Black residents reject Trader Joe’s because it would attract too many white people

Trader Joes opposition

Photo credit: Andrew Theen/The Oregonian

The Trader Joe’s grocery chain has withdrawn plans to build a store in the heart of a predominantly black neighborhood after a black leadership group fought the move.

The Portland Development Commission was set to give the grocer a large discount on property that had been vacant for years, pricing it at just over $500,000, down from an appraised value of $2.9 million, according to The Oregonian.

The Portland African American Leadership Forum sent a scathing letter in December to city leaders, saying the plan would price residents out of the area and the group“remains opposed to any development in North/Northeast Portland that does not primarily benefit the black community.”

Trader Joe’s would increase displacement of low-income residents and “increase the desirability of the neighborhood,” for “non-oppressed populations,” PAALF wrote.

“[This decision] reflects the city’s overall track record of implementing policies that serve to uproot, displace and disempower our most vulnerable community members,” the letter said.

Trader Joe’s bowed out amid the controversy.

“We run neighborhood stores, and our approach is simple: If a neighborhood does not want a Trader Joe’s, we understand, and we won’t open the store in question,” a company spokesperson said in a statement to The Oregonian.

But not everyone is happy about the outcome.

“There are no winners today,” Adam Milne, owner of Old Town Brewing Co., told The Oregonian. “Only missed tax revenue, lost jobs, less foot traffic, an empty lot and a boulevard still struggling to support its local small businesses.”

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Cheryl Carpenter Klimek has been a political consultant handling public affairs and PAC management for nearly 20 years. Cheryl can be reached by email at Cheryl@bizpacreview.com & on Twitter @CherylBPR

  • ¿ɟʇʍ

    Then they will complain that they don’t have access to grocery shopping because of the plight of their neighborhood.
    I am so tired and bored of the perpetually offended black people, and no longer walk on eggshells in fear of offending them because they are offended by EVERYTHING.

    • Douglas Howell

      Why should they care, most of them live off welfare anyways…

      • kerryberger

        Talk about making gross-generalizations about a whole community of people? Do you have any real evidence to back up your remarks or are you just being an ass about it?

        • Vincent W Simard

          ya you can look it up… EBT CITY lol….. sorry… and his gen was no worse then JERKS saying no to traderjoes…. SUCKS to have it SKAPPED right back huh… LOL nice now we can just say HEY i dont want THAT type of store here it might attract BLACK FOLKS and well we all see how well those hoods do dont we…. GOTTA LOVE IT

          • Montely Wilson

            Who wants to be around your kind anyway. No need to invite more ignorance. See enough for that already. More whites on wefare since the Freedmans Bureau. That is a fact. Nice racist epithet through!

          • lsb_11

            That is actually incorrect. Blks are 38% and whts are 38.6% of welfare by race. If you break it down by population, more blks are on welfare considering blks are only 14% of the total pop and whts are 72% of pop. Meaning mathematically blks are the highest of all races collecting welfare.

          • 1bonaventure

            I love when blacks walk right into that one. They listen to Al Sharpton who gives them the incorrect info on welfare.

          • livelol

            38% of a larger population is more not less than a smaller population

          • Anti-liberal

            He is saying 38% of people on welfare are Black and 38.6% of people on Welfare are white. The Black Population has a smaller percentage of overall population therefor making it a higher percentage of the black population are on welfare. You race baiter’s are so blind in your hatred for the white man you can’t even understand a simple explanation. isb_11 you have to talk slowly and not use large words. Liberal race baiters are a special kind of stupid.

          • Linda McDonald

            We still have MORE whites on welfare though and THAT IS THE POINT!!

          • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

            Thanks to BHO and the ACA.

          • pepjrp

            he say,,, yous welcome.

          • Choy Huey

            Aren’t you too old and too ugly for the hate?

          • Whitey

            And you ARE young and cool enough for the hate? Gotcha.

          • moodyjudi

            So says the one too ugly and ashamed to even post a picture! I bet your face is as ugly as your nasty comment.

          • Eric

            You whine about a nasty comment while you make one yourself. What a hypocrite!

          • Eric

            Arent YOU??

          • liberalloons

            She’s telling the truth dk smoker.

          • muslimmustgo

            And what do you look like chink chong choy!!??

          • Tony Anzalone

            No dip$hit, there have been more white people on food stamps than blacks for over 20 years.

          • HonestToAtee

            Most, if not all, of those whites on foodstamps are liberal Democrats scamming the system. I know a few and they were financially well to do business owners. They know the scam!

          • Dee Dee

            You “know a few” so therefore “most, if not all, of those whites on food stamps are liberal Democrats scamming the system?” That doesn’t even make sense, Mr. HonestToAtee. You sound like some of my old high school classmates who say “everyone” on welfare is scamming the system. Do some research. Over generalizing like that is neither correct nor intelligent.

          • HonestToAtee

            So if I personally witness the theft of our money and the fact that there is a scam of the system you still claim I need to do research? Okay thanks for contributing to big government bingo for the libtards!

          • Rayvyn007

            I love how they call liberals retarded and these right wing racists don’t know how to simply look up welfare statistics. Many get their facts from lying blogs and talk show hosts.

          • Mark G

            Liar! You are a yellow bellied liar.

          • Rayvyn007

            No most of the whites on food stamps are republicans and live in southern states. It’s a fact.

          • Donna Beard

            Only because there ARE more whites than blacks in America!! If you know enough Math to understand percentages, you could figure out what those above were saying.

          • Vance 4: 26

            Well, here is what I find interesting. Blacks have a higher unemployment percentage but whites have more on wel-fare. And they call us lazy…..indeed.

          • Thedocumentarian

            Actually, as a percentage of population, there are more black people on welfare.

          • Vance 4: 26

            Does it really matter? I mean, we are all Americans.

          • Thedocumentarian

            I agree. But you also acknowledged race in terms of unemployment. Also, you have to consider that different areas have different numbers for unemployment.

          • Artur Krejčík

            Im not the American and I see it from the side – it matters alot, black people allways cry about everything and look at themselves as a one COHERENT group . you do it yourself– while : they contribute the least to GDP, The most to the crime (even as a white-collars blacks tend to fraud more then other groups) and they score the lowest on education. I see it form the side and this is my two cents : You allways scream about racism, but all you do is crying about race… I think its time to shut up and start working on yourself and not against others. – others will then stop making comments on you.

          • Lowe

            stfu and focus on your own country. Did you stop to think that maybe racism and the history of racism in this country has something to do with the socio-economic conditions that many black people find themselves in? probably not

          • Artur Krejčík

            Well thats not the whole truth is it :) Blacks fraud more even when having a good jobs, do your homework and btw- look at your president now…

          • Loweezy Smith

            The topic of thji forum is the opening of a Trader Joe’s store in a black neighborhood, not the percentage of black or white on welfare/food stamps. Stay on the topic please.

          • Baloo Uriza

            This thread attracted Portland’s racist majority. You honestly think that rationality is going to come into play?

          • Poodleguy

            Bingo!!

          • Estella Cohen

            Thanks Donna. No wonder America consistently scores as lowest in math among industrialized countries. It’s basic percentages and the numbers have to be consistent.Good grief seems hatred even trumps basic math. (smile)

          • Vance 4: 26

            Now that’s true, blacks do make up a higher percentage on food stamps were whites make up a higher percentage on wel-fare.

          • GuateNY

            Blacks are 38% of welfare recipients while comprising only 13% of the national population. Whites are 39% of welfare recipients while making up over 70% of the national population. Therefore blacks are using welfare at a much high percentage relative to their population than whites. Your argument is flawed.

          • Vance 4: 26

            Well lets see, according to your “unvalidated” information that means 62% of blacks are not on welfare compared to 61% of whites. So that means whites are using welfare at a higher percentage, here is an example. 38% of 100 (100 reflecting the lower population of black people) is 38. 39% of 1000 (1000 representing the higher population of white people) is 390. So more whites are on welfare. Oh, one more thing. If you say the US population is 70% and African Americans is 13% that means that 17% of others. If you think the latino population in this country is only 17% you are fooling yourself.

          • matt summers

            Bro, you’re really making yourself look stupid. Your mock numbers and percentages aren’t even relevant to the argument. Your math “per capita” is way off and it doesn’t look good when you’re arguing for our race and you’re so far off on the basic math required to understand what the above are saying.

            These person’s “unvalidated facts” come from the United States Census Bureau. Look it up, you might learn something and actually see the true numbers.

          • petem

            if population is 1 million and blacks are 14% and whites 72%, blacks equal 140000 people, whites 720000. lets say 40 percent of blacks =64000. 40 % of whites =288000. That’s how math works for all you super intelligent white folk.

          • Poodleguy

            Apparently you are not very sharp when it comes to mathematics. The problem with your post is you are posing that 38% of blacks are on welfare & 38.2% of whites are. The truth of the matter is this: of all people on welfare represents 100%. Of that total of the welfare ‘pie’, 38% of them are black & 38.2% of them are white. It is not based on the whole of the population.
            That leaves 33.8% of the pie is received by “others”. Get it????

          • Grand Vizier

            I am really sorry, but ..
            There are millions of people on welfare, and 38% of them are black and 39% of them are white.
            However, if the blacks make up 13% of the population, and the white make up 70% of the population, that would mean that the blacks have five times as many people on welfare than whites, compared to their part of the population.

          • Poodleguy

            Go to the head of the class, GV!!

          • dickG

            I see you are a product of a fine Portland, Oregon school district!
            .
            Go back to school. Git ejukated.’

          • GuateNY

            I am not white, but anyway, what you are saying makes no sense at all.

          • Artur Krejčík

            Invalid.. There is a fix rate of unemployment in any society. And thats not bad or good, thats just the fact. ALl the fuzz here is about one thing : blacks have it higher then whites, which is bad only for one side of the two, but you are right, its bad for both considering the poor economy of the country

          • Poodleguy

            When 13% of the citizenry are 38% of the welfare recipients & say, 80% are white & they are 38.2%, that interprets to a fact that a much larger portion of the black community are on welfare than that of the white community…………..get it?

          • yvonne martinez

            Stupid fucks still dont get the math huh?

          • Rayvyn007

            No there are more blacks on welfare than whites and it’s only been that way a little while. But that’s not because of race, it’s because of poverty. These same idiots who lie and say most blacks are on welfare tend to think most blacks are criminals and steal. That means those same idiots will not hire blacks and then wonder why the poverty in the black community is so high.

          • Steve Rusakiewicz

            Another liberal who can’t do basic arithmetic

          • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

            Liberals went to outcome based education schools where they were taught that 1+1=5 and taught how to be insane.

          • FedUp

            Amen to that

          • Drifanwulf

            I thought it was 2×2=5. lol

          • Kibber_SF

            No that’s Reaganomics

          • neo rambo

            another stupid libtard remark. Reagan put people back to wark after we sent that jew hater back to Georgia

          • Jackie Bourg

            Loving you Rambo!

          • Tony Anzalone

            “Libtard”? What grade are you in?

          • Eric

            What grade are YOU in, hater?

          • LittleRoot_48

            In what grade are those who constantly use the term “tea baggers” and “baggers” to refer to conservatives?

          • Poodleguy

            Right, LittleRoot!! It is a vulgar & insulting epithet with a XXX rating!! Anyone who would call me that to my face would end up on the ground spitting teeth & blood!! Only the lowest of the low commie/fag/fascist/liberal punks utter such a filthy insult…..

          • Rodney Ray

            STFU you stupid inbred wannabe internet tough guy.

          • Poodleguy

            Do you want to shut me up, you poster child for the combination of ignorance & arrogance? I am no tough guy but I had 9 yrs of service in the US Army & I am an expert long range shooter, garnered from 27 yrs of Antelope hunting in Wyoming. You are nothing but a loudmouthed simpleton as well as a confirmed racist. Now YOU can STFU……………………

          • Rodney Ray

            Waaa, waaa, waaa STFU moron.

          • Poodleguy

            You have become a boring boor & a waste of time…….adios, motherphuquer!

          • Rodney Ray

            In case you couldn’t tell, I have been bored with your dumbass for quite some time. So again, waaa, waaa, waaa STFU wannabe internet tough guy with no life other than trolling forums and making a complete fool of yourself. Have a nice day loser.

          • Poodleguy

            And here we have a fool who thinks if he gets the last word he wins the argument. The response by the vast majority of the posters is to give you nothing but thumbs down & that throws the bright light of truth upon your ignorance……….

          • Monica Reuland

            You are ahead by a long shot. I’m keeping up with the votes! Good job;)

          • Poodleguy

            Thank you, Monica! You just can’t defeat true logic…………..

          • adcbeast

            Poodle DOOOSH …. Any civilian that threatens to use their military training on civilians has broken the law ..

          • Poodleguy

            Please state the law you are referring to. It is not only non existent, it is a ridiculous comment………..

          • adcbeast

            BULL#$#$ …. You are a pansy

          • Poodleguy

            You phuque with this old man, you will find yourself in the pansy position. Is that the best you can do, commie/fag/liberal dunce???

          • adcbeast

            Is that the best you got Limp D…..?

          • Poodleguy

            So where the hell have you been Tony, living in a lead mine?? “Libtard” has been used on these sites for as long as they have been around. Slang has it’s own grammatical license, in case you weren’t aware………………..

          • adcbeast

            Poodle DOOOSH .. You have a pea for a brain

          • Poodleguy

            Any idiot who thinks the obamaliar is anything but a corrupt lawbreaking POS surely has an IQ starting with a decimal point…………..

          • adcbeast

            Poodle DOOOSH …

            JD Georgetown ..

            NEXT !!!

          • Rodney Ray

            See if you can understand reality instead of living your life in a fantasy world like most retarded repugnicans.

            http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/19510-the-abject-failure-of-reaganomics

          • Estella Cohen

            Yep we’re all a “warkin’” just fine for lower wages than our parents got and paying back colleges big money that were once next to free. Thanks again to Reagan. The rich mans president and the poor white mans fool.

          • Jon Hawk

            No that would be Obamanomics..something you seem to know alot about.

          • Kibber_SF

            wannabe troll logic…comrade I am not an Obama fan…

          • fedup

            And Reagonomics worked. It would sure be nice to see that prosperity again.

          • jungledog

            Check your facts. Reagan started with Carter’s 2.7% of GDP defect and bumped it up to 4.2%, his average for both terms. And policies started in the Reagan era have led to the worst income gap between the elite and working class since the Gilded Age.

          • Rodney Ray

            Reagonomics is the reason there is such a huge gap between the cost of living and living wages. Yeah it worked alright. Reagan took care of his rich friends at the expense of the middle and lower class. Fuk Ronny “Alzheimers” Reagan.

          • feduptohere

            Whatever about your political leaning, i would advise you don’t mock victims of Alzheimers. According to statistics you could be next. Remember what was said here, should your memory start to ebb.

          • Rodney Ray

            Not mocking victims of Alzheimers, I’m mocking Ronald Reagan. Get a clue before you speak.

          • Michael

            you’re an absolute f—–g idiot. Under Reagan the size of our grew at the greatest peacetime rate in the history of the world, yeah, so what the debt to gdp went up 2%, the economy experience exponential growth, learn your economic facts before you come on here and prove you don’t know s–t. I remember the “misery index” and the malaise we were in under Carter, the NEXT to worst president EVER!

          • Rodney Ray

            No, you are the fuking moron. Which is usually the case with partisan conservative idiots such as yourself. Do some research on your hero before you run your mouth. You might find some interesting facts about the dumbass that shows just how bad he was. Funny thing about Repugnicans, they all think Reagan was the best ever, but he was actually one of the worst, and is the biggest reason this country is in shambles. Carter wasn’t the greatest, but he has been surpassed as the worst ever by Dumbya Bush and Barry Oduma. So take your own advice and learn some facts before you run your mouth and make yourself look like an idiot worse than you already have dipwad.

          • Michael

            More hyperbole, no substance, compare GDP in 1979 and 1989, typical you can’t back up one thing you assert. Debt as a ratio to GDP was at a very manageable level under the whole Reagan/Bush 1 admin, YOU look it up. It exploded later, the tax rates came down for everyone, which the shouldn’t be above 25% for ANYBODY, but look at where we’re at now. No, I can’t see how even a mush brain dips–t like yourself can see an economy which expanded to create more wealth across more economic classes than ever before could say the idiotic stuff above, but you still haven’t backed it up with one solid statistic. Oh, and just as a kicker, when you do find something, make sure you research it to the root, because a lot of the economic reality that DIDN’T work can be laid at the feet of the congress he had to govern against–DEMOTARDS.

          • Michael

            btw..you don’t know I’m a “partisan conservative” a label you throw around like a curse, what should be hung around the neck of anyone who voted this democrat scum in office is an Albatross of epic proportion, it would be shown to be the crime wave it is if not for the willing accomplices in the media. It should be soundly remembered by everyone, the Republicans stood against Obumacare one and all, when it continues to be the train wreck it already is keep this in mind, folks.

          • Rodney Ray

            Being a Conservative or a Liberal isn’t the issue. The issue is the thought process of ignorant Partisan Political dumbasses such as yourself. And by the way, I’m not a Repugnican or a Dumbocrat, I’m a Libertarian.

          • Poodleguy

            How many offices do Libertarians hold in America, hmmmmm? 3rd party advocates are just not connected to reality. You are just more proof of that………………..

          • Rodney Ray

            And you are proof that stupidity runs rampant in the Repugnicans. Moron.

          • Poodleguy

            Then I must be the only ‘moron’ with an IQ of 148 & an AFQT score of 158. In the event you haven’t knowledge of AFQT, it is the Armed Forces Qualification Test. You really need professional help, little man w/big anger problems………..

          • adcbeast

            You are an IDIOT

          • Poodleguy

            I must be the only idiot with an IQ of 148, troll……………

          • Alemeyehu Elias

            that you are you…that you are…just cause you can take a test doesn’t show your actual intelligence…obviously you are as simple as the idiots who started this pointless feed…just shut your fat racist mouth up before you say something else to show how much of a bigot you are…oh wait, to late for that…haha

          • Poodleguy

            And here we have a typical intellectually challenged liberal who hasn’t a rational thought or the ability to express itself, so it resorts to the old liberal playbook page where insults are the attempt to win the debate. Sorry, you have failed as usual.

          • Kibber_SF

            The reason there are not more legislators from other parties is because the “great two” changed the donation laws to take away any funding the other parties can get if they don’t get 5% of the national vote…crooked politices from BOTH of the “great two”…just because you have a”high” IQ doesn’t mean you have ANY “common” sense or that you know how to use your intelligence efficiently…

          • Rodney Ray

            A typical dumbass response from a dumbass.

          • Rodney Ray

            Speaking of Reagan himself, Donald Regan, the President’s former Secretary of the Treasury, and later Chief of Staff, criticized him for his supposed lack of understanding of economics:
            Yeah Reagan was an economic Genuis, lmao.

          • Rodney Ray

            10 facts about Reagan the Repugnicans like to keep quiet about.
            http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/

          • Thedocumentarian

            Why is it that tax rates were above 65% during Eisenhower and the unemployment rate stayed down and debt reduced? Hmm…?

          • Kibber_SF

            So where are YOUR links to back up this misguided bulls..T…Reagan was a joke

          • Poodleguy

            Apparently there are a whole bunch of people posting on this site who are far superior to you in intelligence as well as truth…………….Go play in the traffic, dolt!

          • Rodney Ray

            Retarded Troll.

          • Poodleguy

            Truer words have never been spoken! Ronald Wilson Reagan was the greatest president in my lifetime of now 78 yrs & 2nd only to Abraham Lincoln, our 1st Republican president who saved the Union!!

          • Rodney Ray

            Reagan was good for you retards who don’t know any better, and Lincoln was an idiot. Lincoln was a typical Repugnican, can’t get what I want, I’ll just start a war under false pretenses. Great President, started the Civil War that made American families fight and kill each other over Slavery and to take control of the South. But at the same time we were trying to eradicate the Native American Indians so we could take over the rest of their land. Try researching true history, not the lies told in our fake history books.

          • Poodleguy

            Your inane insults are wasted on a man who lived thru the history of Pres. Reagan. Fact: the Civil War was not fought over slavery, it was an ancillary part. The Civil War was fought over state’s rights, you know like the one’s the obamaliar & his goon Holder violate on a daily basis. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. After reading several of your rants, you are definitely a candidate for anger management @ the least & serious mental treatment @ the most………..

          • adcbeast

            Poodle DOOOSH …. WRONG … The Civil War was fought over slavery … ..

            You need a mental health evaluation

          • Poodleguy

            Study the history of the Civil War & what led up to it. You will probably remain in denial but that just doesn’t change history. Your inane attempts @ insults have failed. You are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. I see you have a photo of your hero, the O Hole…….that explains your erroneous position…………

          • adcbeast

            Poodle DOOOSH …

            BA History .. JD Georgetown ..

            The Civil War was about SLAVERY and ECONOMICS … the southern states committed treason to maintain their economies .. they tried to secede to keep their cost advantage on producing various products … even if that meant enslaving human beings … S bags

            Lincoln didn’t have the Stones to finish the job and kill every last one of the confederacy

          • Poodleguy

            Arguing with an idiot is like wrestling with a pig…….you both get dirty & only the pig – that’s you, acdc – enjoys it.

          • adcbeast

            PoodleDOOOSH …

            JD Georgetown …

            NEXT !!

          • Kibber_SF

            He should have recieved an academy awrd for his performance as president…he sure has all you fools fooled

          • Poodleguy

            Look in the mirror & see the biggest fool of all, you sorry gob of excrement….

          • Kibber_SF

            I would expect NOTHING better from you since you seem to suffer from diminished capacity also…Nasty, nasty, you make me cry, boo hoo hoo…hahaha you troll

          • Poodleguy

            Apparently you have the intelligence of a dead horse, wanker…………….

          • Kibber_SF

            Have your mommy change your diapers and wipe your nose….sniff, sniff

          • Poodleguy

            Since my mother died in 1995, do you want to come try to ‘change my diaper’, you pile of horse$hit with semen breath??? You really don’t know who you are phuquing with, imbecile……………..

          • Kibber_SF

            The only reason you think you are special is because you rode in a “special” bus to school. Get over yourself, you are NOT all that and oh my you have me shaking…my coque in your mouth that is!!!

          • Poodleguy

            Then why don’t you bring your sorry a$$ to Black Canyon City, Az & find out for yourself, brave one???? You won’t need a round trip ticket……………..

          • Kibber_SF

            climb back under your rock poodleboy

          • Poodleguy

            You have become a boorish bore……..Adios, fool……………

          • Alemeyehu Elias

            wow, i never thought you could make yourself sound dumber…and then you go ahead and prove me wrong…so happy to hear you have lived 78 years…it only means that we won’t have to deal with your stupidity much longer cause your and ever other idiot from your generation dumb enough to believe what you do will be gone from this life and we will be able to live a better life without your stupidity…sadly you have probably trained your children to be as stupid as you so we still have another generation to wait…however if there is a divine source you never had kids…

          • Poodleguy

            Take your inane comments & shove them where the sun never shines! Seems to me I have observed national polls over the last several yrs & they have all basically agreed with my position. I suppose you believe the Kenyan Kid, aka O Hole is numero uno. If so, that would definitely reveal your lack of intelligence……………

          • Rodney Ray
          • Sean C. Eastman

            Prosperity under Reagan? Really? What about the high interest rates, firing of union Air Traffic Controllers, construction blitz? Like my grandmother used to say, “Reagan was a good actor.” He was disseminating political propaganda in his earlier days. I do applaud him for his strong stance against communism and the Soviet Union though.

          • HonestToAtee

            Are you really that stupid? Reagan came in at the darkest hour, Carter had completely paralyzed this Country and created a feeling of darkness and despair. Then Reagan comes in and by the late 80′s things started to swing back, our National identity of “can do” was restored and the Soviet Union fell. Gasoline was rationed under Carter, he was behind bringing down the Shah of Iran and bringing in the Terrorist regime of the Ayatollah which today is the source for most of the Terrorist problems in the world.
            You Dems are really a drag!

          • Gradivus

            Yes, they really are that stupid. And it’s purposely done. It’s called “invincible ignorance” – the inability to educate someone because they reject hearing anything different from what they already believe. These people are well-trained to not watch any television station, or read any newspaper, that might give them an opinion or report a story that might tend to cast doubt on their partisan beliefs. They’re truly tools of their ideological masters in the leftist/progressive Democrat party. They’ve got nothing but invective, ad hominem attacks and other logical fallacies, and mean-spirited emotionalism to go on, since they cannot see the facts and cannot use reason or logic to apply them.

          • dickG

            They are of the species “Liberal-us Progress-EVIL-us” and their followers are the “Sheeple People”/.
            .
            Their favorite drink is Kool-Aid.
            .

          • adcbeast

            Dick DOOOSH …. Yet it is the conservatives who are drinking the Koolaid like a Jim Jones devotee

          • pat ange

            Sad thing is, compared to Obama, Carter looks like a genius in all areas. Carter was not an evil man, he just was unqualified for the job. The results were BAD for America. If you took all the faults of every US past presldents. and found one man who had them all; that man would be far superior to obama as a president. Obama is a hate-monger & a racist. He hates everyone who not muslim. The rest of his followers, they are too dumbed-down to realize what he is doing. When they wake up it will be too latet. He won’t even explain, because he won’t need them any more.

          • adcbeast

            Dishonest DOOOSH … Reagan tripled the national debt to get the economy going ..

            Carter had avoided that because he believe adding to the national debt for a short term economic crisis was wrong ..

          • Poodleguy

            So we now hear from a union thug again!! The firing of PATCO members was a result of their violation of law, a law prohibiting a strike or work slow down for ANY gov’t controlled public service union engaged in public safety & service. Police, firemen, postal workers & PATCO come under the statutes & contracts prohibiting strikes. PATCO violated the law, Reagan gave them the opportunity to return to work or be fired……….they didn’t & he did! There should be no such thing as unions in the public sector, PERIOD>>>>>>>>>>!

          • Dee Dee

            Someone needs to do some research!!! Duh.

          • Poodleguy

            Reaganomics worked & will work again when employed!! JFK was actually the 1st supply side president………..do a little research before opening your pie hole & exhibiting your ignorance, please………….

          • Kibber_SF

            Perhaps you should take some of your own advice…”Supply side economics” wasn’t even a term until the mid 70′s. JFK died in 1963 just in case you didn’t know…(and by looking at what you said you don’t know anything of interest to anyone)

          • Poodleguy

            I didn’t state JFK called it ‘supply side economics’, it just fits the process, regardless of when or who hung that title on it! I was in the US Army, stationed @ Ft Riley, Ks the day Kennedy was assassinated. Go away with your sophomoric insults, they have no effect on me coming from someone who apparently has been educated far beyond his intelligence………..

          • Kibber_SF

            So trying to force businesses like the steel industry to lower it’s prices is part of “supply side” economics??? Sounds like it goes in the face of that theory…and who cares where you were when he as killed…I was alive then also, so what? and I never appologize for being smarter or better educated than another person, I just try and pass on technics taught to me on how to find information

          • Estella Cohen

            It equals 5 and lot more if you know an American banker,are white and want a loan ASAP. LOL.

          • HonestToAtee

            Communist Core reeducation system.

          • Tony Anzalone

            I’m a teacher and while common core is a pain in the as$, labeling it Communist core is stupid and shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

          • HonestToAtee

            I know enough to say that you are a Union Member and your Union is based on Communist principals. Communist Core is designed to create a whole generation of Activists that support everything harmful to western culture and individualistic thought. I know all I need to know that this garbage was designed by Globalists intent on controlling the American people. Why else is Obama entering pre school and after schooll dinners also? If you defend Communist Core then you are one of them.

          • Sean C. Eastman

            Union labor built America, during the Industrial Revolution.

          • HonestToAtee

            You didn’t build that! The Unions are now nothing more than a political action group for leftists and Communists! I have seen enough proof on all of the Union websites to know that you are all global Communists! “Workers of the world unite” with a Commie fist in the air!
            You guys suck!

          • Sean C. Eastman

            Unions are political action groups. We are not all global communists. We are skilled tradesmen, laborers, truck drivers, security officers, etc. Do some more research, before you start throwing out divisive labels, that are of no benefit to the debate. Big businesses that pay their workers poverty and non livable wages are the real communists.

          • Poodleguy

            And socialist liberal demonrats are destroying it!! Unions were needed then but have turned into very corrupt organizations……………private sector unions keep losing members year after year. Only the public, read “Government” unions have grown & to our detriment!!

          • pat ange

            That is not what teachers unions are about. Do you think teachers unions who fight to keep teaching jobs for ; pedophiles child rapist &those who watch porn during class, among other things, are a good thing? Unions were great years ago when needed. Now they are corupt & unreasonble . I guess you think felons should continue to be paid while in prison too? This crap is disgusting.

          • Dee Dee

            And unions got you your 40 hour week, vacation time, sick leave, banished child labor. Stop watching FAUX NOISE and educate yourself through real research.

          • HonestToAtee

            I have, and thank God so have many others and we now know who and what you are. Communists.

          • Poodleguy

            Wassamatter DD, can’t handle the truth?? You sure as hell aren’t getting it from the socialist lame stream media!!!

          • Josh Corrington

            common core is designed to put the brakes on gifted children, who would otherwise grow up to be competitive to the elite, and uncontrollable by government.. and pretty much the anti liberal.

          • Derek Davis

            And now we know why our young generation has so little hope.

