qualify and those that don’t with no formal appeal process.

          • EmpressL

            We don’t need reform.

            This is the law as it now stands:

            “Expedited Removal”: The removal of an alien who is inadmissible because the individual does not possess valid entry documents or is inadmissible for fraud or misrepresentation of material fact (INA § 235(b)(1)(B)(iii)). The alien may be removed without a hearing before an immigration court.” pg 2, Box 1, right side

            http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/immigration-statistics/enforcement_ar_2011.pdf

            If we don’t enforce this, what makes you think we will enforce anything else?

          • James88

            Expedited removal cannot be accomplished unless the illegal immigrant in question has been previously removed or is a danger to public safety or national security. We halt Expedited Removals all the time by evoking travel warnings, credible fear, or even hardship. Check INA Section 212. We are also able to appeal to the BIA at any time.

          • EmpressL

            The law is clear! “August 2004, expedited removal was expanded to aliens who are present without being admitted or paroled, are encountered by an immigration officer within 100 air miles of the U.S. southwest land border, and can not establish to the satisfaction of the immigration officer that they have been physically present in the United States continuously for the 14-day period immediately preceding the date of encounter.”

            “Failure to have valid documents has long been a ground for exclusion from the United States.”
            “expedited removal of arriving aliens” and deemed aliens who were
            in the United State without inspection to be arriving.16 H.R. 2202 also restructured the laws on deportation and exclusion into a single “removal” process.”

            “The law states that expedited removals are not subject to administrative appeals

          • James88

            You do know that Expedited Removals can only be done by Customs and Border Protection at their designated POEs against people COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES, right?

            “Expedited removal is the process by which a non-U.S. citizen can be denied entry and physically removed from a U.S. Port of Entry (“POE”) upon seeking admission to the United States.”

            “Can I Appeal an Order of Expedited Removal? The short answer is no – orders of expedited removal are not reviewable by any judge or court. There is no appeal process for such orders.
            It is possible, however, to submit a request for review to CBP directly, which is what our office has done in situations where we have determined that the expedited removal order was improperly issued. In such situations – where the immigration laws were improperly applied by the CBP officials at the POE – review by additional supervisory CBP officials has resulted in the order of expedited removal being vacated as if it was never issued.”

            The rest is left to the courts if an illegal immigrant has already been residing in the United States but commits significant criminal acts. Which, we can then, appeal.

            http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1228

            In case you want the, “Expedited Removal for Dummies” version:

            http://www.montaglaw.com/articles/articles_8.html

          • Marian P. Liveley

            Take away the jobs and illegals will deport themselves. If we deport them, they just return. If they deport themselves, they will stay deported. Much better system!

          • James88

            You will never be able to take away the jobs. Even if you force E-Verify, employers will always find a way to get cheaper labor. They will use the HB2 visas even more profusely. Either that or they will outsource. If you legalize them, then the competition for employment will be even.

      • EmpressL

        If a child is born in this country their mother will stay here illegally because they won’t separate them so the parent(s) don’t have to leave the country in the first place. That’s why they are called ANCHOR BABIES.

        Welfare use by Immigrant Households with Children. States where the immigrant households with children have the highest use rates are Arizona (62%) Texas, California and New York (61%) each and Pennsylvania(59%).The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined.

        http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/confirmed-majority-/of-illegal-immigrants-receive-government-welfare

    • EmpressL

      You clould look at it this way:

      “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. ”

      Illegals are not citizens and are not “subject to jurisdiction” WERE NOT BORN HERE and therefore do not fall within the guidelines of the 14th amendment. Neither do their dependents as they were not within JURISDICTION.

  • Ronald R. Johnson

    America is got Americans, not foreigners who want to break our laws and Rules and tell us what we must do and then speak their own language instead of English and then force their own countries and ways on us ,the he’ll with them they must adapt not us!

    • Jim

      You don’t speak English Bubba. You speak a mutated slang.

      • Ronald R. Johnson

        Couple of type o’ s jerk off but your wife mother daughter and girl friend love it and other things too !

        • Jim

          Let me guess . They call you sunny cause you’re so bright?

          • Ronald R. Johnson

            U can ask your mother wife daughter and girl friend about that since they Don’t seem to think very highly of you either. U better be careful before the cut U off completely!

  • Mike Kulpa

    How about we start sending INS officers to these rally’s to see how many are here legally? Seems to me they could round up tons of criminals id they attended one of these events.

    • James88

      You can’t, because INS hasn’t operated since 2003.

      • EmpressL

        And therein lies the problem!

        • James88

          Where? In the fact that INS has not operated since 2003 because it splintered of into USCIS, ICE, and CBP?

          • EmpressL

            How about we send the USCIS, ICE and CBP to the Rally???? What’s the big difference or is there NO difference?

          • James88

            USCIS’ directives are no to deport but to review cases and forward them to ICE. CBP’s directives are to enforce the law and protect the border within 25 miles of the United States. ICE is the only agency who can process illegal immigrants for deportation. While the Marshalls, FBI, and other Federal agencies can detain them if they are within their parameters of arrest, i.e. criminals, repeat criminals or terrorists. Even if they are detained these people will post bond and postpone their cases for the next 3 to 5 years.

          • EmpressL

            Ans none of them are enforcing anything. So why bother passing any more laws?

          • James88

            See, you miss the entire point of my posts. Our laws that are geared towards enforcement are broken because of the defacto amnesty that takes place before the actual deportation. All 13-15 million are not going to qualify under one system right? What we need to do is right after their interview with the Immigration Officer, they are either approved or denied. If denied they are placed on their way back to their country’s.

          • EmpressL

            James! I totally agree with you on this point. AND I learned a lot from you as I cut and pasted most of what you said for future reference. Thank YOU!

          • James88

            No problem, I am glad to have been of service. Feel free to direct any questions to me in the future.