          • Poodleguy

            Your self identification as a teacher explains it all!!! Academia is chock full of liberal retards who can’t do, so they teach & are the most socialist of all unions!!

          • James Eaton

            The best-known and most far-reaching standards-based education law in the U.S. is the No Child Left Behind Act

            “NoMoreMarxism” what a turd.

          • Jon Hawk

            Look in the mirror

          • LittleRoot_48

            I am a retired kindergarten teacher and a conservative AND I was not a member of the teacher’s union (right to work state). I was against the No Child Left Behind Act and Common Core is no better.

          • Dee Dee

            THAT worked out really well, didn’t it? :P

          • pepjrp

            But she gradjeated the 6th grade. What more you want?

          • Wiley Brooks-Martin

            Can you please show us the calculation? Teach us.

          • Howard Lee

            Don’t you know that Ebonics does not include the 3Rs. Gubmint skuls just teach recess and how to get lunch and stuf free.

          • Tony Anzalone

            Racist

          • LittleRoot_48

            No more so than the blacks who kept Trader Joe’s out simply because it would bring in white people.

          • LittleRoot_48

            We had a friend whose wife taught school right about the time they integrated the schools. She had never taught black students before and was very concerned that so many of them did not know how to read (this was a 3rd grade class) so she asked one of the girls what they did in her previous all-black school. The little girl told her the teacher would ask them if they wanted to learn to read or go out on the playground. Guess what they chose? This is a true story.

          • Alemeyehu Elias

            i believe your the idiot who can’t do math…in what ass backwards redneck stupidity is 38 larger than 38.6…

          • Derek Davis

            I see some ppl missed out on learning fractions and percentages

          • lestref

            And grammar, to boot. Should be you’re. Not your. Idiot.

          • Fatties after

            You need to capitalize the I (start of a sentence) you are looking for “you’re”. The end of your run on sentence doesn’t make grammatical sense. Also, your math comprehension is lacking as well. 38.6 will always be larger than 38. However these are percentages. 38.6 percent of 12.5 (12.5 million is the approx number of people on welfare) million is 4,825,000 people (white) amd 38 percent of it is 4,750,000 (black). There are approx 41,400,000 black folks in America. This means that more than one in ten is on welfare. There are approx 246,480,000 white people in america. Which would mean that about one in 51 white people are on welfare. Otherwise known as five times less whites or five times more black folks.

          • Dan Trovic

            ‘White people’. ‘black folks’. Oh, and you forgot two commas and two other punctuation marks. ‘Also’ and ‘as well’ makes that sentence redundant, AKA ‘doesn’t make grammatical sense’. When you read the grammar and comprehensiveness of the comment you are defending, you failed to mention the typos and lack of clarity about statistics. Feel free to rip into whomever you please, just don’t make an idiot of yourself doing so.

          • LittleRoot_48

            You don’t get it either.

          • Dan Trovic

            Clearly, neither do you. Read a little closer.

          • LittleRoot_48

            Now you’re mixing math comprehension with reading comprehension and grammar. He will never be able to keep up, but you make an excellent point.

          • amy

            I’m definitely not a racist as my daughter is mixed and my grandson is black. With that said, they’re not teaching ANY student black or white jack crap in school so I wouldn’t expect to get through to ANYONE under 30 on here unless they were home schooled or their parents were involved, ACTIVELY involved, to instill sense, education, and values. My children will not set one foot in a public school. It’s been explained several times how to calculate the percentages but they’re never going to get it. Oh, and grammar…lost cause! They don’t even teach cursive and my nieces teacher had the nerve to say “spelling isn’t that important because it’s more keystrokes”

          • Hey Mr Fantasy

            Sorry about your miscegenation. Your children will hate you and not identify with you because they are not white. You destroyed your lineage and I’m sure you think that’s just cool but it’s sad and I feel deeply sorry for you. Did you know that you are closer genetically to any random white person than you are to your own daughter and grandson?

          • LittleRoot_48

            I told lsb_11 it would be over the head of people like you. Thanks for making my point.

          • dickG

            And there folks, you have it all wrapped up in a nutshell!
            .
            How could it be expressed more eloquently!
            .Or concisely!

          • Josef Roesler

            that is only because there are more white people, are you that stupid, you really do not understand what per capita means?

          • Corpseman57

            Yes, these trolls ARE that stupid.

          • pepjrp

            No she doesn’t. She just knows that she is a proud white-self-loather!!!

          • Dencal26

            No the number of whites and blacks on welfare is almost the same. Even though Blacks are just 13% of the population

          • rfrichey

            Ok, let’s say there’s 100 (100%) people in this field and 13 are black, that would be 13%. Now, the remainder is non black, that would be 87 people or 87%. Now if you gave 38 (38%) of those non blacks a dollar that would leave 49 (49%) non blacks who did not get a dollar. Now out of that original 100 people 38 (38%) non black got a dollar and 49 (49%) got nothing. Now we march those 49 non receivers and the 38 receivers (total 87) off to another field we would only have 13 people (blacks) left. Now how are you going to give 38 blacks a dollar when there’s only 13 there? This comes out to almost a 3 to 1 ratio per capita. This is about as elementary as I can put this.

          • Bobloblaw67

            Your math is wrong. It isn’t 38% of whites on welfare. It’s 38% of those on welfare are white. In raw numberes, there are an equal number of whites and blacks on welfare. Per capita this means blacks are roughly 5 times more likely to be on welfare.

          • moodyjudi

            And are these ‘white’ people Caucasian, or are they latino?

          • pat ange

            Duh, 38%+38%=70% THAT LEAVES 30% FOR OTHERS Duh!!!!!

          • moodyjudi

            Oh really? Where did YOU learn math? Where I went to school, 38 + 38 = 76, and 100-76=24. And btw, I checked. Hispanics are counted as white==BURN!!!

          • pat ange

            excuse me, I was gagging on all this crap. correction noted. where did you CHECK, obamas pants

          • rfrichey

            That’s what I said.

          • livelol

            Blacks were also 100% more likely to be slaves and victims of Jim Crow

          • Bill Durgan

            WERE….what 150 years ago, by the way many white folks have been slaves over the ages. People are talking about today/now…and you typical people are crying about HISTORY, get over it….move on for a change.

          • Dorothy

            Jim Crow laws were not about slavery but segregation. Jim Crow laws ended less than 50 years ago, there are many people still alive today that grew up with and were affected by these laws first hand. Would you tell a Jew that survived the holocaust to “get over it” and “move on for a change?”. Segregation and racism is not history it is still evident today.

          • amy

            Life is what you make it. Yes, racism is still very much evident today but you can’t say it’s whites that are the racist anymore! Having a mixed child I was victim to more racism from blacks and that was 28 years ago. It’s even worse now.Surely you don’t think it was only the black population that got obummer elected do you? We WERE moving forward until race baiters and this hellish administration came to be! This entitlement attitude, no one wanting to work hard to achieve their own, I’d rather take yours mentality is killing America. Oh, and my grandfather was from Cologne Germany and a survivor. He never once played that card so don’t even go there unless you know any jews complaining! They don’t.

          • Hey Mr Fantasy

            Oh you’re a Jew! OK then, no problem! I wholeheartedly support your destruction of your genetics through race mixing. Yay!

          • livelol

            150 years ago? Jim Crow was 45 years ago!! I am talking about today too. No one is crying about history just feeding it to you….with a spoon to assist with the digestion. Your talking about who receives more assistance without looking at historical reference attempts to negate that those people with the historical advantage should not be in need of any assistance at all.

            If it is determined that the recently oppressed should not be in receipt of any assistance, it should go without saying the most historically advantaged should absolutely not be in receipt of any assistance. Consistency is a good thing.

          • Dencal26

            Because the total field is not 100% of the population as you are alleging. The total field of those receiving welfare is different and of those receiving welfare 38% are black and 38% are white.

          • Dencal26

            Let’s use real numbers . Most recent numbers are 12,800,000 are on welfare in total. 38% of those are black and 38% are white. 4,846,000 from each race even though 70% of America is white and 13% Black.

          • rfrichey

            Thank you, but some still won’t get it.

          • Guest

            this is an impossibility..we have already established 38% of recipients are black and 38.6% are white….check your figures

          • Dencal26

            My figures are accurate . 38% of both

          • livelol

            The bill is what is important…the group taking .6% more of the 12,800,0000 are what?

          • Dencal26

            .6% is meaningless in the scope of things

          • livelol

            Nah, not really…when you are speaking of a population that have benefitted from an advantage over other groups historically.

          • Fatties after

            Poor whites have historically been at a disadvantage as well. My irish ancestors even shared the distinction of being called the N word. No one has ever given a toot about the poor of any race. Once we can get past all the old reasons for us to be divided and realize that the rich gain from our division and off of our labor we will be better off.

          • livelol

            That’s not readily admitted Fatties, i appreciate you and couldn’t agree with you more. It’s those who think themselves to be “special” because they were duped into believing that they were superior and believing blaming poor working class people will gain them entry into the 1% that sickens me. If your stomach is touching your back from hunger, the N word won’t fill your belly…wake up!

          • Fatties after

            One in 9.5 black folks are on welfare. One in 51 whites are on welfare. Sometimes it helps to look at it differently. There are just over 40 million black folks in America and just over 240 million white folks.

          • livelol

            With your historical advantage, this conversation should not be taking place.

          • FedUp

            Not true

          • Sharon

            You have a problem comprehending don’t you?

          • Abagail Spencer

            The white people on welfare are the working poor, you don’t see them dealing drugs in the ghettoes or gangbanging.

          • Matthew Johnson

            This is probably the most ignorant statement in the whole thread. Congratulations.

          • neo rambo

            ignorant or true?

          • Mr. Diesel

            Ignorant. Where did Phiilip Seymour Hoffman get his heroin? He didn’t go to the “ghetto.” White drug dealers have developed a sophisticated network to keep drugs pouring into this country in increasingly larger amounts. Because of the hunger for drugs both pharmaceutical and recreational from white America you can rest assured that the so called “drug war” will never end.

          • neo rambo

            i am certain that when you say white that you are talking about the illegal brown dealers from the south and please told call them white

          • Kibber_SF

            Hispanics are considered “white” even though they are “Hispanic” by race…

          • Jon Hawk

            Then they are not White..they are Hispanic

          • Kibber_SF

            Ok moron, genetically Hispanics are considered “white” and Latino’s are considered “native American” but I don’t expect you to know that…it takes an education (that’s “smarts” to you) to be able to properly disseminate information

          • enosfolly

            You are only half right. Everyone here needs to study anthropology a bit more than making such statements. So called native Americans are from Asia. I have never heard latinos called native American. Latinos is simply a slang expression of people that speak a Spanish language or dialect.

          • Kibber_SF

            So the US census uses “slang” as a counter now??? and native Americans may have come from Polynesia… depends on which researcher you are talking to, I actually studied cultural anthropology as a minor

          • Crystal Car

            Yeah and that question ” Are you Hispanic or of Hispanic descent” on the college and job applications is really only asking if your white.

          • fedup

            While we are at it,why is it important to know if you are Hispanic or not.
            I thought we were aiming for a colorblind society the would judge people on their character.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            A) no one came here as american [north, central, or south american] and we all speak euroopean languages. B) Cinco de mayo is not mexican independence day.

          • wakethesheeple

            See comments on immigrants written by then former President Theodore Roosevelt on January 3rd, 1919 – three days before his death: http://tinyurl.com/lvrqdl9

          • Dorothy

            Tell that to the Natives from whom the land was stolen

          • Will Workforf Ood

            No crystal it’s asking if your are ethnically hispanic. It is not a question of race it is a question of culture. Look up the word ‘hispanic.’

          • Crystal Car

            Well that is not very PC. I am sure if you ask a Hispanic if they are white they will say no I am Hispanic. Why do we even have different race categories? Shouldn’t we all qualify as members of the human race? Besides if you read up the organization states they never had a problem with Trader Joe’s their problem was with the failed promises of politicians. Unfortunately they may have blown a great opportunity for this community, and many in the neighborhood are upset with them. My question is if you want help for your community, if you want to better the area why not meet with Trader Joe’s execs and discuss how they could help the community besides with just jobs.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            One more time.. hispanic is not a race or a color it is an ethnicity. The US Census finds that more than 50% of hispanics self identify as white. Furthermore -we are talking about MY neighborhood not many people are up in arms over this deal and it’s not a black neighborhood. It’s a very white mixed neighborhood. You managed to read what PPALF actually stated about this deal so i would imagine you that you know they proposed a deal for what their communities wants and needs aside from a grocer gettin a 2.4 million dollar discount.

            http://aalfnw.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/PAALF-Statement-TJMajestic_02-05-141.pdf

          • livelol

            Now it is, but prior to the determination that hispanics would be the majority in a few years, they were counted separately in the census…go figure ;)

          • Crystal Car

            I read through this, my question is this: Instead of blocking trader Joe’s which all in all is a wholesome and good company, why not talk with the execs there. Also I understand that Hispanic is not a race however I want to know why not? I mean if we are all to be categorized why are they thrown into the white category? Personally I think we should get rid of categorization. I saw in the letter they want all of the community, from all ethnic backgrounds to come together to make a decision. But again Trader Joe’s would bring jobs. Affordable housing adjacent to would be fantastic. Although I am certain Trader Joe’s would not build it above their store. Trader Joe’s would have worked with the group but the group states they are saddened they didn’t speak to them directly: Why didn’t the group go to Trader Joe’s directly and talk with them before putting them on blast. Making it seem as if they were strong arming their way in. Trader Joe’s is not going to want to move in now with all of the bad publicity. I think the community leaders were trying to get jobs and economic growth into the area. I think this article (the one we are commenting on) is half the problem. I mean they never said they didn’t want white people there, they said they didn’t want to be displaced didn’t want to be forced out of their community because of higher prices. This article is just annoying. Thank you for sharing the letter.

          • Fatties after

            Hispanics self identify as white fairly often. There is also a check box for black Hispanic ect. This is because Hispanic is not a race..it’s a culture. There is no color that is Hispanic. It comes from a language and culture that originated in Spain and Portugal. Since the Spanish spread and conquered as much of not more than the English they left an indelible mark on the people’s they controlled. A lot of them are quite proud of their heritage and this is why they choose Hispanic (and then if desired black/white). You ask why Hispanic is default white. Well this is because the term originates in Europe.

            If community leaders wanted jobs in their neighborhood they wouldn’t protest a store opening. Trader joes isn’t some whites only diamond and caviar shop. They sell a hell of a lot of cheaply priced delicious foods. Yes they carry some unusual items but that’s great. I think if you get to the root of it the community protested this store for racial reasons sadly. You can’t complain about food deserts and be against grocery stores. What do they want some super bargain basement store with half rotten food and stale boxed goods? I can understand being against gentrification of an area. When that is being used to force “undesirable” people out of homes they’ve lived in for decades. Trader joes moving in is not gentrification.

          • Crystal Car

            I agree with you 100 percent. It would have been good for the community. I don’t see Trader Joe’s moving in now because it is publicized the group didn’t want them there and TJ’s is all about the community.

          • Hey Mr Fantasy

            Only a deluded fool believes that “we’re one race..the HYOOOMAN race” idiocy. You ask any non-white person if they believe that, they will laugh in your stupid face. Everyone else knows about tribal loyalty, racial pride, etc, but deracinated, foolish whites. I can tell you have zero experience with real world minorities and you will be a victim if you don’t wise up and take a look around you at the real world.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Many ‘latinos’ adopt the term to relate their ancestry to Latin America’s cultural and racial Diversity rather than the Colonialist Hispanic heritage of the Spanish, Basque, and Portuguese. The terms are used differently from place to place and sometimes but not always interchangeably.

          • moodyjudi

            Since when is a latino considered a Native American?? My Cherokee ancestors are pissed at the insult, and so am I.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            are you even part of a tribe? i have roll card in the lumbee nation cherokee tribe so please you offended the cherokees more by being another white person claiming to be cherokee

          • Fatties after

            Thank you..a white lady with a gggggreat grandma who might have been NA acting offended that PEOPLE WHO ARE NATIVE TO THE AMERICAS are being called NA. Give me a fucking break. Unless you are enrolled with a tribal number and or born on the res you aren’t a fucking Indian.

          • Hey Mr Fantasy

            I’m a native American, as I am of European ancestry but born to a family who has been here since before there was an America. I am not in any way American Indian as I have zero non-white ancestry of any kind. But I AM a Native American, whether or not YOU or anyone approve or agree with it.

            PS, whites were in the Americas first, do some reading. Ever heard of the Solutreans? The Snohomish (sp) Indians of the PNW have tribal history talking about the advanced whites who lived north of them, who had been there for many years before the Indians ever came, and how they traded back and forth, etc until they just disappeared one day. That is just one example of what I’m talking about. Educate yourself and learn the true history not the anti-white lies they teach to make whites hate themselves and give up their birthright.

          • Hey Mr Fantasy

            Hey Lumbee! Are you from Lumberton? From what I can see of your pic you do look like one…but I can’t see the eyes. Man I miss Smithfield Chicken & BBQ :(

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            unfortunately not. i am from oregon my mother enrolled my sister and I we have had meetings with other tribe members that lived in our area. i haven’t had the chance to head out to NC to main HQ. I hope to one day.

          • Marina

            Explain to me how native north americans, like you, who claim to be mixed, have more of a right than native south americans who are mixed, to call them selves native americans. You, a white lady who claims to be of Cherokee ancestry has no more a right to claim nativism than my Mexican purepecha boyfriend.

          • David Fish

            Welfare data separated by white/black/hispanic:

            http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final

            So why weren’t the Hispanic included in the white percentages?

          • enosfolly

            There is no hispanic race. Hispanic is an ethic designation of caucasian i.e. white.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Hispanic is an ethnicity independent of race. There are black hispanics, asian hipanics, white hispanics, etc.

          • GianniP

            “Hispanic:” is not a race; its an ethnicity, like “American” so Hispanics can be of any/every race.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Sort of. Hispanic is an ethnicity. American is a Nationality.

          • GianniP

            They’re similar in that neither bears a racial connotation. You know, Hispanics call us “gringos” in the same manner we call them Hispanics, or Latinos. Capisce?

          • moodyjudi

            If they call me a gringo, then they better be prepared to be called a spick.

          • Emily

            Except the ratio of people who get/have been killed or oppressed for being white vs. people who have been killed for not being white is like 2 to 500,555,555,000 so you can’t act like someone calling you “gringo” actually hurts or threatens you in any way. It gets to be just a word to you, there is no historical context.

          • Dan Trovic

            Is that North or South America?

          • Will Workforf Ood

            I’ll also add that ethnicity and nationality are separate issues. There are Americans Hispanics and Mexicans who are not Hispanic etc.

          • Crystal Car

            They are not white, they are not thought of when you picture a CAUCASIAN American you can’t clump them in with us. That is like saying “Irish, Asian, Same thing.” Nothing against Hispanics, Mexicans or what ever but they aren’t white they are Hispanic. They are their own race, or are we going to start calling light skinned blacks white as well? Hey if we are going to group like that technically a black president has never been in office. Obama is quite light skinned after all.

          • Don’t Even Try It!

            After all, the POS is much more “white” than anything else. And believe me, I wish that wasn’t true! I’d rather the POS be ALL black, then the “black” race could own all the problems the POS has caused!

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Spain is actually closer to the Caucasus Mountains than England which in theory would make those folks and their descendants more ‘Caucasian’ than northern Europeans. More Hispanic people identify as white than any other racial group. Hispanic is not a race – it is an ethnicity… and yes the Spanish are white colonialists just like the majority of europe.

          • Raymond Tower

            hat stems to is far from correct. I live in So. Cal. Not one Hispanic here identifies orbs selves as white. In some communities hat will get you shot

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Over half of the ‘Hispanics’ who responded to the last US Census self-identified as white. With in Latin America ‘white’ is the largest racial group. Look it up. The truth is not based on your assumptions about gun totting latinos in SOcal.

          • Raymond Tower

            Assumptions my a$$. I live around the crap. I have neighbors that are Hispanic. I have co-workers that are Hispanic and none identify as white. Personal experience and knowledge trumps your BS. You have obviously never been to East L.A. or any of the other heavily populated Hispanic areas of Southern California, with the infestation of invaders / illegal aliens. They do not call them selves white. In fact they identify themselves as Latin or Latino, not white. My girlfriends daughter is half white / half Mexican. She identifies her self as Mexican or American.

          • mogul264

            That might make Clinton the ‘first’ “black” President, after all!

          • moodyjudi

            Technically, he is not black or white, he is a mulatto.

          • Crystal Car

            Well you got me there…

          • Localexpert

            CIA run the biggest cartels there is, ask Barry Seal…oh wait Jeb Bush whacked him. Well anyways, you need to do some homework neo Rambo, you think the petty crap on “Cops” is all there is to the drug game? you’re too naïve and well neocon.

          • Jon Hawk

            But her statement is still true..you do not see them dealing in the Ghettos now do you…NO. and they are not out gangbanging either…so she is correct in both cases.

            He didn’t go to the “ghetto.” White drug dealers have developed a sophisticated network

          • Charles

            Are you suggesting that “ghetto” drug dealers are not sophisticated despite their vast experience?

          • Dorothy

            Which somehow makes drug dealing better?? What a surprise that white people flourish in a country built on white supremacy and black people who were taken from their country stripped of their culture and literally just recently received “equal” rights haven’t magically prospered in 50 years.

          • pat ange

            There are planes & boats going back to their country every day, none of you seem all anxious to get back to the jungle. You are blessed to be in America, If you don’t like it get out.

          • C Breeze

            EVERYTHING is within walking distance in New York City,…even drug dealers. If I’m not mistaken, Hoffman lived in the Greenwich Village area; Washington Square Park neighborhood has been a place to score drugs for well over 50 years. A ‘drugee’ never gets too far from his sources.

          • Raymond Tower

            Interesting ignorant statement. I do believe the drug cartels are Mexican, columbian etc. try again libtard.

          • Mr. Diesel

            Oh you mean the drug cartels that are displayed on tv with the “major bust” headline so idiots like you get xenophobic. Meanwhile your polished private school kids are snorting coke and doing alderal like it’s going out of style. Gosh… I love white right wing denial.

          • Raymond Tower

            Idiot, the very cartels that have been caught smuggling right here in So. Cal. The very cartels that have been using boats to get drugs onto our shores here in So. Cal. Those that have members in RAZA and other gangs right here locally. Try again idiot.

          • GianniP

            Obviously, TRUE.

          • moodyjudi

            I would say the truth hurts, because the kicked dog is the one who yelps.

          • Basil Malik
          • Basil Malik
          • livelol

            Ignorant

          • Jon Hawk

            maybe you should check statistics yourself

          • Ayyoosh Umm Aboody Aht

            yeah, i have to agree with that one, too. abagail, don’t hold your breath for too long. since you are so smart, why not contribute to educating such a group of druggies and gangbangers?…perhaps you all haven’t been around se pdx and outer multnomah country much lately. you all have a lot to learn before contributing. 38% blk vs. 38.6 wht, and blk being a lower population percentage means that a higher concentration of the blk population are on welfare vs. the concentration of the whites. and did you ever ask yourself what social needs exist in the blk population? did you ever walk into a neighborhood social service non-profit in one of those neighborhoods to understand or be aware of what barriers the population experience? of course you haven’t. don’t speak about something until you can credibly back up your pointless statements.

          • Mr. Diesel

            Hold on a second… If white people have one thing going for them it’s an overall good PR machine. You don’t SEE whites doing the crimes yet you KNOW they are based on the amounts that are in jail for METH DEALING and PROSTITUTION. Do you think the drug trade is being run by blacks? Hells Angels (which white people glorify by making TV shows such as Sons Of Anarchy) are still a gang but you present them in such a way to make them more the acceptable part of American subculture. The so called “ghetto” concept is another item that was created to describe the Warsaw “ghettoes” of Jews in Poland. A ghetto just describes an area where a similar group of people live.

          • kerryberger

            Most of the Meth Labs here in the South are run by Whites. What are you talking about.

          • Bobloblaw67

            Actually meth labs are mostly in the Midwest. Vermont has the highest meth use per capita.

          • LonnyG773

            Um, Vermont is not in the Midwest stupid.

          • Crystal Car

            I don’t know who said only blacks do or deal drugs. But this is not really the point of the thread. The point is black people are hypocrites, not all of them I have some pretty cool black friends, but these ones that didn’t want to attract white people into the neighborhood are racist and idiotic. First off one Trader Joe’s is not going to all of a sudden make your neighborhood desirable. There is a trader Joes in Nashua NH that doesn’t make me want to move to Nashua. You’ll go there to shop, money will come into the neighborhood and you’ll go home. There would have been jobs, and good organic food at a decent price in the neighborhood.

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            Human beings are hypocrites. No one category of us has a monopoly on hypocrisy…

          • Will Workforf Ood

            You have no idea what’s happening in this neighborhood. That much is clear Crystal. Crystal clear.

          • Crystal Car

            Actually I read up on it. Now this black rights group is back pedaling because they realized they blocked a good thing for the community and other members of said community were upset about it. Now it was never about Trader Joe’s it was about building low cost housing. Hey how about we get jobs over there then we worry about low cost housing? One step at a time folks, how about you let Trader Joe’s move in and then ask them to help you out. You would think they would want a thriving community around their stores. But hey what do I know I’m white.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            There are parts of PDX that need grocery stores and jobs more than we do on my block [i live exactly where this is happening at] The thing about gentrification Crystal is that they are going to have happy people living around the store – they just wouldn’t be the people who can’t endure economic pressure from developers. Gentrification – look it up.

          • Marina

            Same is happening in Oakland. It’s true that pressure from developers can displace entire communities and force them else where in order to house trendy, hip and privileged people who (ironically) are trying to move into more diverse and poorer areas. But rather than working with the community to improve it for both parties, gentrifiers tend to create a new community without regard for ones they are replacing. This is especially relevant in the Bay. SF, Oakland etc.

          • Marina

            This “pity me I’m white thing” is sad and ridiculous

          • Crystal Car

            What are you talking about? How does what I said have anything to do with color? Your sad.

          • Marina

            Bahaha

          • LonnyG773

            One of your conservative buddies started the dumb a** comment about the 38% white population on welfare being of the working poor, but the 38% black population are drug dealers and criminals. So who is the real racist? And as far as this article is concern, their fear is of gentrification, not getting along with white people. There is two sides to every coin. Those that are benefiting from gentrification and those that are being pushed out of a neighborhood they’ve known their whole entire lives. Put yourself in their shoes and then maybe you would understand their argument whether you agree with it or not.

          • Crystal Car

            No one of your idiots started the thread that 38.6 percent of welfare recipients were white, so we pointed out the white population was larger making it a lessor percentage of the over all white population. The drug dealer part is not something I agree with, the working poor isn’t either. Every race, and ethnicity has people who believe welfare is their career choice. I am stating what I see wrong with this neighborhoods decision. I am not a conservative either, I am an American my views are my own. I hate that people always believe you have to fall into a box. Do me a favor and don’t pretend you know what I was saying if you have no reading comprehension skills.

          • LonnyG773

            Well, if me nor anyone else actually understands you, then guess what? We’re not the problem. You are. I can tell your one of those “the world owes me something” kinda people. No one understands you, your so misunderstood. If you’re spending more time on the internet trying to defend yourself and your pity party ways instead of taking constructive criticism and moving on regardless then I’m pretty sure you’re going to be having this same argument this time next year with some new trolls. Again, its no one else fault but your own. Good luck in life…

          • Crystal Car

            Are you serious? Really serious? I am such a the world owes me something person. OMG stop pretending you know people from one comment. You are one of those sarcastics butts that thinks you are better and above everybody else. Making assumptions from something you obviously didn’t look into fully. FYI I am not misunderstood, and the world owes me so much I took in a homeless family of seven and have not charged or asked for anything. I practice what I preach, I want to work my way up I attend college, I say I am there for you I am really there no matter the circumstances. It’s not being a misunderstood person telling you I don’t fall into a box, again you are assuming, when in actuality I was trying to open your blind eyes to the fact that there are people who are not affiliated with a party or a system of views. People that think with their own brains. But hey your such a smart ass I bet you already knew that, unfortunately what you know and what you understand are two different things. Like I know my car takes gas I don’t understand how it uses it…

          • Ayyoosh Umm Aboody Aht

            now you play the victim with your ‘barbie’ under tones, “you are such a butt” bimbo blondey comments. you are racists, so hopefully college will enlighten you with some intelligence. if not, hand over the money to one of the kids in the ne neighborhood so they can do something positive – and speak from a legitimate position called experience

          • Ayyoosh Umm Aboody Aht

            i read everything you wrote and it is utter ignorance. some of us commenting on your postings are native portlanders from the ne neighborhood. we know what we are talking about, because we have seen it with out own eyes. you cannot compare ‘reading up on it’ to actual first hand experience. for years the neighborhood has been so positively responsive to the developments that have rehabilitated the neighborhood. again, it is about producing something workable for the native residents of the neighborhood. gentrification has been experienced by them for at least 30 years. you do not know the factories and companies who were filtered out of the neighborhood, do you? where was the city preservation task force when those employers chose to leave and go elsewhere, or couldn’t survive? how many of those residents lost access to work? how many refugees have been integrated into this city during the past 25 years? do you really want to continue making ridiculous argumentative and disqualified remarks about this situation.

          • Ayyoosh Umm Aboody Aht

            crystal, you are incredibly ignorant and not at all qualified to speak about the community leaders in that neighborhood. for the past 30 years whites have gone into the neighborhood to rehabilitate it, because the blacks didn’t have the access to the necessary resources to clean up their neighborhood. you do NOT know what the families in that neighborhood had to go through to advocate for better law enforcement to clean up so much of the crime. prostitution was rampant there. they were white prostitutes. i remember, because i grew up in the neighborhood in a white family, and we couldn’t go anywhere without being forced to see the prostitutes. there were hundreds of bars and liquor stores. the black residents in that neighborhood fought tooth and nail to get policing to be real effective. they started community outreach organizations to tackle some of the greater problems. they got rid of the prostitution; they got rid of the over whelming liquor stores and bars. at the same time they were trying to clean up their neighborhood, the white hippies were attracted into the neighborhood. yes, they have cleaned it up a lot, and have tried very hard to compliment the neighborhood with the types of businesses they have developed there. it didn’t stop the rapid increase in property values which made it almost difficult for a struggling population to afford to live there – the least expensive neighborhood to live in at the time. the neighborhood is represented by multiple generations, sometimes 4 and 5 generations from just 1 house. the current fight very much involves ‘what’ is trying to enter the neighborhood, and ‘who’ is it going to benefit. is tj’s going to employ the black youth and single mothers from the neighborhood? or are they going to hire the bicycle hippie girl who is from the west hills? there are plenty of natural and organic food chain stores in the neighborhood and tons of neighborhood farmer markets. the white people do not have the right to bust into a neighborhood so that they can set up home and shop cheaply at the same time force the natural born residents out. the neighborhood still needs development, but the development needs to compliment the unique needs of the neighborhoods. ohhh, and it being a predominately black neighborhood, do you know how many somali and ethiopian refugees soak up the low income and affordable housing resources in that neighborhood? how many of those small mom and pop businesses are owned by the refugees (who employ themselves instead of the youth from the neighborhood), the small mom and pop businesses that all of us college educated people don’t want to see run out by large corporations? to all of you who are NOT from portland, oregon DO NOT make further remarks against the neighborhood leadership and residents on this one. you want to have a say so, come here and develop something to help those people rather than imposing more hate onto them. why didn’t the city give that discounted property to a black corporation that could build an establishment there that will engage the black families with culturally appropriate services? why wasn’t it given to winco, which is more affordable? why wasn’t it given to a corporation to build a family dinner theatre? obviously the leaders in that neighborhood felt justifiably concerned that tj’s wouldn’t compliment the individual needs of the neighborhood.

          • Marina

            “The point is black people are hypocrites, not all of them I have some pretty cool black friends…” What does that even mean? You have a few black friends who are “pretty cool.” Do you think that makes you any less racist? Have you met all these black people you are calling hypocrites? What you are saying is not only ignorant and lacks knowledge of basic historical knowledge and context but also so blatantly racist and a great example of blind american privilege and modern day white supremacy. People like you are the problem, and the reason these people don’t want white people in their neighborhood. Just like gang bangers give black people a bad rep, you give white people a bad rep. How are you this blind? I don’t get it.

          • Crystal Car

            People like me are not the problem. I am the furthest away from privileged you could get. The problem is people like you who will twist any comment into a racial bias. I called my black friends pretty cool, how the f*&k is that racist? There are black hypocrites. Go ahead, I am sure all of this is racist to. Spare me the BS.

          • Ayyoosh Umm Aboody Aht

            diesel, don’t assume that all of us whites don’t already know about the organized drug practices of whites; and don’t assume that all of us are racists like those who watch sons of anarchy.

          • Choy Huey

            That’s because they were too busy raping children.

          • icee

            Right, because ALL poor white people are disdisenfranchised and hardworking to rise above that, and ALL poor blacks are violent drug dealers. Yes, it might be a fact that poor blacks are statusticslly more likely to be “dealing drugs in the ghettoes or gangbanging,” but that doesn’t mean that they all partake in those behaviors. Believe it or not, a lot of blacks actually make an honest living, while some white actually deal drugs and commit violent crimes. Your attitude is what perpetuates some people’s belief that all blacks are criminals and violent.

          • Basil Malik

            what an ignorant jack ass statement.. all you have to do is use google you mindless idiot stop lying to yourself. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/racial-disparity-drug-use_n_3941346.html

          • Basil Malik
          • Marc Ward

            WOW This is the country I live in pitiful. Haters hate everything including themselves.

          • LonnyG773

            You apparently never saw the TV show Breaking Bad have you???

          • nycgirl

            I am on welfare i work and go to school but living in a city i cannot pay everything once i am done with school i will be getting off it. I am white i use it as my stepping stone not as my career. i have seen those who do use it as a career and some are black some are white some are Spanish. low lives are low lives no matter color of skin.

          • Tony Anzalone

            LOL and people wonder why you people are considered racist

          • livelol

            Are you kidding me??!!!

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            i call bull on that one. obviously you have never been to Oregon or to the midwest. where do you think they are cooking meth? those whites on welfare are gangbanging and drug dealing too. its called Hell’s angels, the mongols, aryan brotherhood, KKK, jeez how dumb are you????

          • amy

            Yah, that’s not true either sweetie. Maybe per capita, sure but a general statement like that…no!

          • Disney Walker

            and what is the point?

          • Disney Walker

            it was a race group that stopped the new store. is that relevant. no group called white Americans is involved.

          • HonestToAtee

            Yea, Obama built that!

          • Garys_opinion

            God, are you stupid!

          • Tristan Thomas

            You’re an idiot….that’s what he politely meant by a ‘special kind of stupid’….If whites are supposedly 74% of the population(actually it’s 77.9%) and you supposedly have 38.6 on welfare compared to 38% of blacks on welfare out of a total population of blacks which is 13.1% of the US then, any idiot (unless you are totally retarded) can see that more BLACKS are on the dole than whites….THAT IS THE POINT YOU FUCKING MORON!

          • Kibber_SF

            I find it very funny (thank you for the laugh) that you call the writer of the original comment that is being discussed an idiot for not knowing what data she used when it is YOU who are entering new data into the equation that has no bearing on the original comment data…only the racists are using total population numbers in a formula that doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with total population…I shouldn’t be explaining this to you, your little yellow bus is waiting to take you to school….

          • Reader

            Tristan, you ‘re not good with mathematics are u?? 1. The percentages represent overall recipients. As whites make up a larger percentage of the overall population of welfare recipients, they also represent a numerically larger population of welfare recipients. There’s no reason to further break down the numbers dude, but even if you do, 38% of welfare recipients doesn’t translate into the same quantity f a demographic population. Nice try tho – guess you never thought skipping class in middle school would have this kind of impact on your life.

          • enosfolly

            The equation is getting muddled…the 100% is of those taking welfare which is divided 38% black and 38.6% white, the balance to other racial or ethic groups. Now take the percents of total population, and that is where the error lies. More whites are on welfare than blacks; however more blacks per their percent of the whole population are on welfare. Now does that make it easier to figure out?

          • Ryan Jordan

            actually, I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from… 39.8% black, 38.8% white

          • Bobloblaw67

            It isn’t 38.6% of whites are on welfare, it’s 38.6% of those on welfare are white. 38% of those on welfare are black. The raw absolute numbers are equal, but proportionally blacks are 5 times more likely to collect welfare.

          • Logan Roberts

            once again way too hard for them to comprehend. do an apple and oranges example.

          • Alucard_the_last

            And we pay the most taxes and THAT IS THE POINT!!

          • Stacy Buckner

            Until we rid ourselves of those who divide us based on color things will never change…my first thought was opportunity for jobs, great…then some group walks in with their own agenda and rapes that community of opportunity and perpetuates the message of racism…until we rise above these race baiters, we will never be united and all Americans suffer!!!

          • Vance 4: 26

            Good Luck trying to convience these folks on this thread that. Not only do they refuse to accept that, they are brain washed by websites like this one by it also.

          • Crystal Car

            Not true Vance, it’s not the statistics from this site. It is true more white people are on welfare. But it is true a higher percentage of the overall black population is on welfare. It is also true that if there were a group called white Americans blocking an ethnic store there would be an out cry. It’s not an even field. If you want to not divide into races treat everybody the same. No matter the color.That means every ethnicity.

          • Vance 4: 26

            Can you provide reference to your stats? Would love to see them. If you can’t no use in arguing the point.

          • pepjrp

            No your brain in on drugs Linda… with large POINT at the top!

          • ChristineCD

            That’s not the point!!! The percentage is the true telling.

          • Zephaniah

            No it isn’t the point.

          • Jon Hawk

            yes we have more whites on welfare then ever before, but they are not the majority on welfare.

          • louisk

            A recent statistic that was sent to me ( not yet validated) is that the stats for caucasions included Hispanics and Asians. Perhaps a politically correct move to move the burden off of blacks. Don’t know. I do know however why so many blacks are on welfare. Lyndon Baines Johnson.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Probably because poverty was the legally enforced condition on black america for centuries Louis and it is not over.

          • galensdad

            You really are a special kind of stupid…aren’t you?

          • enosfolly

            I would like the breakdown on the percentage difference that are beyond the 2nd generation still on welfare. The white statistic have gone up during this recent economic downturn. Bet the percentage of the whites looking for work is higher..

          • lsb_11

            NO you have more blks by population stupid. The 38% of blks on welfare is more by population because they are a smaller portion of the population as a whole. Whereas, whts being at 38.6% are less users of welfare because they’re 72% of total population!

          • Logan Roberts

            thats way to hard for her to comprehend. thats why i did it with apples and oranges below.

          • Brad Ledel

            You full of crap, where do you get your numbers? or information for that matter.

          • GianniP

            No, you completely missed the point. Go find somewhere else to post…..

          • Crystal Car

            No they were comparing percentage and you cannot pull out statistics without looking at them all! This is the most racist thing I have seen ever!

          • Don’t Even Try It!

            You don’t understand ratios and percentages. Go find somebody that has the time to teach you simple mathematics. Please be aware, it might take a long time. Liberals seem to be slow learners when it comes to logic and math…you may want to stay with the touchy-feely stuff.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            they have been having this mathematics argument forever. not even worth the effort. only a few people got it right. and then everyone else was like you are wrong because we want to be right… so don’t even attempt to explain it any of these poor souls….

          • ScottinVA

            You’re not a particularly bright person, are you, Linda? The point about proportional representation was made and it sailed right over your head.

          • Charisa White

            NO THE POINT IS THEY ARE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT AREAS 0OF TOWN WQHITE PEOPLE CAN SHOP IN

          • Bobloblaw67

            Lol by .6%

          • livelol

            with the historic advantage, it should be 0%

          • nynetguy

            HORSESHIT!
            Let’s assume we have a population of 1,000,000 people of which 900,000 are white and 100,000 are black.
            Now let’s assume that there are 200,000 welfare recipients with 60% being white and 40% being black. That makes 120,000 white welfare recipients and 80,000 black welfare recipients.
            Going back to the original populations that means 13% of the white population is on welfare and 80-FUCKING-PERCENT of the black population is on welfare.
            Learn some basic math skills you ignorant buffoon. It’s not the sum total of a population which is on welfare that counts; it’s the percentage of that population that number represents.

          • Ryan Jordan

            uh, you couldn’t be more incorrect… can you not do simple math? with regards to percentage of population?

          • pat ange

            What is the number of whites paying 90% of the taxes

          • livelol

            you can’t believe that to be true

          • pat ange

            Really?

          • Burn_the_Witch

            I’ll try to put this so you might understand what should be an simple concept to grasp – when you see a white person and a black person, it is statistically more likely that the black person is on welfare.

          • curmudgeon

            You poor unintelligent dupe. Lenin referred to you and your ilk as “Useful idiots”!

          • Logan Roberts

            ok lets try this. if you have 20 apples(blacks race) and 7 are rotten. ok. now you have 50 oranges(white race) and 9 are rotten. yes you have more rotten oranges, but there is a larger amount of oranges in total.

          • Bob Paglione

            We also have a higher % of elderly whites in this country so maybe that’s why White welfare recipients are higher Break it down by age, also check how many White mothers with Black babies because their men refuse to support them once the child is born

          • pevans1

            Wouldn’t be that way if we threw all the illegals out! THAT’S THE REAL POINT!

          • pat ange

            your ignorance is unbelievable. Howbout we get the same # blacks paying all taxes in this country as the same # of white people paying all taxes. By your math this is the way it should be. PAY UP!

          • Poodleguy

            No it isn’t, dumazz!! The percentage of the whole is THE POINT!!!!! I remember hearing a child’s toy saying “Math is hard for girls” when you pulled it’s string……….kinda fits you, Linda Mc….

          • yvonne martinez

            My God you’re stupid! Are you able to dress yourself in the morning.

          • Jeff Fowler

            Ok then we need white affirmative action to correct this injustice.

          • Buzzbw2

            Linda I’m typing slowly so you might understand this. YES there are more or roughly the same amount on welfare but there are WAY more white people in america. Statistically there are more poor whites in the US, people that have no voice(Jesse Jackson etc), no organizations(NAACP,LaRAZA, JDL, UNCF etc), no politicians that stand up for them to get elected, no built in excuse (racism, prejudice etc) for every bad thing that happens and the lack of opportunities. Being poor and white you have way fewer opportunities, no affirmative, action no hate crime laws to protect you or your children from being attacked just because of skin color. All the rich white libs that holler about equality need to shut up until you desegregate yourselves from your predominantly all white schools and gated communities, live in the real world, break down in and or have to walk through a minority neighborhood at night. Spend a few years as a poor white man and see if your views don’t change.

          • Fige Bornu

            It is not hatred, it is disdain for a group of people who dare claim to be white supremacists when it fact you are white inferiors.

          • Steve Stribley

            Yeah, we actually have to work to obtain our needs.

          • FedUp

            Amen to that…..every single day whether I feel good or bad……while some are sitting home watching “montel” and “jerry springer” talking on their cell phones and getting their nails done…..must be nice…

          • Emily

            This enemy of yours is only in your mind, have a good life :

          • FedUp

            BULLSHIT, Ive been working since I was 16. Sometimes 2 jobs, that was 42 years ago. Why should my hard earned money go to people who DONT WANT TO WORK!!!!!!!! How many years have you worked?????????????

          • Emily

            I promise only a penny of your tax money goes to people who “don’t want to work”. Lots of people on welfare are disabled! Yes, they CAN’T work. Now, if you’re suggesting either someone with a severe disability should still go work -or- not exist at all then you’re meaner than I thought. Otherwise, most people on welfare do work. This is a fact. I understand -some- people don’t, but why we can’t assume we know; but MOST. PEOPLE. RECEIVING. WELFARE. WHO. ARE. ABLE-BODIED. ENOUGH. TO. WORK. DO. DEFINITELY. WORK. Some even work two jobs and STILL don’t make enough money to pay the rent, so they get welfare (albeit they probably get a tiny bit). Basically: getting welfare is not the same as not working or being lazy.

            I’m not even close to as old as you so the whole “How many years have you worked???????????” question is irrelevant. Moreso, it’s just miserable to know that you’ve been alive for 58 years and you still seethe about having to pay taxes that help kids eat dinner when they wouldn’t be otherwise. You’ve lived 58 years and you’re still not smart enough to pick the bone with CORPORATE WELFARE, the mega-corporations with negative tax rates (yes, that guarantees that every year they get a return check. yes, HUGE companies, like GE). You pay for that! Yet, you are falling for the distraction. Be outraged! They said. The poor people are stealing all your hard-earned money! They said. Nikes and nail salons! They said. While Exxon used your hundred dollar bill to finish their replica of the Great Pyramids made only out of hundred dollar bills, then burnt it, because they’re billionaires who don’t give a crap about your or your two jobs :

          • FedUp

            Self-righteous much????? Don’t you dare lecture me you liberal clueless babbling idiot. And I am smarter than you will ever be. Just like a radical leftist to accuse some one who takes care of the sick and the poor every f**king day with more compassion than you’ve got in your toe. So STFU and go get another glass of koolaid and settle down to watch some MSNBC………………………………………

          • Emily

            I don’t care if you’re smarter than me, that’s not the point. You didn’t even respond to what I said in my comment so it doesn’t sound like you possess an attention span long enough to even read the whole thing. I didn’t babble at all, I clearly stated logical truths, actually. If that’s sounds like babbling to you it might be because I’m not yelling/honking/interrupting/blathering like your beloved Bill O’Reilly.

          • madbro411

            Do you think America is a Country based on Christian values…Then read your bible

            Matthew 25:35-40

            35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you
            gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

            37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ 40 “The
            King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the
            least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

          • livelol

            Yes, black and white..get pissed at both and then you will be taken seriously.

          • FedUp

            Oh, and saying we don’t want a Starbucks in our neighborhood because it will attract more white people is not racist….and just who in the hell has claimed to be a white supremacist….it is people like you who keep the race wars going you ignorant ass…

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Your information is all wrong!!

          • david

            and at this point I jump in fige . here you are calling the white race inferior and what icon do you flash? Fige what happened to the SAT scores Hmmm? why Is it the inferiors score so much higher than your superior black races scores? why is it most White inferiors are more intelligent. have any insight on that at all? let face it a black boy cant think he just mobs up and becomes a criminal.

          • madbro411

            Wow, I guess you need a little more education yourself. You need to do
            your research. Who do you think developed the SAT Exams? A group of
            white men at Princeton University. During the development phase of the
            SAT tests, after administering the exams to a group of students, all the
            females scored better than the males. Seeing this, the developers
            changed the exams and re-administered it. The white males scored better
            this time around. This is the exam that is now used for ALL students.
            So I guess if its made by white males for white males….of course they
            should be doing better.

          • Dorothy

            What a shocker! An intelligence test created by white people for white people and whites have higher scores. Take a university psych course and you will learn the many flaws of the SATs and why other countries don’t use it.

          • david

            ah so you don’t think a math and English test is fair. it is to test if you are academic is college level. and in all fairness if not made to cater to one race. IT’S MATH and ENGLISH. oh wait I forgot blacks have a hard time speaking English let alone using it in written form.

          • Drifanwulf

            Calling ANYONE inferior IS HATRED.

          • Tristan Thomas

            yeah, we’re inferior….that’s why when the Europeans arrived on the shores of Africa all your black asses were still in the STONE AGE….that’s a fact jack and no Afrocentric revisionist history will change it!

          • livelol

            So you were there right? And who revise history more than you all? You are very good at moving borders and “discovering” the discovered.

          • Jon Hawk

            so you are claiming that You are Superior?

          • Crystal Car

            Nobody said they were supremacists. It’s people like you who call all white people a “group” that cause racism and race wars. You know what I am going to “group” you in with the black people in prison. Please don’t take my purse!!

          • moodyjudi

            .You are welcome to leave our country any time and return to your dirty flea infested goat hut.

          • livelol

            You are very welcome to leave “my” country and return to your potato famine.

          • Henry

            It’s not your country, remember you are african americans, you ignorant Irish haters.

          • livelol

            It is as much, if not more, my country as it is yours! I never said I was African-American. You ignorant hate monger!

          • Henry

            And how is it more of your country than mine? What have you ever done for this country? You are the ignorant hate monger.

          • livelol

            You are the one who said it isn’t my country, ask yourself that question.

          • Henry

            Only an ignorant person would wish someone go back to the potato famine that killed many, many Irish people.And what have you ever done for this country.I needn’t ask myself that, I know what I have done.

          • livelol

            You guys can justify slavery and murder of native americans, but expect sympathy for your misfortune…you are an idiot! Other people love themselves as much as you love yourselves..send me to slaughter and I say you lead the way!

          • Henry

            I never justified slavery or murder and I don’t expect or want any sympathy from a stupid lowlife such as you.Don’t forget your black people owned slaves also in this country and also took part in killing the Indians, look up the buffalo soldiers and have somebody read about them to you as you are obviously to illiterate to do it yourself.The misfortune wasn’t mine I am not of Irish lineage. But you blacks want everything handed to you for something that didn’t happen to you.Grow up, take responsibility for yourselves and quit whining. If there is a slaughter, I would bet you would lose.I cannot waste any more time talking to a moron like you, so get lost.

          • livelol

            I’ve never had anything handed to me. My family was immigrants to this country and they and I have worked hard for absolutely everything we have….your broad brush about all things race related is what I replied to…you see how you thought you knew me??!!

          • Memphomaniac

            “A Mind…is a Terrible Thing”…to have.

          • pepjrp

            livelol say thank you sir.

          • nastinupe

            So if there is only one person of one race in an entire country and 100 million of another race in the same country and that one person was on welfare and 50,000 of the other race was on welfare would the percentages matter?

          • Jon Hawk

            nope

          • moodyjudi

            These idiots are not going to get it. They are either really stupid or are being purposefully obtuse just to argue. Too bad we cant give them the exact figure, ie 100 blacks, 68 whites, 22 Asians, 33 hispanics, etc. They are too stupid to understand percentiles. Don’t waste your time, it is like trying to teach a pig to sing…..and they are too lazy to look it up.

          • livelol

            How about paying for the free labor received to make this country the wealthy country you boast about? There should be NO whites with the advantage that you have had over other races of people!!

          • Crystal Car

            But there is not only one, so that is a moot question. But yes that would make that race in said country more dependent on handouts.

          • David Mathewson

            Love it!!

          • Wiley Brooks-Martin

            Can you post the mathematical formula you are using to support your claim? I would like to see it. That is the best way to prove your point; by example.

          • Choy Huey

            And? There are still more Whites on welfare than Blacks. In general, Whites are also lazy and that’s why your evil ancestors sat on their greedy, lazy behind, raping African kids whilst Blacks were out working in the fields. Take your hate and shove it.

          • moodyjudi

            What an imagination! If you were more literate, I would suggest a career in writing fiction.

          • pat ange

            How about the African tribe chiefs who sat on their lazy behinds and had slaves to wait on them, then they realized how valuable slaves were, SO THEY sold them to the White Man. Made slaves out of more of their people so they could continue to sell them. There is plenty of BLAME to go around. But blaming don’t do nothing but make Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson and the like RICH. They are still keeping you in chains, and you don’t even realize it. Is there still racism in this country? Yes, but there is just as much or more black on white hate as white on black. This does nothing but fester and prevent healing. There are more from each race that do not feed into the HATE-Mongers than those who do. We should all use our energy to trust God, and love one another, and to work hard and make something out of our selfs. You are much happier when you acomplish things that make you proud and respected.Honest hard work hurts no one and the rewards are totally awsome. We are all Gods children.

          • Guest

            Revisionist history here!!!

          • Dorothy

            Slavery within one’s own race/ ethnicity has always happened. Slave trade was even in the Bible but this does not compare to the systematized, race based slavery of the Americans. Blacks were slaves simply because the color of our skin somehow made us less than human. After slavery ended segregation was legal up until the mid 1960s. I don’t know why white people cannot see their privilege in this stolen land built on slavery and segregation. Whites were the only people allowed to fluorish in the country for centuries before the blacks that were forced into this country and all of a sudden blacks are given rights and are just supposed to get over it and catch up to the 100s of years lead that whites had in less than a lifetime??

          • pat ange

            Your BLACK BLACK BLACK chiefs sold your ancesters, if they had not, white people would not have bought them. BLACK BLACK BLACKS are more responcible than whites. Why don’t admit the truth. You were not a slave, nobody owes you anything. Why don’t you stop the pity party, get up of your lazy butt and make something out of your self. You want to pop out one baby after another with 4 or 5 different Baby Daddies’ who are too sorry to take care of them and be a father to them. They grow up with poor self esteem, join a gang, go to jail, and you want to blame everyone but the ones responsible: YOU and BABY DADDY. GET REAL! Look at all the great black people in this country who are happy and have made a good life for their family. They did not sit on a lazy butt feeling sorry for themselves, They validated themselves, as all responsible, intelligent humans do. You are a hate-monger & a racist. Want to see who is to blame for your life; look in a mirrow. If you don’t like it, get up and do something about it.

          • Nomad

            You’re just manipulating the viewpoint. It can be seen both ways. From a government standpoint at least, MUCH more tax dollars are being spent in support of poor White people than Black.

          • fedup

            Even speaking slowly and using little words won’t get through to the people that don’t want to hear the facts.

          • a c

            That still doesn’t make sense. If 100 people are on welfare, 38 people are black and 38.6 people are white. What Isb_11 didn’t make sense either so livelol was correct in calling out his error. I’m not talking about the actual issue here, just the way the numbers are explained is wrong on both accounts.

          • Jim

            Yeah considering whites were not enslaved and oppressed, denied opportunity for generations. Pretty good huh? Now imagine if you White guys had never been here the first place. That would mean the blacks would not of been oppressed for generations.being raped ,mutilated, whipped and tortured. Let’s not even talk about the genocide on the Indians.

          • moodyjudi

            I guess you never read the Bible or heard a little story about a man named Moses?

          • Jim

            No the white man was never enslaved and oppressed in America.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            moses wasn’t white he was hebrew which means there was nothing white about him. he was tan silly….. please go educate yourself. let me guess jesus was white too?

          • livelol

            Your are right Ishmael…And an additional piece of history is “biblical Hebrews” are not “progressive Jews” so while they are educating themselves they may want to timeline history prior to the geo-political borders they created to back up their revisionist history.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            isn’t that the freaking truth.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            not only are you right listen to this orthodox jews do not even recognize the new state of israel. here is a link to tons of interviews from real jews and what they have to say…. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jews%20against%20israel&sm=1

          • livelol

            In recent history….Jim Crow until 1965…There are people alive today who experienced that oppression moodyjudi, stop the bull.

          • Dorothy

            Thank you!This was less than 50 years ago these people are still alive. Just because the laws were abolished doesn’t mean that the people who followed them all of a sudden changed their racist ways.

          • livelol

            @ Dorothy, the guilty love to scapegoat and fingerprint, but that doesn’t excuse them of their guilt. This argument is really null and void. With their historical advantage, they should not be in need of social services PERIOD!!! And have the nerve to be arguing the point of how much? Stolen land, slave labor, pure profit and they have the nerve to count pennies!! WOW!!

          • Dorothy

            And what makes you think Moses was white?

          • moodyjudi

            Actually, black slaves were captured and sold into slavery by black tribes to the English and French, so again this argument is moot, and invalid.They would still be slaves either way. And the native Americans fought and killed each other and they took captives and made slaves of them as well. And China also had slaves, I could go on, but I doubt your brain could handle it. Face it, your race was raped mutilated, tortured, and whipped by your own people LONG before whitey came along. Look, even today your people are killing each other in record numbers. You can’t even get along with each other! Lmfao!

          • Jim

            Yeah and some of the white Tribes became nazis. Conducted the Inquisition. Conducted the Crusades. Untold invasions and wars. What is your point?

          • Henry

            And the black tribes in africa are committing genocide today. Most live like savages.

          • livelol

            Make yourself feel better any way you must…this is bull

          • livelol

            You just admitted your lie, little “cherokee”

          • Dorothy

            Yea and whites were enslaved by whites and Asians were enslaved by Asians etc.what’s your point ? This does not compare to the racialized system of slavery set up in America that inhibited blacks from flourishing for hundreds of years. Segregation laws presented blacks as less than human merely because of the colour of skin.

          • Henry

            Yep you’d be back in africa living in mud huts and living just like in the stone age. The rest of your comment is BS.

          • livelol

            It would be nice to see what Africa would be had it not been for foreign invaders. And last time I checked, there are parts of Europe that are fighting like savages…explain that

          • Henry

            It would just be the same sewer it is today, because most Whites have left and the savages are running rampant. The problems in Europe are being caused by muslims.

          • livelol

            AWWWW. poor you…it is always someone else’s fault for your misfortune…If would get over the idea that everything of value belongs to you, and keep your ass out of other people’s country…you wouldn’t have to “save” the world. The native americans had to teach you how to exist in this country…who saved who? And last time I check, there were European Muslims…Muslims are not a race but a religion genius

          • Henry

            You really are stupid aren’t you?I never said anything about my misfortune, maybe you should find somebody with some intelligence to read to you.Well if I should say out of other peoples country, then drag you sorry butt back where your family came from.Nobody had to save me. I never said muslims were a race genius. I said the problems were caused by muslims, followers of that cult islam. Now I know for sure you are an uneducated fool.

          • livelol

            You drag your sorry ass back where your sorry ass came from first. This country is not yours! and I said there are European Muslims so what is your point, it is Europeans who happen to be Muslims causing European problems.

          • livelol

            And your calling me stupid is a compliment, because you are far from genius

          • Henry

            I was born in this country you sorry excuse for a human being. This country is mine . The problems in Europe are being caused by muslim immigrants to Europe, stupid. Pull your head out of your ass and check things out. I can’t hardly believe you are so stupid.

          • livelol

            I was born in this country as well, you sorry excuse for a human being…see how easy that is?…you don’t have the monopoly over spewing insults either, they can be spit right back at you…You are not the superior being you think yourself to be…deal with that.

          • Henry

            Blah blah blah. BS in your head BS out of your mouth.blahblahblah.

          • Guest

            you implied that the savages in Europe were not white but Muslim.. But I’m sure you will argue this fact

          • Jim

            Yeah use the same terms as the Nazis did for exterminating the Jews.

          • Dorothy

            Because every one in Africa lives in mudhuts? Don’t believe the world vision ads you see on TV hunny.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            well the part about the indians i agree with but look at africa today and back then. africa was enslaving its own people for hundred of years and other tribes thought themselves superior to others. like zulus despised so many other tribes in africa its hilarious. but the africans were a very educated people through and through even though they didnt have grand cities. i think that was cause they realized that was not in harmony with nature…

          • adcbeast

            Anti-Thinker … Who built black communities across the country? WHITES

            Who set the earning conditions for blacks in the US? WHITES …

            So conservatives WHINING about any minority getting welfare is joke

          • LittleRoot_48

            They need you to use pictures when discussing multiplication facts. 3 x 3 = 9 must come with 3 cookie jars containing 3 cookies in each so they can count the cookies to come up with the answer of 9.

          • Jr Jackson

            No. Your syllogism fails on its face and application. 38% is less than 38.6%. Further, 38% of blacks on food stamps who are 14% of the total population, is less than 38.6% of whites on food stamps who are of 72% of the total population. According to the us census bureau, the latest data being from 2009 census, 10,586,000 white persons were registered recipients of SNAP, while only 7,333,000 blacks. No matter how hard you to make blacks into these vilified welfare Queens, they aren’t the only ones benefitting from welfare: not even the primary beneficiaries. But hey, keep racism alive. It is, after all, how America was built.

          • petem

            if population is 1 million and blacks are 14% and whites 72%, blacks equal 140000 people, whites 720000. lets say 40 percent of blacks =64000. 40 % of whites =288000. That’s how math works for all you super intelligent white folk who use this argument.

          • blackreality

            You albino mutants love to throw up the “percentage smoke screen” about welfare.The only thing that matters are the RAW NUMBERS. And the raw numbers state that the majority of people who get welfare is WHITE. Now there are Blacks who get welfare and there is a REASON why some Blacks would need it.Because there we laws for DECADES in this country that LEGALLY disenfranchised Blacks economically. The fact that the laws in this country have given whites preferential treatment over Blacks (including affirmative action,which benefits white women mostly) and there are so many whites STILL getting welfare,speaks VOLUMES about white people.

          • Dununba Mandrill

            ALL YOU WHITE NIGGA’S SOUND THE SAME!

          • Lowe

            talk about race baiting. someone didn’t even read the article and just ran with the title. It was a fight against gentrification not against white people in particular.

          • Steve Rusakiewicz

            38 out of 100 vs 38 out of 300. Which one represents the larger cross section? Do you even have basic math skills?

          • Dencal26

            Steve you don’t get it. Its 38% of ALL people on welfare. Not 38% of the Black Population. So if 100 people on welfare and 38 are black and 38 are white. But there are far fewer blacks in the population

          • eaglestalon

            Forget it. Trying to explain facts to a liberal is like trying to teach Quantum Physics to a Flea.

            Besides it confuses and enrages them, causing wild arm swinging, filthy language, hand wringing and bed wetting.

          • livelol

            Want to talk Quantum Physics, I have all night, was my favorite subject….GO!

          • eaglestalon

            Whether we discussed the Ehrenfest Theorem, Adiabatic Approximation or Clebsch-Gordan coefficient, you would be as hopelessly lost there as you appear to be here.

            Just because you have an interest in something does not mean you have an understanding.

            As I said, this is quite evident in your case.

          • livelol

            Nice google search. And my point exactly Your interest does not make you an expert!

          • neo rambo

            you will never make these dumbed down kool-aid drinkers understand. The problem is kids go to school and get passed just for being in class.

          • Jon Hawk

            that is not the way it was presented though..go back and read it again…it was the % of whites vs the percentage of blacks on welfare – 38.6% of whites and 38% of Blacks..blacks make up approx. 13 – 15 % of the total population in the US – where as Whites make up approx 75-77% of the total population of the US.

          • Dencal26

            I agree. Some seem to think 38% of each race is on welfare making that many more whites which is not the case.

          • Bobloblaw67

            I didn’t read it that way. It was clear to me.

          • Jon Hawk

            Actually that is the same..38 is 38 no matter how you slice it…now talk % as in 38% of 100 = 38 and 38% of 300 = 114

          • Bobloblaw67

            Wrong dummy. The fact you have 20 thumbs up to 3 thumbs down shows how stupid Americans are at basic math problems.

          • livelol

            Not worried about the population, just the bill and whites account for .6% more of that bill.

          • GoodBusiness

            Obvious that Democrat Progressives did not study math. Not many understand numbers or they would not continue to spend more than they take in each year.

            The national debt would not have increased by $ 7 trillion on Obama’s watch. He is still spending like a rich drunk in Las Vegas – do not worry it will be better 10 years from now?

            Team Obama is still using Keynesian theory economic when Keynes denounced his ides of 20 yeas. He had failed and he hoped that the Invisible Hand of Adam Smith would save England

          • RobertNorwood

            Actually I’ve heard there is hope on the debt and it comes from the democrats. They propose to limit the National Debt when it can fill all the empty space in Nancy Pelosi’s head.
            Given the galactic proportions involved I wouldn’t wait around – this could take light years.

          • RobertNorwood

            Exactly – if you pour a cup of bleach into 20 gallons of water it will be stronger than a cup poured into one gallon. Wait a minute…can someone check my math please?

          • HonestToAtee

            Welcome to the Obama Social Justice failure of an economy.

          • Shadow14US

            I see you didn’t do well in math in school, did you.

          • livelol

            Actuallly, I did quite well…or was that one of your racial stereotypes? Performed quite well in all areas, if I should say so myself…you?

          • Shadow14US

            I’d truly love to hear who you read anything “racial” into my comment. Then again anything that speaks of the truth is considered “racial”. If we disagree, we’re racist, if we speak the truth, we’re racist. So my saying you must haven’t done well in math in your mind MUST be a Racial slur.

            As for me, didn’t do well in HS, but in college I excelled.

          • livelol

            Happy for you, but you are not the only one so stop thinking yourself and your opinions to be more exceptional than others..they are just that…yours!

          • Shadow14US

            You didn’t answer the question, but surprising once someone asks you to prove your assumption, instead like all liberals/progressives you must deflect the question so that you don’t have to answer. It has nothing to do with my opinion, which had no racial intent or connotation, you just “assumed” it was racial, therefore it must be racial.

          • moodyjudi

            I know people who ‘did quite well’ and can’t
            spell, add, or form a simple sentence. Thank you ‘no child left behind’! Obviously you need to brush up on your math skills, or quit acting stupid just to start an argument.

          • pat ange

            it is a far less % than blacks. How about if blacks start paying 38% of all the taxes, paid in; if its all the same. we will buy that, how about you?

          • livelol

            If you are going to be truthful regarding this matter, you will admit Jim Crow being the norm until 1965 was a bit of a hindrance on any people attempting to contribute their fair share. I know it is hard for you to fathom that the people who complain the loudest about the state of the black race, did a great deal to contribute to the things they complain about..check out black wall street in Tulsa. Just imagine the contributions their descendants could have made:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa,_Oklahoma

          • moodyjudi

            Really? My family is Cherokee, Irish, and German Jew. None of MY people owned slaves. Get over yourself. I doubt many people on this page had slaves in their family history.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            sorry but i had to throw a couple of insults your way since you threw some my way. why you would attack me since reading your comments shows that you align yourself along same lines of thinking as i do.

          • Dorothy

            Jim Crow laws are NOT about who owned slaves or slavery at all. They were segregation laws set to hold black people from prospering!

          • pat ange

            No one but the democrats can deni the past. They were the party of segregation. They were the KKK. Remember Gov. George Wallace; he was the perfect democrat, all of who fought intergration. Don’t deni this, my family and I lived in the South during this time. I saw & heard Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. That is why my family is no longer democrats. They do everything possible to cause race problems in this country. They strive to keep black people “Dumbed-Down so that they can controll and use them to gain their purposes. If they loved black people they would want to see them succeed and be proud & happy. There is no better feeling than knowing you have achieved success and obtained respect, & trust. There is no true reward from dependence & pity. You don’t have to be a Dr. or Lawyer, or ect. Who does not respect an honest smart plumier or mechanic, or carpenter. I have 3 grown kids, One has several levels of advanced education. One got on the job training, now an office manager. the other is a great honest mechanic. I’m just as proud of each. They are each happy & self sufficent. We as a country provide opportunity for all who want it and are willing to work for it. Our government is destroying that. The obama administration has set race relations back 50 years. We the people, black & white, need to over come them and get back on tract, bind together and take our country back.

          • madbro411

            Wow, I dont know where to start with you…The democrats that espoused the segregationist/jim crowe policies left the democratic party to create the dixi-crats and then became republicans. So it is now the republicans who are in charge of the oppression of the Black community, The laws enacted to keep Blacks “in their place” came from white legislators, keeping people from voting, wages low, etc. Tell me how that is helping someone to succeed. My father was not allowed to take college prep course. He was told he was only allowed to take shop classes in high school. Drafted in the army and not allowed to eat at roadside diners but can fight and die for this country. The government is not always the bad guy, sometimes its the racist members of the government make set the conditions for people to fail.The KKK has become educated at least the ones that dont wear the hoods anymore. The others are wearing three-piece suits and in corporate America and government.

          • GianniP

            Go back to kiddie skool. What’s mentioned is the relative percentage, not the gross number.

          • livelol

            Wow, you’re bright

          • GianniP

            Thank you. I’m a statistician so it just goes with the territory

          • livelol

            So am I, so I guess it goes with MY territory too! Unless we both went to Kiddie Skool.

          • Crystal Car

            But if we cut our population size down it would be a smaller percentage. Blacks make up 38 percent of all welfare recipients, whites make up 38 percent. If we cut down the white population to match the black population we would have a lessor percentage. You have to look at the population size. I love how blacks are defending this though. I think next time they build a house near mine I will reject it claiming it will attract to many minorities to our area… Oh wait that would be racist. Idiots.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            because white people have more money.. because slavery.. what is your point Crystal?

          • Crystal Car

            They do not you dip. I am a poor white person that goes to work everyday to continue being poor. Any money made off slavery is long gone. Name one white person who is where they are because their ancestor owned slaves. You can’t because there aren’t any. White people have been handed the short end of the stick. You know my husband couldn’t go to college because he couldn’t get enough aide, yet they have special aide for a black person. They have groups defending black rights, but God forbid we started a white rights movement. OH MY GOD the world would end if we demanded to have equal benefits. Black people need to do what I have done. Get a job, continue getting the help you need but try to work your way up. I don’t qualify for help yet I don’t have it as easy as these people on welfare. They don’t have to worry about food, shelter, or money. It’s provided. I have an allowance every to spend on food, and it is not much. White people do not have more money, more white people work that’s my point.

          • LonnyG773

            You sound bitter towards a race of people for no reason at all when the real problem is yourself. Take a look in the mirror and evaluate what your doing wrong, then fix it. If you’re living hand to mouth struggling at a job you don’t want to be in then that is a reflection of YOU. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with responsibility. I’m getting tired of people constantly playing the victim card all the time. Blacks included, but mainly poor white complainers such as yourself. Blacks have to deal with racism and bigotry, what the heck do you have to deal with? You made those choices in life, deal with it. Be an adult, suck it up and make better decisions if you’re not happy with where you’re at. PERIOD. Quit blaming others for your problems. Stop whining. Hard work pays off. The reason why this country is where its at now is because everyone wants to blame others for their failures and constantly play the victim. If thats how you deal with life than I’m sorry, but your at where your at because of YOU, not no one else and I nor anyone else other than your supporting internet trolls have any sympathy for you.

          • Crystal Car

            Lonnie did you see what I was responding to? He stated white people have more money because they own slaves. I am not bitter, I am enrolled in college to change my life, but I will not let anybody tell me white people have more money because they own slaves. Read the above comments before you assume things.

          • LonnyG773

            That guy was responding to another pointless comment you made earlier. I never assumed anything. You’ve been complaining about nothing throughout this whole entire article.

          • Crystal Car

            Lonny again I point to your idiocy. I was stating statistics, you seem to be the only racist idiot here. Guess we can’t win ‘em all some people never learn…

          • Will Workforf Ood

            your in denial if you think you are simply stating statistics Crystal.

          • LonnyG773

            Real quick, just like so many others, to call someone a racist yet your on here trashing black people and using statistics to prove what? Hypocritical much? Seriously, if your not racist, excuse me, prejudice and you know this without a shadow of a doubt then why should what I say or what anyone else says bother you at all??? You have to prove nothing to nobody. Lack confidence much as well??? On top of that, why would you even be bothered about a group of African Americans boycotting a supermarket anyway? What the heck does that have to do with you if you’re such a great person???? Also, its one thing to point out statistics but its another to actually do research and study why those statistics exist in the first place. Your in college, put that General Dollar store money to use… You put up a homeless family of seven, bravo, I guess you deserve a metal or something huh??? You do kind things for people because you feel the need to help otherwise you look like your trying to be politically correct because you want people to like you. I come from the gutter, when I help others its from the heart because I’ve been there before and their skin color means nothing to me. Would you put up a black family or Hispanic family of 7 if they needed somewhere to stay??? Its easy to put up with people that have similarities to you. That’s nothing, but try actually getting to know and help those who you bash and have nothing in common with. And for the record, the black population on welfare has actually been decreasing since last decade while the white population has actually increased. It only increased during the recession… Google it… Also, Obama has nothing to do with that fact by the way.

          • Crystal Car

            Lonny, first off I was pointing out I do help and I do care about people in hard times by saying I took in a family of seven. Secondly I would help you or any other family in trouble. A child is a child no matter the skin color. FYI I rent a 2 bedroom home I have two kids and a husband, yet I help and I will continue to do so. I am not rich, but I share what I have. Now I have gone back and read up on this group. Unfortunately this article was purposely misleading. The amount of black people on welfare should be getting smaller. As a community we have all tried to make things right and equal. As always there are people out there who would incite anger and hate to justify their views (the author of this article for example) I am not nor will I ever be racist, it is not in me. I see skin color because come on it’s your color, but I don’t judge by it. I was once in the US army. On the last FTE I wasn’t going to make it back, if it wasn’t for the black man behind me I wouldn’t have. He pushed me, and I mean literally pushed me to keep me going. I will forever be thankful to him. Again this is to point out we are all the same regardless of color. Would any of my white counterparts do that? No they marched past me. He didn’t do it because of the color of his skin, he did it because he cared. I strive to be more like him as a person. Unfortunately this article was misleading, and I definitely should have looked into it. But I still stand by my post that percentage wise, even though there are more white people on welfare, the over all population would be a smaller percent.

          • LonnyG773

            I can see how this article can be misleading to some, but I was able to see why they were boycotting. Others weren’t and were quick to post their assumptions and negativity. That’s what I was defending and if I got a little rude towards you than I apologize about that. Keep doing what your doing and help others. That’s very commendable. Sometimes its hard to tell who’s with you and who’s against you in today’s society.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            that’s not what i said but i see you need a straw man to make your self look like your making sense. Slavery is why white people have always had more money in the US. Slavery is over and the white folks still have the money. look it up.

          • Crystal Car

            On top of this I was using my situation as an example. I am not complaining I am pointing out welfare is not a career try getting a job and working your way up. Hell with affirmative action you should be able to rise up quicker than me. No matter the credentials. LMAO Now please read above the comment before you assume I was insulting anybody.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Please provide a citation for your assertation. White people have more money. Here are some things you can look up up that are real. Black people get paid less. black people get hired less. Black people suffer more poverty and have for hundred of years. black people do more time for the same crime. These are statistically accurate modern truths.

            If you can’t see how it is that generations of enforced poverty was bad for black culture than you need to read some more history and comment less on the internet.

          • Dorothy

            Hundreds of years ahead of black people but you have the short end of the stick. Please tell me when in America white people were lynched just because they were white? Were there laws up until 1965 holding white people back? Were whites ever forced to sit in the back of the bus? How exactly do you have the short hand of the stick? Black people need that leverage because as a people blacks have been held back hundreds of years and did not benefit from this system that was built for white people to prosper. White people had hundreds of years to build a substantial financial life to be able to pass onto their ancestors. Black people did not have equal rights even back in the 60s and did not have the same job opportunities. Therefore how could a black parent afford college for their child or themselves if they could not get a job that pays well enough?? They couldn’t which is why blacks need special financial aide. And then no college equals even less job opportunities. Only now are blacks starting to get equal financial opportunities to fund for college in America

          • Crystal Car

            Dorothy it is not fair if a white person, whose parents make the same as a black persons, is given less because they are not of a certain background. Again they aren’t holding back the rich or well off, they are holding back the poor white man. I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand now is a different time. There are plenty of wealthy black people, not saying you still shouldn’t try, but it’s not like there isn’t a single black leader or wealthy black family. I am not hateful towards black people, but I never owned slaves, so why am I being held back? It was unfair what was done was horrendous. I know there are idiots out there who are racist (from every background and culture) and they are truly idiots. But as a community we have all moved forward, yeah things aren’t always fair. Woman still get paid less. I started a much more difficult job than a male co-worker and he started at a dollar more an hour, another I was doing the same job and he started at a dollar more an hour as well. So yeah we all know discrimination, and some of us are held back more than others. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for fair equal benefits. If you come from a poor family there should be help for you to attend college no matter the color, ethnic back ground, or sex.

          • livelol

            Imagine the contributions the descendants of these people could have made: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa,_Oklahoma

          • nynetguy

            You’re an idiot.
            When a group which makes up only 17% of the overall population accounts for almost 40% of welfare recipients that means a disproportionately larges size of that group is taking up welfare.
            Go back to school and actually learn the math this time.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            but welfare is for the poor.. and there are more poor black people so that makes sense.

          • Pablo E. Lopez

            lolol don’t come in here making sense…somebody brain is gonna pop lol

          • LittleRoot_48

            Thank you for proving my point in my reply to lsb_11.

          • livelol

            You really should not brag about the statistic. with your historical advantage, you should really account for next to 0%

          • Crystal Car

            Yes but if you cut the population size down it would no longer be 38% percent of white people on welfare. It is 38 percent of the population it is 38 percent of the over all welfare recipients.

          • pat ange

            It is not 38% of the population, it is 38% of the total # of people on welfare. Two entirely diffrent things. Duh.

          • Artur Krejčík

            Common, you better stay quiet, it will promote your cause better.-

          • Vance 4: 26

            When was the last time you listen to Al Sharton?

          • VioletsMike

            Do you ever check your mouth before you release or utter an incomplete sentence…The reason blacks have separated themselves from whites is right in front of you on these threads…read them and see how it reveals the hate…

          • Bobloblaw67

            Now let’s really have fun. A white is 39x more likely to be murdered by a black than a black is by a white.

          • moodyjudi

            And a black is FAR more likely to be murdered by another black. No wonder they can’t get along with us–they can’t even get along with each other!!!!!

          • jerome h.

            They still don’t get it when you break (dance) it down. How can a lower percentage mean more people? That’s what I was asked!

          • Poodleguy

            I would love to see racist Al’s head on a stake………..not because he is black but because he is bad for this nation & damages the black sheep who follow him. He or Jesse Jackson would be broke nothings if they don’t keep racism alive.
            The real victims here are the black community they keep on the plantation by those who lead them………….

          • petem

            if population is 1 million and blacks are 14% and whites 72%, blacks equal 140000 people, whites 720000. lets say 40 percent of blacks =64000. 40 % of whites =288000. That’s how math works for all you super intelligent white folk.Love when whites walk into that one;

          • Lawrence Dean

            Al Sharpton is one sorry sad racist.

          • chavonlev

            BULLSH*T!!!!!!

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            dude is telling the truth

          • FedUp

            Truth hurts doesn’t sister

          • livelol

            38% of a larger population is more not less.

          • Shlomo

            38% of welfare recipients are white, not 38% of whites are on welfare.

            Now I know why everyone says blacks are stupid.

          • Estella Cohen

            It still adds up to more white folks on welfare than Blacks. Blacks only make up 12% of the pop. of the U.S.,but a large number of the poor.

          • Bobloblaw67

            Great. A jew who can’t do math.

          • Estella Cohen

            …and white trash who doesn’t know any better.

          • DPrint

            If the total population was 1,200. 864 are white and 168 are black. If 300 if the total population are on welfare and both black and white make up 38%-that’s 114 people for each race. Therefore more blacks out of their race of 168 people are on welfare.

          • Jon Hawk

            Uhmm you might want to go back and read that again smart one…that is not how it was presented…it actually stated that out the total population of the USA 77% are white and 38% of those are on welfare…and that total population of blacks is around 13-15% and 38% of those are on welfare.

          • Bobloblaw67

            I read it clearly. It is 38% of those on welfare are black. 38.6% of those on welfare are white. In raw numbers the there are an equal number of whites and blacks on welfare. Since blacks are 13% of the population and whites 70% of the population blacks are roughly 5 times more likely to use welfare. I can’t believe the lack of math and reading comprehension skills.

          • Estella Cohen

            Shlomo just doesn’t get it. If you know the saying ,”if you believe a lie so long….” My friends in the south who are experiencing snow for the first time in ages say that white folks are claiming it really isn’t snow. My grandpa use to say[jokingly]” While we’re asleep white folks are thinking about something else crazy to do or say”.” Remember the source when they speak.”

          • moodyjudi

            What a stupid thing to say. Why aren’t you out protesting Kerry and his sanctions against Israel? Why are you supporting an agenda that is anti Jew? You really are stupid. I bet you voted Obozo too. SMDH.

          • Estella Cohen

            Because I’m not a Jew. “What a stupid thing to say”. Why aren’t you protesting…hey wait…you are to stupid making presumptions. One thing about trash you always know when it’s around ’cause it sure is ugly and smells. LOL

          • Estella Cohen

            I thought this conversation was about “Trader Joe’s? How did it turn so hateful so fast for nothing? People have a right to have the type of stores they want in their communities. P.S.What makes you think I’m a Jew? Because of the last name I’ve used? Wake up preppie!! LMAO.

          • Jon Hawk

            TY finally someone does the Math Correctly..geez wtf are they teaching kids in school nowdays

          • James Martin

            38 + 38.6 = 76.6 from 100 leaves 23.4% of welfare. 14% + 72% = 86% leaving 14%(hispanic?) of the population so
            Blk14% receives 38% of welfare. Hispanic14% receives 23.4% of welfare. Wht72% receives 38.6% of welfare

          • livelol

            He said 38% of the population. Do you know that 42% of the people receiving welfare also work full time jobs (minimum wage jobs), so they are the working poor and 20% are the elderly? How about spending as much time kicking the rich business owners as you do the poor working class.

          • James Martin

            He did not say 38 percent of the population. Here is a copy and paste to help you out. > That is actually incorrect. Blks are 38% and whts are 38.6% of welfare by race. If you break it down by population, more blks are on welfare considering blks are only 14% of the total pop and whts are 72% of pop. Meaning mathematically blks are the highest of all races collecting welfare. By the way Baiter, nothing I wrote was derogatory.

          • Jon Hawk

            Wow where did you learn math..since when is 38% more than 38.6 % ? and if blacks are only 14% of the pop and whites are 72%..then whites would be more not less…duh put on your dunce cap now

          • Bobloblaw67

            You’re a f ing idiot. Math and reading challenged. The guy you’re responding to is right, you’re wrong

          • Corpseman57

            I don’t want to kick the “rich business owners.” (They work hard for their money and take all the risk.) The ones who deserve the blame are the libprog politicians.

          • GoodBusiness

            How does that work? Numbers are wrong – only 1.6% of the working people earn the minimum wage or less?

            More Progressive math – just say any number you like and act like it is real.

            Remember Clinton’s favorite number was 100,000 – new teachers – new cops on the streets – new nurses. Now Obama is using the same numbers – none of them ever happen but the media can not count either.

          • FedUp

            That’s what they do….make stuff up and the low info population soak it up like a sponge without bothering to check the facts for themselves

          • Linda McDonald

            We’re not discussing what percentage of a race receives welfare, we WERE discussing WHICH RACE RECEIVES MORE and that race, by a whopping.6% is the white one!! Got it?! Good, lets move on!

          • Hames Cpep

            Please tell me you aren’t that stupid!??? Pleaseeeeeee….of course when white people outnumber black people 8 to 1 there is going to be more on welfare. Percentages are all that matters in this conversation. Do you understand. If there were 10 black people in a room 7 of them would be on welfare. If there were 10 white people in a room 3 of them would be on welfare. Is that simple enough for you. Mathematical rules state this is the way IT HAS TO BE DONE. You don’t get to change the rules of LOGIC!!! God you are pathetic.

          • Matt

            She IS that stupid.

          • Corpseman57

            She certainly is tenacious, though. Let’s move her to the head of the Useful Idiot line.

          • Jon Hawk

            Uhmmm wtf are talking about…this has nothing to do with the original statement…wtf is 7 0f 10 and 3 of 10 and it has to be that way?? You need to do your math over again cause obviously you lost it somewhere

          • Jon Hawk

            I do not know where you get your math rules from but you need to go back and tell whoever taught you that , that they are a absolute moron

          • moodyjudi

            She IS that stupid–she voted for Obozo– twice!!!!!

          • Shlomo

            If you are saying what race receives more it is blacks, Half of their entire race is no welfare.

          • Jon Hawk

            Wrong….if you have 100% of welfare – 38% of that 100% are Black and 38.6% of that 100% are White – then you have more Whites on welfare..it is simple math no matter which way you add it.

          • Bobloblaw67

            So now you finally got it. The raw absolute number of whites and blacks on welfare is roughly the same. If there were 100 people on welfare 38 would be black and 38.6 would be white.

          • psychenudity

            Thank You for being that shining example of Liberal Mental Illness

          • Jon Hawk

            She may be a liberal but she knows math and obviously you do not..and that is sad for our side because of morons like you

          • Bobloblaw67

            No she doesn’t.

          • psychenudity

            Lol! Who said anything about “math”? Nice try

          • Corpseman57

            Let’s give the blacks a little more time. Uncontrolled breeding will increase their numbers, which will increase their welfare usage.

          • Basil Malik

            thank god we have the palins as an example of uncontrolled breeding

          • moodyjudi

            What a retarded thing to say! At least the Palins pay for their children with their OWN money that they WORKED for and are not sucking the public teat expecting us to support them!!! WHAT A MORON YOU ARE.

          • Basil Malik

            what an asinine bigoted moron you are do some effing research..l One Palin isnt working hard dick wads.. She has been using her pac funds routinely which is illegal.. the income she does earn is to continue to lie, distort and eff up factual information so dim witted lazy ass wipes like you will do what ever they need to enrich them. secondly, the number of white folk on the dole out number blacks. Period. Your group is lazy looking for handouts whether its welfare, foodstamps, tax credits, developement grants, social security, farm subsidies, corporations that pay no taxes or big oil.. the lot of you look for free money any and every chance you get.. .then heres the funny part. attempt to look down at a group of people as if their the ones getting all the government. Wake the eff up. Read a effing book gain some freeking moral accountability for your lot and then throw stones

          • eaglestalon

            LOL, My GOD you are one stupid Liberal!!!

          • Jon Hawk

            You need to learn math..she may be a liberal but she is correct in her math..more whites are on it than blacks at this point and time…number wise or % wise

          • eaglestalon

            Dude, you are hopeless.

            The TOTAL NUMBER OF PERSONS collecting welfare according to this analysis are comprised equally of Whites and Blacks (38.6% vs 38%). Got that?

            If that total number were as an example 100 people we would say 38 were black and 38 were white. BUT since the TOTAL population of the country is made up of about 14% Black and 86% White (and other) it is easy to see the number of blacks on welfare is totally out of whack with their representation of the population as a whole.

            Got it? The actual NUMBER of whites and blacks on welfare may be equal but each number taken as a % of that groups overall representation in the population tells a totally different story.

          • Bobloblaw67

            Correct. People who can’t see what you’re saying are the reason the USA has lost it’s competitive edge. 50 years ago every 8th grader would have gotten this math problem. Today half the people here don’t get it.

          • moodyjudi

            IF there are, and I am not agreeing with you since I do not have the facts and figures to check for myself—IF there are more white people on welfare, I can pretty well guarantee they are getting less money than the blacks or hispanics. We don’t usually have 5 or 6 kids. I have been to the AFDC office, and I see them pregnant with a couple toddlers, pushing another baby in a stroller. They don’t WANT to get off welfare,so they squeeze out a new kid each year to fatten the check! This is because they are lazy useless pieces of crap!!!

          • Sharon

            Stupid is as stupid does.

          • Jon Hawk

            Then stop being stupid

          • Sharon

            Whatever, Sparky.

          • Memphomaniac

            Sorry Linda. You Don’t get to change the rules, mid stream. I do believe you truly understand the FACTS, you simply wish to keep drinking the Kool-Aide. That’s ok, babe. Enjoy, as your Country falls apart around you.

          • Kibber_SF

            From what I have read it is you morons who are changing the “rules”.. it was you morons who brought total population into the equation when it has nothing to do with the percentages and data Linda has used doing your “reaganomics” and you will get false numbers

          • Memphomaniac

            A slap at “Reaganomics?” Just gave away your bias. More Kool-aide? (SHEEPLE.)

          • Kibber_SF

            Don’t feel special. I dislike the DNC as much as the GOP as BOTH of the “great two” have phoqued us over for decades..and it’s easy to take a “slap” at something that doesn’t work and never has anywhere, ever…bah bah little comrade sheople…

          • Bobloblaw67

            Your math skills suck.

          • Herman Vogel

            The MATH, The MATH,,stop it,,my head is exploding…LMAO

          • Doug

            Same as all that double voting.

          • Linda McDonald

            If whites are receiving 38.6% of welfare, that would mean they are receiving MORE than blacks, at only 38%. Can you do math? How many blacks and white exist in the world isnt the point here or question. Possibly whites are the worst at math compared to asians???? Hmmmmm…?

          • Henry

            Why do you hate White people?

          • Corpseman57

            Jealousy.

          • Henry

            Good answer.

          • Basil Malik

            why would any black person ever be jealous of a white person.. Blacks have shown over and over again present an even playing field and we will excel period. Thats why its so important for scum baggers like you to hold on to misinformation and stereotypes than anyone with common sense can see are lies. You need to feel entitled, priviledged and better but reality dictates you are not.

          • Lisa Wiese

            Listen, it is not about the numbers, it is about the people, if you have 100 white people in a room, and 30 of them are on welfare, bad, if you have a room full of 100 black people, 70 of them are on welfare, that is awful, no matter how you see it, yes more whites use welfare, But at the same time more whites pay for welfare, because more whites do not use welfare than blacks. In a place as great as America, none of us should have to survive on welfare at all, if it wasn’t for our crooked, good for nothing politicians! And Basil affirmative action is not an even playing field, Neither is black scholarships, black colleges, or minority based mortgages, we already saw where that got us. Until the black community gives up all the perks they get, because they are ‘too weak and picked on, to do it on their own’, there is no even playing field, so shut it already, smh

          • Basil Malik

            wooosh you people… wtf does affirmative action have to do with anything.. and why do u people refuse to admit there wouldnt be a need for affirmative action if you werent so hateful. 2) seeing how a was a banker in the 2000′s explain to me again what minority loans did? Its a shame it only takes one white person to say a lie to justify their wrong doing and the rest of you will rest your heads on it meanwhile the whites keep robbing from you. But please explain.

          • Basil Malik

            i see your an unhappy illinformed misguided one arent you… thats ok… all of you will be little petty hateful minority soon.

          • moodyjudi

            HA HA HA! REALLY? KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT!

          • SusieQ

            Linda, The black population is smaller than the white population so as a group they receive more welfare than whites. If the black pop. and the white pop. were the same then your theory would be correct.

          • eaglestalon

            Give it up SusieQ. You are trying to explain simple math to someone who has a problem feeding herself and tying her shoes.

          • Jon Hawk

            Wrong answer – if one group of people is larger than another…then more people of the larger group would be on welfare..not of the smaller one…do math plz

          • blacksacrednight

            Jon, it seems that you are having a hard time grasping the fact that the correct application of math is to see that of the entire group of all people on welfare 38.6% of this group is white and 38% of this group is black. Roughly 8% of our population receives some type of public assistance. Therefore, within this group of about 29.9 million Americans, the number of whites receiving welfare in America equals about 11.66 million people while the blacks receiving welfare equals 11.36 million people. Of 223.56 million white people, 11.66 million are on welfare (about 5%). Of the 38.93 million black people in America, 11.36 million are on welfare (about 29%).
            Please do not think this to be a slam on all the folks who have to rely upon public assistance. The reasons for black people is highly complicated. Much of it is because of the lack of trust and acceptance of them in the workforce by those in power. Thank God this is changing. Another reason for this is the governments’ assault upon their community through the “Great Society” programs initiated by Lyndon Baines Johnson.

          • LtRuss

            You are just as bad as Linda McDonald

          • Beverly Golato

            Give it up, Linda. Stop talking because when you don’t talk people only think you are empty headed when you open your mouth you prove it.

          • Nurse56

            She’s not empty headed, it’s that her head is full of wrong “facts”.

          • Corpseman57

            Your cognitive skills are lacking. It takes intelligence to extrapolate meaningful data, rather than jumping to a simplistic conclusion.

          • GoodBusiness

            How do you continue on this line of thinking? You are making Progressives look like uneducated dolts – Which Liberal arts did you attend? Which Social Study major did you pursue?

          • gomurr

            Now you’re just being stupid. Admit it and move on.

          • Kibber_SF

            You will never get these racists to admit that out of every 100 people on welfare 38.6 are white compared to 38 black. There are MORE white bodies on welfare than black bodies! A whole .6 of a person MORE!!!
            These idiots want to ADD items into the existing equation to make their math work. They can not deal with actual facts as that has been proven over and over to the birthers…

          • RobertNorwood

            But, you leave out what proportion of the population they represent. More of a smaller population on welfare is nothing to brag about.

          • Kibber_SF

            It is a nonfactor, that means it doesn’t matter. The conversation was not about total population, it was about percentage of race is ON welfare and that is all

          • RobertNorwood

            I suppose nothing matters. Benghazi does not matter, IRS abuses do not matter, lying does not matter, over reaching government power used to matter but somehow now it does not. 1984 was like a liberal gospel at one time, how ironic it is here and the liberal “progressive” democrats have brought it. Freedom of speech and religion mattered but it’s under attack and in a culture where refusing to pay for someone’s free birth control pills amounts to a war on women and that should really matter. In a culture where nothing matters perhaps it is best to
            smoke pot and just forget about it, that way if Nancy Pelosi is re-elected folks can just have a goof on it. And Hillary,. it doesn’t matter, even a lying snake like her is preferable to what’s in the White House now. Pretty sad but what the fuch.

          • Kibber_SF

            Take your meds and go lie down, the grown ups are talking…follow the conversation

          • RobertNorwood

            Figures you’d go in that direction. The usual retreat in the face of a glaring and inconvenient truth.
            If you want me to take some meds and lie down you’ll have to share yours.

          • Kibber_SF

            No, that’s the direction I take when I am dealing with someone who has nothing of substance to add to the EXISTING conversation

          • RobertNorwood

            You know, I don’t care. You folks can go on believing the screwed up things you believe. If those folks don’t want a Trader Joes, don’t want white folks around then fine. You are responsible for your own failure. If they ain’t figured they can use their food stamps and EBT cards there who cares. Sorry I mentioned jobs as in working there, must have sent shock waves through community.

          • Basil Malik

            Please read a book.. read a book.. or transcript of testimony in either of the cases but read.

          • RobertNorwood

            Well, academically Asians are at the top. Not sure where we are, 3rd if we are lucky.

          • Fige Bornu

            Get your stupid facts str8. White global corporations are the biggest welfare queens on the block.

          • david

            I see the another stupid comment again. wow you really are stupid are you not chimply. face it black get more welfare they do less. fact is there work is subpar. and SAT score prove there are less intelligent facts are facts. and corporations do not collect welfare they contribute into the funds the poor tap into.

          • RasMike Wilmeth Cmt

            Welfare is just a plan to keep poor docile so they don’t rise up and overthrow the masters. Its the corporate welfare state thats the real issue. This is stolen land ,built on the blood of the black man woman and child and after slavery ,blacks owned no land ,had nowhere to go and had to work for the same bastards who enslaved them. Then segregation brought project housing and poverty.After that the CIA flooded the ghettos w cocaine then crack and made laws to enslave users n sellers of the drug they brought. .
            Loans for college and homes were/are denied,or givin at inflated rates ,further assuring the status quo .Well fare smell fair.Till Black people own land, malls, car manufacturer plants, Electric and gas/oil companies,cruise lines and cell phone satellites dont say shits fair. Name 1 black owned company on that level! There isnt nor has there ever been 1.

          • Rodney Ray

            You are one seriously stupid racist.

          • Steve Stribley

            Obama obviously owns the government. Too bad he’s too greedy to do anything for anyone but himself. Maybe try hitting up Oprah. She might give you one of her businesses. NOT! Get off your ass and earn it bozo. You won’t get ahead crying “Poor me”.

          • eaglestalon

            Hey RasMike? Is it true you use a dildo as a pacifier?

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            blacks weren’t the only slaves people gosh. the chinese were slaves at the same time. who do you think built the majority of the railroads today the freaking chinese. yet they are not crying over it they did what you are supposed to do once you get a chance to lift yourself up do it. the chinese and japanese own a lot of property in san fran. driving benz beamers bentleys lambos yet what are they not doing complaining they are working their freaking asses off to get ahead.

          • Henry

            Get a job, work hard and buy a business.Or are you to lazy?

          • moodyjudi

            OH, BOO HOO. CRY ME A RIVER, BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!!

          • Pamela K. Cahoon Laub

            Many of the white people now on welfare and food stamps can thank BHO and the ACA.

          • GinAZ

            I stand corrected.

          • Myrtle Linder

            Good heavens!! They have that many more than we do on welfare?? No wonder we are raving so about the blacks receiving welfare.

          • TruthHurts

            Thank you. I said the same thing but added more stuff they choose to ignore.

          • Vance 4: 26

            I guess you just you’ve shown mathmatically that “most” African Americans are NOT on welfare like Douglas Howell claims. Here is another fact you may wanna know….and keep this one quite. Are you listening? Black People make up more than 14% of the country’s population. Shssssss, dont tell anyone.

          • whthfk1

            Facts and truth are useless on the liberal mindset.

          • pepjrp

            Stop with the facts, you are hurting Montely’s head. Plus the racist Alternator General Eric Holder will have his goons find you.

          • David Mathewson

            Amen brother!! @ Isb_11

          • Jon Hawk

            Agreed

          • JPHtx

            Good answer,but I doubt any progressive fool will understand

          • Mike Rice

            The problem with that is that all welfare recipients enter the system under the same eligibility criteria. Second , the US population numbers are only relevant if the full population was eligible and/or receiving benefits. We know that’s not the case. Out of 100% of welfare resources 38.6% is consumed by whites and 38.6 by blacks. In regard to the overall population with blacks being 14% and whites being 72%(posted numbers) you can factually say that the ratio of blacks in relation to their population percentage is higher. What you cannot say factually (mathematically or otherwise) is that there are “more blacks” on welfare than whites. For example, whether the ratio is 2:10 , 2:10,00 , or 2:10,000,000 you’re still only discussing 2 families. A higher ratio does not equate to a higher head count of recipients, more blacks collecting welfare or “the highest of all races collecting welfare”.

          • Reader

            At least one person understands math. Most of these racists didn’t pursue education beyond highschool so critical thinking and basic computation elude them.

          • Bob Jones

            Actually, ISB, you are wrong. Blacks have a higher percentage within their race on welfare than do Whites. However, numerically, there are more White people on welfare than there are Blacks. Read a little!!!

          • Barry Marcellin

            What is your source… website please.

          • Wiley Brooks-Martin

            You are using twisted logic. The size of the population, when taken separately, has nothing to do with it. 38% is 38%, period. You can’t compare the numbers like that, especially when the populations are unequal. In order for there to be less of the White population to be on welfare, the percentage of the white population would have to be less than 38%. That is the reason the percentages are compared rather than the numerical representation of the population. For example, if the Black population is represented by the number 100, and the White population is represented by the number 1,000, 38% if the Black population would be 38 verses 38% of the White population which would be 380. Looking at it that way is not a fair representation because of the unequal populations. That is the reason the comparisons are based on the percentage of the population rather than the number representation. Therefore, 38.6% of Whites on welfare verses 38% of Blacks on welfare means there are 6 tenths of a percent more Whites on welfare. Period.

          • Guest

            Have you been to any schooling of any kind?

          • kjenkinsaf

            Ooh, math hahd. Head huurt. You raciss.

          • Jason Skitz

            I can tell you first hand I work with DHS, and while in their office it is more blacks and hispanics then it is anything else. 99% of those white people who are on welfare have babies by the dead beat black men,

          • GianniP

            I checked. Your math is correct.

          • darkangel

            You are a complete moron!!! if 38.6% of the largest group (70%) is on welfare then you are obviously the problem!!! Lol… you are such an idiot it’s funny… 38% of 14% of the pop. isn’t as large a number. dummy!!! #whitemanlogic

          • Charisa White

            R U COUNTING 1/2 BREEDS?

          • Sara Mickelson-Castillo

            Well, whites are actually 77% of the US population. There are 128,000 more black people on welfare than white. They are only the highest collecting welfare because of the fact that white people are only 128,000 people shy of welfare. That is a TINY percent of people, considering only 4.1% of the entire population is on welfare. I honestly believe that in some places today, white people are still hired over black people.. It could be for a variety of reasons, but white people have been and are always viewed as powerful. It is stereotypical, but it is true! White people have more opportunities because of it. To say that they are the highest recipients due to their own faults is wrong. It is the society’s fault and it needs to change, like many other things. I honestly don’t see anything wrong with denying a large chain to move in, but as for the reason, their decision seems harsh. However, the people are entitled to deny Trader Joe’s for whatever reason they want. I’m glad Trader Joe’s did the right thing and respected their wishes. RARE thing for companies to do in this day and age!

          • Nomad

            Your math is way off. Your numbers are correct, but I don’t know how you think that means there are more Black people on welfare. If White people are ~72% of the pop. and Black people are ~14%, then according to your percentages of people on welfare (which are about the same, percentage wise), the actual number of White people on welfare FAR exceeds that of Black people. So sorry, you’re dead wrong in your assumptions.

          • Dean
          • PeachPie

            New math.

          • Alemeyehu Elias

            if your gong to make a statement using math you first need to know what the hell your talking about, cause all your numbers pointed out is that whites are a larger portion of welfare, while yes, your numbers show that a larger portion of the black community is on welfare, it doesn’t say that blacks are the largest recipients of welfare…although you are to stupid to notice it, you said it in your own statement…38% black and 38.6% white…even the 5 year olds that i work with know that 38.6 is larger than 38, but obviously your pathetic redneck brain can’t pick up on that one…

          • jerome h.

            See, now you’re trying to argue with facts and to explain the intricacies of percentages….are you insane??

          • Southern Hospitality

            You are totally off.

            Example:

            Lets say there are 100 blacks.
            50% of 100 is 50

            Lets say there are 1,000 whites.
            50% of 1,000 is 500.

            So if you are telling me that Whites make up for more of the population (the 1,000) and 38.6% of Whites in this country are on welfare, then IN FACT MORE WHITES ARE ON WELFARE THAN BLACKS as my example proves.

          • Todd Grimmett

            That doesn’t make sense at all mathematically that is. Georgia Tech Class of 1999 and Black FYI. 38% of 14% is a smaller number than 38.6% of 72%. Not to mention none of this has anything to do with the article. I do not agree with the development corporation’s stance at all but I also don’t agree with Trader Joes not working with the development corporation to show their excellent track record bringing affordable local produce and farm raised meats to inner cities. Its a shame.

          • Sherrod Brown

            NOW I will make a monkey of this stupid view. if there are 6 blacks on the planet, and ALL are on welfare , but welfare has 100,000 people of all the other races on it, Saying “BLACKS ARE AT 100% and whites are LESS” is stupid…THE ISSUE WITH WELFAIR IS THE AMOUNT on it, not the PERCENTAGE…all the PERCENTAGE SHOWS is how the dominating race has been successful in being the BIAS JOB CREATORS….So..this shop? would have brought jobs…they should have let it happen. HOWEVER…we need to see something as well.. This is a CORPORATION DRIVEN country now…so the idea of Small store front assistance? is over, and we as black people need to see this reality as well as whites.

          • curmudgeon

            AMEN!

          • GeeGee Conn

            Mathematically speaking, 38.6% is still higher.

          • Xavier Oglesby

            True, but of the 38% of blacks on welfare, all are eligible based on income… White folks on the other hand, only 22 % of recipients qualify for the benefits… Which means, wait for it…. the rest of yall are cheating the system… BUMS>>> lol Remember, the unemployment rate is higher in the Black community… Which means…. wait for it… The only way for the govmt to quantify these numbers.. wait for it… .. is because those black folks would have had to be looking for work at the UEMLOYMENT OFFICE… If they have not worked they would have no need to register for unemployment and therefore could not be counted… You are STUID as well

          • noneed45

            Ibs11 the school you went to needs to be burned and your math teach shot because your math equation makes no sense 38.6> 38.
            72> 14 . You can’t get a % of a number that’s there example, you can’t go into 14% of a larger number to get 38% you can only get a fraction of 14% . But if you believe what you say it’s true you can’t teach stupid

          • LittleRoot_48

            Watch out lsb_11. You are getting into “hard” math that may be beyond Montely Wilson’s capability.

          • pevans1

            Dude, your asking a retarded liberal to do math… they don’t have the brain power!

          • Nik

            Bullshit. White ppl aint never been the majority from day 1. You cant outnumber the ppl that created you! Secondly, it shouldnt matter the color skin, its their community and they dont want it tHEN SHUT THE HELL up and move along! Its that simple. All racist ppl kill me white or black do yourself and the world a favor, go fly a kite!

          • Poodleguy

            True, but the comment ‘most of them are on welfare’ is nothing but racist slander that does not reflect the heart of the conservative…………….

          • Steve Wolfe

            And that’s why Workfare didn’t work, because they wouldn’t.

          • petem

            if population is 1 million and blacks are 14% and whites 72%, blacks equal 140000 people, whites 720000. lets say 40 percent of blacks =64000. 40 % of whites =288000. That’s how math works for all you super intelligent white folk.

          • Rayvyn007

            But the vast majority of blacks are not on welfare, they work. Tell me what the number of blacks is that are on welfare and how many of them are in the USA. You guys just don’t get it, you have it fixed in your mind that blacks are freeloaders when the vast majority aren’t.

          • More4les

            You are the ignorant one. From now on I’m going to do the same thing… protest anything that will bring more blacks into my community.

          • Anti-liberal

            You can’t because that would be racist. white people can not exclude blacks or other races for any reason but blacks can exclude everyone else because according to Al Sharpton you have to be white in order to qualify as a racist.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            that’s why al sharpton is an idiot cause anyone can be racist. look at the black muslim splinter group. they are super racist against whites like the kkk against blacks. hell they aren’t even consider real muslims by other muslims because islam doesn’t tolerate racism

          • livelol

            Ishmael, I certainly hope you are on payroll because you are working it man!

          • Basil Malik

            ???? Al sharpton.. is that the best you have.. NOI is a splinter group? Hope your brain doesnt explode soon.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            huh? what are trying to say? i think you brain exploded trying to come up with something to say cause you know the comment is the truth. MLK would crush Al Sharpton comments as being racist same with reverend jackson. Macolm X came from the Hajj with true knowledge and realized that MLK was right and duly apologized to him and joined his cause. please don’t respond because it will be laughingly weak that won’t be worth my response.

          • Basil Malik

            post Hajj Malcom and MLk can go to hell they’re both dead and havent said anything in 50 yrs! The reality is the Civil rights movement set blacks back centuries because the fight was about assimilation and being able to eat with other folk but it didnt garner any respect. All it did was create resentment and closet racists seething and foaming at the mouth at the thought of blacks as a people progressing and taking their share of the American dream. NOw they feel entitled to hate out loud and there are folks perhaps like you that would rather schuck, jive and bojangle then to demand these dim wittted twits treat you with the respect you deserve based on your merits and not some backwoods bigot speak articulated by racists.

          • Basil Malik

            its a shame all you sad hateful people live, exist and call yourselves american. The point of their refusal is something that would effect anybody of any color. The ability to afford to live in the area at an affordable rate would no longer be possible as rental costs and purchase prices would price too many out of their own neighborhood. This has happened to many a white person this past decade and your tired hateful asses cant see the victory in not allowing that to happen there.

          • Linda McDonald

            I think everybody should just stop making stupid ignorant remarks. It doesnt matter which race receives more welfare, one does, does it, really?! Perhaps that race just needs more opportunities!!

          • Aykuang Saepharn

            That is the dumbest thing you have said so far. race has nothing to do with opportunity. it’s lazy people that don’t go out there and find the opportunities.

          • Basil Malik

            smh.. it hurts to see stupidity and ignorance at this level. Many working poor (those working 40hr weeks) are on food stamps because while you derail them you have no problem with corporations refusing to pay living wages, You are subsidizing corporate greed and somehow those receiving food stamps are the enemy. wake up. Please just wake and then do something.

          • Rodney Ray

            More opportunities like having Trader Joe’s want to build a huge store there, which would bring in tons of jobs for the Black community? Obviously they don’t want opportunity, that would mean they would have to give up free welfare and actually have to work for a living.

          • Jamie Mason

            Jobs are for suckaz.

          • moodyjudi

            Exactly!!!

          • eaglestalon

            Intelligent people will ignore you, liberal, until you admit here on the forum you are as stupid as a bag of dog sh*t.

          • Shlomo

            45% of people on welfare are black, Whites make up 76% of the countries population, Blacks make up less than 15%. There is a problem with the black community.

          • Basil Malik
          • Jim Britt

            Montely Wilson: you are a bigoted fool! There are 3 times as many whites show there SHOULD be more whites on welfare yet PERCENTAGE WISE there are twice as many blacks. Just show me ONE ALL WHITE ghetto in the USA, just one!!

          • Jim Britt

            39% of recipients are white, 37% are African American

          • Basil Malik

            There are pleanty of majority white gettoes dummy.. through the appalachians, west VA. Kentucky.. you must think really high of yourself and your people and thats honorable but there are an awful lot of you with missing teeth and sores inbreeding. http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19379/does-majority-white-and-majority-republican-owsley-county-have-the-highest-snap

          • moodyjudi

            Check out the Appalachian communities.

          • Corpseman57

            When the black population equals that of whites, then YOU will understand percentages.

          • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

            And you can thank your half-white President for that. He is the one that refuses to reduce taxes, take a powder on Obamacare, and eliminate wasteful social spending that promotes “deadbeats”.

          • TruthHurts

            You don’t have clue. Based on population numbers, bIacks receive more welfare. Do you know what a ratio is? I didn’t think so. You want another fact? BIacks commit 50% of the homicides in this country and only represent 14% of the population. Here is another. Eighty-five percent of the violent crimes committed by bIacks are against whites. You want more? Blacks slaughter more blacks than any other races combined. If a white equivalent of an Al, or Jesse were to march, and stir up things, like every time a bIack kills a white person, or some hate crime, the bIacks would be out in force hollering racism. Nice double standard there. You people are the real racists now.

          • Basil Malik

            wow all your facts are wrong and mis interpreted.. get a life read the fbi stats for 2011.. murder rates are the same after adjusting for difference in population (that might be hard for you to understand) meanwhile whites lead just about every other category and rape, aduction, ad crimes against childrren at more than three times the rates of blacks. Now go ahead and brag about yourselves, lol.

          • Basil Malik

            Dumb ass ratio is not the total numeric value it is a freaking ratio.

          • JoJo58

            LOL. Liberal math. But, it’s good to be on welfare so you can spend more time with the family.

          • Steve Harmon

            In Portland? You’re referencing 1865? There were no food stamps in Portland Oregon at that time, were there. Just more typical liberal-lemming D-bag lies. I wouldn’t mind being around his “kind”, it’s your kind I have no use for. Perpetual victims. How about no more hyphenated Americans, just Americans? Do for yourself, build some self-esteem, stop begging. “Gimmee gimmee, I can’t make it on my own, income inequality, not fair, boo hoo, waaa waaa, someone help me, I’m too stupid to make it on my own. STOP!!!!

          • David Mathewson

            Ya, Montely Wilson, the reason there are more white people on welfare is because the US is comprised of 70% Caucasian, know your facts.

          • nynetguy

            Horseshit.
            Could you imagine the shitshow that would ensure if a white community fought a store because it would bring too many blacks to the area?
            Not only is the PAALF’s position racist it’s also stupid. They just chased away a good source of jobs.
            Talk about cutting your nose off AND shooting yourself in the foot.

          • LittleRoot_48

            If one group can say they don’t want to attract a certain group to their area, that “certain group” has the right to say the same thing about them. I’d say there’s plenty of racism in that neighborhood. They’ve been taking welfare money from white taxpayers all of their lives, but they don’t want white people coming to a grocery store in their neighborhood? As far as “ignorance” goes, I’d say there’s more than enough in that neighborhood when they want to keep a grocery store out simply because it might bring white people into the neighborhood.

          • Doug

            Only becasue there are more whites genius. There would be more black people but they keep aborting their offspring to appease their Dem masters.

          • Vance 4: 26

            I don’t know why they think whites are not on welfare. Oh I know why: because they let BizPac, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and that jerk O’really alone with FOX do all the thinking for them.

          • Troy Millay

            what the hell are you talking about. You wish to bring up a policy that was enacted at the end of the civil war that was a failure. And then make a statement that ever since this failed policy whites have been receiving gov’t assistance. Sir gov’t assistance has only been around since the 30′s in response to the great depression. I would be the first to admit that blacks in the past were hard working and even today you find a lot of good black people. BUT and this is a big but ( just the way you like’ m) the black youth of today as well as the black women in society are real issues. The kids grow up in a fatherless home while the women collect all and any gov’t asst. they can all the while setting a hugely bad example for the future black MEN and WOMEN . No one want to deal with most of the black race in todays society but they just wont balls up and admit it . Due to the loud bitchin nature of the race. This is not to say whites don’t have their problems but they are nothing compared to your race. And in the future do a little better research before you try to sound intelligent. Good racial epithet though!!

          • lestref

            Nice grammar. Putz.

          • muslimmustgo

            You can thank king turd for that!! And since the white race is approx 70% of the nation it stands that there would be more whites on benefits compared to a lower % of black population in the nation,but as a whole black participation in social benefits constitutes 80% of their population as compared to 30% of the white populations total participation!

          • Artur Krejčík

            It allways amaze me, the endless stupidity of people who can oppose themselves in a single statement

          • FAAQ2

            And Blacks are 12% of the population but 47% of the prison population -

          • chavonlev

            Y’all do it all the time. Like really, what are u saying right now?! Tuh

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Now that is bullshit!!! Quit playing the racist game and playing the victims here. You are victimizing yourselves. Move on we are over it and we have been for a long long time. Way before I was born!! Move on and do something with your life, help the people you love be what they want to be. Hating will not allow this to happen. You are drowning in hatred for no reason other than the fact you have been taught by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson that, that is your responsibility. All the while they are getting richer and richer while you bite their bait. Please stop this madness!!!

          • livelol

            Move on? You are over it? I guess you are over it. Funny no one ever tells the Jews to move on or get over it and blacks were slaves a lot longer than jews were in concentration camps. And it didn’t end with abolishing slavery….Jim Crow anyone?

          • Betty Lou Schwartz

            livelol– you just really don’t understand that you are hurting yourself by all this crap— You really should listen to yourself sometime– for people to turn down a much-needed grocery store in their area because it might bring in whites— omg GET OVER YOURSELVES!! people where trying to help the community– first, by giving them access to a local grocery, second– JOBS!!! , third- helping the economy of the community….and people are so blinded by hate and Al Sharpton and his ilk and political crap, that they cannot see REALITY!! It would have helped the neighborhood and the people of the neighborhood….wake up and quit shooting yourselves in the foot!

          • livelol

            Betty, I am not hurting myself at all. And you don’t know me well enough to have “listened to me sometimes” to know what I would hear if “I listened to myself stometiemes” That is not my community and I don’t follow Al Sharpton….so you should GET OVER YOURSELF and my foot is fine., but thanks

          • LtRuss

            If they would have let the store in to their community some of them would have had to go to work and then lose their welfare

          • Joe Upthegrove

            Were you a slave? Don’t like it here go on then. EVERY race has been enslaved. Hell every race is still enslaved by debt. I am white and I have to work two jobs and share a 3 bedroom with 3 other people because I can afford to live. I think people need to take care of themselves and stop looking for a fucking handout…

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Instead of fighting let me just ask…….what do you want?? What would it take to finally make the black communities vindicated?? Do you want land like the Native Americans?? Extra money each year, for what the slave owners did to your ancestors? I am Irish there was no one treated worse than the Irish when they came to America………..guess what?? I am over it!! My ancestors were tough hard working people they fought through their trials and achieved their goals. I strive each day to be strong and keep that strength in me that has run in my families blood from the beginning of time. Knowing what they went through and how they never gave up and became farmers and ranchers so ultimately producers of this great country, gives me courage to fight on. Now come on just tell me what do you expect?? What will it finally take to make peace with the African Americans so that we may all live in peace together in America….

          • Basil Malik

            Im glad you asked and I can answer as I answer this often, All we want is want anybody wants.. an even playing field. We have demonstrated time and time again give us an even playing field and we will achieve and self sustain as we have and as we do today. We have no expectation of white people other than you stop lying to yourselves about the condition of black america. We go to work everyday. Many of.. many of us make more more money than you.. we raise our families and take care of our children. But you dont like that true story its easier to believe all blacks are on welfare and you are better. But really your not. Your little hateful inferior people scared we want to kill you all. But actually we dont think that much about you at all. we go on about our days our lives trying to accomplish what we can. But You never admit how uneven the playing field is.. whether its the justice system, banking, education. You like to haul insults about blacks in poverty or blacks in the criminal justice system but never admit the disparities exist that can lead to those happinstances but the beauty of being black is we still rise.And thats the part you hate. thats why you hate BO. But he like all of us dont give a f*k

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            I tell you what it would take to make peace with ME: treat me as an INDIVIDUAL, judge me as an INDIVIDUAL, stop making assumptions about me based on my skin color, and stop making me responsible for the actions of people I don’t know and would never associate with just because they happen to have similar amounts of pigmentation in the skin as I do.

            And this comes from someone who thinks these people who protested against Trader Joes are a bunch of friggin’ idiots…

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I agree with you completely

          • Austin Mabry

            Jews aren’t using the holocost as an excuse to be failures at life.

          • Anthony Chmielewski

            Jews were slaves long before the holocaust.

          • moodyjudi

            Exactly!

          • Basil Malik

            Just about every african american I know has a better existance than yours… and like most middle aged whitemen you’ll be killing yourself soon or raping a little boy so it really doenst matter what you think.

          • Austin Mabry

            Sorry to hear about your unabashed racism. Trash will be trash…

          • moodyjudi

            Thank you! That is right.

          • Anthony Chmielewski

            Jews were slaves long before. Ask the pharaoh. The real slaves are the people who work for a living and have 36% of their earnings taken before they even see it. So others can get welfare.

          • david

            want to talk slavery stupid fool. lets inform your stupid black Asz. the Jews were enslaved for centuries. including by BLACKS you know from Africa called the Egyptians. and they were held there for centuries. also the Babylonians and Romans enslaved them as well. and held them for centuries as well. Jews know all about being Enslaved. only a dimwitted black whines about it.

          • livelol

            Stupid? Do you know Jews are not the Hebrew that populated Africa? They are converts, so..No, the Jews of today did not experience centuries of slavery…DAVID

          • Henry

            And the blacks of today weren’t slaves.

          • moodyjudi

            Right, just lazy mooches who are trying to exploit their ancestor’s pain. The average slave would look down on a lot of blacks today, and shun them for the scum they are. All they went thru, all their suffering–for what? So you could whine about it and use it as an excuse to not try? To use it to get something for nothing? You just plain suck.

          • Sharon

            livelol, there are no current American blacks who have experienced slavery, so what’s your point?

          • moodyjudi

            You need to check your facts bucko.

          • Jamie Mason

            Jews will never get over it. Trust me.

          • moodyjudi

            That is a racist thing to say. As a Jew, I do not try and use my family history as a way to excuse my failings. I am over it, but I do not forget history. Those who do are doomed to repeat it.. Hitler was a mad tyrant, and Obozo is following his path. TRUST ME.

          • moodyjudi

            I guess you never read a little book called the Bible, so you never heard about Moses, and how the Egyptians held the Jews in bondage (oops,slavery. Forgot who I was talking to) for a lot longer that we had slaves here in America. As a Jew–I AM over it. I don’t forget the Holocaust, but I do not blame it for my current circumstances.I don’t harp on it and whine about it. I don’t forget, so we can learn from it, and prevent it from happening again. That is why I consider Obozo to be the new Hitler. He is using the same tricks, and is nothing but a tyrant.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            so agree with you.

          • moodyjudi

            I AM NOT SURPRISED. DON’T YOU HAVE A GOAT TO GO MOLEST?

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            wow no one is being anti semitic on here and i have nothing against jews so why the attack? i am american and was born here so here comment that refers to uneducated goat herding arabs extremist fools makes you look bad.

          • Fige Bornu

            Move on? Move on when your guns, disease, and pure gall killed millions of indigenous people, took their land, gave it to flocks from all over Europe? Fuk that. Not until a correction is made.

          • Joseph Augustus Torres

            CRY ABOUT IT!

          • Marki Tparty Green

            But you see the African Americans are stereotyping everyone with white skin. I have never hurt an African American, neither has anyone in my family. I have no slave owners in my family history, as a lot of people I am sure. So at some point you people have to move and clear your minds of this hate and live and love and join the rest of this world. You have to do it or you are hindering us all!!!

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            And you are stereotyping African Americans by lumping the Black racists shouting on here with the rest of us…

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Point well taken………thank you because I have to say I was feeling the same way. Like I am being treated as wealthy white woman who thinks I am superior. Which is far from the truth. I will remember not to lump groups of people together. You are right. Individuals ;)

          • Anthony Chmielewski

            You are pretty much a moron.

          • david

            we will give you a correction. we will gather you all up and execute you. how about that for correction. it will be the only correction you will get so either drop it or move back to Africa.

          • Jon Hawk

            Dude..not cool..and no WE will not do that …that is on you not the rest of us.

          • Basil Malik

            futhermore if thats the type of racists threats you want to hurl why do that anonymously. Be a man David stand behind your threats but you wont do that because the one thing there is a historical record of is your cowardice.

          • david

            get your black asz on a boat boy go back to Africa I will tell you now. I will say it in your bubble lipped face. you are inferior. your kind has ruined the economics of America. with your lazy black ways. only an N word whines and complains. and you seem to whine a whole lot.

          • Jon Hawk

            and what is it you want from the whites then?? instead of crying about ti and complaining about it all of the time..tell them what you as a Black person expect then….otherwise stfu and move on with life.

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            I can’t (and don’t want to) speak for him, but I can tell you what I want:

            Treat me as an INDIVIDUAL, judge me as an INDIVIDUAL, stop making assumptions about me based on my skin color, and stop making me responsible for the actions of people I don’t know and would never associate with just because they happen to have similar amounts of pigmentation in the skin as I do.

            And this comes from someone who thinks these people who protested against Trader Joes are a bunch of friggin’ idiots…

          • Jeff Simon

            So… The problem in the black communities is that crackers won the wars with the native population and settled in lands that Native Americans arrived on first? Well, that certainly sucks if you are a member of the defeated nations.

            How does that excuse continuing black racism, apathy, and sense of self-entitlement again?

          • Linda McDonald

            Not ALL of us chavonlev. I do think it was a dumb move to keep TJ’s out of the neighborhood though, its a nice store and would have been good there. Better than a Wal Mart!! We need to upgrade neighborhoods not downgrade them, and I dont care what type or color of people live there!

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            yes lets stop supporting the richest family in america by erecting more freaking walmarts and not providing liveable wage and health insurance. which TJ’s would have done both of those.

          • Jon Hawk

            You do not really seem like a hard core liberal to me…

          • livelol

            42% of welfare recipients work full time, 20% are elderly, factor that into your formula. There are a few EBT cities in your community as well Vincent, don’t be so smug.

          • Bell

            Where in the article does it say that these people said that. The title said it.

          • James Martin

            non-oppressed people

          • Myrtle Linder

            When we get weary of ripping others apart, we need to take a look at our own selves.If we cannot register well with GOD’S rules we need to put effort, wasted where it belongs, to improving our own standards

          • Kibber_SF

            Did you sign up for Obamacare yet??? You better go run right down because it’s good for you… We give the poor overpriced stores and you get overpriced insurance, so what’s your problem…why can’t they just do as they are told??? (You too)

          • John Campbell

            “We give”? Who is “we” and what is it being “give”? (given)

            You need to find an actual argument. So far you’ve only exposed yourself. :o)

          • Kibber_SF

            so sarcasm is too much for you???

          • John Campbell

            Based in your other postings it would be difficult for me to find “sarcasm” in your latest offering. :o)

          • bendecido

            They compain so much about discrimination and racism, and look at them, they do not want any whites in their neighborhood. Is that RACISM or what?

          • Basil Malik
          • Charisa White

            BUT THEN WOULD WOULD BE BEING RACIST AND VIOLATING CIVIL RITES YADDA YADDA YADA HOW LONG DOES THE BLACK MAN NEED ????????????????PULL IT TOGETHER GET A JOB AND BECOME AMEMBER OF SOCIETY NOT MEMBER OF A RACE.

          • Will Workforf Ood

            Your theory would be solid if EBT paid for rent, utilities, transportation, hygiene or education. If it did you might be on to something, but as it stands $110 bucks a month for food is all EBT will get one person under the new farm bill.

          • PeachPie

            If a store does not want my money I don’t shop there. No skin off my nose. When it comes to my dollars have to see you where you deserve first.

          • Alemeyehu Elias

            while it was implied there is no comment of race in the letter…its about income, and sadly ignorant people like you automatically equate race with class and wealth…they aren’t afraid of whites they are afraid of higher incomes moving in and gentrifying their neighborhood…but I’m probably using words that are to big for your simple redneck brain…

          • jerome h.

            We have to phrase it like they did…we do not want (insert establishment here) in our neighborhood because it will attract the oppressed citizenry. We chose not to have it because they wish to remain oppressed.

          • Mark G

            You are an embarrassment to white folk.

          • Rayvyn007

            You didn’t look it up because most blacks are not on welfare.

        • Vincent W Simard

          MAYBE that city can deny the welfare office to make sure not to many blacks are around…. or open up like 8 more planned parenthoods in that area… that will do the trick…. LOL

          • livelol

            That would impact whites as well, get over yourself. Anyone check abortion rates at private hospitals?…didn’t think so.

        • Vincent W Simard

          Thisis the reason HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH keysrat

          • 24 minutes ago

          They don’t want a store that would enforce foodstamp guidelines and laws. These Mom and Pop stores they are praising will give case for stamps under the table or sell non allowable items such as wine and beer. They can’t afford to loose those luxuries.

          • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

            are you saying you and the mom and pop stores are criminals? shame

          • PawneeBill47

            If accepting food stamps for NON ALLOWED items is criminal then yes, they deserve to be called criminals. Shame on you for being liberal.

          • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

            Actually, I am a Conservative and have Conservative, hard-working, work for what you want and what you get, it is called PRIDE! Apparently, criminals do not respect this in our society and criminals are ruining our country. So, for whatever way things are, you should abide the rules. Whites are not all racists, as are not all blacks racists. But, you sir, are a moron. just sayin’

          • Michael McGill Jr.

            HAHAHA!! I love this comment.. Indeed, you sir, are a moron! I’m just sayin’ as well… INDUBITABLY!! Dude, seriously, get a clue! SMH! Jack-ass…jackass…JACK-ASS. Thanks, PawneeBill- good for you for taking a stand for what’s right and against what is wrong and ignorant. Goodness. :)

          • livelol

            Do you have proof of this? If so, you are guilty of it.

          • PawneeBill47

            Unlike liberals I do not demand proof/ask for proof. I take at face value the postings of humans on simple issues based upon all I have seen and likewise what they have seen. How am I guilty of it? You mean because I did not ask for the name of the buyer, wait in line at an 0bama administration office half my day to hear them say “so”? I nailed the store clerk for it, publicly in front of the purchaser and others. He replied “so?” Mainly because he too is probably a damned liberal who is too stupid to know the depth of the crime he is committing and that he is being screwed too as a working man. They buyer asked if I wanted my ass kicked to which I replied “wait outside, after I check out you can do just that.”
            He left, another low life liberal no doubt.

          • Linda McDonald

            I’m a liberal and I resent YOUR innuendo!! Jesus was ALSO a liberal, you’d probably nail him to the cross!

          • PawneeBill47

            “Jesus was a liberal”, ma’am you are not a liberal, you are mentally ill to even put yourself in the ballpark with Jesus. I have no doubt you were alive then due to your tremendous knowledge on nearly everything but I’d bet the last time you prayed was for 0bama was to be reelected and take the country to it’s grave. You are simply wired wrong to understand right from wrong.

          • Jon Hawk

            No a true Conservative would never seek to nail Jesus to a cross…but i know some that would,, not true conservatives though…and i know alot of liberals that would nail him to it..so lets not compare who would and would not..their are bad apples on both sides of the fence. BTW I am neither one…i choose not be on either side..i see points good and bad from both..

          • Monica Reuland

            OMG, seriously, grow up.

          • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

            laws are supposed to be respected and when you do not respect or follow the laws and rules, you become a criminal and RIGHT is RIGHT and WRONG is still WRONG. When you go along with the WRONG things and the WRONG ways, you hurt everyone.

          • Linda McDonald

            Wouldnt it be wonderful if we could get our CORPORATIONS and GOVERNMENT to follow those rules bluebonnet?? I think there’s your problem right there! ;)

          • RA

            Then quit electing corrupt lying leadership that promotes this kind of thing!

          • Jon Hawk

            Well alot of so called “Laws” are not going to be followed for obvious reasons..and anything our current GOVT puts out as a Law will not be followed by me that is for sure. God’s law is all that matters.

          • livelol

            Have you ever thought maybe they wanted to support mom and pop stores? Last time I checked there was a huge fight against the big boxes in the suburbs as well. But I guess that is ok some people are afforded the right to determine which retailers will enter their markets while others are not…get over yourselves.

          • RA

            Maybe but they were specifically quoted as saying “they didn’t want whites coming into their community”!

          • Jon Hawk

            I do agree they can choose that option if the like…but if they do they have no right to continue to complain because there are no jobs or opportunity in their neighborhood.

          • moodyjudi

            They were going to build on a lot that has been vacant for years, and no Mom or Pop stores wanted the space. If you did a little fact checking you would not look so stupid right now.

        • Bob Deveny

          Statistically, Douglas is correct about that neighborhood. Good grief, read the story. The Leadership Forum itself was stereotyping the neighborhood. And I have first hand knowledge of all this because I live in Portland. Indeed, that same group will now complain about a lack of services in their neighborhood. I was hoping that Joe’s would just add a “black” section to the store and sell chitlin’s and collard greens.

          • Brittany Burnam

            Wow stereotypical much smh

          • no1athomehere

            Liberal twit. Sarcasm escapes Progs.

          • Linda McDonald

            Conservative twat! ;)

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            get em woman

          • moodyjudi

            Typical. Not man enough to do battle, needs a woman to fight for him.

          • moodyjudi

            DumboCrap skank!

          • RedDog

            It’s called sarcasm. Lighten up Francis.

          • livelol

            Well, if you are right, Trader Joe’s site selector should be fired..how do you justify building in an area where there is no market? genius…not

          • Linda McDonald

            Havent you heard? BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME!!!!

          • livelol

            HOW HAS THAT WORKED FOR YOU SO FAR?

          • livelol

            Apparently you are the site selector in question if you are banking on that.

          • Bob Deveny

            I guess I should have made it clear that he was right about the blacks in the neighborhood. Portland has lots of young creatives that are looking for less expensive neighbors — to rent and live. Trader Joe’s would have targeted them and helped increase the overall economy of the neighborhood. What’s going on is the black “leaders” don’t want to lose control of the neighborhood.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Its not like they wanted to open up on a deserted island. Plus they take food stamps and sell quality food. The market is there people in the area just need to be willing to drop the corn dog and buy the mango instead.

          • Corpseman57

            The site selector made the mistake of thinking black people eat.

        • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

          why do you mean? The truth is the truth, isn’t it? Do facts lie? I don’t think so!

          • Montely Wilson

            I haven’t seen a fact yet. Only unsubstantiated comments. Smacks of the racist you people really are!

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            you want facts? why when the facts are ever present before your face fool. no one is being racist just honest. i am black male no matter how much it sounds racist on their part they are right. the stereotypes exist for a reason because they are the stereotypes. blacks continue to act like the stereotypes and so what happens they get treated like stereotypes. blacks act like they are not racist but this article proves this are just as racist as anyone else. black people make me sad today because they are holding themselves back with hatred for another group people based on their skin and ethnic background sound familiar???

          • jpinkglasses

            Thanks for your comment. Maybe it was just my perception because, I grew up in Cali, but I believed we had made tremendous progress in race relations. As a conservative, I did not vote for the President. In 2008, I thought there was some consolation in the fact America had elected a Black man as President and his promise of absolute transparency. I was naive to think this would lead to even greater progress. Unfortunately, in the political realm, the liberal folks used the fact that our President is Black to assault not just conservatives with accusations of racism, but proclaimed all White people to be racist; even when they themselves were White. Huh? In many instances when I have debated a liberal on policies, I have been deemed a racist. And, of course any Black conservative is automatically an Uncle Tom or betraying “their people.” This is something I naturally strongly disagree with. Then, there is the turn about where several Black groups and individuals are openly vocal about their own racism. It’s all very discouraging to me. I have never considered myself as racist and the fact that it is so insulting should ring some bells to people, but they love the weapon too much to lay it down. I am a Jesus loving Christian; so there was never any place in my heart for hatred. I may still be a racist, however; because I do laugh at good ethnic humor and I did feel anxiety when living in Down Town Detroit and there was a group of young Black men walking behind me. Then again, I would have been anxious regardless of their ethnicity. It was a dangerous place to live.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            oh i know the uncle tom feeling. i get called white washed all the time because i refuse to walk around talking ebonics and i make an effort to actually better myself because i point out the fact that most people do not want to live around black folks even other black folks because they are so obnoxiious sometimes when there is no need to be. the world be a better place if eveyone admitted to having some kind of predujices.

          • livelol

            White people feel the same way about trailer trash…move on, nothing to see here

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I don’t think anyone denied that either. There are low class in every race…can we all join in hand to help them possibly achieve a better way?? Or do we just fight call each other names and hand out welfare checks like they grow on trees??

          • Linda McDonald

            Its not just about black or white, its about EDUCATION! The real problem is ignorance and money, or lack of. I commend you for being the best that you can be! Thats what we should all strive for.

          • Jon Hawk

            Agreed and very well stated

          • no1athomehere

            The problem Progressives have is the President isn’t actually black. He’s HALF black…and half white, which he rejects. I guess that would be the ultimate in racism, wouldn’t it?

          • James Martin

            hitler was half jewish

          • Linda McDonald

            What do you mean he “rejects” what he is? I’ve never heard that anywhere. Stop labeling people already, so annoying!

          • Hames Cpep

            For a person who throws around the word ignorant…you are by far the most ignorant annoying person I have had the pleasure to read today. You haven’t acknowledged my statement above where I made you look like a fool. The statement that proves your whole more white people on welfare argument is completely invalid and against all logic that has been around since the beginning of time. You see white people outnumber black people 8 to 1. So naturally even when a very small percentage of whites are on welfare they are going to outnumber blacks. So if there’s a room with 10 blacks in it….7 of them will be on welfare. If there’s a room with 10 whites in it 3 will be on welfare. The reason this percentage “garbage” as you would call it so so important is because blacks as a race dominate welfare. Let me make this even simpler for you. Let’s say 7 out of 10 Nissan trucks always broke down….and only 3 out 10 ford trucks always broke down….but there were 8 times more ford trucks than nissans…..NISSANS WOULD BE THE CRAPIER TRUCK!! Is that simple enough for you!?! It doesn’t matter how many….percentage is what matters. Nobody would buy a truck that has an 70-80% chance of breaking down on them. They are going to choose the ford that only has a 30% chance. Ford produces 8 times more vehicles so naturally in a numbers race they will have more. But they are still the better truck. Jeeez. I bet even that confused you. Just like how blacks account for 59% of homicides….what that means is you are TEN TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE MURDERED BY A BLACK PERSON!!! Black people are ten times more violent than whites. Those are facts out together with percentages. Just because you aren’t intelligent enough to comprehend percentages doesn’t mean they don’t exist or make sense. They only don’t make sense to an IGNORANT person like yourself. CAM I GET A AMEN UP IN HERE!!!

          • Jon Hawk

            wow again with mad math…again incorrect and NO i am not a liberal and yes I was and still am good with math..if you want to talk percentage…lets do it this way….. You have welfare at 100% – 38% of that 100% are Blacks – 38.6 % of that 100% are Whites…uhmmmmmm you tell me who has the higher %.

          • Hames Cpep

            You are a special kind of stupid aren’t you. I shouldn’t even waste my energy. Please ask another human being who is intelligent. I said that as a race more black are on welfare than whites….can you comprehend that simple concept!?! Holy smokes man you have some nerve.

          • Jon Hawk

            And again i said you are the special one…for again no they are not…

          • Hames Cpep

            Seriously. You need help.

          • Jon Hawk

            yeah i do..to get people like you back in school and get a real education. Have a great Day sir

          • Hames Cpep

            I almost feel bad for you but then again it must be nice to live in ignorant bliss. You obviously have no common knowledge of what percentages mean. You cannot grasp what it means to have a higher percentage of something will you just look it up at least?
            I just pasted these from a government site:

            With regard to AFDC the figures are:

            White 38.8%
            Black 39.8
            Hispanic 15.7
            Asian 2.4
            other 3.3

            To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly equal, which is rarely is! This thread was started, not to be racist, but to keep it real. After all, there are some legitimate reasons for Blacks to be on welfare more than Whites. But the worst thing anyone can do is be in denial.

          • Joseph Augustus Torres

            I can’t stand liberals! They always want to take someone else’s earnings and give it away! You disgust me!! You hate your own race!

          • Jon Hawk

            Not Cool..you give Conservatives a bad name there Bro…although I am not conservative or Liberal – but i do have friends that are Both. It is the ones like you that just have to bad mouth others that make the group look bad..learn to chill…and to discuss not argue and yell etc. You get alot more accomplished when you are cool calm and collected.

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            Liberal is a race?

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            Why is that people only care about a bi-racial person being half black person when that person is famous or has achieved some lofty status? If Obama were just a Joe Blow you passed by on the street, then he’d just be a Black guy. If he were in the prison system, he’d surely be considered a black guy. But get elected, then, whoa, let’s make sure we point out he’s not all Black…

          • PawneeBill47

            Oh for cryin’ out loud he is NOT black, he is hybrid, white and black. Get over the racism crap.

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            Why is that people only care about a bi-racial person being half black person when that person is famous or has achieved some lofty status? If Obama were just a Joe Blow you passed by on the street, then he’d just be a Black guy. If he were in the prison system, he’d surely be considered a black guy. But get elected, then, whoa, let’s make sure we point out he’s not all Black…

          • PawneeBill47

            How long ya been stupid? If he were in prison BOTH races would reject him. Don’t get around much huh? But we can HOPE this asshat DOES end up in prison!

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            I’ve been around long enough to know that Black people would reject him, and White people wouldn’t even admit he was mixed; they’d just claim he was Black and not bi-racial. White people only make the distinction about a bi-racial person actually BEING bi-racial when that person is famous; otherwise, that person is just another Black to them.

          • Linda McDonald

            I think you ought to realize by now, that it doesnt matter politically, if you’re black or white, conservative or liberal, only if you’re RICH!! United we stand, divided we fall, remember that? Its true. WE, none of us, have a government that works for US, every politician is bought and paid for by corporate America, and that IS a fact! So, don’t waste your time debating “liberals” or whatever, if you want to change the system, you have to go to the TOP. MONEY must be REMOVED from politics or we will never have a government that works for us again.

          • Jon Hawk

            Even the Rich will fail under Obama and his administration. They have to be removed and all associated with him…then we can work more of the Money issue. But yes i do agree with you on this issue overall. But please next time you vote please be a good bit more cautious who you vote for, sometimes what seems to be unbelievable probably is.

          • Davina Smith Taff

            Me personally, I’m tired of anyone being put into “groups”. We are all human beings and we should all be treated the same. As long as any group holds themselves apart from others, there will strife. Why can’t everyone look at people as just people? Treat others as you would like to be treated regardless of color, religion or sexual orientation.

          • Jon Hawk

            And there would be the perfect world, but as long as there is Evil and Sin this shall not be.

          • http://angrynerd517.blogspot.com/ The Angry Nerd

            Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen…

          • Anti-liberal

            You sir seem to be wiser than other people that are posting here. It’s just like when they cry about Voter ID laws being racist. First of all no one mentioned race until you said Black people can’t vote because they don’t have IDs. That is bull because you are supposed to show your ID when you use your food stamp card. So even if you are poor you still have to have an ID. Secondly requiring EVERYONE to show their ID is not racist. Saying that ALL Black people are to poor to afford an ID to vote well that sounds pretty racist to me.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            thanks i wish i was wise. i just see things from a really weird point of view. trust me you do not want to hear some of my points of views.. i say a lot of stuff for shock value to expose people for what they really are.

          • no1athomehere

            You, my brother, are the epitome of what MLK was talking about…judging each other on the content of our character, not the color of our skin. This group rejecting Trader Joes because it might “attract too many white people”, they’re doing the exact opposite. MLK would march against these people just as he did in the 60′s. I’m sure he’s spinning in his grave right now.

          • Linda McDonald

            And who, exactly, is “you people” Montely??? Is that the “group” YOU are not part of? I see.

          • Betty Lou Schwartz

            bluebonnet=== I think you misread someone’s post along the way– think you are griping at the people that were thinking the same way. vincent didn’t say he was doing it…and you added him in the criminals- and then everyone got ridiculous and confused!! Read posts carefully before you respond people!

          • Linda McDonald

            Its hard to keep up here Betty Lou! I try to to just interject a bit of “comedic relief” occasionally, poking fun at all of us, since I think we mostly believe and want the same things, seems silly to argue with people you dont even know about opinions doesnt it?

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            its fun though huh? i love say outrageous stuff to people to piss them off.

        • Bookerisdeadahahaha

          kerryberger reading is a fundamental you moron, it is right in the story “Trader Joe’s would increase displacement of low-income residents” and here’s another “an empty lot and a boulevard still struggling to support its local small businesses.” how’s that you ass?

          • Linda McDonald

            Two wrongs don’t make a right. No need to be rude here.

        • Marki Tparty Green

          Did you not read the article……duh!! It pretty much says it all. If there are not working people odds are they are on welfare!! Stop with the ignorance already, because that is what is wrong with this country. Everyone chooses not to think or live in a state of reality!!

        • Kevin Brooks

          read any paper watch any news channel go visit any jail lookwith your own eyes at the way that the black race tears up anything that is clean it may sound like a generalization and it is but look it
          fits

          • obadiahlynch

            Woo hoo! Way to keep it classy, bizpac!

          • GiaA

            You’ve got to be kidding. White people are the most dirtiest people I’ve ever seen and I’ve been around enough of them to make this statement. Mexican’s come in second. Not to mention there are more white and mexican people on welfare than their are black people. Please don’t throw out statistics either because they are biased!

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Racist!!! You just crossed the racist line…you’re like in third place nevertheless you crossed the line. Want your crown princess??

          • Susan A Davis

            lol

          • Linda McDonald

            I wouldnt make a generalization like that about any race! Thats racism. I’ve seen disgusting, whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, you name it and I’ve seen decent, hard working, respectable people in all the same categories. NEVER judge somebody you don’t know personally! Thats a sign of ignorance.

          • Hames Cpep

            Please don’t throw out statistics because they are biased?!? Oh my ….god….you’re kidding right?! Statistics can’t be biased. They are numbers. Numbers put together by a machine that doesn’t care what color you are. 7 out of 10 black people are on welfare. 3 out of 10 white people are on welfare. So you are dead wrong. So wrong that I bet 9 out of 10 people’s jaws dropped when they read your ridiculous comment. People like you shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion. All you do is poison otherwise innocent stupid people into become racist stupid people. Please stop. White people are dirty lol. Black pubes are like a rats nest

          • Jon Hawk

            and where do you get your information that 7 of 10 blacks and 3 of 10 whites are on welfare? That is lamest thing i have ever heard..maybe you should go back and try again..

          • Hames Cpep

            Oh my lord. Are you serious? Let’s see you take the total amount of blacks on welfare….then you minus the total amount of blacks that there are in the untied states….and walla….you have your figures…maybe you should try it before critiquing someone else

          • Jon Hawk

            if that is the case then there are ALOT more whites on welfare than blacks

          • Hames Cpep

            You are the epitome of stupid.

          • Jon Hawk

            LOl yeah ok keep saying that to yourself ..whatever gets you off…go back to school and actually crack math book ok.

          • Jon Hawk

            There are Dirty people in all races, She just happened to see more that are white than any other race…do not judge lest ye be judged

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            wow what white people and mexican houses have you been to?

          • Kevin Brooks

            giaa dont use stat’s huh i would not i could just walk around the city here . and see any neighborhood and look or i could close my eyes and just listen

        • Ben Ghazi

          With 50 million people on food stamps and 50% paying no income tax and with the black “leaders” in that community as they describe it, I think logic and common sense is on the side of Douglas Howell. Capiche, ass?

        • Ishmael Yaeger

          actually as a black male they are pretty right about what they are saying. blacks still believe the white man is source of all evil and is why they are still poor…

          • calvwash

            I am black and I don’t do not believe that the white man is the source of all evil, holding me down, nor am I poor. Don’t make generalizations. It makes you sound ignorant.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            please ignorance my generalizations are based on prior experience having been born in the hood environment and been to prison i have more than enough room to make those generalizations when the average black is on welfare having babies that they cant afford or even raise properly so of course we are stuck in a cycle of stereotypes. and let me guess you voted for OBAMA too? well that’s nice that you are not poor or don’t fit the stereotype because i do not either except we get lumped in there why because a majority black folks have no interest in changing at all or bettering themselves. everyone wants to have swag and be a gangsta or a fucking hoe. please respond lets discuss

          • calvwash

            You’re ignorant. The more you type, the more apparent it becomes.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            see you have proven your ignorance by continuing your insults and not coming up with a valid argument so please show intelligence and provide a counter argument. otherwise, if you can only hurl insults like you have on the rest of your comments i saw then please do not respond cause you shall be wasting your time as i shall not respond. mostly due to the fact that you proven my arguments before even having to make them.

          • livelol

            Ishmael you prove my point, you are speaking from personal reference. You need to turn off the television and expand your circle of friends.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            i do not watch television. i regret having one in my home. its nice you watch the brainwashing tool though. personal reference is in the better then them weak ass stats everyone keeps quoting. especially since i pretty sure i know what i am talking about. considering my mother has PHD in sociology so i grew up on this type of stuff. this article shows that stereotypes and generalizations continue to ring true for a majority of blacks. expand my circle of friends no need i have good mix of friends of all nationalities plus i am muslim and the black community has made me sick. so much whining and not enough doing. yes black community is still playing catch up but i am pretty sure the tortoise won in the end due to the fact that he didn’t give up and kept pushing forward. so by continuing to perpetuate hate and discrimination in any form is wrong and so against MLK AND MALCOLM X teaching that it is hilarious

          • Guest

            Ishmael, that’s is awesome you grew up with your mom’s sociological leanings, but there are others that do not align with hers. You have a right to your opinions about yourself and your experiences as a black man (I think that is what you said) and others have a right to their own. Some People are actually DOING things in the communities other than going on sites professing they are black and hate black people as much, if not more than, white people. Don’t know you personally and could be totally wrong on my assessment, but the snap shot of your comments are a bit scary.

          • Guest

            Proved my point, you are speaking from your experience and no one else’s. Turn off the television and expand your circle of friends.

          • Guest

            Ishmael, living in the hood and having been to prison looks like you are just lucky enough not to have fallen in the pit you deplore…good for you!

          • Hames Cpep

            Oh wow…that word ignorant needs to stop being thrown around by ignorant people. You do realize that when he said that he himself is black….so obviously he didn’t say every single black person besides himself. Of course you had to find a reason to be offended though. You couldn’t see that your “brother” actually shares your exact beliefs and side with him…..no no no !!! You had to attack him because he didn’t make sure to include a person he’s never met before. The stupidity is amazing. Truly amazing.

          • calvwash

            The irony of your post! Amazing. Truly amazing.

          • livelol

            cavwash, some people need to throw around negative generalizations of others to build themselves up…keeps ‘em going you know?

          • Brooke Lorren

            It depends on what black person you are talking about… the black people that I know (primarily my husband and his family… my kids are biracial so they don’t really count because they’re half caucasian) are all conservative and defy the stereotypes. Do you feel that “whitey” is the source of all evil?

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            no i don’t. yes you are right on the type. unfortunately black children continue to become the same stereotype we all depise. white people are not the source of all evil.

          • livelol

            Ishmael, that’s is awesome you grew up with your mom’s sociological leanings, but there are others that do not align with hers. You have a right to your opinions about yourself and your experiences as a black man (I think that is what you said) and others have a right to their own. Some People are actually DOING things in the communities other than going on sites professing they are black and hate black people as much, if not more than, white people. Don’t know you personally and could be totally wrong on my assessment, but the snap shot of your comments are a bit scary.

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          • Ishmael Yaeger

            oh no i think you have it all wrong i hate(maybe not hate that is too strong but deplore) everyone equally. the human race disgusts me to no end. people of different nationalities hate each other for 100 upon 100 of years after the fact of something happening. that some group people’s ancestor raped pillaged enslaved and conquered another group of people’s ancestors such a long time ago that there are no living survivors but yet they continue to pass on the hatred generation after generation with no different outcome. hate only begets more hate. love is the only to defeat hate. this article is clearly an article of showing that there is still hate being perpetuated by some other group against another group that wants nothing more than to help better a neighborhood by bringing them wholesome foods that are not full dangerous chemicals and gmo products that weaken the mind and body yet the other group refused to let them in. so continues the poverty in a neighborhood that could have been bettered. I MAY HAVE GONE OVERBOARD BUT I AM LOOKING TO MAKE A POINT. when all these people complain about how this area is so ghetto but it when there comes along business that says hey we can help better the neighborhood by providing jobs and tax revenue (hates taxes that is new form of slavery) those individuals who were not even from that neighborhood prevented that from happening???? DO YOU SEE THAT INCONGRUITY THERE? LIKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. NO ONE GROUP IS OPPRESSED ANYMORE TODAY. EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF YOUR RACE EVERYONE IS OPPRESSED TODAY. THE 1% IS OPPRESSING EVERYONE YET YOU PEOPLE PLAY ALONG WITH STUPID GAMES WAKE UP PULL THE WOOL FROM THY EYES RISE UP AGAINST THE MACHINE THAT HAS PITTED US AGAINST ONE AND ANOTHER FOR TOO LONG….. my apologies if i have offended you but please have a wonderful day and may God bless you no matter what you believe

            yes you are right there are some people working at making a difference yet there are many more doing the opposite.

            (btw not on a payroll just love to harass people to tears it’s one of my greatest pleasure in this world).

          • Rhonda Canuel

            Black women are the ones who have to support their households because of lazy black men who have a “victim” mentality. It’s gets them off the hook for being responsible to their families and in turn, black kids grow up watching their mothers be the breadwinners of the family. So the kids grow up and do the same. Raising their children to think they can be sports stars/rappers is an atrocity to this nation.

          • livelol

            Ishmael, speak for yourself and your family..that is who you know best.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            please i am living in a black neighborhood right now. guess what there is TJ right up street like 6 blocks. guess what the community is doing great and the mom and pop stores are doing fine. yet everyday i see over 100 plus black folks just hanging on the corner drinking and smoking and cajoling wasting time. i drive through the neighborhoods close by same thing. day or night come on.

          • Guest

            Wow, sorry you have to live in a community with over a 100 people doing nothing. Must have your picks of jobs with statistics like that.

          • livelol

            Wow, sorry you have to live in a community with over a 100 people doing nothing. Must have your pick of jobs with statistics like that.

        • HonestToAtee

          Yes we have real evidence, and why else would the Demoncraps attack those who are against the nanny state? They surely don’t care about whites! But here are the actual numbers and it is due to the tinkering of the Socialists that the black community is in such poor straights!
          http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672

        • mike morgan

          you should see the neighborhood i live in, 25 years and it looks like the burbs of chicago , or detroit, yes i have been in both, they trash it and move on to the next teritory.

        • Jeff Tlano

          kerry, are you an idiot or a nigro savage ??(or both) let the nigro savages eat super walmart food then and hopefully is will sterilize them like it does to rats, and then they will vanish and the community can become something other than a nigro savage shithole.

          • calvwash

            Get back in your double wide.

          • Jamie Mason

            Nigro?

        • jpinkglasses

          I didn’t care for the tone of the comment, but the article did read… “Trader Joe’s would increase displacement of low-income residents.” While low income is not synonymous with being on welfare, it is not an outrageous assumption.

        • jumara

          open your eyes and ears blacks are becoming racists thanks to Obama,jackso and of course Sharpton.do you think Obama communist mother and upbringing had anything to do with this?

          • Jamie Mason

            OMG BLACK PPL CAN BE RACIST TOO!??!?

        • Theresa Easley

          Well, I have lived in Portland for a number of years and it is true.

        • Paul Clayton

          Yes kerryberger, because I Live close by. Most of those in Protest, did not even live in the community dumb dumb, and those who did were disappointed. This nothing more than a Organization, again trying to keep there own people in Poverty, Plantation, or however you what to characterize it. The blacks hurt there own, than other races… So much for jobs Right? Something they needed, but again, a lot of these protester’s did not live in the community.. Typical Stupid in my opinion.. What the heck is so wrong with a Trader Joes.. Would not have put anyone out of business. They are a specialty store, and there prices are higher.. Duh…

        • thatguy22

          1. The articles states they were poor.
          2. They are 12.8 mill recipients on welfare and 40% are black which makes that 5.12 million black people on welfare. There are 40 million black people in the usa. So about 13% of the black population are on welfare which makes them three times higher than the national average

          TLDR-Statistics and fact proving you wrong

        • babbott

          Since unemployment among blacks is over 26% according to the NLRB, and since there are crowds of young blacks standing on street corners, you should realize that they are all living off government assistance. They can’t all be drug dealers.

        • GinAZ

          Yes their behavior, just blame the media. Americans are tired of the little black man/woman or who cried racism, oppression. Time for blacks to look at themselves as the real problem in “their plight” Time for the rest of the country to leave them behind until they decide as a people to participate in making this country a better place. And that goes for the lazy white people who are eating up MOST of the welfare dollars in the USA.

        • Socialism: Organized Evil

          Real evidence? Try Baltimore.

        • Corpseman57

          The black community just generalized, but not a peep out of you. Everything is a one-way street with libprogs. BTW, the blacks are being played by the Dems.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            SO PLAYED. the democrats were the guys that wanted to keep them enslavedin the south yet they still ball with them

        • Steve Stribley

          Detroit, MI. Go there sometime. Perfect example.

        • GoodBusiness

          If you want truthful evidence just look at the Census numbers – big city Ghettos racial makeup versus the population of Black minorities in total.

          Maybe it is more illustrative to look at what President Obama promised . . he said he would unite the nation and end racial strife. Instead he has widened the gap and further wedged the issues of vouchers and hate.

          Sorry, but he and the media played the race card so often that the nation is divided by race more than politics.

        • FedUp

          Sorry, the truth hurts doesn’t it and Obama, the criminal in the WH, is trying to get more and more on government entitlements as we speak. He wants control of everyone’s life. My question is…..who will pay for all these entitlements when the ones of us who actually do work are working anymore???????

        • RobertNorwood

          They hold records in several key areas – welfare, food stamps, crime, drugs, poor academic performance, the school dropout rate, illegitimate off spring and the break up of the family as a cohesive social and cultural structure. It’s too bad because they once maintained a family structure that was exceptionally strong. Under slavery it was something they were denied and helps explain that value system. Somewhere around Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society, the rise of the Liberal Democrat, it began going down hill. The Democrats most likely missed having black folks enslaved to them after the Civil War but wow, did they find a way to get them back.

        • Vibora Volando

          The article says as much about this particular neighborhood. Group is insuring property values and services stay substandard with anti-biz anti-white rhetoric

        • Steve Tanton

          Are you kidding me?

        • John Campbell

          Read their own complaint to the “city leaders”. That’s what they claimed of themselves. Who am I to argue otherwise when they themselves claim to be sponging off of the rest of us?

        • obama-sux

          Yes I do – I teach Criminal Justice and it is a known fact that blacks commit 78% of all violent crime. The best indication of an area’s crime rate is the amount of blacks living in the area.
          .
          If they were not on welfare they would get jobs, it is a direct correlation, the more people on welfare (blacks) the higher the crime rate.

        • Jon Hawk

          Sorry that the truth actually hurts, but yes the majority most likely are on welfare considering the neighborhood is very low income to below poverty level.

        • C Breeze

          The “evidence” that you “progressive Liberals are always searching for but are blind to, stands in forlorn evidence for ALL to see in all major cities North of the ‘Mason-Dixon Line’ all the way from Portland to Detroit to New York City (and every major city in between (Check it out “Kerryberger”, with your eyes and your mind open…like a conservative American)

        • mikevalentine00@yahoo.com

          Um, the article is about self proclaimed “oppressed” people. And seeing how oppressed people are GENERALLY on welfare. Douglass is on the money.

          Love, Mike

        • mikevalentine00@yahoo.com

          Real evidence? The truth is self evident.

        • Carl Crowley Sr.

          did you read the fucking article? they don’t want white people in their neighborhood, they don’t want the jobs you moron

        • enosfolly

          The facts are in your face. Take off the polly anna blinders. These are racists.

        • Raymond Fenner

          Don’t you find it stuped were, if they did build it, Trader Joes, that would help their community not hurt it, unless u like your situation.

        • A J Jackson Gum

          Chicago, Atlanta, New Orleans, Cleveland. .. The list goes on.

        • Jason Skitz

          Hes not saying anything that isnt true!

        • Lc Goodfellow

          Been to Detroit lately ?
          ’bout a whole community of people !

        • foolproof

          Trader Joes pays some of the highest wages in the grocery industry. This would mean jobs. Good jobs with benefits that don’t require college degrees. Guess they don’t want them huh?

        • Dustón McCreary

          They made this generalization about themselves. How did you not get that?

        • Maria Padilla

          It says it was a low income comunity.

        • PeachPie

          He is an ass and you have to admit blacks are not being paranoid about lack of equality. Case in point.

        • WaitnonYeshua

          Whose being an arse? This group of people do t want a Trader Joe’s store in “their” neighborhood for “unopressed” people to come into their neighborhood – who are the “unopressed”? They are generalizing that people not in “their” neighborhood are “unopressed”. Not rocket science to understand, no white people allowed. As an older American, and one from a bi-racially mixed family, I find it highly offensive that you think it’s okay for black racism, but its racist to speak out against black racism – I would say Sir, that you are the blinded racist!!!

        • curmudgeon

          He may be generalizing, but it’s the same percentage who elected Obozo based solely of the color of his skin.

        • Max Black

          I can say this. african American democrats exclaim that cuts to the food stamp program ” would disproportionately affect african Americans” Why?

        • Eric

          As azz like yourself?

        • terryhoaglland123@aol.com

          It goes to show you most blacks don’t want to get ahead they want to stay in the same groove waiting for a handout.

        • Bob Gray

          AREN’T THE BLACKS MAKING A SIMILAR “gross-generalization”, THINK ABOUT IT ????????

        • Rodney Ray

          You mean like gross-generalizations by Black people that all White people are Racist and are doing everything they can to keep the Blacks down?

        • Estella Cohen

          He’s just “being an ass”!

        • Rayvyn007

          No he doesn’t. He might be getting his “facts” from Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

      • RoycePashtun

        “Why should they care, most of them live off welfare anyways…”

        But providing welfare to huge corporations is a-okay, right?

      • Love Jah

        It’s a known fact that 68% of welfare recipients are CAUCASIAN…try it again. It seems as if most of YOU live on welfare lol…the irony.

        • Marki Tparty Green

          I wish everyone would not lose track of what this is about. This is about a black community NOT wanting “too many white people” in their area?? Just answer my question here……..is this racist?? Forget about statistics of welfare….forget it about it for a minute. My question again…. Is it racist to openly stand up and fight against “too many” of another race coming into your community?? I can answer that for you and anyone else who is too daft to put two and too together!~!!! IT is very racist, the most racist act I have heard of!!! Way over the top of the Travon Martin drama!!! Way over it.

          • obadiahlynch

            It’s about people not wanting their property values to go up so high they get taxed out of their houses. Same thing as is going on in the Bay Area.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            So the idea to remain in a impoverished state is better than growing and creating jobs? I am curiously wondering to myself, is there any way this is what happened in Detroit?? I am just asking too, I hope no one bites my head off. Discussion clear and mature would be nice.

          • disqus_9jX2ouPmlo

            i appreciate your comments and your questions. they are both fair and valid, and yes, i’m black.

          • GiaA

            Just because Trader Joes would be creating jobs, doesn’t mean they would hire the people within those neighborhoods. If they want to attract a certain demographic of people, they are not going to hire those people to work there. If they do, it will be 1 or 2 and then they will look elsewhere to find other employees and these people know this! I don’t blame them for not wanting it there. I’m sure they will welcome a business that will cater to the people of the neighborhood as well as hire within the neighborhood.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            You don’t know that! If you are not black you are making statements that are not of equal value and if you are black you are stereo typing yourself. This is wrong. There is not difference!! None if a qualified person with the necessary skills applied for a position they would be hired regardless of their color!! Stop saying these things. What is it about Trader Joe’s that would not cater to the neighborhood. It is food and quality food at that.

          • Guest

            Based on your statement, if you are black any statement made would be incorrect. So only white people can take a position and it be deemed valid?

          • Marki Tparty Green

            You are just cutting every single corner you can to go out of your way to understand what I or anyone else say. I said if you are not black you are being racist and if you are black you are stereotyping yourself….. I can’t deal with you anymore because you chose to keep hating. You will not take the words of others to sooth your soul from the lies you have been told your whole life. You keep eating that hate bait baby…. Your men AL and Jesse will just get richer and richer while your people will become more and more dependent on the government. And soon the working class will become so taxed that we can not even afford to work any more and it will be all over. I chose not to talk to you any more because you will not listen to reason. You simply want to hate.

          • Rhonda Canuel

            so you actually think that white people would want to pick up and move to a black community just to work at a store…or drive out of their range to work there. there might be one or two whites that would do it. this is a lost opportunity for blacks and they rejected being able have jobs and get ahead. if this is the mentality of blacks, it’s no wonder that black communities don’t get better….and you have proved that entirely with your comment.

          • Tati

            They’re not impoverished you idiot. They’re trying to avoid gentrification. Which is happening all over the country.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Pardon me……….low-income

          • Edna Evon Hill-Emrick

            I grew up in Detroit so I think I can answer your question. Bringing in a business generates tax dollars, lessening the need for State and Federal subsidies. No business, no tax dollars, but more subsidies. Property tax in Detroit is insanely high because so few are paying property taxes. The more that pay, the less everyone has to pay. If you need $100, and only have 2 people to collect it from, it’s $50 each. If you have 1000 people to collect it from, it’s .10 cents each. Very simple math really. One does have to take into account the criminal element of politicians that line their pockets with some of this money.
            Bottom line, there can be but only 2 reasons they don’t want Trader Joe’s. 1. They’re getting more in subsidies than they’re willing to give up. Or 2. They’re truly racists.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            However like your math proves…..soon subsidies may run out if more people are unwilling to work. That is the thinking I can not for the life of me figure out….how can you keep taxing the working class to death to give more and more to the folks who find it unnecessary to work…

          • Robert Falleur

            Not subsidies…VOTES. That neighborhood has been on the up swing for 15 years. some apparently don’t want it to come up to far.

          • livelol

            I think the automotive industry tanking had more to do with Detroit than having any one group of people coming in to “save” the community.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            What caused the automotive industry to tank??

          • livelol

            economy, mismanagement by upper management, america’s love for foreign cars, union, Tell me Ms. Marki how the automotive industry could have been saved by bringing in a Trader Joe’s or the like?

          • Marki Tparty Green

            It was a question………… Ms. Marki asked a question and you get all weird. But yeah I like that sound of that Ms. Marki keep that way ok ;)

          • obadiahlynch

            I doubt anyone wants to stay impoverished, and I think what happened to Detroit was a combination of people stopped buying American cars plus the advent of automated car assembly — there suddenly wasn’t work anymore.
            .
            The neighborhood in question in Portland is real sensitive to race issues. Too sensitive IMHO but I don’t live there and no one asked me. There was, till the fifties? Sixties? A sort of, black community I guess, that had formed along MLK boulevard (then called Union). They were there because they couldn’t be anywhere else — Portland has a surprisingly long history of segregation. So in I believe it was the sixties, Portland decides it’s time for a big hospital. But there really isn’t room. So Portland condemns the black community business district, essentially, and puts a huge hospital there instead.
            .
            Likewise when Portland built its freeway system, they dug up the same neighborhood to do it in. Demolished what, probably thousands of houses, separated neighbors with a big ditch full of freeway ..

          • obadiahlynch

            Sooo, right or wrong, I can see how the neighborhood association is suspicious of development that comes from outside the area.
            .
            Personally I’d love a TJ’s out by my house.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            By the way that you write that information compels compassion from me to them. I know how it is hard to hold onto what is yours or history at times because of our government. By that little bit if information shared, I actually have found a little ground to where I can stand and see where they are coming from.
            With that said, I also during my involvement reading and posting on this article have noticed a lot of racism coming from the African American communities. I also feel very strongly that they hold ill-feelings toward anyone with white skin. There are many of us who share white skin but no where near the same history. My Fathers family was Irish and came to America after slavery and my Mothers family was Russian and did the same.
            I find it very irritating to be always being stereotyped as a slave owner. And when I say let’s get over it…………I mean let’s get over it. There is no room for hate!! Forgiveness is the only key in no matter what situation we are dealing with. I would like to see the message spread to all. simply forgive

          • obadiahlynch

            No hate here. Just that I can sorta get where their heads are at, and I don’t think it’s about racism. At least not the classic institutional power structure kind of racism.
            .
            Still, I’d like a TJ’s in my neighborhood.

          • Debbie Harris

            It’s a shame that the blacks blame the white for slavery (how long can they play that card…it’s been over 150 years), when in fact it was the blacks that were selling blacks to the white man. So….blacks selling blacks. Hmmmm. They need to get over it. They weren’t slaves, their parents weren’t slaves and chances are their grandparents weren’t slaves. They need an excuse for being oppressed and that’s what they’re using. The majority were not born in Africa and thus should not use the term “African American”. That would be like me using “Sicilian American”. My ancestors came over here in the early 1900′s from Sicily…when did their ancestors come over here? Probably before that. I guess they think it distinguishes them from us. Guess what…news flash….the color of your skin distinguishes them as such. They are Americans. Plain and simple.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            One more thing to remember if you make to much sense or catch them in their little web of bs…..they block you and your posts will not be seen any more lolove got me she couldn’t stand my truth ;)

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            wrong the bay area just thinks its classier than it really is so they think they can charge some wierd ass bullshit for rent.

          • ¿ɟʇʍ

            Taxed out in the Bay Area?
            California has a 1% property tax based on the original purchase price. Once you buy it, taxes never change.

          • obadiahlynch

            I don’t live there; I had assumed the issue was rising taxes along with rising rents and all the other cost-of-living issues you get with gentrification. In Oregon your property taxes are based on your property value.

          • GiaA

            The author said “too many white people”, but if you have read the article and the quotes of the people in the neighborhood, no one said anything about not wanting white people in their neighborhoods. They just don’t want to attract people that would push them out of their neighborhood by a Trader Joe’s being there. This would cause the neighborhood to be more desirable and then they will start pushing out the low income people to bring in people of a higher income. And that doesn’t have to mean white people either because there are higher income black people as well.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            they just don’t want real hardworking tax paying citizens around to make them feel bad about being lazy fucks living off the rest of us.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I just think that everyone is so accustomed to jumping and fighting over everything. If these people live in low-income areas. Let’s make is better!! Let’s all work together to make it better. Nothing ever gets accomplished by fighting. Trader Joes will offer jobs. Welfare wants people to work they help get people jobs. With the possibility that people will not have transportation that would be a great place to offer employment to many people and a relief from the welfare system. They can use food stamps there and hopefully be buying better quality food and nourishing more properly. I can’t see how this is not a win win situation!! If your property value goes up to commercial then if you happen to own cheap property there…….doesn’t that equal income if you were to sell it?? Come on this is all a crock……….any one of us can go to school get an education and move up in this world. But if you don’t think you can then you are right. Then only you have determined your value of yourself Not I or any other person.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            totally agree with you. if that had been me then i would have said that if you want to be the trader joes here in this neighborhood then you need to hire most of your people from this neighborhoods so that we can better ourselves and remove ourselves from this rut of poverty and welfare.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Absolutely!!! It would have been a wonderful thing ;)

          • livelol

            Since when does low income equate to welfare? There are working class people who work for minimum wage, they would be considered low income.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Food stamps and the state health care are some of the things that come from welfare. When you are low income you need these things, But please understand I have never felt this was a welfare issue. It is a related issue. But in the community in question……….how many are on the welfare system in one way or another?? A job a second job part time job would help…Jobs are nice!!

          • livelol

            Lots of those people have more than one job, and then there is the issue of children being raised absent parents…see the cycle? Poverty breeds crime, not the other way around. When there was a high immigrant population, the irish/italian mafia was prevalent. The need to survive outranks any other need. You people should stop acting as if you are somehow morally superior because you aren’t desperate enough to need assistance. There are enough mid to upper level managers who have lost their jobs and doing things they never though they would do. There but for the sake of God goes I. Be thankful and stop being so judgmental of others. None of you seem to be “wealthy” enough to be taking care of multiple families with your taxes.

          • Ishmael Yaeger

            remember black people aren’t racist hahahaha. only white people…. not to say there are not real cases of racism going but i agree with you Marki.

          • Rhonda Canuel

            yes, it is racist and they are getting away with it.

          • TheNomadd

            Marki, yup… if it was a neighborhood that rejected some business because it might “bring in too many black people”, Jackson, Sharpton, and others would be screaming “racism” from the rooftops. (And in this case, rightly so for once.) So yeah, denying Trader Joe’s with the excuse that it’ll bring “white people into the neighborhood” is racist as well.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            These people are ruining our country because everything is never enough!!

          • livelol

            I think death beats this one.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Does the death of the 87 year old veteran matter? He was murdered at the hands of 3 African American boys because they were bored……..Was that a racist murder?? A hate crime?? Or just three little pieces of shits running around taking innocent lives?? Regardless of their skin color they were no better than cur dogs for what they did to that old man. Who by the way FOUGHT for their freedoms !!! Does that mean anything to you??

        • Jonathan

          13% of the pop. make up makes up 38% (BLACKS) REAL numbers. Whites
          received an average of 34.7%. Welfare reform saw white people
          leave the welfare roles at dramatically higher rates than blacks.
          68% is added Hispanic try again FAIL !

          • DiverCity

            The tired canard voiced by Love Jah won’t be refuted by something Love Rah can’t understand, namely statistics.

        • Gary Harper

          .68 x .5 = .34. That is a closer percentage of the total US population, as about 1/2 of it is white. When you use statistics, get them as correct as possible.

        • GiaA

          Thank you Love Jah. They refuse to believe it. And where I live the projects used to be more black people, but now white people are dominating the projects. Its more of them now than black people living there. They refuse to believe that “their kind” are on welfare and government assistance. They also fail to realize that Food Stamps were created for white people back in the early 1900s.

          • Keep an eye out

            Food stamps were created in1939 and the only way 68% of foodstamps are going to white people is if you count everyone who isn’t black… as being white. It’s actually 35% white according to the 2010 government figures I just looked at.

        • Jeff Simon

          Because 73% of the American population is Caucasion, you blithering idiot. Are you unable to see that all things being equal, the Welfare roles for Caucasions should also be around 73%. You are such a simpleton millenial you will be unable to hold a job. Brainwashed Liberal.

        • Susan A Davis

          Food Stamp Assistance

          Food stamp assistance is now formally known as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits. While some people do not consider food stamp assistance to be a form of welfare, statistics regarding the program are still useful to consider when discussing poverty.The United States Department of Agriculture reports:
          •The average household size of food stamp recipient households is 2.3 persons and the average gross monthly income is $640.
          •Children make up 51% of food stamp recipients, and 65% of them reside in single parent households.
          •In total, 79% of food stamp benefits are awarded to households with minor children.

          The racial breakdown of food stamp recipients is as follows:
          •41% white
          •36% African-American
          •18% Hispanic
          •3% Asian
          •2% Native American
          •1% unknown race or ethnicity

          But you have to remember there are 3 times as many whites as there are blacks. So more of the Black population are on food stamps then the white. And there are to many white drawing foodstamps i totally agree with that.

        • 1bonaventure

          Prove it, i can prove you are wrong.. http://statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

      • RickyboyH

        There are more albinos like you living off welfare, but oh well.

      • mikie

        Check the facts!!! Unless you are talking about young white women, you are wrong about who fills the welfare rolls.

      • Lorraine Terpening

        Trader Joes accepts EBT.

      • Jerry

        Right and Trader Joes would have been shoplifted out of business.

      • Mercedes Allen

        To those that claim that illegal immigrants come to this country and sponge off our tax dollars (free healthcare, education, housing, food stamps etc…): Here is the distribution of Medicaid by Race/Ethnicity in The United States.
        White: 42%
        Black: 20%
        Hispanic: 29%
        Other: 9%

        http://kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity-4/

      • livelol

        Same can be said for lots of communities that look like you

      • Linda McDonald

        Thats an ignorant statement Douglas!! How about this one? Older white men are all ignorant!! Bout the same as YOUR comment, see how it feels?

      • Fige Bornu

        Your comment is precisely why people of color do not want to be around you creeps.

      • wildchill

        Does Trader Joes take SNAP cards for their 2 for $5.00 wines?

      • Estella Cohen

        Cheese and a link card could never go that far even for white folks who are the majority of people on welfare anyway.(even with their privileged status why do they need it anyway)

      • whthfk1

        Does Trader Joe’s accept food stamps?

      • JoJo58

        Yes, God forbid that some blacks in the neighborhood might get a JOB! The horror! It’s amazing how it’s still acceptable for racism against whites to be acceptable.

      • j_b_spence

        This is not true!! I know both of the blacks that aren’t on welfare. They are the ones that are truly screwed. I am sorry for them.

      • William Washington

        DOL and FDA records actually show that of VAST majority of welfare (SNAP) recipients nationwide are not Black or Hispanic. It’s WHITE people. It’s a mathematical certainty since WHITES make up a majority of the U.S. population. To think otherwise is to bring prejudices and racism into the discussion.

      • Brian Wilkins

        That is what they do not want to change.

      • Choy Huey

        According to Statistics, Whites collect the most welfare so take your generalization and shove it up your backside. Ignorant fool.

      • Charisa White

        I AGREE………………

      • Will Workforf Ood

        because welfare doesn’t actually provide for you as much as you seem to assume it does. Yes – I can get $110 for food a month but i still have to pay my rent and bills. Nobody in this neighborhood gets a free ride on welfare.

      • PeachPie

        Untrue. More Whites on welfare. Walk inTruth. Not wishes.

      • Alemeyehu Elias

        its on welfare retard, not off welfare, when your off welfare that means you don’t se the government aid…if you’re going to try to make a racist comment, at least make a correct statement…i love ignorant redneck racists like you, it only shows that your fears and comments only come from your lack of intelligence…haha

      • Michelle

        LMAO! I hate to bust your bubble but whites are at a higher rate of receiving social assistance. You should really study more and educate yourself before giving false information on a personal level.

      • quasar704

        Lol “most”? out of the 39 million blacks in the u.s how many are on welfare? how many have criminal records? how many really fit into the b.s that ppl like you love to spew? everyone wants to talk “per capita” but factually….. the majority of “ppl PERIOD” int he u.s are NOT on welfare. smh@”most”

      • quasar704

        You might b too stupid to break down the numbers so I’ll help you….. out of the 39 million blacks in the u.s approximately 5 million are on welfare….. thats nowhere near “most” lol. Now since we’ve cleared up this “most” nonsense we can move on and say “yes black ppl do receive the biggest portion of welfare benefits” out of the meager 4.1 percent of total americans on welfare

      • Poodleguy

        Doug, you have painted with a way too wide brush here & you come off as a racist. When a person does that, it negates any validity of your position. I am a conservative, thru & thru & a registered republican only because it comes a helluva lot closer to my core beliefs than any other, even though it needs a lot of house cleaning. Do yourself & the rest of us a favor & CLEAN UP YOUR ACT!!

      • Rayvyn007

        That’s a lie, only about 6 million blacks on welfare out of 45 million. That is not most, just over ten percent. People like you need to learn to do math before you shoot your mouth off and make a fool of yourself. Most blacks work for a living.

    • kerryberger

      How about the overly-offended whites like you who are offended because policies have largely favored whites and you don’t like that. You are a prime example of “white privilege” and you don’t get it, do you?

      • Vincent W Simard

        so ur old ass idea is to give black privlage….. as if its pay back or fair… HOW does that white guilt you live with taste… like cum ?

        • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

          you must be a progressive with your hand out, taking from the ones that work? shame. Wake up

          • kerryberger

            Yes, I am progressive and so what? I also do more to uphold our Constitution than you understand it. I can’t help it that you are not so bright…. Just saying

          • Marki Tparty Green

            You amaze me do you consider yourself psychic?? If so you’re piss poor at it. How on earth do you know that you uphold our Constitution more than bluebonnet knows it?? You keep grasping at straws trying to make speculations of people you have never met. Deal with facts brother………Just the facts….not your brainless desperate speculations. ;)

          • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

            ah reed yo mind, baby!! Mmmm Hmmm

          • bluebonnet114@yahoo.com

            while I defend your right to say what you choose to say, I must think that you are the one that is none to smart, OR, you are just a trouble maker because someone dares to say the truth to you! I read the Constitution and our Bill of Rights often, do you. And I am a Conservative, but thanks for taking up space here.

          • Tati

            All the red states are welfare states. Please

        • kerryberger

          You, Sir, are a foul-mouthed individual, with the minimal intelligence of a dung beetle. You and your fellow posters are the ones that are afraid of real equality, lack any sort of empathy towards minorities and go about twisting my words around so as to perpetuate your vile racism. Sorry but with your freedom to express your opinion, I have an equal right to label you as I see fit.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I have an uncanny feeling that I am having a conversation with a low information voter……… My Bad. Because usually you know-it-all big mouth no commons sense trolls are way too far off target to ever find your way back. Like they say there is no map gonna bring you back from where you are. Peace out, you are nuttier than a squirrel turd ;)

          • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

            ah lacks me some o dat skwirll, mmmmm, nah!!!

          • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

            ya’ll best be shut yo moufff, for ah done git jiggy wif ya’ll, well….buh.

          • mikie

            You’re the ignorant one k’berger or whoever you are. It’s sick, vile racist puppies like you that perpetuate the low down myths that the rest of the world view as American. It’s not pretty!! Nor productive. You’re a disgusting piece of crap. A dirty, evil supremacist!!

        • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

          yo Vinny–I lacks me sum o dat MAN-CHOWDER, nah!!! Taste like chicken!!!

      • PawneeBill47

        You are out of the loop moron. I understand the proper thing to do for old hippies is to act all offended when the truth does not coincide with what we WANT to believe but suck it up. Black/Latinos do get a disproportionate amount of aid.

        • kerryberger

          Actually you are completely wrong. The greatest number of people on government aid are poor whites living in Red States, not minorities. Your ignorance comes from not wanting to accept the facts. I can’t help it that you are closed minded. That’s YOUR problem, not mine.

          • PawneeBill47

            And the ratio of whites to blacks in overall population is what? That’s the liberal in you, you lie with figures, you lie with facts and you pollute the waters of humanity. Basically around here we would call you out as a delusional, lying scumbag. But hey, it’s only America, you’re a loser anyway, what difference does it make to you if America falls? NONE! I despise lying liberals.

          • Eustace2

            Liberal Avoid Reality strategy number 953,000: when in doubt, blame poor white people.

            You’re scum, and I literally think you should be assassinated for the benefit of society at large. Think on that a moment.

        • Max Most

          So why do Blacks and Latinos have to be lumped together as if White is so above everyone else..??

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I don’t feel that way I don’t really see it that way either. As a white person I always feel that any of my values or beliefs are constantly being treated as if they have no worth. If I try to stand up for what I believe in I am being racist, or acting like I am superior because I am white.And let me tell you……….you don’t know me but I have worked hard for all that I have. I don’t expect anything less from anyone else, regardless of their color. White, black, brown that is all bullshit. Just stop bitching and go to work…. very simple isn’t it??

          • PawneeBill47

            My apologies, your public schools should have done a better job educating you. While you find it handy to scream “Blacks are disproportionately in prison.” You refuse to acknowledge blacks commit more crimes PER CAPITA, FBI stats bear me out. Likewise Latinos. Hey Einstein, I don’t like much of anyone anymore, I’m Osage/Pawnee and by lefty standards am abused and ruled by whitey. The difference is THIS Indian recognizes truth and not some PC, feel good, left wing bullshit. You have done your due diligence of defending minorities today now stfu and go take a nap.

      • Marki Tparty Green

        You sir are the problem….You are the problem. Is this an article about white people picketing a business because they don’t want “too many blacks in their community”?? Yeah that is what I thought do us all a favor and log off you are too stupid to keep tapping the keys. White privilege is not the question here at all on any level…..you’re way off base.

        • kerryberger

          And what academic degrees do you have to back up your snotty remarks, huh? Come on, put up, or shut up.

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I am still laughing even harder now…..with a degree in Human Services lololololol You’re so completely out of touch…..

          • Monica Reuland

            So profound!. Have you been working all day to post that crap? You can rest assure there WON’T be any putting up! Who are you kerrybeger? I am totally with you Marki. You must not be politically active. Never heard your name, so I am thinking you’re not real popular. Just sayin…..

        • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

          ah tired. I tired. Ah jizz lazzee, well. Mmmmm Hmmmmm

      • sheshell801

        Obviously, you don’t get it. Let them work for what they want. The rest of us have. Yet, they are quick to complain no does anything to better the black community. Well, they just kicked them out. They don’t want help, they want it handed to them. I did not enslave them and they need to get off the Liberal Plantation and stop allowing the Democrats to keep them enslaved. They need to tell people like the REVs sharp and Jackson to go stomp rocks because they are only making money off the black communities plight. The Dems put them there and are keeping them there. Don’t believe me…read up on LBJ the true vile progressive that hurt this country. Read about what he said after he signed the Civil Rights Bill. MLK is turning over in his grave at what his legacy has been turned into.

        • Max Most

          Actually the people in that community will be doing the opposite of what you propose, as in they have rejected a particular kind of handout in the idea that they will seek their own solution..

      • Tati

        They’ll never get it. You’re wasting your time even talking to them.

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        Just because a guy that looked like me enslaved a black person 200 years ago does not make me guilty of anything.

    • Ryan Seppala

      ^Awesome^!!I couldn’t have said it better!Stolen!:-}

    • mikie

      I’m tired of white folks who act as if they know not what they do to poor people of color. I’m over white folks games of pretense (that they’re going to help) when their intention is only to hurt the African American community 1 more time!! And, these days, as in times of “chattel” slavery, they would like us to be happy with any crumb, or hog gut they drop off the table and keep quiet about it. I wish everyone would just learn TRUE history. I think then we ALL would have a better understanding of how things are and why we, African Americans, have to continue the struggle for equality in this country. Until the playing field is level, the fight must be ON!! They would bring in their stores and discriminate against community residents seeking employment. For 1 example, I don’t have time to write the many more.

      • GiaA

        I totally agree!!!

        • Henry

          Another idiot.

      • Cindy Cooke

        I don’t know how old you are, Mikie, but several decades ago I was the Air Force Equal Opportunity Officer in Selma, AL. At that time, black people’s lives were endangered for asserting their rights. If you don’t see any improvement today, then you haven’t bothered to learn the history of race relations in the US. You can’t wait for the world to be perfect, you need to do your part to improve things. Don’t tell me that the women who do most of the grocery shopping in both black and white communities wouldn’t be grateful to have a neighborhood grocery store. Stop waiting for things to get better. Stay in school, stay married when you have children, be role models for your children, fight for the best possible education for your children, work hard at whatever you do, and you will end up raising better citizens and giving your children a better life. Don’t bother telling me how many white families don’t follow this model–if white people want to self-destruct, are you going to follow them over a cliff? The rules for success haven’t changed since the beginning of time.

      • Marki Tparty Green

        You’re crazy!! We all struggle this life is tough. Get tough with it or shut up….simple dude. You don’t struggle because if white folk….you struggle because it has been embedded into your brain that you must struggle. Jump up and pull your boots on by the straps get tough and get to where you want to go…because we are all equal….get over it please and start doing your job to help

      • Hames Cpep

        Wonder what would happen if you stopped blaming other people for your shortcomings and instead built a life for yourself? Most white people don’t want to be labeled racist so they do and say things to avoid that label. Them people like you come along and complain anyways. Do something on your own. Stop needing white people to do the right thing in order to make you happy. News flash!!! I don’t care about you or any other black white brown or yellow folk. I care about me and my own. Try it on for a change. I forgot to mention it can involve hard work though. Lol

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        If you spent as much energy focusing on your own life instead of being a perpetual victim, you would stop looking at EVERYTHING as oppressive and trying to keep you and your race down.
        White people are generally bored with the black victim crap. A lot of us have it just as tough.
        Why is it that a black person can come here from Africa, and all they see is opportunity, yet a black born here sees only oppression?

      • Henry

        Bs idiot.

    • Mr. Cough Elixir™

      It’s ok WTF & 100 lost souls that agreed with him… not everyone can be socially literate & fluent ..

    • Keep an eye out

      The east side of Detroit is a depopulated burned down mess and has been for decades since the riot. Black Detroiters there walk into Grosse Pointe and shop at the Trader Joe’s there because their crack house dealing neighborhood is a “food desert” (to quote Michelle Obama).

    • Jack Owen

      Two blacks having a convo watching a white family move in across the street, one says to the other. Uh, Oh here comes the neighborhood.

    • Sherman Rivers

      Pretty sad how so many people think it’s okay to generalize when topics like this come about. It’s on both sides, both black and white, and it’s pretty pathetic. I’m black and I think this was a bad move to reject the store being placed there. A business rather than an empty lot could mean jobs and opportunities and tax revenue (I’m sure there are some schools nearby…). Makes one wonder why if people are so deadset against “others” moving into the neighborhood, why haven’t they made use of the lot?

      On the other side, really sucks to see people with whom you share a particular viewpoint talk about people who look like you… like dogs. “Blacks” and “Whites” kills me. Kind of makes me think they would judge me as “just another black” before they even knew where I stood. A racist is a racist… I see both black ones and white ones in this comment section.

      Once upon a time, there were “whites” abused by other “whites” because of where they came from. Called them Micks, wops, kikes, etc. There were “blacks” abused by other “blacks” even during the era of slavery. BUT NOW all of the sudden, people take sides based simply on the color of their skin, wow. Wake up…please. And, if this does not apply to you, please do not take offense. If it does, by all means, fire away.

      P.S. No, I’m not a big fan of Al Sharpton… but I don’t care much for Rush Limbaugh either.

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        Sherman, my apologies if you think I was including you. My comment said:

        “I am so tired and bored of the perpetually offended black people, and no longer walk on eggshells in fear of offending them because they are offended by EVERYTHING.”

        I did not say all black people, and dont think that all of any one group think and act the same. This article happens to be about a particular group, acting a certain way that has been repeated over and over across the country.
        Personally I am just sick of it. Most white people I know are scared to say anything controversial around black people for fear of offending them.

        If the article had been about liberal whites in San Francisco, you would have seen a very similar response.

        Again, my intent wasn’t to offend you.

    • truthseeker53

      They, as a general rule, are the whiningest race on earth. Most of them have that “Aw, maan” whine tone programmed into their voice. I buy from Trader Joe and I don’t go into blue areas where I have to be on guard every second. This would have been a mistake for Trader Joe and It’s my guess they’re actually glad for the out.

    • Myrtle Linder

      I have no doubt, that these people have been hurt, terribly by the 20% of our, white racist, but this seems to be doing them more harm than good. They need to ignore the white racist and not harm themselves by making racist decisions. We all, need to look to ourselves for errors that may lie there. We can do little to control other peoples evil actions but we are all responsible for our own.In my neighborhood we have a great bunch of Christian blacks, who are thriving and getting along beautiful with the white race. The saying “it takes to tango” is pretty well the truth. Satan and our hate is our worse enemy. Evil for evil will never pay off!!

      • Corpseman57

        For decades, Blacks have been given more advantages than any other group. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO SHUT UP AND QUIT BEGGING?

    • Mo86

      Absolutely right.

      And then they’ll spin it to make it like it was TJ’s decision not to open there because TJ is full of racists.

    • Vibora Volando

      Great comment

    • thatdigiguy

      Poor stupid sheep, willingly being led by their political masters to the slaughter, for no reason other than to line the race hustlers’ pockets and give them another minute in front of the camera.

      I can’t blame Trader Joe’s – - they are a business.. They do *NOT* want controversy. So of course they are gonna back out..

      The sad thing is that the people in the neighborhood are buying the SAME LIE the Democrats sold them during slavery – their home is on the plantation, and they shouldn’t move! So they’re happy to stay in poor slum neighborhoods, afraid to leave, and they’ll believe they have to “protect” their ‘hood against outsiders….

      It’s no different than the 1850′s, when the Democrat slave owners worked hard to convince slaves that they had the best situation possible…

      Race-hustlers are no different than nazi propagandists. Never forget it.

    • paula

      Again it is OK for the blacks yo be racist against whites. Sad thing is it seems that’s OK but let whites do this and all hell breaks loose!

      • jungledog

        Paula, when you say “let whites do this” are you referring to the headline? If you are, I need to point out that the only person who said blacks don’t want Trader Joe’s because it will attract too many white people is the person who wrote the headline. It’s a misrepresentation of what’s happening in the story and it’s purpose is to rile people up and generate a lot of clicks and comments. Read the article. Nobody in Portland says that.

    • ConservativeSenior

      Truly think the stupidest thing I’ve heard is peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist. What planet do these morons come from?

    • rhonan

      Not likely, as the letter, if anyone actually bothers to read it, point out that the Food Desert justification is not valid, as there are already several supermarkets, and other grocery stores in the neighborhood. It is also not an objection to Trader Joe’s coming into the neighborhood, per se. The objection is to a 2.4 million dollar subsidy going to a commercial development that involves 4-10 retail shops and 100 parking spaces on nearly
      2 acres. The objection is to spending that much public money on a project that will be very profitable for the developers, without any conditions that benefit the community, such as including affordable housing in the design, or requiring the tenants to actively recruit job applicants from the neighborhood.

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        First, long term thinking by you would have included tax revenue coming in from those businesses that over a 5-10 year period would offset the subsidy.
        If they don’t take the 2.4mm incentive, then the taxpayers should all get a refund for that amount.
        After all, it’s their money.

        And if you read the article, it was clear that they didn’t want the neighborhood to get too “white”

        Let them figure it out on their own, and not complain if it doesn’t succeed

        Finally, You shouldn’t be required to recruit from a neighborhood. Businesses should be allowed to hire the most qualified candidates. If they all come from that neighborhood… great.

        • rhonan

          I don’t have a problem with government using corporate welfare to stimulate economic growth. As you mention, the long-term growth to the tax base is often reason enough. I do, however, think it is perfectly fine for government to tack-on conditions that further the public interest. As I said earlier, if you actually read the letter, it is not the project itself being objected to, it is the fact that the City is giving a lot of money away to an already successful company, without any conditions the promote the public good.

          No, the only place a worry that the neighborhood will get too “white” is in this piece of Bizpac propaganda. It’s not in neither the letter, nor the Oregonian article. The issue is not that new people might move into the neighborhood. What they are worried about is that this project will encourage “Gentrification” a process where developers come in and buy up affordable housing and commercial property in an area, and replace it with upscale housing and shops, thereby driving the existing community out. Contrary to your probably racist assumption that the neighborhood is question is a slum full of welfare queens, it is a working class neighborhood with a number of the residents owning their own homes. We’ve seen the same thing happen here in Seattle in the Ballard neighborhood, which was historically Scandinavian in character, Businesses who were doing fine, and serving the community would lose their lease, because a developer bought the property. Next thing you know, the bowling alley that has served the community for a couple of generations is being torn down and replaced with boutiques on street level, and 3 stories of condos or upscale apartments for the folks at Amazon. Next thing you know, many of the folks who’ve lived in the neighborhood can’t afford the taxes on their property, and have to leave the neighborhood they’ve called home for decades.

          Also, no one is saying the businesses should have who they hire dictated to them. What active recruiting means it targeting

    • knighttemplar01

      The blacks are still on the democratic plantation, slaves to a failed ideology. Trader Joe’s would have started the communities business engines back up, and given a depressed community jobs and entrepreneurial opportunities, oops my bad that would mean paying taxes and becoming part of the solution as opposed to being a drain and drag on those who are productive.

    • Will Workforf Ood

      actually we have 3 stores within a few city blocks of this location including safeway, fredmeyers, a local co-op, and new season.

    • Chandra Marie Hall

      I live in this neighborhood, and there’s a New Seasons, Fred Meyer’s, and a Safeway already and several smaller ethnic grocers. There’s plenty of grocery stores, but a Trader Joe’s would definitely have improved foot traffic for small businesses in that stretch, and encouraged nearby properties to spruce up.

      • Will Workforf Ood

        more like car traffic.. but yeah we have many stores to choose from.

    • Will Workforf Ood

      We have lots of grocery stores in this neighborhood

    • PeachPie

      I’m offended you are considered evolved.

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        Sorry peach. Sometimes the truth hurts.
        More and more white people are sick of the perpetually offended, think skinned black people always looking to blame someone else. Looking to express faux outrage over a word or sentence.
        Looking to link the slavery of 200 years ago with people of today that had nothing to do with it.

        There is no concerted effort to keep black people down except from the the professional race pimps like the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jackson’s of the world.
        And of course the wonderful Democrat party that was supposed to end poverty back in the mid 1960s by replacing the fathers in the family with a government check.
        Ever look how that is working out?

        I know and admire plenty of successful black people, and the common component of their success is that they have a strong work ethic, strong morals, and don’t look to anyone else to to define their success, or blame for their failures. That comment applies to ALL successful people I know regardless of race or socio-economic status.

    • John Fisher

      True . I grew up in a mixed neighborhood in Philly with lots of racial tension . Years later , I was running a cab in a fairly rural area which also included a ” hood ” in Harrisburg . Once , my dispatcher , who was a black woman , looked at my paper work and asked me why some trips had ” AAN ” next to it . I explained it meant ” Another Angry Niggah ” . She thought it was hilarious . She lived in the hood , and , sometimes when I drove her home , she asked me to wait until she got into her apartment , cleared it , and waved out her front window that she was safe . Thats a hard way to live .

    • Michelle

      They don’t get offended by everything any different then whites accusing all blacks of being aggressive, drug dealing, welfare recipients. We love in an extremely judgemental society. You have no idea who it feels to walk outside of your home and be treating differently by most just because of the colour of your skin and this is 2014! Open your mind and eyes a little more before condemning an entire society of people.

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        I didn’t condemn an entire society. I condemned the the thin skinned among a group that are perpetually offended.
        A large portion of the black population are not in the tank with Jesse Jackson and the other professional race baiters, and are very successful. Those people are not perpetual victims about everything.

        • Michelle

          Who are we to say whom is thin skinned or not. Those that choose to brush things under the rug have that right but in reality there are many that don’t and I don’t blame them one bit. Like I said racism in any form whether small or large is unacceptable and not considered race baiting. Blacks are perpetual victims on a daily basis. Just because there are many in good positions doesn’t answer for an entire race. Look at the bigger picture here!

    • curmudgeon

      Boy do you have them nailed!

    • brian Gaines

      who is THEY LOL SMH

    • Xavier Oglesby

      You are a fool! Nobody cares what you think, so babble on…I’m sick of white people complaining about their civil rights they swear Obama is taking from them… You have been perpetually complaining for 6 years … SHUT UP!!! Your neighborhoods are not doing so well either… what with all the perverts and drug use… Yall are shooting up schools and theatres … You should really get it together over there… And if you don’t like what is happening in America ,go back to Europe or maybe join Snowden in Russia, since yall love Putin so much…

      • ¿ɟʇʍ

        Hmmm….. Nobody cares what I say?
        960 thumbs up on my comment. I beg to differ.
        Now let’s move on the the rest of your comments.
        Yes, Obama, Reid and Pelosi have destroyed this country.
        My neighborhood is fine. I live on acerage, and it’s not uncommon to hear gunshots during the weekend. But unlike your neighborhood, no one gets hurt. We are all heavily armed and just enjoy shooting. Practicing for that day when unwelcome people trespass. I’m good with a 6 inch grouping at 1,000 yards. That’s over a half mile.
        If one wants to buy drugs, all then need to do is go to your neighborhood, find MLK blvd, and you will score.
        As for Putin, since he’s a communist like the traitor in the White House, I figure he’s more your speed. I’m a libertarian. I don’t expect you to know or understand what that means because it’s not an approved word by your leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and other racists like that.
        Have a nice day!

    • your neighbor

      White people are so fuckin stupid. US BLACK PEOPLE ALREADY TOLERATE YOU PERKERWOODS comin into out neighborhood with your stupid ass point less last Thursdays. U fuckers always wanna take what black people have and try to down it when y’all jus tryna figure out how to make it yours. No wonder y’all don’t like us. Y’all are made from us..tried to he raised like us..with our style and everything that come with us BUT U CANT. personally I’d rather u fuckers stay out of our neighborhood. And it is FACT THAT MORE WHITES ARE ON WELFARE THAN BLACKS

    • bleh

      Since you don’t live in Portland and evidently get your news from sites like this, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and not call you out as an ignorant, racist jackass.

    • lestref

      Amen!! You can just imagine the sh*t storm that would ensue if we, white people, were to say “Hey we don’t want a Goodwill store built in our neighborhood. It would attract too many black people, hispanic people, (blah, blah, blah)”? First off, this is Portland, Commie-gon we’re talking about. Just another PC/entitlement blue state. TJ’s not benefiting the black community translates to – they don’t accept food stamps/WIC, so why would we shop there!

    • Poodleguy

      The present ‘black attitude’ was set in motion when Orenthal James Simpson was acquitted of a double murder everyone knows he committed!! Then along came the Kenyan Kid who has totally phuqued up & reversed any forward movement of the black community!!

  • Ray Stone

    If this is not racist,Nothing is. If a white group said a stor could not open it would be in court. So Why is this group not in trouble here. The Black people need to look around. The hood is not getting any better.Why is is. They only want BLACK STORE owners. But the people that have what it takes to make life a little better are non black. So keep them out. Sorry about your hood.You made it this way.You can keep it this way. I for one thinks Trader Joe’s made a bold try.

    • Marki Tparty Green

      Well I have always wondered about the black entertainment channel……if we had one it would be a sin. Not that I would even want one…..the idea of is sounds absurd to me. Just saying…….. shall I kneed down and start kissing some asses now or later?? Will that make be a worthy cracker?? Yeah you can kiss mine!!

      • kerryberger

        Ewww. I wouldn’t want to kiss yours. It probably smells like a rotting tea bag, you little snotfaced brat.

        • Marki Tparty Green

          All I could do was laugh at your brainless response. You poor thing……

          • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

            ah kiss dat ah kiss dat MMMMM Hmmmmm!

          • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

            markee mark be flah as day is!!! you go, nah!! You go, nah!!

      • Mr. Cough Elixir™

        LOL.. BET… is not black-owned dear

        • Marki Tparty Green

          I just found out

      • Max Most

        Well you obviously don’t realize that BET is owned by Jews..

        • Marki Tparty Green

          Sorry I did not realize that…….

      • Brittany Burnam

        Lol wait like every channel on tv isn’t dedicated to the white population or commercials and awards show is only a representation of the white population smh yes we have BET because their is no diversity in the media and minorities are not represented lol why don’t you think about why BET was created..smh ignorance

        • Marki Tparty Green

          You’re crazy if you think it is. You are sitting there on your high-horse still whining about inequality…You are wrong!!

          • Brittany Burnam

            But your complaing about media inequality because BET or El Telemundo when they were created because the lack of diversity on tv, the lack of people of color, is there a lack of white people on tv ummm no sooo think again

          • Marki Tparty Green

            I’m sorry but you totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was not complaining about inequality in media…. I was saying it would be absurd it we white people felt that way. SO quite the opposite. OK and if we did have our own channel, I think there would be lawsuits filed in minutes. Just saying

          • Brittany Burnam

            No I don’t think so because we wouldn’t be surprised we don’t’ see a great much of us on tv so minorities have their own channels because we aren’t represented and these channels display our culture as well so something we can relate too

          • Marki Tparty Green

            Epic Fail on your excuse for you being racist….. EPIC FAIL

          • Brittany Burnam

            Wait how am I racist? Please describe because I don’t see me being racist or displaying it..I am just calling out the institution of Media and the racism involved in the institution of Media..By the way racism has to do with privilege and the power to oppress and the institution of media displays that all of over oh with it’s lack of diversity

          • Marki Tparty Green

            You do not have to be wealthy and privileged to be racist. I have learned from this discussion that the African Americans are very racist. I have always felt it because of what I seen portrayed in media, but I know now first hand because I have shared a two day discussion with several African Americans and yes you all seem to be very racist. With the exception of two black males, and one of them mentioned that that black communities call him “White Washed” because he refuses to believe the lie that there is no equality for African Americans. Drop African from your name please. Unless you came here from Africa yourself……….you are an American. I am not an IRish American or and Russian American……..I am an American of Irish and Russian decent.

          • Brittany Burnam

            Again lol since you didn’t understand the story the black people never said anything about “white” people the author made it up as you can see in the title because they wanted attention and look at all the ignorant people replying with hateful remarks towards African Americans. Also who are you to tell me what to call myself, who are you to even make that choice..oh no body I can call myself African American if I want to it means someone with african decent soo were gonna skip that because you really don’t make sense in anything you said. Also there are all types of privilege ugh geesh that’s why we have the institutions of oppression and privilege classism+privileged wealthy lookism=privileged skinny or acceptable to beauty standards of America (Racism)= those who hold institutional power and privilege (white)people..also what you described with the black race is internalized racism it’s when a group takes on the ideas of their oppressor and inflicts it on their own -_- yeah same with white people not liking gingers or white people that act supposedly “black”. Also what have you seen on the media that black people have one network owned by white people and the rest of the networks shows a vast majority of whites and white women on tv, media, etc commercials, runways ….lol your funny I’m done with this conversation

          • Marki Tparty Green

            As am I

          • Hames Cpep

            Does it ever even occur to simple minded black people that they don’t even account for 15% of the entire population?!?! Lol….it isn’t a 50/50 split genius. It’s a proportionate ….but being that you are black and can’t even produce original thoughts I don’t expect you to understand percentages of even basic math comprehension.

          • Henry

            BS.

          • Henry

            More BS.

          • Henry

            No lack of blacks on TV either. You think again.

          • Henry

            Racist idiot.

        • Henry

          No diversity? You are full of it.

        • Henry

          If you believe that you are truly ignorant.

    • Blanzik, Shamiquwa

      the hood way it at, carckkahs!! hood be way it be AT. Buh. well…..

  • golftilidrop

    Remember when we were all just Americans?

    • Bob Deveny

      No, and I’m 64.

      • lucy088

        Me neither Bob, and I’m 62.

      • Mr. Cough Elixir™

        die already

  • badman400

    Racists cut their noses to spite their faces. This group should be in court just as they would had they been a white group saying the same thing about not attracting blacks.

    • sheshell801

      I have always said those who scream racism the loudest are usually guilty of it.

    • Baloo Uriza

      That’s actually what’s happening: Nothing. Because racism is very much the cultural norm there. Nobody cares. Welcome to Oregon.

  • Da Shadow Know

    Maybe they could open and put a sign in the window that says “WHITE TRADE ONLY”

  • wganz

    OK, how about a trade? Keep the black teenagers in the hood and bring Trader Joe’s to my neighborhood. Sound racist from a YT? Well, that is exactly what the Portland African American Leadership Forum said!!! DEAL WITH IT!

  • Steve

    Let ‘em eat cake.

  • Lynna

    What about the black people in the black neighborhood who would have benefited from jobs and serving the black customers in the black neighborhood?

    Seem’s like some people cut off their own nose to spite their face.

    STUPID move by the community group leaders.

    IF property values were raised by the increase in revenue, foot traffic their own property value would have increased meaning worth more to them if and when they decide they want to sell it.

    So if their only goal is to keep the neighborhood poor, and undervalued for the decreased property tax they have succeeded – even though their schools and children WOULD have benefited in more tax revenue generated for their local schools.

    • Carole

      Best comment of the day

  • ebooksdog

    bold move by trader joes cause they would have been robbed and stoled blind anyways

    • livelol

      “Stoled?”

  • Ladybug91

    Here Trader Joe’s was willing to build a store offering jobs to people in need of one so I say, these black people deserve what is coming to them; more poverty, less opportunities and a blighted neighborhood. Shows poor judgment on the black community there in Portland.

    • sheshell801

      Shades of Detroit if you ask me.

    • mikie

      No, not poor judgment at all. They’ve been getting their groceries for years now I take it.